Re: [Talk-ca] Data imported from Geobase_Import_2009 and tags

2010-03-29 Thread James Ewen
with the left: right: type of situation. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap OSM data expanded

2010-03-25 Thread James Andrewartha
:) Awesome, we can finally see the fruits of the work based on Nearmap. Non-transparent tiles on nearmap.com has been something I've wanted for ages, is there a URL hack we can use for the moment? James ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [talk-au] The funny things bored people get up to...

2010-03-22 Thread James Andrewartha
On 22 March 2010 15:38, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.44227lon=153.03687zoom=17layers=B000FTF Not sure why someone tagged all the railway lines like that... Like what, exactly? The tagging looks perfectly cromulent to me. James

Re: [talk-au] The funny things bored people get up to...

2010-03-22 Thread James Andrewartha
On 22 March 2010 16:52, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 March 2010 18:48, James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: On 22 March 2010 15:38, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.44227lon=153.03687zoom=17layers=B000FTF

Re: [talk-au] The funny things bored people get up to...

2010-03-22 Thread James Andrewartha
On 22 March 2010 19:53, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 March 2010 21:21, James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: That's what they're called, so yes. Called by whom? All I ever see published is things like North Shore Line etc... This is a railway yard

Re: [talk-au] The funny things bored people get up to...

2010-03-22 Thread James Andrewartha
On 22 March 2010 19:57, James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: On 22 March 2010 19:53, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 March 2010 21:21, James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: That's what they're called, so yes. Called by whom? All I ever see

Re: [talk-au] The funny things bored people get up to...

2010-03-22 Thread James Andrewartha
On 22 March 2010 20:15, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 March 2010 21:57, James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: This is a railway yard, the various lines are called Road #, eg http://broadway.pennsyrr.com/Rail/Prr/Maps/Itlk/pavonia.gif Anything a little more

[Talk-ca] Buggered up way

2010-03-13 Thread James Ewen
. I clicked on the inspector, and it tells me that there are 79 ways associated with the point I clicked on... There should only be one. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/45266403 AUUGGG James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca

[Talk-ca] Trunk highways.

2010-03-13 Thread James Ewen
unnamed individual merging ways that shouldn't have been. I still need to promote highway 28 to Cold Lake to meet the list of trunk ways. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Highways in Yukon

2010-03-11 Thread James Ewen
of road might only be a gravel surface. If it were up to me, classification would denote the importance of the road in the road network, and surface, number of lanes, and other tags would describe the physical attributes of the roadway. My two bits, and then some! James VE6SRV

Re: [Talk-ca] Highways in Yukon

2010-03-11 Thread James Ewen
what the rendering engines will do with it. The database and renderers are pretty much married to each other. Without the database, the renderers are useless. Without the renderers, it's pretty hard to visualize the data. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing

Re: [Talk-ca] PR stuff Ottawa Opendata Sat 24th April

2010-03-10 Thread James Ewen
application, you just have to pay to use it more than 3 times, or look at a bunch of advertising, etc... It's all about education! James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Edmonton edits

2010-03-08 Thread James Ewen
be what it's used for. I think I recall seeing a new bridge structure there now. Xellos is on my friends list. I'll see if I can get his attention. I have never seen him on this reflector though. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca

[Talk-ca] Streets with frontage roads...

2010-03-08 Thread James Ewen
/grandingsv Having Google Streetview available is great, as it makes it really easy to share real world views of the area easily. I am constantly amazed at the information we have available these days! James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Google Streetview

2010-03-08 Thread James Ewen
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, si...@mungewell.org wrote: Geobase should have all of the Canadian street names, and we can use those... just need to figure a way to display both to allow easy copying/transferal. GeoBase contains some errors... One road near the area Richard pointed out that

Re: [Talk-ca] vreimer again

2010-03-06 Thread James Ewen
world has been rendered less than perfect, and that almost all of these edits all have the same username associated with them. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

[Talk-ca] vreimer again

2010-03-05 Thread James Ewen
Now he's buggered up Lesser Slave Lake... http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/50259428 How do you revert screw ups? James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [talk-au] Bus, tram and train stop data license change

2010-03-04 Thread James Andrewartha
ask them how much creativity/definable authorship was involved in creating the database - if there isn't any you could mention that it's not copyrightable anyway. James Andrewartha ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

[Talk-es] vía de alta capacidad

2010-03-03 Thread James Stewart
capacidad, normalmente autonomicas, que tag suele usar? 'trunk' es para carreteras national (N-XXX), 'primary' doblados son con 'motorroad' si la matricula no es 'A...' He pensado a utilizar 'motorway' pero con via unica, o primary con motorroad. Que opinéis? (http://osm.org/go/b9KyMnb) James

Re: [Talk-ca] What Google Copying?

