Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: [Osm] importazione dati in OpenStreetMap

2020-06-13 Thread Luca Delucchi
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 22:42, Andrea Albani wrote: > > Ciao a tutti, > ciao, > scusate il cross posting, ma penso che quanto scritto sia di interesse > fondamentale per la comunità OSM prima ancora che per quella wikimedia in cui > si sta sviluppando la proposta. > > In estrema sintesi il

Re: [Talk-us] USGS Topo layer for JOSM?

2020-06-13 Thread Mike Thompson
Dave, Can you provide the URL so those of us that no longer have access can manually add it back in? Thanks, Mike On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:40 PM Mike Thompson wrote: > I use it quite often. It is good for names of water bodies. However, I > just checked now, and it doesn't seem to be

Re: [Talk-us] USGS Topo layer for JOSM?

2020-06-13 Thread Mike Thompson
I use it quite often. It is good for names of water bodies. However, I just checked now, and it doesn't seem to be listed on the imagery menu any more. Mike On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:37 PM Dave Swarthout wrote: > I'm still seeing it and using it for my mapping chores in Alaska. > > On Sun,

Re: [Talk-us] USGS Topo layer for JOSM?

2020-06-13 Thread Dave Swarthout
I'm still seeing it and using it for my mapping chores in Alaska. On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:27 AM Tod Fitch wrote: > Sometime pretty recently the USGS topographic map layer disappeared from > JOSM and I don’t even see it in the available layers to add back in. I > don’t use it a lot, but when I

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-13 Thread Chuck Sanders
Sorry to be a little slow today, the weather was gorgeous here today (probably the prettiest day we've had all spring so far!) and I got cabin fever at lunch. Now I'm in nap mode, and trying to get caught up on all the excellent discussion that happened when I was soaking up the sun this

[Talk-it-lazio] Fwd: [Talk-it] Sondaggio OpenStreetMap Italia

2020-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Inoltro su Marche e Lazio. Ciao Lorenzo --- Messaggio inoltrato --- Da: Anisa Kuci Rispondi a: openstreetmap list - italiano A: openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: [Talk-it] Sondaggio OpenStreetMap Italia Data: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 16:46:24 +0200 Ciao a tutti,

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
ok !   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 5:19 PM -05:00 from John D. : >  >OK ! > >  >>Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:24 PM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via talk < >>talk@openstreetmap.org >: >>  >>Though if valid tagging results in poor results, then it still can be reported

Re: [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us
OK !   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:25 PM -05:00 from Shawn K. Quinn >: >  >On 6/13/20 09:08, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote: >> If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a >> person from the data group as an editor, >> >> asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he

Re: [Talk-it] Aggiornamento civici comune di Fiè allo Sciliar BZ

2020-06-13 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Il sab 13 giu 2020, 23:21 Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi ha scritto: > Riesci ad inserire una regola per correggere questo? > addr:street=Blumauer Straße - Via Prato All' Isarco > > preposizione in minuscolo e senza spazio dopo l'apostrofo. > Certo, me lo segno. Poi pubblicherò la repository dove ci

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-13 Thread Natfoot
I guess I have been confused all this time. Nathan P email: natf...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:49 PM Clay Smalley wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, the examples you've given are instances of > railway:track_ref=*, not ref=*. > > Throwing my two cents in here—that coincides with the way

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread blef
28^e ? Mais pour saisir name=28^e dans JOSM (avec e en exposant), je sais pas faire. Et je crains que ça perturbe certains outils. ^ Le 13/06/2020 à 23:06, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-13 Thread stevea
Russ Nelson writes: > Yeah, for me the map is much more important than the wiki. Except for > Wikipedia's stupid citation rules, all that information > belongs in > Wikipedia. Although if it drives more mappers, that's fine. Maybe we should > populate the wiki with the > old_railroad_operator

Re: [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 6/13/20 09:08, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us wrote: > If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a > person from the data group as an editor, > > asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he does not get back to > me, why are you telling me I can not use > > google as a

Re: [Talk-it] Aggiornamento civici comune di Fiè allo Sciliar BZ

2020-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno lun, 08/06/2020 alle 18.37 +0200, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: > Ciao > intervengo ora dopo parecchio. > A suo tempo ho collaborato con la Provincia Autonoma di Bolzano al > progetto opengisdata.eu che ha visto poi l'import massivo dei dati > come documentato da Lorenzo. > Il fine del

