Re: [Talk-us] Anyone feel like helping another mapper in New York?

2018-12-09 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/11/2018 21:24, Andy Townsend wrote (heavily snipped): Hello, Over the last couple of months there have been edits by a new mapper in New York who seems to like changing things but hasn't quite got the hang of what they're doing yet.  ...   Comments can be seen at http://resultmaps.neis

Re: [Talk-us] The San Jose / Santa Clara border

2019-01-27 Thread Andy Townsend
Volunteer stevea mailto:stevea...@softworkers.com>> wrote: On Jan 26, 2019, at 4:00 AM, Andy Townsend mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com>> wrote: > A mapper has recently changed this to "cut the corner off" north of the 880 between San Jose airport and Stevens Creek Mall /

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

2019-03-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/03/2019 07:13, Paul Norman via Talk-us wrote: As a maintainer of some of the projects listed, I find that you're misrepresenting the situation. On 2019-03-08 11:25 a.m., Kevin Kenny wrote: I've sounded out the maintainers of various of the OSM software, and get different assessments.

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

2019-04-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2019 09:38, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone Back in the day of the original NapPTAN import we imported pay scale areas - tagged as public_transport=pay_scale_area. I don't know why we ever did this - there's no evidence on the ground and it's highly unlikely that any OSM data

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

2019-04-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2019 10:48, Stuart Reynolds wrote: What do you mean by “pay scale”? Are you meaning the definition of a stop as a fare stage, or as part of a zone? Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38387740 (that's one that I haven't deleted yet) Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

2019-04-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2019 11:05, Philip Barnes wrote: I believe they were the zones covered by plusbus tickets. I believe (and Stuart will know far more about this than me!) they predate the widescale adoption of PlusBus in the UK. Certainly when PlusBus was introduced in Chesterfield it didn't match the

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of amenity=university within the University of Cambridge

2019-04-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/04/2019 12:28, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: I've noticed that there are rather a lot of amenity=university objects in Cambridge,... What do other people think? Could we get an agreement to at least remove the amenity=university tags from buildings etc within each larger university

Re: [Talk-GB] DoBIH Update - Permission Received

2019-02-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/02/2019 23:04, Adam Snape wrote: Most of the heights should be derivable from OS Open Data mapping layers ... or from out of copyright OS data.  Hills don't change their height much over a human timescale. Best Regards, Andy ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

2019-02-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/02/2019 10:09, Brian Prangle wrote: I've tagged a couple with amenity=telephone, advertising=screen, wifi=free, device_charging=usb, operator=InLink BT If those take off I'll try and add another telephone variant to

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-05 Thread Andy Townsend
 > tell me which sidewalks need to be mapped (because they are separate geometries, I mean highway=footway, footway=sidewalk) in Graz, Austria Locally I'd do that

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-05 Thread Andy Townsend
> but it's a rare bridleway that is only wide enough for a horse, As DaveF has already suggested, I suspect that's hugely geographically variable - I can think of a few examples in Derbyshire, Notts and Yorkshire where "public bridleways" couldn't accommodate a horse, unless it wasn't much

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/03/2019 16:09, Richard Welty wrote: what can/should we be doing about this sort of stuff? i'm really at a bit of a loss here. Aside from the excellent technical suggestion that's already been made, I'd suggest a polite changeset discussion comment, explaining that the imagery that

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/03/2019 18:43, Nick Bolten wrote: As I mentioned, I'm aware of hacks regarding sidewalks I wouldn't describe sidewalk=none as a hack - speaking as someone who walks a lot, any verifiable tag that says "you're allowed to, but you probably don't want to walk down this road" is really

Re: [Talk-GB] Lake District NationalPark

2019-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/03/2019 21:28, Paul Berry wrote: Relation looks OK to me but I can't see the name at any zoom level: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287917 Looks OK at https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=8=54.228=-2.569 , so I guess OSM's renderer will catch up. Best Regards,

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/03/2019 15:55, Martin Wynne wrote: ... . Do you mean wheel ruts, footprints? I really, really wouldn't worry about it.  There are always edge cases - just pick whatever seems most appropriate to you.  You've been there, other people haven't been, and while a photo is useful it's only

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 16:58, Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca wrote: The word is definitely Saint. St is a contraction and neither proper English or French. I can't comment about Canadian English, but "St" in a placename in British English is perfectly OK - St Albans is correct; "Saint Albans" is not.

