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On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:36 PM, hbogner wrote:
> Our member noticed that 17 days ago user
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/fredi_alf/
> changed Cratian - Slovenian disputed border.
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/45.4686/13.6100
>
> Should we do a revert and contact user who changed i
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 03:33:03PM +0100, colliar wrote:
> On 22.03.2014 11:01, Richard Z. wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 05:05:21PM -0500, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >> On Mar 21, 2014 4:59 PM, "Richard Z." wrote:
> >>
> >>> Example of a problem t
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 05:05:21PM -0500, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mar 21, 2014 4:59 PM, "Richard Z." wrote:
>
> > Example of a problem this should catch: I have seen cases where someone
> > wanted to tag a simple bridge with layer and added the layer to the wrong
>
will
not detect it and in most cases the renderer will work around this bug very
well so it is only discovered by accident in most cases.
This is not limited to layer, I have seen the same problem with culverts and
bridges.
What kind of underground areas are that in Kansas, do you have a pointer?
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 07:17:26AM +0100, Stefan Keller wrote:
> Hi Richard, hi Simon
>
> At 2014-03-14 16:19 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole wrote
> > > At 14.03.2014 16:06, schrieb Richard Z.:
> > > is there really no way to avoid those horrible captchas whenever I add
> &
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 05:12:08PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 15.03.2014 14:44, Richard Z. wrote:
> > I think it would be good to agree on something...
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:layer#Maximum_recommended_segment_length_of_ways_tagged_wi
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 06:12:10PM +, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
> On 15/03/2014, Fernando Trebien wrote:
> > I now agree that the "layer" tag should be used as locally as
> > possible, so I think Richard had good intentions when proposing this.
> > At the same t
Hi,
I think it would be good to agree on something...
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:layer#Maximum_recommended_segment_length_of_ways_tagged_with_layer
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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 03:43:38PM +, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 14/03/14 15:06, Richard Z. wrote:
>
> >How about an OSM quiz instead of captchas?
>
> You're offering to write one I take it?
will think about one. In the short term, there are open tickets
which shou
need on average 4 captcha-reloads before I get a captcha picture which
I can recognise with good enough confidence to even try it.
How about an OSM quiz instead of captchas?
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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Alex Barth wrote:
> Hello everyone -
>
> I've been sitting on writing about the detrimental effects of
> OpenStreetMap's share-alike license (ODbL) for a while and finally decided
> to, um, share. I've been listening long to many OpenStreetMappers I respect
> a to
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 09:06:41PM -0400, Russ Nelson wrote:
> Pieren writes:
> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Frank Little wrote:
> > > Richard Z wrote
> >
> > > As mapped, the waterway=stream (Way #138911739) runs underground
> (layer=-1),
> &
am not worried about this one case but how it slipped through all
checks and how many other there might be.
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s needed to display a lake in a park then you have some
other problem. Show us an example.
natural=water + layer has no meaning unless in combination with tunnel,
bridge or similar.
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Has anyone looked at this before?
Are those odbl=clean tags supposed to stay there forever?
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On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 10:26:59PM +, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> On 9 March 2014 10:30, Richard Z. wrote:
> > for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules
> > as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly
> > uncont
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 02:51:23PM +, Dave F. wrote:
> On 09/03/2014 12:21, Richard Z. wrote:
> >In practice this rule is broken more often than you would think: Hamburg is
> >full
> >of waterways connected with roads on bridges through a tag obstacle. France
>
ove ground and thus a vertical ordering
is defined. Similar situation with dams.
For more general cases like 2 bridges at different levels connected
through a pylon either "level" could be used or something more
sophisticated like a relation.
Richard
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 10:26:59PM +, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> On 9 March 2014 10:30, Richard Z. wrote:
> > for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules
> > as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly
> > uncont
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 04:55:51PM +0100, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> On 09.03.2014 14:18, Richard Z. wrote:
> > Pylons must share a node with the waterway bellow
> > in my opinion. They are a pretty relevant part of it.