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Though if valid tagging results in poor results, then it still can be reported https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD (check whatever it is already reported before making a new issue) Jun 6, 2020, 12:28 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > >then why is the picture on top of the bridge when bridge is

Re: [Talk-it] Aggiornamento civici comune di Fiè allo Sciliar BZ

2020-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno mer, 10/06/2020 alle 21.38 +0200, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi ha scritto: > Il giorno lun, 08/06/2020 alle 14.13 +0200, Cascafico Giovanni ha > scritto: > > Ho dato un'occhiata al dataset e mi èpare sia abbstanza ordinato > > eprecido per impostare un update-import... > > Ci sono dei piccoli

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread osm . sanspourriel
http://www.circaete.net/eric/Lexique%20des%20r%C3%A8gles%20typographiques%20en%20usage%20%C3%A0%20l%27Imprimerie%20nationale.pdf À afficher 28^e   ça va de soi, comme indiqué page 62 /123. Avec un clin d’œil page 38 (74) pour l'échelle cartographique. Petite correspondance : Donat, du coup je

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Bryce Cogswell via talk
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 3:42 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > > And all this because of a API defect (because there is just one bounding > box per changeset instead of a list)? This hints at a reasonable and not terribly difficult solution, which is for the editor to (optionally and automatically)

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us
OK !   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:56 PM -05:00 from Mike Thompson >: >  >    >On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < >talk-us@openstreetmap.org > wrote: >> >> I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google . >>   >> it was a ruler. >This isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
OK !   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 3:56 PM -05:00 from Mike Thompson >: >  >    >On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < >talk...@openstreetmap.org > wrote: >> >> I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google . >>   >> it was a ruler. >This isn't

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google . > > it was a ruler. This isn't really about OSM, it is about the Google Maps Terms of Service, which by using Google Maps,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 11:20 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google . > > it was a ruler. This isn't really about OSM, it is about the Google Maps Terms of Service, which by using Google Maps,

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
i did not write the e-mail program,   but it looks like your talking about (reply all) not (reply).   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:28 PM -05:00 from Dave F via talk >: >  >Could you please reply to the forum list not just the sender. I assume you're >the OP. Difficult to tell when you use

[Talk-it] Fwd: [Osm] importazione dati in OpenStreetMap

2020-06-13 Thread Andrea Albani
Ciao a tutti, scusate il cross posting, ma penso che quanto scritto sia di interesse fondamentale per la comunità OSM prima ancora che per quella wikimedia in cui si sta sviluppando la proposta. In estrema sintesi il documento citato si propone di incentivare l'import di dati (es. civici)

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Alan Mackie
I have no problem with big bounding boxes that result from editing large objects. I get annoyed by the ones where somebody added twontiny houses on opposite sides of the world. On Sat, 13 Jun 2020, 20:40 Mark Wagner, wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:03:11 +0200 > Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > On

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread phyks
À compléter avec la charte de toponymie de l'IGN également : http://www.ign.fr/sites/all/files/charte_toponymie_ign.pdf Souvent non respecté sur le terrain ceci dit, et le terrain prime... Le 13 juin 2020 21:42:39 UTC+02:00, LeTopographeFou a écrit : >Pour être plus précis deux extraits de ce

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-13 Thread Clay Smalley
If I'm not mistaken, the examples you've given are instances of railway:track_ref=*, not ref=*. Throwing my two cents in here—that coincides with the way I personally use railway:track_ref=*. My understanding is that this uniquely identifies tracks within a line, station or yard, and is not

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread LeTopographeFou
Pour être plus précis deux extraits de ce lexique (dernière édition, celle de 2002) : * Abréviation des nombres ordinaux : on abrégera première, deuxième, troisième... : 1re, 2e, 3e, et non 1ère, 2me ou 3ème... [Note : avec 're' et 'e' en exposant, difficile à retranscrire dans un mail]

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread blef
Le terrain prime... oui, mais curieusement, je n'ai pas déniché les plaques de rue. De plus, les plaques sont le plus souvent rédigées en majuscules, ce qui oblige à une transposition pour suivre les conventions adoptées dans OSM. Bon, d'après les 1ères réactions, 28e semblerait avoir vos