2010-03-01 Thread James Ewen
, and maybe help educate them a little bit. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

[Talk-es] Re: Increíble

2010-02-23 Thread James Stewart
...! Saludos James Message: 7 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:26:25 +0100 From: sanchi sanc...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Talk-es] Increíble To: Discusión en Español de OpenStreetMap talk-es@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 84997c5f1002221826u1ac136e9w632b5e78c7a40...@mail.gmail.com Content

[Talk-ca] Transient roads

2010-02-20 Thread James Ewen
to winter roads in the BC, Alberta, and Manitoba wiki pages. Does anyone know of any examples of roads with access restrictions based on time/season? James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

[OSM-talk] fwd: Two thirds of mobile users want driving AND walking navigation

2010-02-15 Thread James Stewart
http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/36033/MWC-2010-Two-thirds-of-mobile-users-want-driving-AND-walking-navigation MWC 2010: Two thirds of mobile users want driving AND walking navigation by Stuart Dredge | Email a friend | PrintAdd a comment Two legs good, four tyres not necessarily better A

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person

2010-02-11 Thread James Livingston
On 11/02/2010, at 8:14 PM, Stefan Neufeind wrote: Agreed, trying to ask them would be a good thing. Has helped in some cases in the past where authorities (city government or the like) re-thought their license :-) The Australian Toilet Map data got discussed on talk-au back in December, and

Re: [talk-au] repurcussions of IceTV decision

2010-02-11 Thread James Livingston
On 11/02/2010, at 5:33 AM, Liz wrote: Haven't got far through the judgement so far but this sounds quite clear. 7. The Copyright Act does not protect facts, ideas or information contained in a work, to ensure a balance is struck between the interests of authors and those in society: IceTV

Re: [Talk-ca] Attribution (Previously Modifying GeoBase Ways)

2010-01-26 Thread James Ewen
the attribution requirement, without having to worry about which specific portion of the data is derived from which source. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-21 Thread James Livingston
On 21/01/2010, at 9:35 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: I would suggest tagging the way leisure=slipway. If you need to break the current specification to do so, then make a note on the wiki page. Tagging it highway=service seems wrong. Service roads do not go underwater... The tagging system is

Re: [talk-au] access=destination

2010-01-15 Thread James Livingston
On 15/01/2010, at 8:45 PM, Liz wrote: so perhaps the signs are actually meaningless in law they appear in council minutes so perhaps its a local council job From my searching, it looks like councils are responsible for putting up these signs and I couldn't find any actual legal definition of

Re: [talk-au] Haitian Earthquake Emphasizes Danger of a Split Geo Community

2010-01-15 Thread James Livingston
On 16/01/2010, at 9:32 AM, John Smith wrote: This seems like a spurious argument, ok your suggestion will allow both projects to profit from your data, but any additions can't be shared back with your suggested project, nor will Google share any of it's data back, unless it's in Google's own

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-08 Thread James Livingston
On 07/01/2010, at 5:25 PM, John Smith wrote: 2010/1/7 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: I usually interpret designated as signed, which is an attractive interpretation because it's verifiable. To avoid confusion perhaps it should have been bicycle=signed? :) Then we would have confusion

Re: [talk-au] Default access restrictions

2010-01-06 Thread James Andrewartha
, arguably roads should be foot=no. James Andrewartha ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Distinguish between National, State etc parks

2010-01-04 Thread James Livingston
On 04/01/2010, at 9:57 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: . Ok, there are a few issues. First, natural= just describes what's on the land, like trees or not, so isn't useful. The right tag would be something like landuse=reserve, although this appears to be still under debate:

Re: [talk-au] Relations, road names and numbers

2010-01-04 Thread James Livingston
On 04/01/2010, at 5:19 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: The question is, should we move highway= onto the relation for all relations? There's probably a fix for Mapnik to save editing every relation we've done, so I've added a ticket to OSM. http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2599 I wouldn't

Re: [talk-au] MapOSMatic will now do any where...

