Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-02 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Monday 03 August 2009 06:50:36 Stefan Baebler wrote: > openstreetmap.si is currently pointing to openstreetmap.org due to > hosting problems. I will be happy to add it to the list as soon as it come back. -- Vincent MEURISSE ___ talk mailing list tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-02 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Sunday 02 August 2009 23:42:13 Shaun McDonald wrote: > http://openstreetmap.co.uk redirects to the main site. > (as does .com) The goal is to create interlinks between country communities (like most of the actual websites do, but with a complete list). I'm not really interested by aliases of t

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > Similarly deletions can be reverted easily No, because the osc file does not contain all information about the previous state of the deleted object! (It only works for untagged nodes.) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09

Re: [OSM-talk] Help Deleting Changeset

2009-08-02 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/8/3 Ian Dees : > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Lennard wrote: >> >> I would think you'd have to open a new changeset and upload the >> osmChange directly to the API, not from JOSM. > > How would I go about doing that? I suppose I could use curl or something > similar, but is there a better

Re: [OSM-talk] Help Deleting Changeset

2009-08-02 Thread Lennard
Ian Dees wrote: > How would I go about doing that? I suppose I could use curl or something > similar, but is there a better way? If you can run perl scripts, have a look at: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/utils/revert -- Lennard ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Help Deleting Changeset

2009-08-02 Thread Ian Dees
(Sorry, should have reply-all'd): On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Lennard wrote: > I would think you'd have to open a new changeset and upload the > osmChange directly to the API, not from JOSM. How would I go about doing that? I suppose I could use curl or something similar, but is there a be

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM s atellite?

2009-08-02 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:47:23 + (GMT), John Smith wrote: > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) > wrote: > >> But it can also result in an "OpenLunaMap" :D > > You'd also get a star map too ;) "Hubble go home, I have a compact cam" :D -- Brgds Aun Johnsen via Webmail __

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Tag the width of the surface on which users of the way are expected to >> travel. > I agree and would like to add: "and that is not constricted in the > full usable height" I think the maxheight tag should be used here. There is no nee

Re: [OSM-talk] Help Deleting Changeset

2009-08-02 Thread Lennard
Ian Dees wrote: > I downloaded the osmChange file from [1], changed all the to > and tried to upload it with JOSM. JOSM says there's no data to > upload. I would think you'd have to open a new changeset and upload the osmChange directly to the API, not from JOSM. PS: Why did you tag all tho

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) wrote: > But it can also result in an "OpenLunaMap" :D You'd also get a star map too ;) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Help Deleting Changeset

2009-08-02 Thread Ian Dees
Hi everyone, I was looking at importing some cemetery borders from Iowa today. I did the SHP->OSM conversion and fired up JOSM and started uploading. At the end, JOSM gave me an error saying that the server returned a 500 error code, so I gave up and went about my business. Fast forward to just n

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM s atellite?

2009-08-02 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:29:19 + (GMT), John Smith wrote: > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Michael Kugelmann wrote: > >> The article also says: >> >  It has three-quarters of the mass (0.75-kg) and >> volume of a CubeSat >> >> => quite small and the capacity will not be suficcient >> for appropriate >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Michael Kugelmann wrote: > The article also says: > >  It has three-quarters of the mass (0.75-kg) and > volume of a CubeSat > > => quite small and the capacity will not be suficcient > for appropriate > lens/camera. And I'm shure it is not 3 axis stabilisation > => no

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread David Lynch
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 06:56, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2009/8/2 Liz : > >> So the question is: >> is there anything about a road inside an industrial or commercial area which >> would be important inside a renderer or a routing engine >> and is different to a residential road? > > yes. > A res

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/3 Roy Wallace : > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Martin > Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Certainly it would be even more useful, if there was a definition how >> to measure (inside road marking, complete with pavement, does the >> lateral paved area outside the road marking count, etc.). > > I thin

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
OJ W schrieb: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Marc Coevoet wrote: >> You can try the quadcopter too.. > > how would launching a quadcopter into orbit help? That's a small step for openstreetmap, one giant leap for quadcopters ;-) Regards, ULFL ___