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 08:03:11 +0200 Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:19:46AM -0400, James wrote: > > No they shouldn't, mapping roads in northern Canada, your bbox can > > become quite large quickly as mapping logging roads/dirt roads is > > quick and easy, but span over

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread Dave F via talk
Could you please reply to the forum list not just the sender. I assume you're the OP. Difficult to tell when you use different email addresses. >then why is the picture on top of the bridge when bridge is added. You appear to be confusing the ID editor with actual renderings of the map. How

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread Topographe Fou
Selon les règles typographiques de l'imprimerie nationale (très bon bouquin que je recommande) : 28e . Cependant ce n'est pas rare de voir 28ème sur des documents officiels ou dans la presse écrite.

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-13 Thread Natfoot
Chuck, I think you make some good points in your email. I would discourage the hang ups on the diffring railroad terminology as it is different by railroad and location. Coming to a decision on how we are going to tag is more important. I agree that line segments are useful and interested to

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread Marc Mongenet
Bonjour, Les ouvrages de conventions typographiques françaises que je connais donnent "28ᵉ" (ou "28e" si l'on n'a pas d'exposant). Je n'ai jamais vu "28ème" dans un ouvrage de référence, même si c'est très utilisé dans les textes qui ne suivent pas de convention typographique. Idem pour "28ième".

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Salut, Tel que c'est écrit sur le terrain. Normalement on écrit 28e ou 28ème, pas de majuscule c'est une abréviation de vingt-huitième, mais le terrain prime :) https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/vingt-huiti%C3%A8me Le sam. 13 juin 2020 à 19:42, blef a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Je cherche la

[OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread Georges Dutreix via Talk-fr
Comme toi. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread osm . sanspourriel
La précision "pour la France" est importante car certains pays n'ont pas encore les délimitations des différents échelons administratifs et donc le is_in est encore utile dans certains pays. On peut continuer le nettoyage, tell que le nom de rue des points d'adresses qui sont dans une relation

[OSM-talk-fr] Comment orthographier un nombre ordinal

2020-06-13 Thread blef
Bonjour, Je cherche la meilleure façon d'orthographier le "Quai du 28ème Bataillon de Chasseurs ". 28ème comme ci-dessus avec accent (ma préférence) 28Eme, 28Ème, 28E Sans espace, avec espace. En tout cas la graphie actuelle 28° ma parait la pire.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread Yves P.
> Il me semble qu'il y a eu du ménage de fait sur les is_in=* > > Est-ce que ça vaudrait le coup de faire pareil ? Un petit coup de requête Overpass dans JOSM (pour la France) et… c'est réglé :) __ Yves ___ Talk-fr mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google .    it was a ruler. >Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:40 AM -05:00 from Lester Caine : >  >On 13/06/2020 15:08, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: >> why are you telling me I can not use google as a map source > >First reason is

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us
I am not copying any thing, just looking at a satellite view from google .    it was a ruler. >Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:40 AM -05:00 from Lester Caine : >  >On 13/06/2020 15:08, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: >> why are you telling me I can not use google as a map source > >First reason is

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
is it just rivers or would that included polygons, river banks, area ?   Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:44 AM -05:00 from Joseph Eisenberg :   I mostly have mapped in parts of Indonesia where there was no data, and the new road or river was mapped for the first time.   Usually I try to split roads

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
>i did that it was 10 feet than someone says it can not be 10 feet a mile or so >down the road and he is right  >  >so i changed it but it was 10 feet where i was. >  >>Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:44 AM -05:00 from Joseph Eisenberg < >>joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com >: >>  >>I mostly have mapped in

Re: [Talk-it] [talk-it] pagamento con carta

2020-06-13 Thread Francesco Ansanelli
Buonasera Volker, lo stesso avviso viene dato anche per i pagamenti con carta di debito e criptovalute. Cripto a parte, "yes" sarebbe credo sempre anche "multi", perché i circuiti Visa e Mastercard sono i più diffusi in Italia e credo quasi sempre accettati. Nel caso in cui fossero anche noti (di

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I mostly have mapped in parts of Indonesia where there was no data, and the new road or river was mapped for the first time. Usually I try to split roads and rivers every ~10 kilometers. - Joseph Eisenberg On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 8:46 AM Mateusz Konieczny via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org>

