Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 70, Issue 76

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Harris
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Re: [OSM-talk] highway=byway

2010-04-22 Thread Mike Harris
on=byway instead of highway=byway" sounds like the endless discussion about "highway=path+designation=*" vs "highway=footway/cycleway/bridleway". Pieren -- */Mike Harris/* ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for walkers / hikers - getting it going!

2010-03-16 Thread Mike Harris
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Re: [OSM-talk] Thoughts on OSM design, and looking forward - and back

2010-02-25 Thread Mike Harris
do we have the technical and financial resources to support that? Running a large end user site requires a lot of resources and we might end up needing a "yearly donation drive" like Wikipedia. Do we really want to get into that (already)? -- */Mike Harris/* ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 66, Issue 47

2010-02-21 Thread Mike Harris
e, low overhead ... and free. The link page also gives the author's ideas of alternatives that he considers better - so plenty to research from there. Have fun 8-) 8-) Mike Harris On 21/02/2010 13:28, talk-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send talk mailing list submissions to talk@o

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?

2010-01-28 Thread Mike Harris
GPS Utility This is multifunctional - conversions, editing and more - the freeware version is a bit limited but the shareware version is imho well worth the small fee. http://www.gpsu.co.uk/index.html Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Craig Wallace [mailto:craig...@fastm

Re: [OSM-talk] Public notary (Map feature POI proposal)

2010-01-06 Thread Mike Harris
to entry into the United States of America". Those were the days when a "body scan" on entry to the USA was a really serious matter (;>) ... Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: David Paleino [mailto:da...@debian.org] > Sent: 05 January 2010 19:48 > To: t

Re: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files?

2009-12-30 Thread Mike Harris
://www.gpsu.co.uk/index.html Mike Harris _ From: Steve Bennett [mailto:stevag...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 December 2009 21:26 To: Open Street Map mailing list Subject: [OSM-talk] How to manage GPX files? What software do people use to manage their GPX files? Mainly I want to be able to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] tagging Greenways

2009-12-21 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Paul Johnson > Sent: 20 December 2009 22:31 > To: tagg...@openstreetmap.org > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Taggin

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] tagging Greenways

2009-12-19 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:tagging-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Greg Troxel > Sent: 18 December 2009 13:48 > To: Paul Johnson > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; tagg...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re

Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Harris
Kylla .. tosi on ... I wouldn't normally put in a culvert anyway ... it was just an example ... The only trouble with letting the way and the waterway cross with no layers is that some of the validators object ... not sure how important that is ... Mike Harris > -Original

Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Harris
Fair points ... If it really doesn't matter to routers and other mappers and doesn't interfere with anything else then I am happy to accept that there is no fully logical solution and that it shouldn't matter to me either! Mike Harris > -Original Message- >

Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Steve Bennett [mailto:stevag...@gmail.com] > Sent: 15 December 2009 02:43 > To: Anthony > Cc: openstreetmap > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Anthony wrote: > > In a par

Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Steve Bennett [mailto:stevag...@gmail.com] > Sent: 15 December 2009 03:38 > To: John Smith > Cc: openstreetmap > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:36 PM, John Smith > wrote: > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Harris
+1 Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] > Sent: 15 December 2009 03:36 > To: Steve Bennett > Cc: openstreetmap > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches > > 2009/12/15 Steve Bennett : > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Ditches

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Harris
iver is at the same general level even though it flows between banks and the surface of the water is actually below the land (most of the time anyway - not last month!). Mike Harris _ From: Anthony [mailto:o...@inbox.org] Sent: 15 December 2009 02:31 To: openstreetmap Subject:

Re: [OSM-talk] Vegetation page

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Harris
national differences where 'locals' may wish to add data to the database that might be of use for 'local' purposes ... Or where the use of the same word in one language (e.g. in British English) may have different meanings in different locations in order to assist with disambiguation. Mi

Re: [OSM-talk] Good routing vs legal routing (was: Path vs footwayvs cycleway vs...)

