ve no good answers for this, just passing on my $.02...
Edgar
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he html so why add complexity to the current tags.
Edgar
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&g
If the use of modules is truly to split struts-config.xml files, then isn't
it simpler to just use comma delimited configuration files in web.xml?
Edgar
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e tags
for this situation seems...like it should be thought about further.
Edgar
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Subject: RE: why are form beans required for html:form?
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:1
,
i.e. wizards, reports, lookup-save-saveas-delete, etc. Then business object
can implement these simple interfaces, dropped into an actionform and off
you go.
Edgar
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of them on a specific form have to be reset
and if they are conditional in the view it poses a problem although they
pose a problem on a multipage form in any case.
Edgar
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> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6
umented way too
> many times to count.
> Craig McClanahan
> >- Also, again totally agreeing with Ted, make everything interface
> >based,
> a few more hears here ;^)
> Joe Germuska
The interface discussion has come up previously
tests.
For small apps, struts data source is really useful. If you do completely
drop struts data source, please throw in a plug for Poolman on sourceforge
on the faq explaining why you dropped it
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/poolman/).
Thanks
Edgar
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like.
Thanks
Edgar
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From: Vic Cekvenich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 4:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Should Struts ship with all of the commons jar files needed
to get Struts datasources working?
Hello Rick,
They are depre
;t validate xml
configuration files other than for open/close tags.
Edgar
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> From: Raudenbush, Pamela [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:16 PM
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> Subject: Extending ActionMapping
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>
>
Why wouldn't changing the servlet mapping from *.do --> action servlet to
*.[actiontype] --> [associated action servlet] work? As long as you are
consistent would struts care?
Edgar
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> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, No
I agree, the less jars the better.
As far as containers shipping with commonly used jar files, these common
applications aren't standing still and we test with the specific jars are
applications are using, wouldn't this be confusing and possibly waste more
time that it sav
nning older versions of the servlet container.
Edgar
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> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
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Not that I am an expert, nor is this the Command Chain a major issue for me,
but logic in configuration files (xml) is like writing LISP. For some it is
a rare beauty, for others it foggy at best.
Edgar
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> From: Paul Speed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sen
om the business tier.
Edgar
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> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 8:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: Editable Fields V/S Static Text
>
> >3) Lastly, there are certain cla
'true' or 'false' with javascript
syncronizing the values to guarantee a result returned.
Edgar
> -Original Message-
> From: Sgarlata Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 7:28 AM
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> Subject: Re: [VOTE]
+1
If 'renderExtraAttributes' always renders the last attributes of the tag
this looks clean to me. This would allow rendering multiple or
other tags with the single tag.
Edgar
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> From: Sgarlata Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday,
ould have to ability to easily pass
this information from the business tier to the view. Again, the hope of a
submission relating to this type of extension being accepted seems iffy,
especially since generalizing a specific implementation is a bit of effort.
Edgar
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Tiles and validator contain functionality not readily available in JSF.
Edgar
> -Original Message-
> From: Guido García Bernardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:41 AM
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> Subject: Struts vs JSP : Validators
>
would I expect anyone else interested in the tags to make any time
commitment with the current 'RULES' placed on the tags, i.e. ONLY emit HTML
4.01 or XHMTL 1.0, only a 'thin' layer over standard html tags, etc.
Edgar
> -Original Message-
> From: Craig R. McC
If the tags were structured differently so they were easier to extend
without breaking when new releases of struts come out these issues might not
come up. Of course, I myself have resigned myself to this issue since the
tags are such a political football on this list.
Edgar
> -Origi
You could use a JSP expression to output the readonly='true' attribute of
the html:text or use the html-el library and use jstl to evaluate the
attribute.
Edgar
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> From: Chris Gastin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12
I test my apps under tomcat and use the shutdown / restart with session
restoration to test if my apps are serializable.
Edgar
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> From: Bygrave, Graham BGI UK
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other frameworks out
there which don't force the MVC abstraction through single use beans which
might be a better starting point.
Edgar
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> T
have the
text the user entered). It is easy enough to emulate the validator flow of
control (just read the mapping and get the 'input' value and forward to it).
Edgar
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What about ethernet and pots?
> < using something else>>
>
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Thanks for the update. I'll see if I can work them a little for you.
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I would like to see those responses.
Edgar
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> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:08 PM
>
> (Hey, maybe I should start answering the html taglib
> questions with the
> Ve
I haven't seen a patch for the tags (except for James, David and Aaron) in
quite a while because the response to maintaining/enhancing the tags is so
negative. Most of us who really use/customize the tags have gone our own
way already.
Edgar
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the MVC concept would be perfected (or as close as
possible).
Edgar
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7; method, whose purpose would be
for extending the tag. There would be a little processing overhead in
running the standard tags through the empty routines, but those of us who
would rather write tags than either scriptlets, velocity or JSTL could do so
with some flexibility.
