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On Monday, Jul 21, 2003, at 12:10 US/Pacific, Ranko Bijelonic wrote:
I'm not sure exactely how it would take more work (provided there
were Struts like utils writen one time).
I kind of read this as, ``Writing web actions without struts isn't
any more
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Andrew Hill wrote:
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 11:26:53 +0800
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hi ranko,
i guess i have not able to portray it properly.
What i intend to say is if you have ranko framework, use that. why do you
need struts then as Ranko framework will be almost equivalent to struts. And
if you make Ranko open source, people may start taking benefit from the good
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Andrew Hill wrote:
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all this great filters in place of ActionServlet direction
/snip
I could be wrong about that, thats just the impression I get from the posts
and discussions here and on the dev list. It seems a logical conclusion
though.
Herein lies one of
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RB Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:03:31 -0400
RB It is my understanding that the servlet spec, jsp spec, and jsf spec
are
RB regarded
RB as the framework of frameworks
-Original Message-
From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Andrew Hill wrote:
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all this great
Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
For better or for worse, Struts 1.x is going to remain based on Servlet
2.2 and JSP 1.1 as the base technologies,
For the record, I just got back from a training gig with one of the
largest companies on the planet. They are currently standardized on
Servlet 2.2 and
hi,
No doubt, they are vaguely the same.
After all STRUTS is based on container. BUT struts make your life EASY.
How? By providing scalable and reusable code - base principle of frameworks.
1. Frameworks are the semi-complete applications. They are standardized
answer to the very common set of
there's a lot of stuff it gives you out of the box.
1. solid code
2. validation framework
3. tile framework
4. auto-population framework
5. role based actions
6. xml configuration of all the links or actions of
your application
7. best practices framework bundling (scaffolding)
complete with
: Struts MVC framework similar to that
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: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
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hi,
No doubt, they are vaguely the same.
After all STRUTS is based on container. BUT struts make your life EASY.
How? By providing scalable and reusable code - base principle of frameworks.
1. Frameworks are the semi-complete
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|Sandeep,
|You mentioned role based actions in your list... which has caught my eye.
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Either way, thanks for trying :).
ranko
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From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hi ranko,
Assume you don't use struts. You
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I guess the main difference between what you mention
and struts is that you can use this stuff right away
for the app you want to build without
for the help,
ranko
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From: Sandeep Takhar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:21 AM
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I guess the main difference between what you mention
and struts
to be addressed. Thanks.
ranko
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From: Adam Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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for my $0.02.
Using just pure servlet and base JSP, dealing
.
ranko
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for my $0.02.
Using just pure servlet and base JSP, dealing with forms
-Original Message-
From: Sandeep Takhar
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:21 AM
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Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of
a servlet
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I guess the main difference between what you mention
and struts is that you can
to be added there).
ranko
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for my $0.02.
Using just pure servlet and base JSP
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hi ranko,
Assume you don't use struts. You start writing your
first app for your
requirements. Being an expert programmer, you
, July 21, 2003 12:49 PM
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for my $0.02.
Using just pure servlet and base JSP, dealing with forms is not
intuitive
or clean. You either rely on too much code in a JSP, or too much
still have Struts and the servlet container itself :).
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If you've built it already
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:38:22 -0400
Yes Struts does definitely solve many problems and make it easier.
But
is
seems that it solves a lot of problems
have Struts and the servlet container itself
:).
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If you've built
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From: Ranko Bijelonic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:32 AM
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ok. assume i go through the process below. now i have RANKo
ranko
ranko
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for my $0.02.
Using just pure servlet
On Monday, Jul 21, 2003, at 12:10 US/Pacific, Ranko Bijelonic wrote:
You could certainly code each Action as a Servlet but it would take
more
work.
I'm not sure exactely how it would take more work (provided there were
Struts like utils writen one time).
I kind of read this as, ``Writing web
It is my understanding that the servlet spec, jsp spec, and jsf spec are
regarded
as the framework of frameworks (a kind of interpretation of mine) Struts
action mapping is designed in Struts way. If the struts-config.xml is
merged
into the web.xml, a lot of other frameworks would not happy :-)
things in the same way the container does. But, it wraps it in a more
friendly control system.
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are distributed objects
comming? :). just kidding :)
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From: Adam Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:12 PM
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I think the one thing that hasn't been mentioned
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Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet container?
It is my understanding
:)
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RB container?
RB I think the one thing that hasn't been mentioned. And this is my
: Monday, July 21, 2003 7:14 PM
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? :). just kidding :)
RB -Original Message-
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RB Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
RB container?
RB I think the one thing that hasn't been mentioned
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet container?
I am getting more clear about your
,
or request/response wrappers with Struts? I'm just wondering.
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:46 PM
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- Original
container?
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I am getting more clear
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:38:22 -0400
Yes Struts does definitely solve many problems and make it easier.
But
is
seems
Subject: RE: Struts MVC framework similar to that of a servlet
container?
Its not so much paving of one's own roads, but recongnizing that the roads
have been paved already :). I'm not suggesting redoing what Struts does,
what I'm saying is that Sturts is redoing what the servlet continer alredy
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:38:22 -0400
Yes Struts does definitely solve many problems and make it easier
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You are right, Struts did provide a lot of features that have been since
widely adopted. I did not mean to be dismissive of Struts here, i was more
).
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From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:46 AM
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IIRC the struts datasource support has been deprecated now for that very
reason (supplied
list. It seems a logical conclusion
though.
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From: Ranko Bijelonic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2003 12:52
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ok, where do I get the info on all
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