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Harris
d bicycles - usually in urban / suburban /near urban areas. Sometimes they coincide with a public right of way but they are usually additional. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Sam Vekemans [mailto:acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com] > Sent: 02 December 2009 18:41 > To: St

Re: [OSM-talk] Vegetation page

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Harris
is a community-drive project I am so sorry but 'we cannot take you to our leader'. My wife is only foreign when she is in England ... And I am only foreign when I am not ... Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Peter Körner [mailto:osm-li...@mazdermind.de] >

Re: [OSM-talk] Vegetation page

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Harris
Excellent start to a useful bit of disambiguation. Thanks. Mike Harris _ From: Steve Bennett [mailto:stevag...@gmail.com] Sent: 02 December 2009 01:10 To: Open Street Map mailing list Subject: [OSM-talk] Vegetation page I think I might write up some cross-cutting wiki pages like

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-12-01 Thread Mike Harris
"hay production". By definition a meadow is not used for grazing (or there wouldn't be any hay) and only informally for recreation (lovers in the grass). Note the same wikipedia link defines 'pasture' where the land use is grazing. Mike Harris > -Original Message

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-12-01 Thread Mike Harris
Broadly agree but why is 'meadow' not a land use? I believe that it is - in rural England at least ... See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meadow Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Anthony [mailto:o...@inbox.org] > Sent: 01 December 2009 00:12 > To:

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-12-01 Thread Mike Harris
much the case that it applies quite often in my area even to named long-distance routes and to omit the segments would create unnecessary and misleading breaks in the continuity of a 'route' relationship. Just my thoughts for what they are worth .. Mike Harris > -Original Me

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-30 Thread Mike Harris
re general vein the use of the designated= tag has 'solved' a number of related problems - at least for me. But long live chaos, anarchy and OSM ... (:>) Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Cartinus [mailto:carti...@xs4all.nl] > Sent: 30 November 2009 00:

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Mike Harris
Btw - no need for highway=grass, why not use highway=path (or =footway, see previous message) + surface=grass (which seems well-established). Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Anthony [mailto:o...@inbox.org] > Sent: 29 November 2009 04:30 > To: Roy Wallac

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Mike Harris
ational/regional cycleway - adding names and reference numbers to the relation. Again, I stress, this is just what I do - in the interest of transparency - and not in any way to suggest that it is better or worse than what Lesi or anyone else has adopted. This is OSM - the ultimate popular de

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-29 Thread Mike Harris
Good advice ... +1! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] > Sent: 28 November 2009 19:43 > To: Steve Bennett > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; tagg...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs..

Re: [OSM-talk] Path vs footway vs cycleway vs...

2009-11-28 Thread Mike Harris
7; and another a 'cycleway' - something like foot=yes, bicycle=permissive is at least fairly explicit. Before I get flamed - these are only my ideas and others may well differ - but I've tried to keep it general as to practice and geography ... Give my regards to Melbourne

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for Seasonal/Dry Streams

2009-11-26 Thread Mike Harris
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_bodies Mike Harris _ From: Dan Homerick [mailto:danhomer...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 November 2009 23:16 To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for Seasonal/Dry Streams On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Scott

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridge on Hiking Trails

2009-11-26 Thread Mike Harris
e explicit layering. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] > Sent: 25 November 2009 21:58 > Cc: OSM Talk > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bridge on Hiking Trails > > Shaun McDonald wrote: > > on the way use highway=footway; bri

Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of barrier = stile

2009-11-26 Thread Mike Harris
!). The problems with placing the barrier on the vehicular highway or at the intersection node are clear! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Lennard [mailto:l...@xs4all.nl] > Sent: 15 November 2009 16:30 > To: Talk OSM > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] positioning of

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] alley - for tree-lined roads?

2009-11-03 Thread Mike Harris
my feeling is that in French the word "allée" can be translated - according to context - into the British English "avenue", the American English "avenue" or the English "alley"! Not quite sure about Chinese or Arabic (:>) I don't especially like &

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-02 Thread Mike Harris
Why not (a) convert the GPX layer to a data layer and then (b) use the simplify way tool from the JOSM plugin? Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] > Sent: 02 November 2009 06:57 > To: Shalabh > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk] NPE Maps Key

2009-10-11 Thread Mike Harris
Power line with pylons. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] > Sent: 11 October 2009 14:57 > To: OSM Talk > Subject: [OSM-talk] NPE Maps Key > > Hi > > I suppose this FAO of Richard F. > > Do you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Landuse areas etc. abutting highways