>
> Pylons will often be somewhere within the riverbank ar
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 02:00:36PM +0100, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> On 09.03.2014 13:21, Richard Z. wrote:
> > the same conceptual problem exists with pylons where they are shared by two
> > bridges
> > or aerial tramways. Actualy every pylon breaks the rule by defin
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 12:34:31PM +, Dave F. wrote:
> On 09/03/2014 12:24, Richard Z. wrote:
> >
> >it says "point", not "node" the difference probably needs to be emphasized
> >very strongly. There is a difference between mathematicaly precise
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 12:34:31PM +, Dave F. wrote:
> On 09/03/2014 12:24, Richard Z. wrote:
> >
> >it says "point", not "node" the difference probably needs to be emphasized
> >very strongly. There is a difference between mathematicaly precise
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:35:20AM +, Dave F. wrote:
> On 09/03/2014 10:30, Richard Z. wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules
> >as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly
>
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:35:20AM +, Dave F. wrote:
> On 09/03/2014 10:30, Richard Z. wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules
> >as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly
>
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 01:05:18PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>
>
> > Am 09/mar/2014 um 12:43 schrieb "Richard Z." :
> >
> > It is broken by definition in at least one case: waterways ar supposed to
> > share a node with the dam they are crossi
On Sun, Mar 09, 2014 at 11:47:32AM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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>
> > Am 09/mar/2014 um 11:30 schrieb "Richard Z." :
> >
> > * the vertical ordering established by the layer values is valid exactly
> > only
> > in the point where the way
to have a page like waterway with an overview
of related pages.. but may be still confusing at the same time.
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es, I am very much in favor of avoiding as much of the duplication
as possible.
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ly" so we can add
some text that it may be appropriate in very complex situations.
I think this is somewhat different from oneway=no and similar.. which
are a bit of a problem on its own. Not long ago I found a 3 mile long
desert track somewhere on the Arab Peninsula w
there are
exceptions which currently I do not know hot to tag better but those are rare.
* in some cases "level" may be more appropriate than "layer"
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Alayer&diff=999107&oldid=935491
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I spent half an hour figuring out why some particular islands in a river
weren't rendered.
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 08:41:06PM +, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
> On 05/03/2014 20:30, Richard Z. wrote:
> >despite beeing sometimes tricky I still consider it pretty important to know
> >that a certain area is eg part of the tundra climate, permafrost or monsoon.
>
> .
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 08:44:54PM +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 March 2014, Richard Z. wrote:
> >
> > oh yes. You can say the same about a forrest and almost anything in
> > the real world.
>
> No, continuously changing properties exist for man
his better? I have no idea,
it is something that should be discussed but is not a tagging
discussion.
Simple things like mapping corral reefs are still not available.
Would it be possible to map the Gulf stream or other currents?
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> 2014-03-05 14:42 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. :
>
> > As an example, we are having repeated discussions how to tag forrest but
> > did not even start thinking about a generic concept how to map vegetation
> > s
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 04:59:17PM +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 March 2014, Richard Z. wrote:
> > > >climatic zones
> > > >vegetation zones
> > > >soil biology
> > > >vegetation layers
> > >
> > > Are any of
s just too complicated for one list and for someone mapping
the antarctic geology bus route mapping is not so interesting.
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 01:59:33PM +, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
> On 05/03/2014 13:42, Richard Z. wrote:
> >climatic zones
> >vegetation zones
> >soil biology
> >vegetation layers
>
> Are any of these things verifiable?
of course. Tons of literature about it.
I do not have
enough knowledge in balneology or hydrogeology to be confident about defining
water characteristics.
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propose just one ml to cover those topics
and maybe split it up later when there is demand to do so.
I have emailed mich...@osmfoundation.org
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_list#Requests_for_New_Lists)
but so far not got any response.
Richard
Hi Joel,
As Michael says, the elevation model data does not belong in the
OpenStreetMap data base. The wiki has some examples for use of
elevation data bases which are combin-able with OpenStreetMap data.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contour_lines
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daries.
it is the same problem as state boundaries and waterways. As soon as you need
to add a tunnel=culvert to a stream that is a state boundary at the same time
it is a royal pain.
It is not ideal but in most cases better to draw the river some centimeters
asid
anyone in the UK who can help me on this? i am working on
some tagging for firefighting and i need to compare US
terminology with UK terminology. if i could get pointed at
an active UK firefighter of whom i can ask questions, it
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Well, that went out a bit before it was fully baked. I'll try again.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Richard Weait wrote:
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> gather with other local mappers and celebrate.
I've created the 10 birthday
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many times people accidentaly make a node connecting the highways right into
the middle of the bridge where the four areas join.
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Indeed, Alexander,as nebulon says, adding or changing the features is
complicated.
Some layers shown on OSM.org are from third party providers.
The cartographer responsible for each rendering will have very strong opinions
on what they have selected and why. Your opinions may differ. In fact
smAnd and one
for OSM Tracker. it's much easier to enter notes into OSM Tracker.
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On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Pierre Béland wrote:
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> Richard,
>
> you are right, verifying the API changeset link, I did not realized this was
> not the download instruction
> http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/19860227/download
>
> But it is reported th
2014/1/12 Pierre Béland :
> This french contributor reports an empty changeset with an unknown
> contributor.
