On 27/09/17 14:40, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On 27 September 2017 at 14:28, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
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>> wikidata provides a section which documents a range of LINKS which
>> identify the same object on other databases. It would be nice if there
>>
ich Wikipedia articles does this object
> represent, and offer some likely candidates, but it shouldn't be
> automatic. I think Mapbox was working on something like that?
There are many lists of data which I now expect to appear in wikidata.
If THAT is appropriate is not a question to answer here, b
On 21/11/17 04:02, Marc Gemis wrote:
> I'll agree with Yuri that is has to be the choice of the mapper to
> work in a specific region and not the challenge creator.
I stopped using MapRoulette simply because it was taking me well out of
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her natural or managed landcover. We can
define landuse=park, but that park can have a lot of detail contained
within it ... We are looking to render blocks of trees, grass, and other
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requested as perhaps a barrier or simply as an amenity ... or has been
preserved as it has been there for hundreds of years ...
We need to build a proper hierarchy of LANDUSE into which more detail
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ng different interpretations on existing tags
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On 02/11/17 10:34, Warin wrote:
> On 02-Nov-17 09:21 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
>> On 02/11/17 09:40, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>> ONE tag to say what? You are still owing an answer to this.
>> I think the problem is similar to the multiple areas problem. There are
>>
ng is a clean set of guidelines for using any
third party reference?
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? The fact that
'FIXME' and 'fixme' can exist on the same node just seems wrong in ANY case?
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of what is important' on a single static
map and I know the technology is there, just not the resources to
generate it?
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, but 'FIXME' is clean and
changing them just because you can adds nothing to the data. Get on an
deal with them to remove them all together is the right tack ...
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A' or something
similar. Units on a storage site may well be more complex than just
number.
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On 23/01/18 09:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2018-01-23 10:06 GMT+01:00 Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk
<mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk>>:
Actually it's more likely to be the estate name so for my near by
estate it is messy since I've ended up using 'housenumber' so that
how it was generated, and can filter the 'social media'
contributions from the 'constructive' ones.
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countries
not have motorways at all? Certainly the current default rendering is
useless for many of us anyway so we have to ue an alternate anyway ...
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email replies properly handled on different lists :( )
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yes could be used to identify that there are associated
area objects that can be used on higher resolution mapping. I don't
think 'area:highway=' has place especially where the 'centerline' way is
used to combine several highway=xxx types such as road,cycleway and
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listing?
I find the practice of adding ANY tag that does not enhance the data as
pointless. There is no need to TAG that there is no number ... you just
don't add the tag ... just as the example here ...
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know the answer, but should the API be able
to accept these ID's anyway? In an ideal world, the previous now hidden
data should perhaps be flagged when the ID is used?
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the lack of Firebug as the
replacement has problems with font sizes at least on linux and does not
provide some of the nice features Firebug STILL provides on my
development machine.
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d traction on the ground?
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omeone has an
'approved' way of adding it back?
Personally I think that micro-mapping complex junctions does require
multiple ways even if the planned routes through a junction can be
abused by taking the wrong path ...
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processes will always be wrong. The
real problem is that there is no mechanism to add corrections in a
secondary system in much the same way as there is no translation system
for the key English elements of the data. Even IPA strings depend on the
context and accent that is being vocalised!
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of the 'complaints' ...
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of that.
Question2Answer looks like it's being well supported. At least it has a
release that works on the latest PHP and while it's a little long in the
tooth, https://github.com/jamesspittal/osqa-q2a offers a hope that there
is potential to pump existing material across?
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to difficult to 'recover' it after systems stopped working.
So where would I head to get my hands on an XML dump of the current data
to see if I can push it into the copy of Q2A I've just set up ...
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which may be
to approach the destination from the other end and perhaps even indicate
'back up to destination' ... now that WOULD be an intelligent router ...
but if there is no information on which to base that decision even the
driver has to guess.
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have any idea what I'm missing in the vhost
settings?
( All the PHP stuff is working fine on Nginx ;) )
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of the building details are now filtering through from the NLPG database.
Certainly new site information is more likely to come that route.
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, but OSM has the correct tracks!