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of Argos stores

2019-03-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/03/2019 14:58, Donald Noble wrote: I had a quick look, and Argos stores in the UK seem to be tagged in multiple ways ... Hi Donald, Here's shop tag usage globally: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/shop#values and in the UK:

[Talk-GB] StreetComplete (was: Marking closed businesses)

2019-03-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/03/2019 10:22, David Woolley wrote: On 07/03/2019 09:47, Jon Spriggs wrote: As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it worth asking the Street Complete developers to add information about businesses to their collection data, if they aren't already? I've never

[Talk-GB] "UK-centric" OSM-based maps (was: Common Land has stopped rendering)

2019-03-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/03/2019 13:06, John Aldridge wrote: There should, IMO, be a general purpose UK styled rendering on the front page of https://osmuk.org/ There is/was a discussion about a "UK-centric" map for OSM UK, some of which was below

Re: [Talk-GB] Invalid building levels and building (part) height license compatibility

2019-03-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/03/2019 21:05, Neil Matthews wrote: P.S. Any suggestions  on how I can measure buildings "on-foot" greatly apreciated... If you can't get hold of one of these*: https://www.aols.org/archives/historical-artifacts?page=13 , and if you're after the heights of large buildings in a city

Re: [Talk-GB] Invalid building levels and building (part) height license compatibility

2019-03-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/03/2019 23:41, Warin wrote: For a chimney that is surrounded by a building  I used the shadow of the chimney vs the shadow of the building. That may be more feasible more of the time where you live than where I do! Best Regards, Andy ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 19:21, Martin Wynne wrote: To my mind: highway=footway means a narrow smooth physical object capable of being walked along in safety. It's entirely reasonable to think "to my mind X means ..." but when tagging thing in OSM it makes sense to try and match the approach of

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 18:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Are there any data users who use 'highway=footway;foot=yes' to distinguish from other footways? Sort-of - depending on other tags https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html can display things differently based on that, but it'd be a

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

2019-03-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/03/2019 13:56, Gregory Marler wrote: 1) Can you elaborate on the source(s) of suspected road names? 2) It would helpful if each of us could look at your list in a more localised aspect. Either including county would be more helpful, or at least having latitude and longitude in separate

Re: [Talk-GB] Milton Keynes Redways - How to Tag Consistently

2019-03-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/03/2019 13:35, Ed Loach wrote: How tagging changes over time... RichardF wrote: highway=cycleway, segregated=no achieves all that in two tags rather than seven. :) I remember https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes_Mapping_Party_2009 where it looks like we (or at least I) only

Re: [Talk-GB] Database of British and Irish hills

2019-02-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/2019 23:31, Silent Spike wrote: I recently came across the DoBIH  which you can see is licensed under CC BY 3.0. At least one user claims already asked for permission to use this data: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/36758689

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing road network in New York — MapRoulette challenge

2019-02-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/02/2019 13:01, Jmapb wrote: On 2/9/2019 9:30 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote: Yesterday I took ~1 mln rides we made in December and matched them to the OSM road network. With that I found a few hundred points where an actual trace diverged from the matched one quite often. This usually means a

Re: [talk-au] more SEO spam?

2019-01-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/01/2019 10:25, Andrew Harvey wrote: I agree, unless they come to the table to discuss we should block as much as possible to limit their abuse of OSM. On Wed., 30 Jan. 2019, 7:24 pm nwastra wrote: ...