>
> Would this be a bug in the ID editor + API creating an empty changeset ?
[ ... ]
> Si je fais http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changeset/19860227 j'observe
> que le changeset 198602
guest events to
celebrate august mappers visiting from other places. (and a little
bit of a flood, but we soldiered on anyway.)
What about this thread? Tell me, what your plans are for 2014?
and have a Mappy New Year,
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> I manage to get a list of Cyprus postal codes from Cyprus Postal Service
> both in Greek and in English (as separate files).
> I wrote some python scripts to match the Greek and the English name of
> the streets and mapped
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? Saloons (it's like a pub so it's
probably already mapped) with hitching post, watering trough and poop
and scoop bags?
Are there renderings that include many or most items of interest to
horse riders?
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If you want to go viral and / or have many users, self host or find a
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Best regards and happy mapping,
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[1] the hard working volunteer admin team do the best they can to
schedule and announce service issues.
mer may need a little education, the latter may need a lot
of education and based on Serge's comments, they may not be
interested in being educated. we should not be permitting the
latter to blow off the rules and requirements of our community
if that
ropdown, you will see a tiger 2012 underlayment.
you can use this to compare what's in OSM to the 2012 data set.
so don't be afraid to fix it. there is bad data in TIGER. mistakes
happen.
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> Can you provide some compelling examples of images that you'd like to see us
> using instead?
It isn't easy is it? No rendering will satisfy everyone, and even a
collection of renderings will miss out on representing Ope
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Mikel Maron wrote:
> Thanks Frederik for kicking this off, good discussion of a *potentially* v
> useful feature.
...
> What's the best way to set up this kind of async stats processing, and
> integrate into the rails app?
I've done a quantity of this async mapp
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Grant Slater
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> the primary database server will be unavailable due to maintenance.
>
> I apologise for the short notice.
Grant, thanks always to you and to the full admin team, for mak
min borders. but perhaps we should
start with admin borders only for proof of concept and
to control the amount of work that needs to be done.
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direction twice a day and the number of EZPass only lanes
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o hook test instances up to the main (unimproved) database even
if it were desirable. [This is implicit in Tom's message but I thought I'd
point it out!]
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everything that pro users might want isn't a
good way of building a design that appeals to potential newcomers.
But if I say "we need more than one map browser, just as we have more than
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> is there a change log for the code running live?
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should have asked me first". The effect is that you give up editing. Believe
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I can confirm that the Irish OSM community (well, Dermot) ran an
import of the GNS data for the island of Ireland in 2007.
The dense blob is the County of Longford where user PaddyMatthews
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/PaddyMatthews/edits) has been
painstakingly adding townland and other boun
ces to make it happen. So far
they haven't. You can have all the mailing list discussions like this in the
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with OSM data.
If even Google can't manage to be everything, openstreetmap.org certainly
can't be. Instead, we're at the heart of an ecosystem that allows people to
build their own "everything"s. If the OSM-based "everything" for y
tch tag presets. They are one piece of
source material, yes, but only something to be informed by, and even then
very minimally. taginfo and real-world mapping experience are much more
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Similarly, I parse route_ref to identify which stops are served by a
particular bus route. Maperitive can't pick out the nodes from the relation
directly, so I was glad of the "alternative/duplicate" method.
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Jo wrote:
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Easiest of all would probably be to include the marker by default, and let
people edit it out if they don't want it.
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On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Andrew Errington wrote:
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>
> I think that's slightly different to what I had in mind. My suggestion
> was
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> But in the end I think this whole source thing is completely
> overestimated.
Yup.
> What do you propose to do with source tags found on an object when
> you modify this object based on a different source?
OSM has full object history. :)
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>
> Richard, can you explain a little more of why you think that the idea is
> bad for OSM?
>
Removing "OpenStreetMap" from the attribution requirement is bad for
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Alex Barth wrote:
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> I'd love to start pushing again on the OSM attribution mark.
>
Clearly. :-)
I think that the idea is bad for OpenStreetMap.
The logo is pretty.
The logo is pretty and the idea is bad for OpenStreetMap. At the core, th
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for 100% consensus on talk@ you'll never get anything done. And, as ever,
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I were feeling Machiavellian I'd suggest we consider hosting them on our
servers (load permitting) so we get an automatic heads-up of who's using
OSM...
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> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> The previous tagging was inadequate, bordering on offensive
>>>
>>
>
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> The previous tagging was inadequate, bordering on offensive
>
Which tagging was that?
It is my understanding that First Nations boundaries just don't fit within
the simple number-line model that OpenStreetMap has used for
boundary=administr
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out the conflicting element and then used upload.py to upload it to OSM.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Upload.py
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