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
You should check the measurement directly from aerial imagery in iD or JOSM, or by visiting the location in person and measuring or estimating. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:24 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > since the complainer removed the source (google map)

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
You should check the measurement directly from aerial imagery in iD or JOSM, or by visiting the location in person and measuring or estimating. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:24 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > since the complainer removed the source (google map)

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-13 Thread Chuck Sanders
Nathan, thanks - I've been thinking over your email and use case since coffee this morning, and looking for the right questions to pick your brain too, so that we can get the documentation right in the NA tagging wiki, and all of us on the same page. I also started working up a a NA-specific and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
since the complainer removed the source (google map) do i remove the # as well ?   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:09 AM -05:00 from Mike Thompson >: >  >According to the Google Maps Terms of service, you cannot use it in any way to >make another map. [0]  I would think that would include using

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us
since the complainer removed the source (google map) do i remove the # as well ?   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:09 AM -05:00 from Mike Thompson >: >  >According to the Google Maps Terms of service, you cannot use it in any way to >make another map. [0]  I would think that would include using

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mike Thompson
According to the Google Maps Terms of service, you cannot use it in any way to make another map. [0] I would think that would include using its ruler if the purpose of using the ruler is to edit OSM. [0] 2.d of https://www.google.com/help/terms_maps/ On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 9:47 AM

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread James
also there's a ruler in JOSM On Sat., Jun. 13, 2020, 11:45 a.m. Mateusz Konieczny via talk, < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler? > > Why using ruler on Google Maps would be even necessary? > > Jun 13, 2020, 17:31 by

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us
because i was asked to change my edit based on my own ruler measurement,   but it was just a ruler on google maps.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:42 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us >: >  >If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler? >  >Why using ruler on

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
because i was asked to change my edit based on my own ruler measurement,   but it was just a ruler on google maps.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:42 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us >: >  >If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler? >  >Why using ruler on

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 13, 2020, 08:03 by f...@zz.de: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:19:46AM -0400, James wrote: > >> No they shouldn't, mapping roads in northern Canada, your bbox can become >> quite large quickly as mapping logging roads/dirt roads is quick and easy, >> but span over multiple kms >> > > The

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler? Why using ruler on Google Maps would be even necessary? Jun 13, 2020, 17:31 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map. > >   > >> Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz

[OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland Membership

2020-06-13 Thread Heikki Vesanto
Hi all, We are very happy to announce that we now have an online membership portal. Supports signing up and renewal of memberships. More features will be added over time. If you are interested in joining the official Irish chapter of OpenStreetMap, supporting the boards work, and/or voting in

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
If you were not copying Google Maps then why you were using the ruler? Why using ruler on Google Maps would be even necessary? Jun 13, 2020, 17:31 by t...@openstreetmap.org: > i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map. > >   > >> Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us
i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via talk >: >  >  >  >  >Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by eric.lad...@gmail.com: >>Yeah, be careful with Google Maps.  It's owned and created by a company and >>if you copy from it and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
i put them as a source i used a ruler on there map.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via talk >: >  >  >  >  >Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by eric.lad...@gmail.com: >>Yeah, be careful with Google Maps.  It's owned and created by a company and >>if you copy from it and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by eric.lad...@gmail.com: > Yeah, be careful with Google Maps.  It's owned and created by a company and > if you copy from it and they can prove it, they could sue the OSM Foundation > into oblivion.  They used to even have their OWN satellites to obtain > imagery. 

Re: [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Jun 13, 2020, 16:59 by eric.lad...@gmail.com: > Yeah, be careful with Google Maps.  It's owned and created by a company and > if you copy from it and they can prove it, they could sue the OSM Foundation > into oblivion.  They used to even have their OWN satellites to obtain > imagery. 

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] et si c'était Nöel ? liste de souhait et d'intérêt des outils existant

2020-06-13 Thread osm . sanspourriel
J'ai été étonné qu'Yves n'a pas réagi sur "URL de chaque point de vente d'une enseigne" car grosso-modo c'est une expression régulière basée sur une ref... comme les liens Wikidata. Mais je pense que c'est plus un projet du mois pour qu'on recherche pour les enseignes ces infos. Après l'assos

[Talk-it] [talk-it] pagamento con carta

2020-06-13 Thread Volker Schmidt
Ogni tanto quando faccio un edit (spostamento) che include un esercizio dove si può pagare con carta mi salta fuori questo avviso in JOSM perché questi esercizi hanno il tag payment:credit_cards=yes: "payment:credit_cards=yes is inaccurate. Use separate tags for each specific type, e.g.