2009-10-06 Thread Mike Harris
Why not - it seems as good as any other idea - of course someone is going to object (;>) but ... Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: dipie...@gmail.com [mailto:dipie...@gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Anthony > Sent: 06 October 2009 19:03 > To: Mike Harris > Cc: t

Re: [OSM-talk] Landuse areas etc. abutting highways

2009-10-06 Thread Mike Harris
ownership of many of the green lanes - and to the best of my knowledge he is still the landowner of these between the fences/hedges that separate them on either side from the adjacent farmland.] This suggests that the area tag might even be landuse=highway! Mike Harris _ From:

Re: [OSM-talk] Landuse areas etc. abutting highways

2009-10-06 Thread Mike Harris
ide. Like everything else in OSM, it all a question of judgement! I asked the original question from a neutral standpoint but - in the light of the responses have now developed a preference for option (b) - with exceptions. Of course, nothing is ever final ... Mike Harris > -Ori

Re: [OSM-talk] Landuse areas etc. abutting highways

2009-10-06 Thread Mike Harris
cross large numbers of ways. It is a minor irritant and I didn't want to do the work - or mess with other people's mapping - without a bit of a 'reality check' with more experienced folk in the community. Thanks again Mike Harris > -Original Message- >

[OSM-talk] Landuse areas etc. abutting highways

2009-10-04 Thread Mike Harris
as it avoids superimposed ways and potential editing errors? Views? Mike Harris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] shop=groceries?

2009-10-03 Thread Mike Harris
generalised convenience stores, they are still very much present in the more cultured countries of the European continent (e.g. France - épicerie, and I'm glad to learn that CZ is another of them!). Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: MP [mailto:singular...@gmail.com]

Re: [OSM-talk] Please

2009-10-02 Thread Mike Harris
I hesitated before saying thank you - given the topic of the thread - but this one is worth a big thank you message! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: malenki [mailto:o...@malenki.ch] > Sent: 01 October 2009 18:01 > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [O

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-30 Thread Mike Harris
request to public inspection and are authoritative - whatever the landowner may say! (again - even if nuts!). Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) > [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com] > Sent: 30 September 2009 09:52 > To: '

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - landuse=orchard

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Harris
es of: Landuse=agricultural vs. Landuse=grassland And for the former: Agriculture=arable / pastoral / orchard / plantation Maybe a fairly limited number of tags would cope - or am I being too limited geographically to be useful? Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: P

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Harris
... Are you sure about the spelling of "... fork off American ..." - doesn't sound quite right but perhaps it's just my mid-Atlantic accent? Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] > Sent: 29 September 2009

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-28 Thread Mike Harris
... Except from definitive maps based on OS mapping that is more than 50 years old (see my earlier message) - and I suspect that quite a lot of it is. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] > Sent: 28 September 2009 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
Still the Council's budget though - so don't hold your breath - my lot can only afford a couple of cheap units although they are trying to get the funds for a top-of-the-range ±1m jobby! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
this case footpaths 6 and 26 in the parish of Dullingham). The DS is likely to be decades old - a DMMO is current. The second issue is that the text uses OS GRs throughout - so what is the status as a derivative work? Mike Harris _ From: Barnett, Phillip [mailto:phillip.barn

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
th current resources, you are unlikely to see more than a few dozen (at most) per year per county. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Jon Stockill [mailto:li...@stockill.net] > Sent: 25 September 2009 15:54 > To: OSM Talk > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyrig

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
still producing definitive maps - just amending them from time to time in respect of a particular path. Mike Harris _ From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] Sent: 25 September 2009 15:16 Cc: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright? Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
have been wasting my time walking a 1000 km a year along rights of way with a GPS in my sticky little hand! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] > Sent: 25 September 2009 14:30 > To: Tom Hughes > Cc: OSM Talk > Subje

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
ts of way. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com] > Sent: 25 September 2009 13:29 > To: Dave F. > Cc: OSM Talk > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright? > > 2009/9/25 Dave F. : > > > Is this a breac

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
s the phrase "data of the paths" means their status, numbering etc. but not their position or shape on the ground then we should be in the clear according to my contacts (some of whom are HA lawyers). Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasa