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-02 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/8/2 Ulf Mehlig : > I tried to revert two large changesets of mine (double import of > municipal borders in Pará/north Brazil due to a local network problem) > via revert.pl (fresh from svn); in the middle of the reversal process, I > got the message > > GET http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Certainly it would be even more useful, if there was a definition how > to measure (inside road marking, complete with pavement, does the > lateral paved area outside the road marking count, etc.). I think this is very important, and pro

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ulf Mehlig wrote: > I tried to revert the changesets again, via ssh from a server with much > faster internet connection ... on second try revert.pl terminated > without an error message now, but the ways of the respective changesets > are still there when I download parts of the area in JOSM;

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Pieren wrote: > I'm not sure that the width of what we consider unclassified roads > will double in the next century. Nevertheless, anything referring to "what we consider" is more variable across time and people than the length of a metre. > I never mentionned nar

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-02 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 2 Aug 2009, at 23:26, Ulf Mehlig wrote: Replying to my own email ... I tried to revert the changesets again, via ssh from a server with much faster internet connection ... on second try revert.pl terminated without an error message now, but the ways of the respective changesets are st

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Mehlig
Replying to my own email ... I tried to revert the changesets again, via ssh from a server with much faster internet connection ... on second try revert.pl terminated without an error message now, but the ways of the respective changesets are still there when I download parts of the area in JOSM;

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/3 Pieren : > Again, width is not less subjective because it is always estimated > (deprecating est_width just hides this point), actually according to the German ML there is some guys around with laser-distos to measure the real width. > it is missing in most > of the highways, it is chang

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-02 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 02/08/2009, Peter Koerner wrote: > andrzej zaborowski schrieb: >> Hi Peter, >> I don't think anybody has a reason to object to merging them. At >> least me and User:Mala have been merging some of these nodes last week >> and we got no blackmail so far :) I believe we went through all the >> c

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Blaž Lorger wrote: >> To my knowledge there is no such thing as usual highway width. There are >> certain standards for width of newly built roads, but those usually increase >> over time, which means you will be

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Patrick Aljord schrieb: > http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/01/interorbital-syatems-tubesat-personal-satellite-kit/ > > From the article: >> Total Price of the TubeSat Kit including a Launch to Orbit is $8,000! >> > ... > The article also says: > It has three-quarters of the mass (0.75-k

Re: [OSM-talk] residential and unclassified in Australia WAS definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
/moved this discussion to another thread as it is not about the topic in the headline/ 2009/8/2 Elizabeth Dodd : > On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Furthermore industrial areas are >> built according to standards that allow easy use with trucks, while in >> residential areas you w

[OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-02 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
Hi, I'm trying to build a list of the national osm websites available. Here is the list I ended with : Domains with content: http://www.openstreetmap.org http://www.openstreetmap.ch http://www.openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cz http://www.openstreetmap.de http://www.openstreetmap.es htt

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread OJ W
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Marc Coevoet wrote: > You can try the quadcopter too.. how would launching a quadcopter into orbit help? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Roy Wallace
And by the way, the Key:width wiki page is horrible and could do with a rework after this discussion. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Blaž Lorger wrote: > To my knowledge there is no such thing as usual highway width. There are > certain standards for width of newly built roads, but those usually increase > over time, which means you will be forced to periodically reevaluate *ALL* > "narrow" taggi

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-02 Thread Lennard
andrzej zaborowski wrote: > out of your list at most 15 or so countries should still remain > duplicated. Just fixed The Netherlands, and clicked on some other countries, which were all fixed already. I didn't have the heart to go through the whole list, since a bot could easily do that as well

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-02 Thread Peter Körner
andrzej zaborowski schrieb: > Hi Peter, > I don't think anybody has a reason to object to merging them. At > least me and User:Mala have been merging some of these nodes last week > and we got no blackmail so far :) I believe we went through all the > country nodes which didn't have a name:pl= or

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread Marc Coevoet
Patrick Aljord schreef: > http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/01/interorbital-syatems-tubesat-personal-satellite-kit/ > > From the article: > > >> Total Price of the TubeSat Kit including a Launch to Orbit is $8,000! >> > ... > You can try the quadcopter too.. http://www.quadcopter.org/

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Furthermore industrial areas are > built according to standards that allow easy use with trucks, while in > residential areas you will more often have smaller streets and > straighter curves, which will cause problems to big trucks. That does not a

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-02 Thread andrzej zaborowski
Hi Peter, I don't think anybody has a reason to object to merging them. At least me and User:Mala have been merging some of these nodes last week and we got no blackmail so far :) I believe we went through all the country nodes which didn't have a name:pl= or name:it= assigned yet so out of your

[OSM-talk] Does this mean we could launch our own OSM satellite?

