RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread John Romero
> end of the Golden Age of Gaming (by GOTCHA's definition), you > have to love that gameCarmack sure knows how to make them ;-)) ^^^ DO I NEED TO KILL YOU FOR THAT REMARK??!!! ;P~~ - John

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread John Romero
> That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I > mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be > curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I > don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Pedro Quaresma
I havn't got any spectacular tales to write about, but these are my best finds: Three copies of [MS(T)] Worlds of Ultima 2 Martian Dreams for $8 each. Ultima 8 by Softworld (the Chinese editor of Origin games) for $5 A huge bundle of Apple 2 games that included Ultima CPC (with manual) and othe

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Pedro Quaresma
I don't think you have been raped, I believe there was a "floppy only" Akalabeth that was sold (more or less recently) on eBay for $1000. To avoid severe budget strains, I have commited myself not to spend more than $50 USDs per game. Of course I'd break this rule on extreme exceptions (Akalabeth

Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Alexander Zoller
> That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of > the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you > paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of > games...just one game. Myth for Atari ST: $120 shipped. Also, an Ultima III for A

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Chisarick
Apple EA: I keep the stuff sorted by publisher, so I could certainly write up a list. I should clarify that its "to the best of my knowledge" (37 titles is what it looks like). I never had an "official" catalog of all published titles, but I'm 99% certain I have the kitchen sink. I've tr

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Chisarick
Grrr... I stumbled on a complete VG/NM (somewhere in there) copy of "Caverns" for the Atari this year, but the Apple version keeps slipping away from me. As before, I'm trying to make disk images off the originals so I can play them in 20 years (or next weekend. Whatever.) The disks have

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Pedro Quaresma
LOL! :D Jim, could you please check if Carmack is a member of this list? ;) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Admnistration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Hugh Falk
:-) JUST A JOKE, OF COURSE! :-) Hey John, if you wouldn't mind, can you share the highlights of your resume with the group? Not so much the games (which a lot of us know), but the roles you played on the teams. I didn't know about your time at Origin, for example. If this is already well docume

Re: [SWCollect] Time for my introduction

2002-11-11 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Stefan Lindblom stated: > >And yes, I have that Trail Map, still in shrink though so I dont know what >it looks like.. have to get another one perhaps.. someday. IIRC, it doesn't have much detail. It's about like the maps in the books, except a little less obviously made of hex-shaped pieces (aga

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Hugh Falk
Sounds reasonable to me...it would go for a lot more today. Is this for one of the Computerland versions? If so, it would definitely go for more. The big wildcard is that Richard Garriott seems to be making "new" ones with his original materials. I think we already debated the value of those in

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Hugh Falk stated: > >AH was one >of the most prolific publishers of the early 80's, but I guess their >products overlapped and were just overshadowed by SSI. I didn't buy many computer games in the early '80s. Now that I think about it, I don't think my family had a computer until about 1983. And

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Dan Chisarick stated: > > I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title >(complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) >Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of >Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Se

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Dan Chisarick stated: > > Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are >the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those >things, anyway? :) I guess its called the "external keyboard". Sigh. > Back on topic: Add "Rescue Raiders" to the list of gems

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Dan Chisarick stated: > > Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are >the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those >things, anyway? :) I guess its called the "external keyboard". Sigh. Drat, forgot my reply to this part in my last post. There are

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 12:24 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: [Snip] I also collect AH games. My list is here: http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/avalonhill.htm (no history section for AH yet...need to get to that). For some reason AH games are not very desirable on ebay (with only a few excep

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread John Romero
> That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has > rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading "DEMO COPY > / line / NOT FOR RESALE" on it. There's one on the front, > one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another > on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) An

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:36 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the re

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread hughfalk
In high school and college, I worked in video-game retail throughout the mid-to-late 80s (at an Atari/Commodore/Apple store and later at EB). We would get demo copies just like you describe for store display. However, they probably could have been used for any of the purposes you mention. Hugh