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
ith enough exaggeration to indicate which side of the hedge is going to work! (Straight ahead is not much use if it points along the hedge!). Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] > Sent: 25 September 2009 10:43 >

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-24 Thread Mike Harris
ey do not agree with OS mapping! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] > Sent: 24 September 2009 13:18 > To: Nick Whitelegg > Cc: Mike Harris; talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries > > I belie

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-24 Thread Mike Harris
ections of fence/hedge boundary to explain an obstruction or similar - as well as 'designation' (legal status) and 'ref' (path number) where known. I also add key farmhouses where the name is visible and they are useful for orientation. Mike Harris > -Original Me

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-23 Thread Mike Harris
other than open-source aerial/satellite photography. OS one-inch (or 1:50k) mapping does not show field boundaries. But is anyone working on out-of-copyright 1:25k (or larger scale) mapping? Mike Harris _ From: Jack Stringer [mailto:jack.ix...@googlemail.com] Sent: 23 September

Re: [OSM-talk] NaPTAN bus stop import

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Harris
been done stationary at the stop. Kind regards and thanks for the good information Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] > Sent: 21 September 2009 10:30 > To: 'Mike Harris'; talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: RE: [OSM-tal

[OSM-talk] NaPTAN bus stop import

2009-09-21 Thread Mike Harris
ho have facilitated this import. Mike Harris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Should Bridges be independent of their ways?

2009-09-19 Thread Mike Harris
Claudius - I think you may have answered the question I just asked - thanks - I must admit that I hadn't seen this proposal before. Once again, relations prove powerful! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Claudius [mailto:claudiu...@gmx.de] > Sent: 19 September 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Should Bridges be independent of their ways?

2009-09-19 Thread Mike Harris
creating two consecutive >bridges. This is basically only a rendering problem but I wonder whether >anyone has any thoughts? Mike Harris _ From: d f [mailto:fac63te...@yahoo.com] Sent: 19 September 2009 13:30 To: Talk OSM Subject: [OSM-talk] Should Bridges be independent of t

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-17 Thread Mike Harris
Agree that service roads are not usually public highways - although they may have public access (e.g. car parking aisles). Tracks may be public highways - e.g. bridleway, restricted byway etc. - but are not usually confused with streets. Mike Harris > -Original Message- >

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-17 Thread Mike Harris
Yes - I did! - mea maxima culpa! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Iván Sánchez Ortega [mailto:i...@sanchezortega.es] > Sent: 16 September 2009 21:09 > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Cc: Mike Harris > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Harris
ogle Earth or similar satellite imagery and see whether you would agree - bearing in mind that I live only about 25 km from there! (;>) Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Valent Turkovic [mailto:valent.turko...@gmail.com] > Sent: 16 September 2009 19:56 > T

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Harris
mber how to tag - I have never found one round here and the wiki is nearly dead at the moment so I can't check!), or (c) a track - bearing in mind that a track with tracktype=grade1 could also be surface=paved. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Valent Turkovic [mailto

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Harris
+1 (short answer for long debate?) Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] > Sent: 16 September 2009 14:34 > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways? > > Hi, >

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways?

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Harris
iddle of voting on a more general aspect). Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Valent Turkovic [mailto:valent.turko...@gmail.com] > Sent: 16 September 2009 13:26 > To: Talk Openstreetmap > Subject: [OSM-talk] highway=residential for rural ways? > > Hi, > should h

Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal

2009-09-04 Thread Mike Harris
ience (or not!) much the same. Would be good to have this on the wiki. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Peter Miller [mailto:peter.mil...@itoworld.com] > Sent: 03 September 2009 22:58 > To: Someoneelse > Cc: OSM Talk > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Pos

Re: [OSM-talk] Path in JOSM preset and motorcar=yes/designated

2009-08-31 Thread Mike Harris
Support addition of motor_vehicle to presets for highway=track ... This would usefully match a 'restricted byway' in England - as opposed to a 'byway open to all traffic' (BOAT). Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Craig Wallace [mailto:craig...@fastm

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Harris
... Because in England locks almost always have unique (and often fascinating and historic) names that are nothing to do with the canal name. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: wynnd...@lavabit.com [mailto:wynnd...@lavabit.com] > Sent: 28 August 2009 13:07 &

