Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

any tags you want and i firmly believe in that. You can question if this freedom applies to non-verifiable tags but i am not niggling here. Automated edits adding/modifying wikidata tags are a different subject of course but that is not the topic here. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

onsider for your assessment. And because of that the mapper in OSM cannot verifiably determine if a wikidata object created based on such information qualifies for being specified in a wikidata tag. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [Tagging] part_of:wikidata key

showed that some (though not all) mappers think wikidata tags have to be unique (i.e. each value only used once). Website URLs will often be locally verifiable - either because of written information (shop sign, restaurant menu etc.) or - like with the name - by asking informed locals. -- Chri

Re: [Tagging] Permanent IDs RFC (was part_of:wikidata)

ikidata tags - just that the problems are seemingly outsourced to an external project and the mapper does not have to deal with them - which is wrong of course. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Education Reform

vide a clear 'upgrade path' to all widely used educational amenity tags - in particular amenity=college seems to be currently not covered by your proposal. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Taggi

Re: [Tagging] brand=* necessary?

i.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct for the documentation and discussion requirements of mechanical edits. > And it is only partly mechanical since I'm reviewing all objects. Wow - i wish i had that kind of travel budget. -- Christoph Ho

Re: [Tagging] brand=* necessary?

abel here - which is of course something a lot of mappers do when they choose name tags. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] brand=* necessary?

cation are an undiscussed mechanical edit and should be reverted. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] brand=* necessary?

g with the idea of supporting brands in their own > right, independently of a name . I should probably add that what can be considered the name of a feature is ultimately the decision of the local community. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] brand=* necessary?

ing to OSM's verifiability principle. There you are correct. But human use of names has the tendency to converge to a uniform name in many cases so if there are verbal identifiers used there is also often a verifiable name. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

om dry to water cover follows does not work. Offering this as an option in case mappers have more in depth knowledge is a good idea, i said that in the past. But making it mandatory is bound to fail. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

rse. 2) A good documentation of a tag on the wiki that accurately describes how the tag is acutally used is very helpful for both mappers and data users and as such very useful when making rendering decisions. Attempts at writing a tag page (or a tagging proposal) on the wiki specifically to get

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

still a desire for an authority to stop this even among those who are in general in support of a liberal and non-authoritarian community. An egalitarian and open community like OSM is a fragile thing... -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

s to document the actual use of tags. Abusing this platform to push political ideas how tagging in OSM should look like according to some opinion is what i call derailing the community processes. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

Any tag that is deliberately used by mappers (i.e. that is not a typo or vandalism or similar) should be documented on the wiki. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How about a Fork? Re: The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

hat could happen to OSM in the long term is that it becomes 'alternativlos' to both data users and contributors. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

like Approach 3 on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Forest See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:landuse%3Dforest=200189 in particular the section 'Attention'. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing lis

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

d no, with hard work i don't mean primarily to engage in endless dysfunctional tagging discussions here). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

resets any more since there would probably be sufficient diversity for this to be self regulating. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

other words: Here it just means the opposite of stagnation. Most people probably agree that in the OSM context the ultimate goal is to create the best map of the world. And that for this you need a global community of active local mappers. But this and all the details around it is a very differ

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

d by some tagging authority anyway. Most mappers want tags that represent what they see in reality, not something that fits into the systematics thought up by some committee of people from Central Europe and North America with no clue about the diversity in culture and geography world wide. -- Christop

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

lying landcover but many do > not. The concept is actually completely key agnostic. You could for example also use it for urban landuse - like a residential area with also a few shops using landuse=residential and landuse:secondary=retail. So not a good opportunity to piggy-back your landcove

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

wledge of the ephemeral nature). By the way about 100k of the 150k features with a seasonal=* tag also have an intermittent tag and the ~50k which do not include all the seasonal roads etc. So seasonal=* is for water features mostly used as a supplemental tag to intermittent=*. -- Christoph Horman

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

s primarily a woodland or a bare rock area but you could document the fact that both elements are present. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

was exactly opposite What you wrote was clear, i was talking about Warin's proposal which implies ("This should not be confused with intermittent") that you should either tag intermittent=* or ephemeral=* but not both. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

semantics are irrelevant for the actual meaning of tags. What a tag in OSM means depends on what it is actually used for, not what someone says the key used requires it to mean. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing lis

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

e: The human brain in highly capable in dealing with inconsistent rules in the environment. Most languages for example have grammatic and pronounciation rules with tons of exceptions (which is not unlike tags in OSM by the way) but people manage to deal with that. -- Chris

Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag

just would not be English any more. Your brave new world with an intelligent design of orthogonal keys would - apart from being an illusion (Kurt Gödel is greeting) - just not be OSM any more. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

ping geometries of different feature types of the same or similar semantic levels. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

hese do not depend on a data consumer (other than your fellow mappers in case of the second point). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

hose who do the work are - by a very large margin - the mappers. And developers should use the influence they inevitably have to support the mappers in making competent and viable decisions - in their interest, not in that of the data users. -