2009-08-02 Thread Patrick Aljord
http://spacefellowship.com/2009/08/01/interorbital-syatems-tubesat-personal-satellite-kit/ From the article: > Total Price of the TubeSat Kit including a Launch to Orbit is $8,000! ... > Examples of add-on experiments or functions include the following: > ▼ Earth-from-space video imaging > ▼ Ea

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Liz wrote: > lots of things sound bad, but we need more than "feel good" answers to make > good maps. > > So the question is: > is there anything about a road inside an industrial or commercial area which > would be important inside a renderer or a routing engine > a

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-02 Thread Peter Körner
Pieren schrieb: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Peter Körner wrote: >> I noticed that for some countries there seems to be more than one node. >> E.g. for Slovakia there are 5: >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424313572 >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/432425079 >> http://w

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-alps - European Alps mailing list

2009-08-02 Thread Marc Coevoet
Ciprian Talaba schreef: > I'm in the Alps right now (summer vacation), mapping Westendorf, Austria :) > > Anyone around here? > > Well, I found out this weekend: Maps of Austria, Switzerland, Germany ... "for free", oh well, by the russian site: http://www.topomaps.eu/europe/ some 1/100.000

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-alps - European Alps mailing list

2009-08-02 Thread Ciprian Talaba
I'm in the Alps right now (summer vacation), mapping Westendorf, Austria :) Anyone around here? --Ciprian On 8/2/09, Mike Collinson wrote: > There is now a talk-alps mailing list. This is for mapping parties, topics > and general discussion for anyone mapping in the European Alps. > > This is

Re: [OSM-talk] SoC 2009 - static maps API - prototype version

2009-08-02 Thread Paweł Niechoda
Hi all According to feedback I recived I have add some new featurs to static API. So now there is a better way of controlling how drawings are drawn (transparence, thickness, color could be defined for each object separately, there is a way to put image onto the map). It is also possible to put sc

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-alps - European Alps mailing list

2009-08-02 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-alps mailing list. This is for mapping parties, topics and general discussion for anyone mapping in the European Alps. This is experiment for a multi-language list for discussion in Italian, French, German, Slovenian, Romanche and, oh, may be English too. If it does not wor

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Nic Roets
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Ulf Lamping wrote: > > If people use the term doctors, we shouldn't force them to use doctor > just to fit some guideline (not rule) in the wiki. > IMHO you should change the wiki. It's much to easy for an newbie to change something on the wiki, without him or her

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/2 John Smith : > > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Ulf Lamping wrote: > >> Because it *IS IN USE* otherwise. > > It takes very little time to do such a mass change on nodes. That's true and everbody can do it, but it takes far longer to update all definitions (in this case maybe not) and all applicati

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Because it *IS IN USE* otherwise. It takes very little time to do such a mass change on nodes. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: > 2009/8/2 Ulf Lamping : >> Well, when I introduced doctors in JOSMs mappaint (and Christoph to the >> Presets), there was a clear majority of doctors and not doctor. >> >> If people use the term doctors, we shouldn't force them to use doctor just >> to fit some guideli

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/2 Cartinus : > unfortunately the action taken didn't help to improve consistency and since Feb the number increased from 1700 to 2700. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Cartinus
-- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/2 Ulf Lamping : > Well, when I introduced doctors in JOSMs mappaint (and Christoph to the > Presets), there was a clear majority of doctors and not doctor. > > If people use the term doctors, we shouldn't force them to use doctor just > to fit some guideline (not rule) in the wiki. Do you r