Thanks
Edgar
-
Exactly some of the problems I have been having with the tags as they
currently exist.
Edgar
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From: Paananen, Tero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 5:42 PM
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The users of struts can understand 1.2.1 w/o 1.2.0, most of use are also
using tomcat as well and most of us skip releases. If it takes extra
time for no other benefit than to keep things neet, it is probably not
worth the effort.
Edgar
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> From: Steve Raeburn [
Yes. All my projects use struts db connection and there was talk about
removing it (which I presumed to be from the distribution).
I assume it will not change, so building it every day is irrelevant.
Thanks
Edgar
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Does it cost anything to leave in the struts-legacy? If not could you
leave it until the 2.0 release?
Thanks
Edgar
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Edgar Dollin would like to recall the message, "[ANNOUNCEMENT] Struts 1.1
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son I prefer using the struts connection is to make
as few changes to web.xml as possible.
Thanks
Edgar
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in the jdk which are not serializable, each of
which is listed in the javadoc.
Hope that helps
Edgar
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I am looking into the various methods of processing xml files and was
wondering why digester was used as opposed to jaxb.
Thanks in advance.
Edgar
ce so that by itself it makes a difference. Not everyone
wants to roll there own.
Edgar
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> From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:00 AM
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, at least
until JSF is ready for prime time.
Edgar
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>
> I just did a quick bug search
Unfortunately, you can't use as the value of an
attribute. Are you suggesting that the user does
That seems a little disconcerting.
Edgar
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> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday,
uts. Also,
non-reseting checkboxes is a deterent to reuse of forms with checkboxes,
as you are forcing the assumption of every checkbox being on the jsp
page.
Edgar
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> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:30 AM
>
If you do a lot of nesting, the nested tag lib is a lot easier to use
than EL. Don't enhance it or even fix bugs, but leave it alone please.
Thanks.
Edgar
> -Original Message-
> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:07 A
Resin and want to deploy on some
other container, beware that it lets you do lots of non standard stuff.
Edgar
I like the idea.
While your at it, can each message pass in its own resource bundle so
you can keep the resources with the Class/Package?
Edgar
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:15 PM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: Re
straightforward to use than the equivalent jstl tags.
If the jstl tags could be used easily as the iterating library for the
html tags, it would be a nice benefit for those who use form nesting.
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John Brenner.
Stand on Zanzibar.
Edgar
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I switch between booleans and strings for actions and imbed actions into
a 'generic' class. Struts currently, doesn't have a problem with this
(at least in the current versions).
Is there a chance this will stop working?
Edgar
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I am not using Introspector. I either use low level introspection (in
which you can specifically set your object parameter types) or I let
struts do the introspection. Perhaps your issue is just with
Introspector?
Edgar
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concern that something will break going
forward. I looked for overloading in the spec (attached) and they don't
specifically speak to the issue.
http://java.sun.com/products/javabeans/docs/beans.101.pdf
Could you point me toward some documentation which gives more details?
Thanks
If you change the value on the form, the target JSP will be created with
the value set assuming the form field is on the JSP.
Edgar
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Can this be a property of the form itself?
Edgar
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any comments on the problem i've out
The version to try for windoze is lugaru / epsilon. If you learn the
keystrokes you will never give it up.
Edgar
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Subject: [OT]AW: Why are
tools available, with action chaining being one of
the tools, to implement your analysis. If your analysis works best with
action chaining, you are a winner, if it works without it, great too.
Edgar :-)
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From: Nelson, Laird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thu
Congratulations...
You have gotten big enough to draw negative attention. It is a sign of
true success.
Edgar
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Subject: Why struts is looked down upon...
Any
applies it and
will post comments back to bugzilla.
David
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>Date
Is there a feedback loop on code submissions?
Edgar
1) Are the technogolies incompatible (or at least the off the
shelf version)?
2) How much control to you get of the client or are you force to
manipulate it through a filtering layer?
3) How good are the controls it generates?
Thanks in advance.
Edgar
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This looks a lot like a religious discussion and didn't your mother tell
you about such having such dicsussions in public ;-\.
Edgar
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I agree but overall very original ;-}...
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> +1 from me. I'm not an artist by any stretch of the imagination, so I
> won't be en
OOPS
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From: edgar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:03 AM
To: 'David Graham'
Subject: RE: Constants for EL / JSTL
The idea wasn't intended to be struts specific, just a way to preload
constant classes for a struts ba
class as a bean into the
application context under the either
1) the fully qualified class name
2) Global[BaseClassName]
If there is any interest I will implement. I currently am getting
around this issue with a JSP include.
Let me know.
Edgar
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Please
(acknowlegement is acknowledgement).
Thanks in advance.