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 10:32 PM, Dan Chisarick wrote: [Snip] Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the "external keyboard". Sigh. Sony has a game pad

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread hughfalk
The ones we got were consistantly full copies...never modified, except for the sticker to prevent the reseller from making money on it. Hugh On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:25:18 -0600 (CST) "Lee K. Seitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Chisarick stated: > > > > Mega off-topic: There are emulators

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:20 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: [Snip] Now here's a question. If you own the 20-year-old original, is buying 20-year-old copies (likely pirated 20 years ago) still pirating? :-) Yes. ;-) Assuming that the copyright holder hasn't given permission for people to

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Chris Newman
But isn't the 50-year marker the rule of Public Domain? What did Disney do to tighten the restriction? Surely the rule pre-dates the 30s, when Disney was on its way to becoming a stable company? Edward Franks wrote: > > On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:20 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: > [Snip] > > No

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:38 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: [Snip] That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 12:04 AM, John Romero wrote: Hmm. Now I have an urge to go find Dungeon Campaign and Wilderness Campaign... Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) Why do I have the feeling that the list of

Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] Favorite finds: items previously believed to NOT exist. Ultima III by US Gold, for example, or the slipcased Ultima Trilogy. Was this a US version? -- Edward Franks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --

Re: [SWCollect] Time for my introduction

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 10:43 AM, Lee K. Seitz wrote: [Snip] Yeah, well ask my how many copies of Space Invaders or Missile Command I have for the Atari 2600 and plan to keep. (They're label variations.) Ah. the 2600. :-D I keep one around to occasionally play Adventure. I bough

[SWCollect] Greetings from The Origin Museum

2002-11-11 Thread Origin Museum
I was told about this board some time ago, but I finally got the time to join--YAY! I know most of the people here, but for those who don't remember me, I'm Joe Garrity, and I (along with my wife, Paula) run a website called The Origin Museum. We specialise in old computer games and artifacts

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 01:33 PM, Chris Newman wrote: But isn't the 50-year marker the rule of Public Domain? What did Disney do to tighten the restriction? Surely the rule pre-dates the 30s, when Disney was on its way to becoming a stable company? See

Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Alexander Zoller
> Was this a US version? No, it was a European release by Microprose. They used to distribute Origin's games in sturdy, small-sized, two-piece cardboard boxes (same measurements as the Rainbird blue boxes -- a bunch of Level 9 and Magnetic Scrolls titles came in these). For some inscrutable

[SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Origin Museum
Sorry to start a new thread here, but I've got some catching up to do! :) Here are some of my favorite finds: 1. Lord British Starter Kit--Akalabeth and Ultima 1 sold together by California Pacific--still in the original baggie (also the most I ever paid for a title--$1,200.00 in a bundle w/ab

Re: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:24 PM, Origin Museum wrote: [Snip] 1. Lord British Starter Kit--Akalabeth and Ultima 1 sold together by California Pacific--still in the original baggie (also the most I ever paid for a title--$1,200.00 in a bundle w/about 20 other worthless titles--does t

Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Edward Franks
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:27 PM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] o, it was a European release by Microprose. They used to distribute Origin's games in sturdy, small-sized, two-piece cardboard boxes (same measurements as the Rainbird blue boxes -- a bunch of Level 9 and Magnetic Scrolls

RE: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Hugh Falk
Welcome aboard, Joe! Haven't heard from you in a while. By the way, I couldn't link to your story below. Hugh -Original Message- From: Origin Museum [mailto:originmuseum@;crius.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] What's your favorite

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Hugh Falk
It sounds like we could get a lot of autographs between the two of us. I could just about throw an EA Flat at Mike Abbott's office (Hard Hat Mack) from where I sit. If anybody wants an autograph, let me know, I don't think he'd mind. John, I'd actually like a Ray Tobey autographed Skyfox if its

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Hugh Falk
I've met a lot of collectors in the game development ranks. Which makes sense since a lot of developers get into games because they're passionate about them. Though I've found very few as serious about it as us. Also, I generally run into console (2600, Colecovision) collectors. Steve Meretzky