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: > 2009/8/2 John Smith : >>> list" but before annoying everyone on that list, I thought >>> that which is the >>> preferred tag should be decided. >> JOSM has numerous tags that aren't "official" >> >> Speaking of which, can anyone think of a better way to put aren't lis

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/2 Blaž Lorger : > Again, what is default width of the road? this depends on the type of road and on the footways/pavements and other present. Look here at the pictures on the right to identiy different elements: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra%C3%9Fenquerschnitt some standards/proposed w

Re: [OSM-talk] tag:amenity=doctor

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/2 John Smith : >> list" but before annoying everyone on that list, I thought >> that which is the >> preferred tag should be decided. > > JOSM has numerous tags that aren't "official" > > Speaking of which, can anyone think of a better way to put aren't listed on > the map features wiki pag

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Sunday 02 August 2009 14:40:09 Pieren wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Blaž Lorger wrote: > > Let's see: > > 1. There is no clear definition what is narrow. > > 2. There is no specification for default width of road type. > > 3. If narrow=yes is not applied everywhere where it should be

[OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-02 Thread Ulf Mehlig
I tried to revert two large changesets of mine (double import of municipal borders in Pará/north Brazil due to a local network problem) via revert.pl (fresh from svn); in the middle of the reversal process, I got the message GET http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/node/451437544/history... 500 In

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/2 Pieren : > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Martin > Koppenhoefer wrote: >> yes. A residential road should be avoided if possible (slow, dangerous >> and noisy for residents / playing kids) > > Add "for cars". It could be the opposite for cycling as it is writen here: > http://wiki.openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > yes. A residential road should be avoided if possible (slow, dangerous > and noisy for residents / playing kids) Add "for cars". It could be the opposite for cycling as it is writen here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cycleway#On-Ro

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Blaž Lorger wrote: > Let's see: > 1. There is no clear definition what is narrow. > 2. There is no specification for default width of road type. > 3. If narrow=yes is not applied everywhere where it should be it is equally > useful/useless as with width tag. Adding

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/2 Liz : > So the question is: > is there anything about a road inside an industrial or commercial area which > would be important inside a renderer or a routing engine > and is different to a residential road? yes. A residential road should be avoided if possible (slow, dangerous and noisy

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/1 Christiaan Welvaart : > On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > It seems to be an interpretation problem for the phrase 'administrave class' > then because I clearly argued that who is the maintainer of the road should > not directly influence the value of the highway tag. What I

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Sunday 02 August 2009 12:36:48 Pieren wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Blaž Lorger wrote: > > Wiki clearly states why tag narrow=yes would be a bad idea > > (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:width#Using_relative_sizes). > > Basically, what is wide for bicycle is narrow for a car,

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Liz
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote: > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Blaž Lorger wrote: > > I also propose extending instructions for road > > classification to use width tag > > I agree with everything else you wrote except width since I really don't > want to get a tape measure out and measure widths of

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/1 James Stewart : > Classifying roads in central asia, it is easier, and makes more sense in my > opinion to use the highway ref in the administrative sense. Some countries > or regions have 5 or 6 main roads with are the national trunk system. In > places they are almost reduced to tracks t

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Liz
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Pieren wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:03 PM, James Livingston wrote: > > If we ignore the Australian tagging guidelines, what should we use for > > roads that are the same as residential ones but in an industrial area? > > According to the wiki, unclassified roads are wider

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Blaž Lorger wrote: > Main point here is to identify narrow roads. This is where > road width matters > the most. It is obvious that narrow roads will have 2 > lanes. Unfortunately, > those lanes will be narrow (2m or less). So number of lanes > will in no way > indicate r

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Blaž Lorger wrote: > Wiki clearly states why tag narrow=yes would be a bad idea > (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:width#Using_relative_sizes). > Basically, what is wide for bicycle is narrow for a car, what is wide for a > car is narrow for a truck ... The

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Sunday 02 August 2009 11:57:12 John Smith wrote: > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Blaž Lorger wrote: > > Unfortunately lanes only specifies number of lanes. In > > general every road that > > is not one way has at least 2 lanes, even if it is narrow, > > say 3.5 meters. > > Even one way roads can have mul