2010-01-01 Thread James Andrewartha
? To be brutally honest, no one cares who you do or don't reply to. I do, as his decision will mean less of your spam on the list (of course now I'm guilty of this, but whatever). James Andrewartha ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] What's the policy on unsurveyed roads from imagery?

2009-12-27 Thread David James
; the national speed limit is different for single carriageways, dual carriageways, and motorways (though I think all motorways are explicitly signed with the relevant speed limit). The national speed limit has changed in the past. -- David James ___ talk

Re: [talk-au] hiding boundary=administrative by default

2009-12-26 Thread James Andrewartha
? Here's an example, and while OSM projects are probably much better than Ubuntu at fixing bugs, the equation still holds: http://glyphobet.net/blog/blurb/1214 James Andrewartha ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-14 Thread James Livingston
On 14/12/2009, at 6:41 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: I think my central argument is this: Your sports_club venue could be - a sports facility with no eating/drinking/gambling facilities for the public - an eating/drinking/gambling venue for the public with no sports facilities - or both. This

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-14 Thread James Livingston
On 14/12/2009, at 6:58 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: The reason I thought they may be a QLD thing is the state Government here licences them a bit differently from your average pub (or used to, I haven't checked lately). Thus the (official) members only rules, connection to a sport club, etc.

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-14 Thread James Livingston
On 14/12/2009, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:03 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: I'm sure that there was a tag for the first, although I can't find it now. Something like leisure=club_rooms or similar, which related to a sporting group but wasn't

[Talk-us] Issues in New Mexico

2009-12-14 Thread James Umbanhowar
Does anyone know why the area around around Raton, NM looks like it is melting? I don't think it even renders in Osmarender. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.93134lon=-104.46384zoom=16layers=B000FTF ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Issues in New Mexico

2009-12-14 Thread James Umbanhowar
Thanks, I reverted them back to their last known address-- much closer to Santa Fe than Santa Claus. James (resending to list) On Monday 14 December 2009 12:21:07 pm you wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 09:18 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 12:07 -0500, James Umbanhowar wrote

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 09/12/2009, at 11:46 AM, Anthony wrote: A transfer of copyright is a transfer of exclusive rights. In the US, and probably in other jurisdictions as well, it must be signed and in writing. One key difference is that someone who is granted a nonexclusive license does not have the power

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 12/12/2009, at 7:07 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: But if the foundation wants to have copyright in the data I think it's trivial for it to have some by doing *some* of the maintenance edits on behalf of the foundation or one person (or more) transferring their rights instead of everyone

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Fwd: Re: Why PD is not better for business

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 11/12/2009, at 8:02 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: so we don't need imported data? In most cases we don't need imported data, but it can be useful. For example rather than painstakingly crafting the entire coastline of Australia from a few GPS traces and a lot of imagery (much is relatively

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Why PD is not better for business

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 11/12/2009, at 8:02 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: so we don't need imported data? In most cases we don't need imported data, but it can be useful. For example rather than painstakingly crafting the entire coastline of Australia from a few GPS traces and a lot of imagery (much is relatively

Re: [Talk-ca] FW: Canvec import in Montréal with ? names

2009-12-11 Thread James A. Treacy
. -- James Treacy tre...@debian.org ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] And the prize for the largest closed way goes to...

2009-12-10 Thread James Livingston
On 10/12/2009, at 6:57 PM, Liz wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Frederik Ramm wrote: ... the excellent Philippines mapping team who managed to create one single closed way enclosing an area of roughly 300 thousand square kilometres! http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=32126765 The runner-up is

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-10 Thread James Livingston
On Wednesday, December 09, 2009, at 03:25PM, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote: BP allows free download of GPS data for their Australian service stations. Has anyone asked any of the other companies yet? If not, I'll send some emails about:

Re: [Talk-GB] Grauniad top 100 websites

2009-12-10 Thread David James
, borrow that tag-line? Wouldn't that require a long discussion on licensing conditions with the Grauniad? (insert smiley of choice ...) -- David James ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [talk-au] Implications of license change on use of Australian data sources (e.g. nearmap)

