Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

2023-09-15 Thread Paul Norman
They have edited it back with https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141281494. I've left a changeset discussion comment asking why, and asking for a link to the required documentation and consultation. On 2023-09-14 12:36 a.m., Cj Malone wrote: On Tue, 2023-09-12 at 15:06 +0200,

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing State of the Map 2024: Join us in Nairobi and online on 6-8 September 2024!

2023-08-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 2023-08-14 10:56 a.m., Federica Gaspari wrote: Following the good feedback for State of the Map 2022 Firenze, the upcoming State of the Map 2024 will once again be held in a hybrid format. Building on the valuable lessons and experiences from the previous events, the SotM Organising

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement: OpenAirportMap

2023-02-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 2023-02-21 12:52 a.m., Stephan Knauss wrote: I wonder how you implemented the map access. After hopping to the second airport i am receiving status 429 from tile.openstreetmap.org. I have not browsed around the OSM map before, so I wonder how many requests you are doing to trigger here a

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.7.0

2023-01-10 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v5.7.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include -Unpaved roads are now indicated on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming downtime on 2022-01-22

2022-12-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 2022-12-23 12:11 p.m., Paul Norman wrote: Dear OpenStreetMappers, On Sunday January 22nd 2022 between 10:00 and 15:00 UTC/GMT the API database servers will be unavailable due to maintenance. You can see this in your local time zone at https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock

[OSM-talk] Upcoming downtime on 2022-01-22

2022-12-23 Thread Paul Norman
Dear OpenStreetMappers, On Sunday January 22nd 2022 between 10:00 and 15:00 UTC/GMT the API database servers will be unavailable due to maintenance. You can see this in your local time zone at

Re: [talk-au] OSM Attribution Q

2022-08-14 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2022-08-14 3:23 a.m., Bob Cameron wrote: I likely have this wrong, but worth a question. Looking at petrolspy.com.au website for Theodore Qld and note that the sport and rec ground shows a remarkable similarity to the changes/updates I did 10 months ago, right down to the service road

Re: [talk-au] Multiple web sites linked to car yard

2022-07-28 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2022-07-28 4:22 p.m., Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I saw something similar a little while back when clearing Notes. Same physical premises had 2 businesses operating out of it, one as general scrap metal & the other a car wrecker, but two different names, phone numbers & websites. OK or

Re: [talk-au] Multiple web sites linked to car yard

2022-07-28 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2022-07-28 12:29 a.m., nwastra wrote: This mapper has added about a dozen similar businesses to the same car wrecker yard. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/freecarpickup/history#map=19/-33.93048/150.99878 I assume this is ok as they are linked to the same physical location. It's not okay

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

2021-10-28 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2021-10-28 8:05 p.m., osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: If it exists on the ground, it gets mapped. If there is no legal access, that's access=no or access=private. If it's a path that has been created by traffic where it's not officially meant to go, it's informal=yes. Yep, this

Re: [Talk-us] Coconino National Forest boundary isn't rendering anymore?

2020-07-15 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-us
On 2020-07-15 3:00 p.m., Paul White wrote: Does anybody know why the Coconino National Forest doesn't render on osm.org anymore? I don't see any recent changes that would've messed anything up but it's gone. I also noticed that the Klamath National Forest is gone, as well. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-07-01 3:28 p.m., Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 1. Jul 2020, at 23:26, Paul Norman via talk wrote: In general, work_mem=128GB is good with most styles. Paul, he wrote he had 32GB of RAM, should one assign more work_mem than there physically is on the machine? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

2020-07-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-07-01 1:42 p.m., Frederik Ramm wrote: + I have seen a couple of different postgresql config suggestions. Is there a one-size fits all or should I tailor it more to my server's configuration. Most configs you see will be for earlier Postgres versions and hence not necessarily valid for

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.0.0

2020-03-19 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2020-03-19 1:18 a.m., Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: On 19.03.20 02:07, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: All style users who upgrade to v5.0.0 should re-import the rendering database so that the changes to lua transformations will take effect. As I'm running a "render as many styles as possible"

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.0.0

2020-03-18 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v5.0.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - An update to Lua tag transforms,

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.22.0

2019-08-27 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v4.22.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Shop label fixes and use

Re: [Talk-us] Request for review of plan for scripted edit

2019-08-08 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-us
Given the low numbers of 7-digit numbers I recommend correcting them manually rather than writing code to do it.On Aug 8, 2019 2:02 PM, Alex Hennings wrote:Fixed: references -> relations.Noted: "False impression of data freshness". I hadn't considered this and I would like more opinions.Regarding

Re: [Talk-us] What is the meaning of hgv:national_network=yes/terminal_access?