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Harris
Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Peteris Krisjanis [mailto:pec...@gmail.com] > Sent: 28 August 2009 12:44 > To: Alex Mauer > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism > > I second option that highway tag isn'

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Harris
t one - would create a huge number of new relations (a lot of bridges in the world!) - is this a problem anywhere in the software chain? Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Gervase Markham [mailto:gerv-gm...@gerv.net] > Sent: 28 August 2009 09:41 > To: talk@openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] How to get a notification email for a change on a watched wiki page

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Harris
Thanks Lulu-Ann - I've been a lazy boy, haven't I! (:<) Tsk, tsk. Done now. > -Original Message- > From: lulu-...@gmx.de [mailto:lulu-...@gmx.de] > Sent: 27 August 2009 14:35 > To: Mike Harris; frede...@remote.org > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject:

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Harris
middle of the bridge and then tagging this with the canal bridge information and reserving the name and ref tags for the highway segment. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Jack Stringer [mailto:jack.ix...@googlemail.com] > Sent: 27 August 2009 12:14 > To: Talk Openstreetm

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Harris
Oxford can't be unique ... Surely it is common worldwide to assume that the decisions of administrators and bureaucrats are just a load of bollards ... Sorry about any spelling mistakes in the preceding ... Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Richard Fairhurst [

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-27 Thread Mike Harris
I agree with Aun .. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) [mailto:skipp...@gimnechiske.org] > Sent: 27 August 2009 01:05 > To: Frederik Ramm > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; lulu-...@gmx.de > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandali

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Harris
descriptor of the quality of the opinion - like 'humble abode' - as much as the attitude of the writer! - so there's no need to take this all too seriously (;>)) ... let's stay civil and objective! Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Frederic Ramm [mailto:fre

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-25 Thread Mike Harris
tects' convention. So I have to conclude that - at present at least - the assumption of an implicit sense is risky. Mike Harris > -Original Message- > From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] > Sent: 25 August 2009 12:08 > To: Roy Wallace > Cc: tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Escalators and Travalators

2009-08-23 Thread Mike Harris
Could I ask the architects whether their down-to-up convention applies to escalators as well (cf. current discussion on 'steps') - given that they are moving steps - or only to up-escalators (;>) ... Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Peter Childs [mailto:pchi...@bcs.o

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-23 Thread Mike Harris
rs - cyclists, wheelchairs, etc. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 August 2009 13:22 To: Mike Harris Cc: talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down 2009/8/22 Mike Harris : > I'm with Ma

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-22 Thread Mike Harris
I'm with Martin on this one - up/down is better than nothing and is useful in its own right on steps for example. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Morten Kjeldgaard [mailto:m...@bioxray.au.dk] Sent: 21 August 2009 17:11 To: m...@koppenhoefer.com Cc: talk Subject: Re: [OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Selecting cycleways

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Harris
In England and Wales, byways that are either "Restricted Byways" (RBs) or "Byways Open to all Traffic" (BOATs) may be used by cyclists as of right - i.e. not merely 'available'. Mike Harris _ From: Richard Mann [mailto:richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail

Re: [OSM-talk] FW: [OpenStreetMap] Deine E-Mail-Adres se bestätigen

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Harris
Hi Kein Sprachproblem! Nur dass ich wüsste nicht, wie ich könnte sein Problem erlösen! Mit freundlichen Grüßen -Original Message- From: Jonas Krückel [mailto:o...@jonas-krueckel.de] Sent: 21 August 2009 09:06 To: Mike Harris Cc: ; ; andr...@an3as.eu Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] FW

[OSM-talk] FW: [OpenStreetMap] Deine E-Mail- Adresse bestätigen

2009-08-21 Thread Mike Harris
Can someone out there help Andreas with his issue re confirmation of his user account (see messages in German below)? He has sent this directly to me and I don't know how best to help him. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Andreas Tille [mailto:andr...@an3as.eu] Sent: 21 A

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-be] Mijn icoontjes?