2009-12-09 Thread James Livingston
On 09/12/2009, at 6:38 PM, Roy Wallace wrote: If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include that information in a work, you will own that work, and may distribute it to others under a Creative Commons licence. Does that not imply that the derived information may only be

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-09 Thread James Livingston
On 09/12/2009, at 8:26 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: Can we really maintain this? These services come and go fairly frequently. Individual things like whether they have LPG filling for bbqs maybe, but servos don't move that often (usually taken over by another one). In any case, it's probably not

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-09 Thread James Livingston
On 09/12/2009, at 8:41 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:37 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: I'd suggest doing something like import if there is not an existing amenity=fuel within X distance, flag it for manual checking if there is. Ah, didn't know that kind

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-08 Thread James Andrewartha
can work around it by merging a node and a way, then deleting the superfluous node. I don't think you can merge two ways though. Ctrl-click in JOSM joins two ways. there are two other really good ones which are key combos and i use from the menu orthogonalise shape AOL / James Andrewartha

Re: [talk-au] Using Nearmap with JOSM

2009-12-08 Thread James Andrewartha
2009/12/9 David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net: - Original Message - From: James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au I find Potlatch is better for from-scratch editing, but for editing existing data JOSM is as good. The modal thing is annoying, but when there's already ways you can

Re: [talk-au] Can't see the facts for the FUD

2009-12-07 Thread James Livingston
On 07/12/2009, at 7:29 PM, John Smith wrote: 2009/12/7 Liz ed...@billiau.net: James has been pointing out that the Feds, who can afford good lawyers, find CC-by-Sa and CC-by as quite satisfactory in Australia. As far as I can gather CC-BY-SA most likely won't work in the US, so I can only

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-05 Thread James Livingston
On 06/12/2009, at 8:44 AM, Ulf Lamping wrote: Tom Hughes schrieb: Polling the OSMF members is just the first stage - there will another vote later when all contributors will be asked whether they want to relicense. With a gun at their head: Refuse: After the migration (currently 26th

Re: [OSM-talk] [Announce] OSMF license change vote has started

2009-12-05 Thread James Livingston
On 06/12/2009, at 10:05 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: James Livingston wrote: For example, I have inferred road positions from the CC-BY-licensed Queensland DCDB-lite dataset, and have uploaded national park and world-heritage areas from the CC-BY dataset on data.australia.gov.au. As I'm

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread James Livingston
On 05/12/2009, at 10:29 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote: Certainly we should make this case clear to the OSM community. Database protection always seemed to be a euro-centric ideal and not one that the new licence analysis seemed to respond to adequately. However, I believe that the ODbL

Re: [talk-au] Database licence

2009-12-05 Thread James Livingston
On 05/12/2009, at 11:30 PM, Grant Slater wrote: For clarity... the OSM Foundation is not some evil group... The OSMF is open, anyone from the community can join. The OSMF Board is democratically elected from the OSMF membership. If anyone who isn't a OSMF member wants to read the discussion,

[OSM-talk] Greenways

2009-12-04 Thread James Stewart
seems to come up with a single cycle/ pedestrain path called 'The Greenway'. Best not use that tag unless it used a bit more widely. James Message: 2 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 20:44:45 - From: Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Good routing vs legal routing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 6:12 AM, Mike Collinson wrote: We have now fully updated the OSM Contributors agreement section of the main proposal. I hope that meets concerns about clarity of the change-over process. http://www.osmfoundation.org/images/3/3c/License_Proposal.pdf A while ago on the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 10:19 PM, Mike Collinson wrote: - Whether friendly or unfriendly, they never have any obligation to merge in their data improvements into our database. - However, you or I can. Does that make sense? I completely agree that they don't have to do anything towards merging

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 10:19 PM, Ed Avis wrote: That was my interpretation too. It appears to me that if some well-meaning body released a set of data under the ODbL (which presumably we recommend as an appropriate licence for geodata) then the OSM project would not be able to use it. In other

Re: [talk-au] replacement bicycle mounted gps

2009-11-18 Thread James Andrewartha
calls :) So who has a whizbang phone which they would recommend?? The most open phone is the Nokia N900 - root is easy to get, and it's most similar to a desktop Linux. Unfortunately Nokia decided not to sell it in Australia, so you'd have to import it from the US. James Andrewartha

Re: [Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-16 Thread James Ewen
of default value when data source is Orthoimage. Yes, that would make sense, since it is impossible to know for a fact the actual width of a roadway from an aerial image. That's where the feet on the pavement are important. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca

[Talk-ca] Modifying GeoBase Ways.