[Talk-us] The San Jose / Santa Clara border

2019-01-25 Thread Andy Townsend
A mapper has recently changed this to "cut the corner off" north of the 880 between San Jose airport and Stevens Creek Mall / Westfield Valley Fair.  You can see the change at http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=66619223=18=37.33883=-121.93327=B0TTTFT . Some of this mapper's previous

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

2019-06-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/06/2019 13:55, Michael Collinson wrote: ... I tried, then going out to "just verify" and found that I was hopelessly inaccurate. It defeats the point, to get a highly accurate localised network for folks who might depend on it. I did something similar on the dev server a while back

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

2019-06-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/06/2019 11:11, Jez Nicholson wrote: Brighton has also just gained a sidewalk https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/JAn which i'm not overly impressed withor am I being a Luddite? I personally wouldn't map sidewalks in a dense UK city like that (though some people do, with the intention of

Re: [Talk-us] Need someone in the south to review an edit

2019-06-14 Thread Andy Townsend
On 14/06/2019 16:56, Paul Johnson wrote: Aaah, OK.  Would have been nice if Brandify Tran replied to changeset comments. With a DWG hat on I'll send them a "message that they have to read before continuing to edit" and ask them to check their registered email account. Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Newish user causing damage-...

2019-06-23 Thread Andy Townsend
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/2922(apologies for terseness - sending from pub beer garden)

Re: [Talk-GB] Déjà vu

2019-05-23 Thread Andy Townsend
On 23/05/2019 12:40, Gareth L wrote: Ive used http://overpass-api.de/achavi/ for this, if there is no trace of the element. Not so good on mobile. Another overpass option is to search on a particular date, for example: [date:"2018-09-04T00:00:00Z"]; node({{bbox}}); out geom; (that's saved

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmland (crop or animals)?

2019-05-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/05/2019 10:43, Gregory Marler wrote: What is going on with landuse=farmland, and what are we going to do? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland With regard to tagging, I agree with a lot of what you say there, but I suspect that the first thing to do is to talk to

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details 4000 of those: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is? Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/04/2019 18:10, Martin Wynne wrote: barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any. I'd use a "step_count" tag for how many steps there are ("steps" has also been used, often by me, but is probably less

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/04/2019 17:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 29 Apr 2019, 17:36 by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com: On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:24 AM Mateusz Konieczny mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> wrote: Why not simply call anything which is a 'large public area for recreation', a park,

Re: [talk-au] User Diaries Spam

2019-05-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/05/2019 10:38, Simon Poole wrote: ... (and the admins need to be available). That's the key bit, I think, and that's likely to be when the admins are awake (i.e. some hours after the people on this list are). Beyond that (at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious), maybe try

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/05/2019 02:18, seirra blake wrote: is there any articles on what does/doesn't get used on particular zoom levels? just figure it wouldn't hurt to double check my general understanding This cropped up on the forum recently - see

Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag this?

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/05/2019 12:27, Martin Wynne wrote: How should I tag this? It's a former phone box in use to advertise the attractions of the local pub. I don't know if it was done by the pub, or by the local community. Possibly it's a community-run pub. It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps some kind

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

2019-07-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/07/2019 16:39, Martin Wynne wrote: In rural areas there are many places where buses are timetabled to stop but where there is nothing physical -- no signpost or shelter. Are these highway=bus_stop in OSM? (following a previous discussion on this list) I've used "physically_present=no"

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

2019-07-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/07/2019 13:19, Silent Spike wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:02 PM Gareth L > wrote: Forgive me if this is silly question/statement, but the adj/alt names etc are in the naptan dataset. Wouldn’t it be better to have the link made between the stop in OSM

Re: [talk-ph] Potentially problematic edits

2019-06-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/06/2019 15:41, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Thank you for this notice. I have reverted the changeset you mentioned. While I am a bit too far away to confirm on-the-ground, I have tried to confirm or research online any news about any supposed "future expansion" of the shopping mall

Re: [talk-ph] Potentially problematic edits

2019-06-27 Thread Andy Townsend
On 27/06/2019 15:18, maning sambale wrote: Yes we aware of this issue, we are tracking it here: https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix/issues/50 Thanks.  It'd be good if there was a link to that from changeset discussions rather than just a hashtag :) Does this need me to revert this change

Re: [Talk-GB] ITOworld maps

2019-07-13 Thread Andy Townsend
On 13/07/2019 15:33, Brian Prangle wrote: ITOworld  maps which showed a huge variety of visualisations of OSM data seems to have gone offline. Hi Brian, I suspect that many (most?) of the visualisations that ITO used to provide could be done with Overpass / Overpass turbo (even as far as

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Downloading OSM slippy map tiles