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set of ways
seems much more correct to me. The same with similar data from other countries.
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Dave F. wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
But well mapped rivers don't have ways down their middle
Really?
Care to expand on that please?
MOST rivers are now being mapped fully and so are areas rather than a line with
some arbitrary width. So there is no 'way' corresponding to some arbitrary mid
Ed Loach wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
Dave F. wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
But well mapped rivers don't have ways down their middle
Really?
Care to expand on that please?
MOST rivers are now being mapped fully and so are areas rather
than a line with
some arbitrary width. So
Shaun McDonald wrote:
On 25 Apr 2010, at 07:57, Lester Caine wrote:
If a footpath gets moved do you think I should still show a way mark
it as 'this is where it used to go'?
'closed=2007' makes perfect sense to me. People then coming back to an area
that
they walked 30 years ago would
Dave F. wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
Dave F. wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
But well mapped rivers don't have ways down their middle
Really?
Care to expand on that please?
MOST rivers are now being mapped fully and so are areas rather than a
line with some arbitrary width. So there is no 'way
changes made to the 'historic' copy when in fact
it
is the 'current' version that is being changed?
This data needs to be transparently available in a single database.
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only use
Windows ...
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by a commercial operation that then makes money out of it :(
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idea, it is total bloat when it comes to the
volume of data in OSM. Numeric flags for a lot of core data would remove one
hell of a lot of duplication ... and can quite easily be returned as full XML
when required.
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time. The
idea is to provide the 10k data as alternative layer to the osm data at some
point, and switching to a windows server seems somewhat archaic?
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there. but I need to
make the selected map more switch-able so I can run the original Isle of Man
historic maps as well.
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Lester Caine wrote:
http://lsces.co.uk/mapper/display_map.php is slowly getting there. but I
need to make the selected map more switch-able so I can run the original
Isle of Man historic maps as well.
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eventually be obliterated by future development, on the whole the road system
in London for example has simply evolved and expanded so all that is needed is
to know when a road first appeared? No clutter as such, just currently missing
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appropriate.
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IE8 anyway ... it
was installing it that cause all the agro ... but even dropping back to IE6 now
I'm not getting anything with OSM, yet javascript and everything else seems to
be enabled correctly.
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and so provide the missing
information to link the postcode to a physical road.
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Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk]wrote:
Sent: 21 January 2011 11:41 AM
To: 'talk-gb OSM List'
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Postcode centroids
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
One thing that is absolutely clear to me is that you can't add
detail coordinate data from OS even if it does
not give real road names. THAT is at least better for looking up 'xx within a 20
mile radius' where the previous options may well have only had 50 mile accuracy.
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by an area anyway. One would not be
using the boundary of that area as that IS the wrong 'way'.
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application for OSM, so
it would be great to import this data so that Nominatim and other
searches can use it. That would supersede the current approximate
lookup based on FreeThePostcode.
That is - I believe - where the EX13 7## data actually came from.
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Anybody know if there is an option to select mile display in an
openrouteservice.org url. I've got everything else working nicely, but now I
need to get it displaying the distance in miles ;)
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discrepancies, but some OS names ARE wrong
compared to the ground details. Have we got a way of flagging the name:os so
that we can identify these and flag them as 'different' rather than 'missing'
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of the Cotswolds.
A lot of the 'missing' roads are simply where a name is misspelt, or a section
has not kept the name when someone split it. I'm left with the -'s- problem and
some roads which I know are right on OSM ( hence the question about flagging
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and I wonder how
many of the remaining matches would be made if these were simply stripped before
comparing?
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railway and the track is slowly working it's way
up the old abandoned line ... But a part that may be useful in the UK is cleaner
identification of preserved over main line railway stations?
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that the account was only set up 5 minutes before would
suggest an newbie editor.
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on the ground, but in
many cases the names ARE there and it is just a matter of getting the compare
process to mae the connection. SO there is little incentive to make changes
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for a number of those :)
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
Yours for £20.
Or review for free?
http://www.canalmaps.net/A702.htm
The book is on google along with some related documents ...