2009-11-15 Thread James Ewen
would require both vehicles to nearly stop, and pass each other with two wheels in the ditch each. I would call this at best 1.5 lanes wide. So, what to do, what to do??? James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http

[Talk-ca] why python

2009-11-12 Thread James A. Treacy
. -- James TreacyMany hands make light work tre...@debian.org ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] canvec-to-osm 0.9.6 now available

2009-11-07 Thread James A. Treacy
exceptional cases, for example features that cross an entire tile, but there are ways of dealing with them if this is ever implemented. -- James Treacy tre...@debian.org ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-11-04 Thread James Andrewartha
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, John Smith wrote: 2009/11/4 James Andrewartha tr...@tartarus.uwa.edu.au: I couldn't say, but they might do it once for free (vs the regular updates planned for cities). For example, the WA coverage currently goes from Do you work for this company, or have a contact

Re: [Talk-ca] Ftp site for Canvec product (.osm)

2009-10-30 Thread James Ewen
using it. That was the reason I asked... I figured that the space would be limited to data related to NRCan. Best to know that up front so that people know what data can be stored on the site. Thanks again for making the space available. James VE6SRV

[Talk-ca] GeoBase to OSM converted files

2009-10-30 Thread James Ewen
, and copy attributes over. Only tiles that contained road matcher exclusions would need to be available. If the tile was processed without any road matcher exclusions (no OSM data existed before the import), there's no need for anyone to compare, as imported will match GeoBase exactly. James VE6SRV

Re: [Talk-ca] Users in Ottawa and Geobase

2009-10-29 Thread James Ewen
will lose thousands of hours worth of work that is not included in the GeoBase dataset. Wiping out just the road network and importing GeoBase still leaves as much work to realign all the rest of the data that was associated with, or based upon the OSM road network. James VE6SRV

Re: [Talk-ca] Users in Ottawa and Geobase

2009-10-29 Thread James A. Treacy
comes along, every tool we have is flawed. Even then, satellite images can't see through trees or clouds. -- James Treacy tre...@debian.org ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Number of Mappers in Ottawa mail got munched

2009-10-29 Thread James Ewen
-111.977,-43.489,166.408,68.185 (big) Sure looks like people are actively working in the area... James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Number of Mappers in Ottawa mail got munched

2009-10-29 Thread James Ewen
in the world is a product that is produced by someone else, and simply purchased when needed. Sometimes you have to roll up your sleeves and help yourself. I found a footpath that you added to the map, so I know that you know how this works. James VE6SRV ___ Talk

Re: [Talk-ca] Users in Ottawa and Geobase

2009-10-28 Thread James A. Treacy
a road to be awful and causes a lot of roads to be dropped, I think it is fair to let a mapper fix things in the easiest way. -- James Treacy tre...@debian.org ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Users in Ottawa and Geobase

2009-10-28 Thread James Ewen
=53.4480357170105lon=-113.482160568237zoom=15 James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Users in Ottawa and Geobase

2009-10-27 Thread James A. Treacy
cleaning up the map (a big one is tying into the surrounding roads). - contact as many of the original mappers as you can find - send mail to talk-ca giving reasons for wanting to do a replacement - wait a week - finally, send a mail to talk-ca stating your intention to start -- James Treacy tre

Re: [Talk-ca] Correcting Geobase_import_2009

2009-10-25 Thread James Ewen
as they see fit. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Correcting Geobase_import_2009

2009-10-25 Thread James Ewen
, that would be great. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] Ftp site for Canvec product (.osm)

2009-10-22 Thread James A. Treacy
of different places. Some of the places are on sites that remove files after a period of time (or inactivity) so a number of the files are no longer available. Would you also be able to store these files on your site? -- James Treacy tre...@debian.org

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec-to-osm v0.9.5 now cooler than before

2009-10-21 Thread James A. Treacy
. -- James Treacy tre...@debian.org ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

[Talk-ca] How to check why an area is not being rendered

2009-10-21 Thread James A. Treacy
=44.5728lon=-80.9636zoom=13layers=B000FTF -- James Treacy tre...@debian.org ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Instead of voting