Re: [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Eric Ladner
Yeah, be careful with Google Maps. It's owned and created by a company and if you copy from it and they can prove it, they could sue the OSM Foundation into oblivion. They used to even have their OWN satellites to obtain imagery. That's serious money. Typically, with local edits, I put "Local

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
this was a tool on the map that measured distance.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:29 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us >: >  >You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source. >  >Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM? >  >"since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area

Re: [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us
this was a tool on the map that measured distance.   >Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:29 AM -05:00 from Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us >: >  >You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source. >  >Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM? >  >"since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area

Re: [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source. Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM? "since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area 7 months old." FYI, world is larger than your local area. Jun 13, 2020, 16:08 by talk-us@openstreetmap.org: > If you people want me to prove

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
You are not allowed to use Google Maps as source. Have you used Google Maps to edit OSM? "since all the maps on OSM are old news like in my local area 7 months old." FYI, world is larger than your local area. Jun 13, 2020, 16:08 by talk...@openstreetmap.org: > If you people want me to prove

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-13 Thread Russell Nelson
On 6/13/20 12:30 AM, Natfoot wrote: And I don't trust the FRA database to be accurate. No database is perfect. Not even OSM. Some databases can be useful. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Rail tagging in US (and North America): operator=* and reporting_marks=*

2020-06-13 Thread Russell Nelson
On 6/13/20 12:25 AM, stevea wrote: It is absolutely fascinating (to me, anyway) to watch this conversation! I thanked Russ Nelson on wiki for his comments at New York/Railroads. (And we still have a ways to go there). Yeah, for me the map is much more important than the wiki. Except for

[Talk-us] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us
If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a person from the data group as an editor,   asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he does not get back to me, why are you telling me I can not use   google as a map source, since all the maps on OSM are old news. like in my

[OSM-talk] Google earth, Google maps

2020-06-13 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk
If you people want me to prove my edit by adding a source, and a person from the data group as an editor,   asks me to prove it, and i redo my edit and he does not get back to me, why are you telling me I can not use   google as a map source, since all the maps on OSM are old news. like in my

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread deuzeffe
Le 13/06/2020 à 13:35, Yves P. a écrit : En revanche, je ne comprends pas l'intérêt de addr:city & addr:postcode de la contribution initiale (pour la première relation, par ex.). +1 Je comprends qu'avec un formulaire un débutant cherche à remplir toutes les cases :D (on a tous fait ça ?)

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] et si c'était Nöel ? liste de souhait et d'intérêt des outils existant

2020-06-13 Thread Marc M.
Bonjour, Merci pour vos retours. Voici la compilation chronologique des 8 personnes ayant répondu avec utilisation et/ou besoin/souhait. un doubble étonnement : le nombre limité à 8 et le peux de retour sur les outils existant, à croire qu'on peux fermer la moitié :) - avoir un éditeur web

Re: [talk-au] T-Intersection signs - how to map a sign at 90 degrees

2020-06-13 Thread Ewen Hill
Thanks Luke and Alex - I appreciate such a rapid response. AU:W2-4 (L) it is Ewen On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 21:56, Alex Sims wrote: > The sign on the main road will be W2-4 (L), Side road entering on left, > one day. > > > > When conventions change, signs aren’t changed overnight, road

Re: [talk-au] T-Intersection signs - how to map a sign at 90 degrees

2020-06-13 Thread Alex Sims
The sign on the main road will be W2-4 (L), Side road entering on left, one day. When conventions change, signs aren’t changed overnight, road authorities replace them as needed. You are looking at an older sign. At some point the arrow was added to the standard. Alex From: Ewen Hill Date:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread Philippe Verdy
A condition de trouver les relations parentes ! Sinon garder au moins "addr:street" (et "addr:city" pour la désambiguisation des noms de rues sur plusieurs communes) ou bien l'attribut "ref:FR:FANTOIR[:left/right]" s'il est là. Reste alors à créer les relations manquantes pour nettoyer le reste