2019-07-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/07/2019 19:26, Iain Simpson wrote: I've just tried to run it again and it fails with 'urllib.error.HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden' I assume that the OSM access methods/conditions have changed. Can anyone suggest where to look or who to contact ? My guess is that you're using http

[talk-ph] Potentially problematic edits

2019-06-27 Thread Andy Townsend
likely, have created another sock-puppet account that hasn't been noticed yet). Various people within the community have reverted previous edits in the past; just checking whether this one needed to be done too. Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group

Re: [Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

2019-08-17 Thread Andy Townsend
> Why on earth are there 2 versions of OSMTracker for Android on the Play store?! It's open source software, so it's fairly technically straightforward to "clone, modify and resubmit".  What restrictions Google put on this sort of thing currently I don't know, but I suspect they're mostly limited

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 16:57, Mark Goodge wrote: I'm a little puzzled by one of the lines on the permissions grid on that page. There's a line for "Legal RoW but access discouraged", with a suggested tagging of "discouraged/private" for pedestrians (and similar tags for other users). Quite apart

Re: [Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features

2019-09-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 17:50, Edward Bainton wrote: Just a quick question: what sort of role should overpass turbo play in my researches on this topic (and on canoe portages especially)? I use it all the time when looking for things that people might have mapped using tags that I wasn't aware of.  In

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

2019-08-09 Thread Andy Townsend
There are certainly places where the rights-of-way as signed don't match what appears on e.g. OS Landranger - I was in one south of York just a couple of days ago. There in fact the OS data (including OS Opendata / older OS maps which have been traced into OSM) doesn't match what's on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Newish user causing damage-...

2019-07-21 Thread Andy Townsend
18:10, Colin Smale wrote: Thanks Phil. On 2019-06-23 18:59, Philip Barnes wrote: On Sun, 2019-06-23 at 16:50 +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/2922 (apologies for terseness - sending from pub beer garden) Thank you Andy. I have reverted this, I had

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default

2019-07-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/07/2019 13:28, David Woolley wrote: On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen Colebourne wrote: unless there is an explicit "private" sign There is no legal need for "private" signs.  The default assumption should be that everything is private ... in England and Wales.  Scotland is somewhat more

Re: [Talk-GB] Next quarters project will be fixmes and notes

2019-09-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/09/2019 13:24, Michael Booth wrote: Fixmes can only be viewed in iD or with a QA tool, while notes can be viewed on osm.org and StreetComplete which is useful for actually going out and surveying them. If you're a Garmin user you can use https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/Notes01 from

[talk-au] Mailing lists (was: Re: Discussion H: public transport – the end game)

2019-10-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/10/2019 08:19, Edoardo Neerhut wrote: it would make sense to limit his communications so we're not bombarded daily with his emails. At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, one thing that it is perhaps worth mentioning is that in most mail clients it's perfectly possible to "file

[Talk-bo] Nuevos mapeadores en Bolivia

2019-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
. Atentamente, Andy Townsend, En nombre del Grupo de Trabajo de Datos de OSM. (que es una traducción automática de) Hello, Andy from OSM's Data Working Group here.  We've heard that in Bolivia you might occasionally have large numbers at of students mapping in OSM for short periods of time (perhaps

Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way vs. tracks

2019-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/09/2019 19:37, Edward Bainton wrote: Do I mark a track, with all it's passability tags, and then tag horses & foot=designated? That acknowledges the track, but disregards the documentation here

[talk-au] "designated" for foot and bicycle (was: Re: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-09-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/09/2019 11:34, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 28/9/19 8:55 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: If the way is specifically for a particular mode, then use mode=designated. So a shared cycle pedestrian path is foot=designated+bicycle=designated. Actually in Australia if a path is designated for bicycles

Re: [Talk-GB] non-squared buildings

2019-09-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/09/2019 11:15, Jez Nicholson wrote: Some people seem quite animated about non-squared buildings in OSMcan anyone tell me why it matters so much? because 'accuracy'? A possible (slightly contentious) view might be that: * some people have been complaining about the quality of HOT