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Blaž Lorger wrote: > Specifying actual or at least estimated width is only way > to ensure that data > is universally usable. I guess heavy truck driver would not > be amused when > navigation system would direct him in 3m wide residential > street, while car > driver woul

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-02 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Peter Körner wrote: > I noticed that for some countries there seems to be more than one node. > E.g. for Slovakia there are 5: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424313572 > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/432425079 > http://www.openstreetmap.org/br

Re: [OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-02 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/08/09 11:06, OJ W wrote: > It would need to be in rails to go on the main page though, so if any > ruby programmer wants to implement it, I can tell them what needs > doing? (use the zoom level to choose 3 appropriately-spaced points > around the lat/lon, lookup the placenames at each point

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Sunday 02 August 2009 11:49:06 Pieren wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:59 AM, John Smith wrote: > > I agree with everything else you wrote except width since I really don't > > want to get a tape measure out and measure widths of roads, using lanes=* > > to estimate widths would be more sensib

Re: [OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, OJ W wrote: > You have to make some assumptions about screen size though > - 50.5,-0.2 > @z11 on a mobile phone might be 'central london', while the > same query > on Al Gore's array of monitors might be 'europe' Can't you get screen resolution and then calculate the zoom

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:03 PM, James Livingston wrote: > If we ignore the Australian tagging guidelines, what should we use for > roads that are the same as residential ones but in an industrial area? > According to the wiki, unclassified roads are wider than residential > ones, and while roads i

[OSM-talk] Multiple nodes for one country

2009-08-02 Thread Peter Körner
I noticed that for some countries there seems to be more than one node. E.g. for Slovakia there are 5: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424313572 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/432425079 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/424315420 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2

Re: [OSM-talk] Title bars (dynamic updating of)

2009-08-02 Thread OJ W
that's easy enough to do It would need to be in rails to go on the main page though, so if any ruby programmer wants to implement it, I can tell them what needs doing? (use the zoom level to choose 3 appropriately-spaced points around the lat/lon, lookup the placenames at each point (optionally c

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-08-02 Thread James Livingston
On 01/08/2009, at 7:38 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Well, you can do this, but most routers will try not to use > residential roads if there is another way. Maybe things are different over in Europe than here in Australia. My Garmin when using commercial maps and a friend's NavMan are both m

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Marc Schütz
Am Sonntag 02 August 2009 11:49:11 schrieb Blaž Lorger: > On Sunday 02 August 2009 10:59:08 John Smith wrote: > > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Blaž Lorger wrote: > > > I also propose extending instructions for road > > > classification to use width tag > > > > I agree with everything else you wrote except

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Pieren wrote: > I prefere to add "narrow=yes" combined with residential or > unclassified (or any other) highways. It should be > interpreted as > "between 75% to 50% narrower than the default width of this > highway > type". +1 __

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Blaž Lorger wrote: > Unfortunately lanes only specifies number of lanes. In > general every road that > is not one way has at least 2 lanes, even if it is narrow, > say 3.5 meters. Even one way roads can have multiple lanes. Like dual carriage ways :) > Some good practices

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Blaž Lorger
On Sunday 02 August 2009 10:59:08 John Smith wrote: > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Blaž Lorger wrote: > > I also propose extending instructions for road > > classification to use width tag > > I agree with everything else you wrote except width since I really don't > want to get a tape measure out and meas

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:59 AM, John Smith wrote: > I agree with everything else you wrote except width since I really don't want > to get a tape measure out and measure widths of roads, using lanes=* to > estimate widths would be more sensible and is already in use. +1 I prefere to add "narrow

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Blaž Lorger wrote: > I also propose extending instructions for road > classification to use width tag I agree with everything else you wrote except width since I really don't want to get a tape measure out and measure widths of roads, using lanes=* to estimate widths wou

[OSM-talk] tagging roads

2009-08-02 Thread Blaž Lorger
Hi, I have noticed intense discussion about changing how roads should be tagged. It seems that some people devised their own way how to apply different values for highway tag and now attempt to force this on everybody. On the other hand some people are attempting to introduce new values for hi