Re: [Tagging] [tagging] Canoe route / nautical channels

s (like using surface=* or usage=* on features it is so far not commonly used on) is also fine if it matches previous use in meaning. * adding new uses to existing primary tags is highly sensitive and should usually be discussed first. Creating a new tag is almost always a better idea. -- C

Re: [Tagging] [tagging] Canoe route / nautical channels

ithin lakes is that mapping a navigation route that coincidences with a river/canal running through and being mapped through a lake is much simpler because you can just use an additional tag instead of a separate geometry. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

map.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water covers this matter quite well. Please keep in mind that OSM is about local knowledge so the important question is if people locally drink the water or not. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] What should be used - [seasonal=spring] or [seasonal=spring + intermittent=yes]

em added in all cases is not an approach that is likely to be successful. Data users just have to deal with that. As a data user you should in particular be aware of course that intermittent=yes + seasonal=no is a meaningful combination (with 68k uses). -- Christoph Hormann

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

ant to stick to the former. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

s in tagging development) would help you in making decisions regarding tagging presets. Anyway - i look forward to iD offering the possibility to include different presets and hope this will lead to more diversity and more choices in tagging presets available to mappers. -- Christoph Hormann http://ww

Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard

a process to change tagging. Please don't interpret this as a critique of your attempts to improve tagging in OSM (which are admirable). My comment is only about actively connecting this to editor preset decisions. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

not ready to question your assumtions. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Part/whole confusion with Wikidata tag, and the need for enveloping parts into a whole

SM. Don't do that. If you want to create such a wiki page to describe your subjective perception of the situation that is fine - but you should indicate it as such. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

desirable water. Long story short: My recommendation would be tagging waterway=canal and specifying usage=* and width=*. This might not look ideal on the map but will allow all data users to correctly interpret the data. -- Christoph Hormann http:/

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

at the moment. Extending that would be the best way to move forward IMO. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

r part of the waterway. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

the kind of structures that were not on the radar of those who originally invented the waterway tags. > Now most of them are tagged with waterway=ditch. You probably agree that this is somewhat unfortunate because there is no way to distinguish them from a classic ditch for the data user. -

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

th tag width=*, if you don't want to map the width then don't create classes based on width thresholds. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Part/whole confusion with Wikidata tag, and the need for enveloping parts into a whole

d/landuse=forest is locally verifiable while the abstract concept of naming some of this woodland the Amazon rainforest is not. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] place nodes for continents?

Documentation of the tag does not provide any help. At least the Oceania node seems more like an arbitrary labeling node - and the classification and definition of Oceania as a continent is quite culture specific as well. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

to convince mappers to map in a certain way for the convenience of certain data users. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

r than 1m and less wide than 3m you have a pretty precise measurement. > However if you enter width="2 m", the width value > pretends to be exact. Why do you assume that? In OSM individual data points - be that in tags or in coordinates - come with no implication of accuracy of

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

cases under comparable circumstances with a known accurate reference value but practically this is not feasible. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Discussion of deprecation of 3 tags

Re-tagging these into something different would just bury the problems between other data. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

reservoir is in addition used widely for any kind of waterbodies containing dirty water (tailings ponds, sewage treatment plants etc.) where there is obviously no pre-existing waterbody. So you have two fairly unrelated applications of this.

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

t is not how the tag is used. water=reservoir is primarily used for dammed rivers. landuse=basin is mostly used for water areas created artificially where there was no pre-existing waterbody. If in your area these are mostly temporarily water filled that is due to climate and n

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC canal=qanat

feature and not just generic underground waterway tagging being used. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

est. This is a pragmatic solution because placing it inside the mangrove would be non-verifiable. Of course mapping the mangrove is important for the data to be meaningful in this case. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging ma

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

r area plus the line of the waterway are > mapping the longest extention of the river. To be clear: The upper limit of tidal influence on water levels and the ecological limit of the marine environment are two very different things. Tidal influence often goes much further upstream - as illustr

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

not correct, not to allow doubt free decisions in all boundary cases. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

create a verifiable definition of the geometry (which seems hard) - otherwise you always end up with this kind of label drawing. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is waterway=riverbank an 'Old scheme' ?

ter to map what you can observe on the sources available than to just guess. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

his is a bit different of course. But i don't want to discourage anyone from a actually defining new tags here - just make sure you document them in a verifiable form. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Spanish "manors"

ent a new tag if there is a clear distinction between the two that is practically verifiable by a mapper without specialized architectural or historic knowledge. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] aeroway=runway - wiki fiddling

f other methods and suggestions exist (linear way + polygon with the same tag, polygon only, linear way+ polygon with other tag) but none of them has found consistent use so far. * A four node polygon transports no additional information for a runway compared to a two node way wit

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

from the spatial relationship of the boundary relations. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

* mapping a boundary with relation tagging only with no tags on the way is correct. * tagging the ways in addition to the relation is ok but not required. * tagging on boundary relations superseedes any conflicting tagging on boundary ways. -- Christoph Hormann

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

approach is without good alternatives is a misapprehension of the situation. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

clear misuse of the tag). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

between boundaries at or near the coastline and those away from the coastline. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Coastal beach definition for mapping.

n beaches and tidal flats: A beach is formed by waves, it therefore always has a significant slope and is rarely wider than a few hundred meters. A tidal flat is a flat area exposed at low tide that is shaped by the tidal currents. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _

Re: [Tagging] Coastal beach definition for mapping.