Edgar
* 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
*notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
-- Obvious - leave it in the source code
* 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the
only one I can imagine
is where you are triing to overlay a single struts application over
multiple physical servers. If so isn't this better left to other
external methods of combining servers.
Anyway that is my $.02.
Edgar
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From: David Graham [mailto:[
+1
I have developed my own primitive BatchAction and find it very useful
for running non-interactive servlets.
Edgar
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From: Karl Baum [mailto:kbaum@;Tallan.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:19 PM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: ChainAction class
Over the
Isn't a better way of handling this to keep awareness of the action in
progress (in reset and validate you can just look at the request), and
make a decision as to what reset action to take rather than creating new
classes.
Hope that helps.
Edgar
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From: Jason
One method I use is to use the struts errors for confirmation of
database updates or have pages which do so, so the user is in tune with
the database activity.
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From: Jon Ferguson [mailto:ferguson@;ieee.org]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:46 AM
To: Struts Developers L
DynaActions to avoid javascript and then in the action set the
button in the form. I like javascript to actually set the buttons in
the form because then you can do other user related event driven
actions.
Edgar
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From: Bachan S [mailto:bachan_anand@;yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday
ou know that not to be the case in struts 1.1 with jstl
1.0.2 then I am a happy camper. I don't have the time right now to test
it (I would have to update to 1.1b, etc).
Thanks again for your help.
Edgar
> This is why showing the exact code sample is important.
> Part of your proble
assume I botched them. In this trace I have modified
NestedWriteTag (the only change was to make it a subclass of my
WriteTag, which I have heavily modified) but that has not been executed.
Thanks for your help.
Regards
Edgar
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> From: David M. Karr [mailto:
I posted this on struts-user and there were no takers. I didn't see any
bugs like this posted and was wondering if this was truly a bug worth
posting since I am not running 1.1b with JSTL.
The only workaround I could find was to re-write the c:set as a very simple
tag.
Thanks
What I think he wants to do is write a program which introspecs his
database metadata and on the fly write dynaforms.
Edgar
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Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 4:24 PM
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Subject: RE
Who said building architecture has deep parallels to computer science anyway
;-)?
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@;apache.org]
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:52 AM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: [FRIDAY] Re: Struts taglib
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, V. Ce
g.
I don't know how much you are using the RequestDispatcher so there might
be other issues. But it is something to try.
Edgar
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Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:10 AM
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clean deliniation between struts and user code.
Edgar
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@;apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:14 PM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: Re: HTML formatting of newline characters with bean:write tag
On Thu, 24 Oct
Isn't a requirement that beans be serializable anyway?
Edgar
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From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx@;telocity.com]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: RE: WHY! Won't Form Classes Load
I absolutely hate making exce
built to handle the input html object.
Thanks for your commentary.
Edgar
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From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: LabelTag
I think your suggestion on having one struts tag that emits any in
> I think XDoclet is cool, but the issue here is not extra tags -- it's
> extra attributes. One of our primary design principles is that Struts
> tags would only contain attributes that correspond to valid attribute
> names (for that particular element) in HTML/4.01 -- whether the browser
> ignor
My apologies for not understanding this particular issue. There are some
liberties that by necessity need to be taken with the tag library
definitions, i.e. styleClass for class. I don't understand why someone
would care if there are 'excess' tags in the tag library. I would never
consider look
The number of missing attributes in the tag libraries is large enough to
consider
a change, especially since writing tag libraries is one of the most
pleasurable
parts of what we do ;-).
Edgar.
> I do highly encourage the Struts committers to use XDoclet for TLD and
> documentation gene
like
tagextendingtag
org.apache.struts.taglib.TagExtendingTag
JSP
property
false
true
mydefault
[tldfilename]originaltagname
I disagree.
The most useful method of timing releases for both developers and users
Is when the features reach critical mass. That way it is worth the
effort for the developers to release and the users to upgrade.
Edgar
> The real underlying problem, which we should address in post 1.1,
getter / setter methods.
They are compatible with the nested library, opera, i.e. 5 and higher.
I haven't tried them on netscape. Obviously, I have found them very
handy.
Edgar
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Others have responded to you with some comments. But I find that I don't
know what problem you have. What functionality is it that you need that
requires new tags or complex Java
complex will life be when moving from version to version
of Struts if I continue to 'roll my own'?
Thanks
Edgar Dollin
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that this is the window to ERP and that the issues we are
all facing are so open ended and we are all pulling this project in
different ways as well as so many other competing projects. Because of this
there might be a need for 'sub' projects with committers who only review
that code
first time through the action we
go to an actionform defined lookup section (getDefaultInfomation) and
then forward to a 'lookup' jsp which could be you regular entry form if
so desired or a record selection.
This seems to be a natural way to handle the issue.
Edgar Dollin
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