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Harris
Interesting discussion - I see the Dutch documentation has the same sort of limitations as the English! ... But shouldn't this be in the Dutch discussion group?! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Ben Laenen [mailto:benlae...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 August 2009 11:28 To: filip wo

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Harris
consolidation attempt. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: ekkeh...@gmx.de [mailto:ekkeh...@gmx.de] Sent: 19 August 2009 16:22 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway Hi! The discussion has died down again. Much was said and I even had the impression

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-20 Thread Mike Harris
UK - usually black on white. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Erik Johansson [mailto:e...@kth.se] Sent: 19 August 2009 12:26 To: Tijs Zwinkels Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Tijs Zwinkels wrote: > &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-17 Thread Mike Harris
). How to resolve? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] Sent: 17 August 2009 09:14 To: Roy Wallace Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway >>> Whitelegg wrote: >>>>

Re: [OSM-talk] [english 95%] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Harris
mes to represent language; a subset of names to represent skills needed in the group; Step 5: add subsets to form group. OK - I am not going to defend this - treat it as a thought process starter! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Lambert Carsten [mailto:lhc@solcon.nl] Sent: 16 A

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Harris
e often very out of date and quite often erroneous. Happy mapping anyway! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Roy Wallace [mailto:waldo000...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 August 2009 23:37 To: Mike Harris Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Nick Whitelegg Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path

Re: [OSM-talk] [english 96%] RE: [english 95%] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Harris
ssage- From: k...@vielevisels [mailto:k...@vielevisels.de] Sent: 15 August 2009 15:01 To: Mike Harris; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [english 96%] RE: [OSM-talk] [english 95%] A process for rethinking map features Hi, > Kai - this makes very good sense. But how do we set up a worki

[OSM-talk] designation vs designated

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Harris
use the value 'designated' for the key access=. My error is entirely my own and my only excuse is that I have been away for three weeks and done no editing until the last few days). However, it does perhaps highlight a problem in having a value and a key with such similar names a

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Harris
1(b) applies then I would say designation=public_footpath, foot=yes, bicycle=yes. Mike Harris _ From: Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] Sent: 15 August 2009 13:01 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway So a public footpath which the

Re: [OSM-talk] [english 95%] A process for rethinking map features

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Harris
Kai - this makes very good sense. But how do we set up a working group? And would it - and its findings/recommendations - be acceptable to the majority of the OSM community? I am increasingly convinced that the discussion group is not going to cut it when the subject is so complex. Mike Harris

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Harris
to any byelaws." Nevertheless I would myself still tag as foot/horse/bicycle all 'designated' as this is at least the default and the 'give way' rule does not remove the cyclists' right (but how I wish that all bikes had bells and all cyclists USED them!). Mike

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-designated cycleway vs. designation info missing

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Harris
l/designated overlap can be minimised? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Roy Wallace [mailto:waldo000...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 August 2009 00:12 To: Mike Harris Cc: Jukka Rahkonen; talk@openstreetmap.org; m...@koppenhoefer.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Non-designated cycleway vs. designation

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Harris
sport." UNQUOTE There is apparently, perhaps unsurprisingly, some ambiguity in the wiki. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Roy Wallace [mailto:waldo000...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 August 2009 23:57 To: Nick Whitelegg Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path v

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs

2009-08-15 Thread Mike Harris
+1 Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Martin Norbäck [mailto:mar...@norpan.org] Sent: 14 August 2009 15:50 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs When I have seen unmapped roads, I've put a small stub and on the end node of that stub I've

Re: [OSM-talk] Non-designated cycleway vs. designation info missing

2009-08-14 Thread Mike Harris
Tend to agree in part - I think the 'official' bit is actually redundant? Would this improve the page? Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 August 2009 12:54 To: Mike Harris Cc: Jukka Rahkonen; talk@openstreetmap.o

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Proliferation of path vs. footway]

2009-08-14 Thread Mike Harris
glish because it is potentially ambiguous. I would tend to translate 'designated' as 'bestimmt' or 'bezeichnet' but am unsure which is better! (it doesn't imply anything about signage per se - although there are certain legal obligations on the authority to erect sig

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-14 Thread Mike Harris
track, highway=path ... I would currently use the first of these as being the most specific (and, yes, it is documented on the wiki) - but I appreciate that there are ambiguities that are being discussed in the thread. Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Roy Wallace [mailto:waldo000...@gmai

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