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

2019-11-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 22/10/2019 10:38, and...@black1.org.uk wrote: On 2019-10-21 11:26, Andy Townsend wrote: I don't have data for the whole UK, but do have numbers for "OSM notes" and "fixme tags" for a couple of areas going back at least a couple of years.  If people are interested I co

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-11-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/11/2019 18:19, Edward Bainton wrote: (much snippage) Sustrans appear to have moved the NCN routes off their own site altogether (perhaps not news to you), and link directly to osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ncn . The behaviour is pretty horrible -

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

2019-11-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/11/2019 22:51, Edward Bainton wrote: What do I do about a fixme on a relation? A bus route near me says fixme=check relation plus members - appears broken https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2580522#map=14/52.5823/-0.2418=N Presumably 'broken' means the route has gaps in it? On a

Re: [Talk-GB] OSMF board election

2019-11-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/11/2019 10:26, Rob Nickerson wrote: Are there any questions that you want asking of the candidates for OSMF directorship? We have until 2019-11-13 00:01 UTC to submit these. (for completeness) List of candidates: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM19/Election_to_Board

Re: [Talk-GB] Elections Online website - candidate for OSM?

2019-12-03 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/12/2019 09:47, Edward Bainton wrote: Hi all General Elections Online  (hosted at parliament.uk ) have got a failed page where the Google map is overlaid with "Development purposes

Re: [talk-au] "Missing" Roads in Queensland

2019-12-10 Thread Andy Townsend
On 10/12/2019 23:33, cleary wrote: In recent times a proliferation of unnamed roads has appeared on the map with edits usually titled "Missing Roads in Queensland" or similar. I have communicated with a couple of the people, providing specific instances of observed errors, but the problem

Re: [Talk-GB] What is farmland?

2019-12-16 Thread Andy Townsend
On 16/12/2019 11:59, Gareth L wrote: I’m all for using a polygon per field, but am unsure what to do at the boundaries. Do I make 2 field polygons meet? Or leave a gap as there’s a track/hedge/fence/small coppice/ ditch/drain ? I’m probably not going to be able to map the boundary

Re: [Talk-GB] Zebra crossings being lost in iD - how to respond

2019-10-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/10/2019 11:43, Jez Nicholson wrote: +1 for a bot edit Perhaps Maproulette would be a better option?  Zebra markings would often be visible on aerial imagery, and a comparison of newer vs older imagery might allow people to identify recent changes*. Best Regards, Andy * Somewhat

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

2019-10-21 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/10/2019 10:53, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 11:46 by bpran...@gmail.com: Hi everyone So  far according tothe taginfo script we've managed to ADD 415 fixmes and remove 84 FIXMEs. I don't have data yet on OSM Notes. Don't know what's going on here with the

Re: [talk-au] tagging of "demolished" roads

2019-11-26 Thread Andy Townsend
On 26/11/2019 12:01, Ian Steer wrote: Nanga Rd in WA’s south west has been affected by bauxite mining and has been re-routed.  I’m hesitant to simply delete the old alignment, and am wondering whether there is an appropriate tag like “demolished=yes” to use on it instead ? Deleting the

[talk-au] Fantasy mapping NE of Broken Hill

2019-11-01 Thread Andy Townsend
Hi, An enthusiastic Russian person has been busy with fantasy edits NE of Broken Hill (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/76455814 etc.).  That account looks like it's related to a couple of others editing elsewhere, so it wouldn't surprise me if they pop up again as another name (which

Re: [talk-au] Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset

2019-10-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/10/2019 09:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 7 Oct 2019, 23:02 by talk-au@openstreetmap.org: "Community paths" (official term) are the most common path type in the ACT and correspond in the OSM ATG to the tagging: - highway=path - foot=designated - bicycle=designated -

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/10/2019 12:46, Andrew Davidson wrote: I think at one point footway was assumed to be paved and path unpaved. I think that it's actually a bit more complicated than that.  The "standard" style on OpenStreetMap.org changed to displaying footway and path the same because it was clear

Re: [Talk-GB] Disused or empty apartments

2019-12-18 Thread Andy Townsend
On 18/12/2019 23:47, Warin wrote: On 19/12/19 00:41, Mike Baggaley wrote: Perhaps setting both building=yes and disused: building=apartments would fulfill all the needs. Err no. Having both tags on the one object is contradictory. How is it determined which tag to render? Aside from this