[SWCollect] Found Empire, but still need it (and Fire-Brigade note)

2002-11-11 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Argh! Went to a thrift store and found a copy of Empire. Got someone to show it to me (it was in a display case) and it was for the Amiga. I bought anyway, even though I shouldn't be spending money on such things. This is my second copy of Empire. The other is for the C-64. I was introduced t

Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread C.E. Forman
> Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded > with Synergistic Software. :) Got "Warlock's Revenge"? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing li

RE: RE: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Origin Museum
Hmmm...don't know why you couldn't get to it...you can still get there from my website: http:originmuseum.solsector.net ..it's in the 'STORIES' section > "Hugh Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RE: [SWCollect] >What's your favorite find?Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:44:48 -0800 >Reply-To

[SWCollect] Floppy Disk Numbers

2002-11-11 Thread C.E. Forman
Hey gang, Anyone know what the number is that's on the back of all 5-1/4" disks (bottom right corner)? One of the Eyal Katz buyers thought maybe it could be used to determine the age of a disk or where it came from. -- This me

RE: [SWCollect] Floppy Disk Numbers

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Chisarick
I've seent them before, but they're not on all disks (just looked at my "Tangled Tales". Nada.). My guess is they're manufacturer-specific and that there are no rules for interpreting them. My $0.02. -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:ceforman@;earthlink.net] Sent: Mo

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Chisarick
No level skip keys, but you could load the hidden game (go to the tactical view and hit CTRL+G. It has a mini-version of "Space Invaders"). Nice touch :) Only other way I can think of is to compare disk images. -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:lkseitz@;mail.hiwaay.

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Chisarick
BTW I have all 89 issues of Computist + the four errata issues. The Super IOB images are on Asimov. Mail me if you're interested in any sort of info, etc. I'm not great, but I've normalized a good stack that weren't in any of those issues. John, if you don't mind yet another ques

RE: [SWCollect] Found Empire, but still need it (and Fire-Brigade note)

2002-11-11 Thread Hugh Falk
So you're looking for the original Empire for the PC? I never played the PC version (just ST and Amiga). I can't imagine playing that game without a mouse, and I don't think they would have included mouse support for an IBM game in 1987, did they? You might also want to pick up Empire II: The A

RE: [SWCollect] Floppy Disk Numbers

2002-11-11 Thread John Romero
Okay guys, If you want a signed copy of Wasteland, send it to: Coresoft Inc. attn: Alan Pavlish 23232 Peralta Dr. Suite 112 Laguna Hills, CA 92653 Tell 'em I sent ya! Oh, and MAKE SURE you include a stamped & addressed box to send it back in so he has pretty much *no work* to do to get it back

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread John Romero
Back then, most games filled up all available memory and rarely ever did they have to load from disk, so most games back then were NOT keeping protection in mind. It was a very easy thing to tack on, though, because what would usually happen is the guy in charge of protection would get the game fi

RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread John Romero
Oh, another thing: y'all probably didn't know that I wrote InfoDOS, Infocom's DOS for Zork Zero and a few of their other games ;) - John > -Original Message- > From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6@;bellatlantic.net] > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [SWCollect] Found Empire, but still need it (and Fire-Brigade note)

2002-11-11 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Hugh Falk stated: > >So you're looking for the original Empire for the PC? I never played the PC >version (just ST and Amiga). I can't imagine playing that game without a >mouse, and I don't think they would have included mouse support for an IBM >game in 1987, did they? I don't recall, although

Re: [SWCollect] MobyScale question

2002-11-11 Thread Jim Leonard
"Lee K. Seitz" wrote: > > Also, is there not an official page for the MobyScale at > MobyGames.com? I can't find one and Google returns the ones at YOIS > and GOTCHA. Yep: http://www.mobygames.com/info/MobyScale Is this link not in the version you have? If not, it may not be the most current.