//www.state.gov/documents/organization/57675.pdf Independent of that the placement of the coastline at river mouths is generally somewhat variable. I wrote a proposal a few years back aimed at defining some verifiable limits for that: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Coastline-Riv

Re: [Tagging] waterway=derelict_canal

dysfunctional the tag documentation on the wiki has become - in this case with the attempt to encourage improvement of the tag documentation being scuttled by silently removing the verifiability template. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [Tagging] Coastal beach definition for mapping.

6=14=3=bing-satellite=mapnik=google-satellite In the upper part this is clearly a beach (as visible in the Bing image with high water level). In the lower part with the tidal channels visible in the Google image it is clearly a tidal flat. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imag

Re: [Tagging] Manor tagging

haracteristic. I believe, but am not sure, that the same applies to > the UK manor houses . I think Martin's point was that a historic manor house does not have to fulfill a present day function as administrative centre of an agricultural estate. -- Christoph Ho

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - Voting - Hydropower waterways

ocumenting tags they invent or to improve missing documentation of existing tags. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

choices in quite a few cases is valid. I just disagree that the solution to that is having self declared leaders watch over the mappers. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lausitzer_Seenland Such features do not belong in OpenStreetMap. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

in countries with no general anti-discrimination laws w.r.t. gender identity and sexual orientation is lgbtq=no for establishments that specifically don't allow lgbtq people. That would essentially be an access restriction. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Research station

n most cases research stations have a well defined center but not a well defined outline it makes much more sense to map them with a node than with a polygon. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

the coastline but given the curved form at the eastern end a linear way could be clearer. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

w.openstreetmap.org/way/372986131 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2824513 a large portion of the geometry and as a result the derived way_area are completely non-verifiable. Also here a properly placed node would together with the coastline transport all the verifiable information about the geog

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

e of the node to the bay's shores is minimized. Most existing nodes comply with this rule remarkably well." -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

e properly placed node. I will keep this case in mind for the future as a good example to illustrate that. Note the current node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/561722 is of course not suitably placed. Correct position would be around here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=57

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

e design and placement of a label and scuttling that with the illusion of a defined extent is sad. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

reetmap-carto/issues/804 https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2068 https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imagico/diary/43957 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] My "weirdly unnatural aversion to relations"

pport consistent differentiation of standing and flowing water is one thing - but this is not directly related to the different tagging schemes and it has nothing to do with anything Russian. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

at these are physically based rules rooted in the observable reality and not based on political or other purely abstract considerations. Some newer examples of problematic closure placements (in addition to the ones in the proposal): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/463191729 https

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

t as a fraction of the open ocean salinity in the area). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

et the local situation or when inexperienced mappers are unaware of the significance of distinguishing between ocean and riverbank mapping. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Coastline for rivers, estuaries and mangroves?

sal which is linked to from the coastline documentation. > Given a properly formulated rule-of-thumb, why should remote armchair > mappers come to a different conclusion to local mappers in this case? As said this is mostly due to misinterpreting image

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

s kind of defeats the whole purpose. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

On Wednesday 26 September 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 26.09.2018 16:14, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > Also in Germany we have features with no German name (most notably > > probably in regions with significant minority languages but also > > for example some

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

i.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Language_information_for_name but this only covers the single language case and would only have addressed a very small fraction of the naming problems in OSM. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

As said the aim is not to duplicate the name data but to replace the generic name tag that has no defined language with the individual language name tags. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

- even if just from a single person's perspective. But that is already quite a huge amount of work. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Draft Proposal: Default Langauge Format

convince data users to implement interpretation of a new tagging system up-front without the database containing significant amounts of data where this would be useful for. This is not just buying the cat in a sac, it is like building a home for the cat without having seen it yet. -- Christo

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

icient to query in the form you want to use. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

here. What arguments you have against this suggestion will decide which of the above groups you belong to. ;-) -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Using multipolygons to map bays in Alaska

e geography of the world. That the existence of Jamaica Bay is part of that is not in dispute but still it is important to make that distinction. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.o

Re: [Tagging] Tagging mangroves over water?

er. Rendering mangroves with a fill color has already been discussed in: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/1497 https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2025 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

wiki/Tag:natural=cape These are typical major capes: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/32532727 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2510985983 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2098928265 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4727612495 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2696775247 -- C

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

for the real thing from the sea) near here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5316727559 The area Cape Canaveral AFS is built on https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7384620 is called Canaveral Peninsula (unmapped in OSM - see USGS topos as well) which is part of Merritt Island. -- Christoph

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