[Talk-es] Comarcas de España

2020-03-05 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello again everyone, I just wondered whether the conversation on how to map the Comarcas of Spain had come to any conclusion?  There was a lot of discussion about these in January, but not much since. Best Regards, Andy (apologies for English text; rough Spanish translation follows -

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

2020-02-24 Thread Andy Townsend
Since I was going through these anyway to see what ought to be rendered at map.atownsend.org.uk, I thought I might as well list them here too.  These are things "tagged a bit like showgrounds, excluding bus stops and car parks", sorted by one of the main tags. I suspect that the ones tagged

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

2020-02-24 Thread Andy Townsend
On 24/02/2020 09:57, Mark Goodge wrote: Morning all, Someone has commented on a change I made to the Three Counties showground last year when I changed the tagging to landuse=grass rather than landuse=commercial. Their suggestion is that it really ought to be landuse=recreation_ground, with

Re: [Talk-GB] Presumed Vandalism

2020-01-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/01/2020 20:32, Neil Matthews wrote: See edits by https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jackgeo123 I've reverted the most obvious problem changesets in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/80281065 .  I've left the earlier stuff - if any of that looks wrong add a comment to the

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/02/2020 15:37, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote: >There isn't, I'm afraid.. it's a right hotchpotch IMHO, it would be a waste of time, if you tried to create a single area object (do I mean "closed way"?) to be the university.  That would just be most of the city centre. The University

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland within the OSM Community Index

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 03/02/2020 07:58, Dave Corley wrote: That's great Andy, thanks for sorting it out On Mon 3 Feb 2020, 00:12 Andy Townsend, wrote: On 30/01/2020 14:33, Donal Hunt wrote: Sounds goods to me and will reduce duplication. and that's now live at https://openstreetmap.community/ . Best

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging ad hoc parking places?

2020-01-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/01/2020 18:58, ael wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 06:14:44PM +, Martin Wynne wrote: -- even if it is, highway=layby appears to be an abandoned proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Lay-by That was a proposal for "highway=layby".  "layby" does get used as

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging ad hoc parking places?

2020-01-31 Thread Andy Townsend
On 31/01/2020 11:41, Martin Wynne wrote: But the places I was asking about can't really be called laybys, or car parks. Somewhere that a car could be left for a few hours out of anyone's way on an otherwise long narrow lane:  https://goo.gl/maps/nSTAbnE4nYXTBAz59 That's a really good

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland within the OSM Community Index

2020-02-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/01/2020 14:33, Donal Hunt wrote: Sounds goods to me and will reduce duplication. OK - done.  The change is at: https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/osm-community-index/tree/Add_Ireland_geojson the geojson is:

[Talk-GB] "British Islands" (was "OSMUK-in-a-box")

2020-02-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/02/2020 18:35, Rob Nickerson wrote: >do we cover British Overseas Territories such as Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands? Not as OSM UK CIC. We ended up settling on the British Islands: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Islands The data underneath https://openstreetmap.community/

Re: [Talk-GB] "British Islands" (was "OSMUK-in-a-box")

2020-02-07 Thread Andy Townsend
On 07/02/2020 10:55, Jez Nicholson wrote: Personally, I interpret the coverage of Talk-GB and OSMUK to be the same, i.e. Northern Ireland is officially under OSMUK, but for practical reasons mappers may want to interact with OSMIEand the same for Talk-GB + Talk-IE. I think that part of

Re: [Talk-GB] "British Islands" (was "OSMUK-in-a-box")

2020-02-08 Thread Andy Townsend
> I've been looking at IoM, Jersey, and Guernsey which AFAIK have no coverage in the Community Index. As you say, it uses https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2 country codes via the countryCoder so I'm expanding coverage to ["gb", "gg", "je", "im"]. I believe that there may be an issue

[OSM-talk-ie] Ireland within the OSM Community Index

2020-01-30 Thread Andy Townsend
Hello, While fixing something else, I noticed (as you do) that a number of Irish resources in the OSM Community Index seem to be defined using the country code "ie" rather than an explicit area.  If you go to https://openstreetmap.community/ and zoom in you can see the effect - it thinks