As an aside, is there an equivalent to the National Library of Scotland archive?
http://geo.nls.uk/
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and what do you call places where they make cider/perry?
The back yard ;) ... although the location of active cider presses would be
another useful addition.
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, but user 80n seems to be
contaminating a large sway of the country so it seems to me we need to 'start at
the top' and if these users confirm that there work has to be redone, then we
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the rest anyway. Just the top couple which impact a substantial area and
one decline which has a chunk of work locally but not to difficult to redo.
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Took a little time to tidy up a few nodes hile I was reviewing things, but while
the update said it had saved, it's showing as still editing despite having
logged back out ... what happens to hanging edits nowadays?
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Michael Collinson wrote:
Good point Andy. I cannot find a link though?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL
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OK how many of you are having trouble editing for more than 10 minutes?
I've lost as much work as I've done this evening with potlach just freezing :(
I had the same problem at the weekend, but put it down to finger trouble, know I
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more time
tomorrow night.
Just pissed me off that I'd fixed the same block twice, but not managed to save
any of the work :(
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mins tidying up an area while I'm waiting for something else to finish is
time usefully spent, but fire-fighting why something random is happening takes a
lot longer :(
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I know what areas of data I am working on.
OK Just crashed it again ... but having done at least a couple of hours work and
saved MOST of it.
So to log current state ...
Flash area just went grey
Bottom line has Transfering data from ecn.t0.tiles.virtualearth.net
Dave Stubbs wrote:
On 11 Jan 2012 22:08, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Lester Caine wrote:
I know what areas of data I am working on.
OK Just crashed it again ... but having done at least a couple of hours work
and saved MOST of it.
So to log
they are going to jump, but I don't see any
reason why they do not simply 'free up' the block on existing history and then
walk away if the want to?
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back, and I see that the tag does seem to have been accepted
now? This is probably another set of data that is better as a secondary layer
with other contact information.
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OK how do I draw the shape for an island in the middle of a lake ...
I seem to recall something about getting the inner and outer paths running in
the correct direction?
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power that map).
Is there any conflict adding a link to http://openplaques.org/people/413 and the
relevant plaque. We might also be able to convert them to OSM ;)
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. One of these days I will improve the catalogue of what I've got
available. Getting the material scanned commercially may be an option, but I
think that taking a little more care and being able to rescan when material when
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thereafter.
Definitely ...
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are looking at the license flags on that area? Certainly all the
'problems' to the East just want tagging as clean ...
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being licensed, that is Royal Mail managed data, but since
the street name data is freely distributed, a proper codepoint what includes the
street name is very much open source. We just have to add the right names
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separate nodes is just painfully slow :(
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away from the road.
I've not been, but if JOSM has sorted the problem I'll give it a go ;)
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Britain - OS One Inch, 1955-61
are mirroring OSM nicely ...
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. Adding tags for
sidewalk, cycletrack and other details such as barriers between carriageways is
something that should just happen automatically from the real mapped features?
Not something that needs to be created manually ignoring the features themselves ...
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and I certainly think
it's worth tagging when it happens as the alternative routes are miles!
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the
website, but could not find any physical addresses listed ;)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr still irritates when I'm adding
addresses for business premises ...
addr:unit could fit your use ...
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There is no 'definition' of the gaps between postcodes until perhaps a new
building is added. This is one of the reasons that the National Land and
Property Gazetteer uses it's on references numbers for streets and properties
and postcodes - when recorded - are buried in the fine detail.
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of where I am heading :)
Of cause being able to click on a 'ward' and show the councillors will have to
come later ...
Currently the site just has a list of streets for each, so it will be nice to
know if they are ALL on OSM ...
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? If I just replace
all the .prj files with the 'new' one all the layers will line up?
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be placed the right physical distance from any road
that they link to with the correct link to the main way.
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source.
What gets a little confusing is that the results will only contain the full
postcode if it's been added to an address, otherwise you may get results from
several postcodes in highly populated areas. Once the data is transferred to
addresses, only those addresses appear.
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? Until there are actual targets,
anything in the general area can be useful.
SO listing 'exact match' then any possible secondary hits is a good starting
point?
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