2009-10-12 Thread James Livingston
On 11/10/2009, at 12:08 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: This proposal includes the deletion of all voting-related stuff including the casted votes of the past. I'd say that this helps prove the point that different people reading different things into what pages on the wiki say. The proposal

[Talk-ca] Editing GeoBase data

2009-10-11 Thread James Ewen
and 3 above. Maybe I keep part of the existing way where it describes the way properly, or modifying it so it does, delete the rest of it, and then treat it all like new construction. James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Talk-ca] Editing GeoBase data

2009-10-11 Thread James Ewen
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe (James) it doesn't answer your question, but should help the imports@ list understand more what's going on, as well as whoever is following along on the talk-ca list :) You didn't even come close

Re: [Talk-ca] municipal government GIS data

2009-10-07 Thread James A. Treacy
is that school board property is not displayed distinctly. I hope there is a source for this as it would be very useful. -- James Treacy tre...@debian.org ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 05/10/2009, at 7:54 PM, David Earl wrote: * Three new primitives, tagkey for describing the k part of tags, tagvalue for the v part of tags and tagdescription separated off to allow for multiple descriptions in multiple languages without having to download all the data for languages

Re: [OSM-talk] Landuse areas etc. abutting highways

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 05/10/2009, at 8:18 PM, Marc Schütz wrote: IMO (a) is the correct way to do this. ... For a road, we can either choose to map it as a linear object (this is the common case), or we can map its geometry more exactly by using an area. In both cases, however, the object in our database

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging schema

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 06/10/2009, at 10:58 PM, David Earl wrote: On 06/10/2009 13:35, James Livingston wrote: I can see things getting ickier than they are now if you can just go around adding new shop= values, without having some prior discussion to what it means. If I saw a suggested option

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL virality questions

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 06/10/2009, at 11:30 PM, Matt Amos wrote: so far, all the responses seem to indicate that everyone thinks linking to OSM data by ID is OK. what about Andy's idea, though? is it OK to take a location, name and possibly an ID as well to perform fuzzy linking? my view is that all the

Re: [talk-au] natural=land v natural=coastline

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 06/10/2009, at 2:12 PM, John Smith wrote: Lake Eyre etc is so big they used natural=coastline... Although this comes back to the question the other day, where does the coastline start/end, legally speaking it cuts across bays, it doesn't go round them or up rivers... I looked into this a

Re: [talk-au] Why not to change coastlines automatically to ABS data.

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 05/10/2009, at 3:59 PM, Ross Scanlon wrote: So PLEASE look at the sat photos and already entered data before you go removing the coastline and using the ABS data automatically as the coastline. As a +1 comment, I'd also like to note that in many places the ABS follow the

Re: [talk-au] natural=land v natural=coastline

2009-10-06 Thread James Livingston
On 06/10/2009, at 11:37 PM, Jim Croft wrote: Of course, this won't work for mariners and lawyers... :) No, but there are (proposed) tags to indicate the low-tide mark, and the OpenSeaMap guys might have something for other various maritime boundaries. My favourite estuary is the Fly River

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 4:25 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: Wikipedia has much less need for consistency than we do (e.g. it doesn't matter if one article is in American English and another in Australian English; articles are not machine-parsed) and yet they have all sorts of mechanisms for

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 5:02 PM, John Smith wrote: This was not only highly frustrating but demoralising and as a result I've not been bothered tagging any more school zones because I don't see a point until there is a One True Way to tag school zones. Just do what I and a lot of other people have

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 5:02 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values How precisely is that going to end the debate? a) Voting isn't the way to do this. It either needs consensus or a dictator. b) Lots of people don't care

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 5:02 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Time to end this debate http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boolean_values Oh, and this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/VotingOnTheWikiIsStupid ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - boolean values

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 5:54 PM, Konrad Skeri wrote: Consensus will never happen and we don't have a dictator, which makes voting the option left. I actually agree that we just need to pick one, and since yes seems to be the most commonly used one, that should be it. However, I just don't see how

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/10/2009, at 4:29 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: Because sometimes, occasionally, a benevolent dictator (a phrase used by lots of open source projects) has to break deadlock and dictate. Things are working well when that power is used very, very rarely, but it needs to exist. Mozilla

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