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread Yves P.
> If it runs, don't fix it ;) Ce qui ne "fonctionnait" pas c'était les POI membres de la relation ;) > En revanche, je ne comprends pas l'intérêt de addr:city & > addr:postcode de la contribution initiale (pour la première relation, par > ex.). +1 Je comprends qu'avec un formulaire un débutant

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Alan Mackie
Splitting changesets does sound like a lot of work if you don't already have for example the multi layer tools that JOSM has. Would a warning that "you already have pending edits ___ km away, please consider saving or discarding those before editing here" be useful in the interim? I think this

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Chambre de commerce et d'industrie

2020-06-13 Thread Philippe Verdy
Si c'est une autorité faisant droit, c'est bien une forme de gouvernement local (justifié en plus sur le fait qu'il y a des adhésions, des élections, c'est une sorte de conseil local même si ce n'est pas pour toute la population mais cela vise les professionnels en tant que personnes morales (la

[talk-au] T-Intersection signs - how to map a sign at 90 degrees

2020-06-13 Thread Ewen Hill
Hi, I have a straight main road and a 90 degree road to the left that stops at the main road. A yellow t-junction diamond precedes the intersection on the main through road so the T has been rotated 90 degrees. The intersection in question is at openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-34.35067/142.03662 How

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Simon Poole
I've advocated for this in the past,  but getting this right from a business logic pov is fairly tricky and is yet another thing that an editor needs to keep track of when creating and modify geometries, and changing tags. From the top my head at least: new object creation, dragging nodes and

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread leni
Le 13/06/2020 à 11:22, deuzeffe a écrit : Le 13/06/2020 à 11:01, Yves P. a écrit : Un exemple ? J'ai créé modifié ou créé des relations associatedStreet. Il me semblait qu'il y avait tous les membres. JOSM à râler à la validation. Je les ai rechargées et validées ce matin. JOSM ne râle plus.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread deuzeffe
Le 13/06/2020 à 11:01, Yves P. a écrit : Un exemple ? J'ai créé modifié ou créé des relations associatedStreet. Il me semblait qu'il y avait tous les membres. JOSM à râler à la validation. Je les ai rechargées et validées ce matin. JOSM ne râle plus. Il y en avait peut-être une incomplète ??

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread Yves P.
> Un exemple ? J'ai créé modifié ou créé des relations associatedStreet. Il me semblait qu'il y avait tous les membres. JOSM à râler à la validation. Rue de la Chevalerie (10959612, v2) Place de la Comédie (10959605, v2)

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Numéro sans nom de rue : faux positifs dans la validation de JOSM

2020-06-13 Thread deuzeffe
Le 12/06/2020 à 19:08, Yves P. a écrit : Bonsoir, Bonjour, JOSM râle pour *addr:housenumber=** sans *addr:street=** alors que la rue est indiquée dans une relation de type *associatedStreet*. Un exemple ? -- deuzeffe ___ Talk-fr mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] [OT] DAE - defibrillatori

2020-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Rolla
Ringrazio Giovanni che ha accolto la mia segnalazione e ha provveduto a creare la pagina italiana. Alcune considerazioni: nella futura legge l'uso del defibrillatore sarà consentito a *chiunque* in caso di emergenza. Quindi il periodo *sebbene talvolta il loro uso sia concesso solo a persone che

Re: [OSM-talk] Large cadastral polygons

2020-06-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jun 2020, at 17:39, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Not just that, but cadastral type tags probably shouldn't be spanning large > areas to start with. If your landuse or landcover polygon is crossing an > unclassified or higher highway, you're probably making a big

[OSM-talk-fr] Titres de paiement

2020-06-13 Thread Yves P.
Bonjour, On trouve aussi en France : Ciné-chèque Chèque Cinéma Universel (accepté normalement dans 100% des cinés français) Chèques-vacances ANCV (dans le wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Phil Wyatt
The issue is actually still open in ID https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5424 and references the more recent request https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/7434 From: Alan Mackie Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2020 2:26 AM To: Paul Johnson Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject:

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-13 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 11:19:46AM -0400, James wrote: > No they shouldn't, mapping roads in northern Canada, your bbox can become > quite large quickly as mapping logging roads/dirt roads is quick and easy, > but span over multiple kms The point is that the line/way of that road should also not