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland within the OSM Community Index

2020-01-30 Thread Andy Townsend
On 30/01/2020 14:18, Donal Hunt wrote: I would suggest creating a config specifically for Northern Ireland that includes both UK and (island of) Ireland resources. In most cases, anything less than a country requires a geojson definition I think, so it probably wouldn't actually save any

[Talk-se] "reused accounts" being used to make edits in Sweden

2020-02-16 Thread Andy Townsend
ks_by?page=9 and on the following pages. If anyone spots anything odd or has got any other questions you can mail OSM's Data Working Group at d...@osmfoundation.org . Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group. ___ Talk-se mail

Re: [Talk-GB] Features which move...apparently spurious edits: iD bug or "finger trouble"?

2020-02-15 Thread Andy Townsend
> Has anyone seen something similar?  Presumably this could happen to nodes generally, there is no reason to think amenity=post_box is a factor. Exactly that pattern no - but occasionally new users manage to drag nodes by accident. >  Is there any way to identify features which have moved by

Re: [Talk-es] Ediciones del usuario Verdy_p, sin consenso con la comunidad española de OSM

2020-01-18 Thread Andy Townsend
Just for info, Verdy_p started editing near Zaragosa again so I've blocked them again, and again asked that they join this mailing list to discuss everything here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3386 Best Regards, Andy Townsend (from OSM's Data Working Group) Solo para

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon pickup lockers - how to represent (if at all)?

2020-01-01 Thread Andy Townsend
On 01/01/2020 12:49, Martin Wynne wrote: See also man_made=street_cabinet. The wiki page invites us to add additional usage tags: True, but it's not really a good idea to "expand" the meaning of a key that's already in use too far - it just makes it harder to identify the (in this case)

Re: [Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

2019-12-29 Thread Andy Townsend
> I've a contributor who says it's evidence that some PROWS don't existany > more. They're still shown in Bing's OS Explorer map & in the localauthority's > digital database. ... and are still on the ground in at least some cases. As I read this I've just walked past here:

Re: [Talk-GB] Which paths are shown on this OS 'Standard' render

2019-12-29 Thread Andy Townsend
On 29/12/2019 16:43, Richard Fairhurst wrote: OS have digitised all paths in National Parks and appear to be gradually digitising others. But certainly they haven't done the full set of PROWs yet. Interestingly, just up the road from my previous example is

Re: [talk-au] RapID roads now available for Australia

2020-01-04 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/01/2020 00:39, Dion Moult wrote: I came across some feedback on the quality of RapID in Australia: https://en.osm.town/@rory/103419495240060182 "detecting walls as roads" was pretty much the original problem with Facebook AI additions to OSM (in Egypt), and that had to be completely

Re: [Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

2020-01-05 Thread Andy Townsend
On 05/01/2020 21:33, Philip Barnes wrote: I have just come across an armchair edit using Facebook AI data. They do seem to have failed to check that detections are accurate, or lack experience to identify common Midlands farmland features. They have mapped several hedges as tracks. The

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2020-03-08 Thread Andy Townsend
On 08/03/2020 19:57, Andrew Hain wrote: Is there a resource I can point anyone who puts C numbers in the ref tag of roads at? Possibly the best place is previous discussions on this list, or links from there? It's perhaps also worth mentioning that C roads in Scotland in OSM are still

[Talk-GB] Related map vandalism reverted (was: List moderator - volunteers needed)

2020-03-14 Thread Andy Townsend
As an aside, I've recently (with a DWG hat on) reverted some "schoolkid vandalism" by an account with a similar-sounding name in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/82191956 , and asked the user to get in contact via https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3559 and an OSM PM with the

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/04/2020 18:38, Dave Love wrote: On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 12:08 +0100, SK53 wrote: Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA

Re: [talk-ph] Vandalism by user Niwre Erv Apotseg

2020-03-15 Thread Andy Townsend
ing from there. Although we do get some vandals who create lots of accounts this is relatively rare in OSM, once actual human beings starting explaining to people why they shouldn't add rubbish to OSM they usually stop. Best Regards, Andy Townsend,

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