2019-08-05 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-us
On 2019-08-04 7:56 a.m., Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I've found this undocumented tag, used 130,000 times, almost exclusively in the USA. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/hgv%3Anational_network#overview Values: yes 86.56% terminal_access 13.37% I thought it might be imported from Tiger,

Re: [talk-au] Ways to map boundaries that won't go into OSM

2019-07-01 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-au
On 2019-06-16 10:26 p.m., Ben Kelley wrote: Hi. A project I have been thinking about for a while is creating a map of Anglican (church) parish boundaries in Australia. In some sense these are like admin boundaries, but the source of the boundary is not easily verifiable. While the resulting

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] OSMF Board face-to face meeting: Suggest the topics and issues that matter to you

2019-05-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 2019-05-09 3:48 a.m., Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 09 May 2019, Dorothea Kazazi wrote: The OSMF Board is going to have a face-to-face meeting in Brussels later in May for strategy and planning and you can suggest the topics and issues that matter to you:

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.21.0

2019-05-01 Thread Paul Norman via talk
Dear all, Today, v4.21.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Removed unused

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2019-04-30 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-ca
The sources of the data are different in different regions, as well as the existing communities. A Canada-wide process won't work when each import is going to vary.On Apr 27, 2019 1:40 PM, john whelan wrote:We now have three sources of data with the correct licensing.I'm proposing that I amend

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Thread Paul Norman via talk
JOSM has also done the same, and gone farther with creating new tags on its issue tracker.Developing an editor requires making decisions and having opinions on OSM tagging. This in turn means getting it wrong sometimes.On Apr 7, 2019 5:43 AM, John Whelan wrote: I note that the matter has been

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

2019-03-21 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-us
As a maintainer of some of the projects listed, I find that you're misrepresenting the situation. On 2019-03-08 11:25 a.m., Kevin Kenny wrote: I've sounded out the maintainers of various of the OSM software, and get different assessments. osm2pgsql - Actively hostile to supporting what I need,

Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import

2019-03-15 Thread Paul Norman via Talk-ca
On 2019-03-15 9:07 a.m., Andrew Lester wrote: I disagree. Silence won't solve anything. I'm speaking here as a local BC mapper, and I strongly disagree with these recent imports. I'm also a BC mapper, and have only seen the consultation happen over Ontario, not BC.

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-02-28 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2019-02-28 2:35 p.m., Richard Fairhurst wrote: In recent years some OSM data consumers and "OSM as a service" providers have begun to put the credit to OpenStreetMap behind an click-through 'About', 'Credits', 'Legal' or '(i)' link. Examples:

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Thread Paul Norman via talk
On 2019-02-26 6:05 a.m., Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, when I first read about this planned edit, I was critical too; I thought, "ah, another eager youngster wanting to make the world a more secure place by telling everyone else how they ought to conduct their business". But if I haven't totally

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

2019-01-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2019-01-10 10:19 a.m., Christoph Hormann wrote: Since it is on the OSM wiki and there is no statement indicating otherwise does this mean we can start improving the guidelines now?;-) If you can edit them to be closer to the text approved by the OSMF board ;) We just discussed this

Re: [OSM-talk] Help - how to get rid of wrong image in wiki?

2018-12-19 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-12-19 11:25 p.m., Maarten Deen wrote: And the image is not entirely wrong, it's an example of a reversible oneway street. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lions_Gate_Bridge The Lions Gate Bridge and Stanley Park causeway are not one-way. The middle lane switches direction, but there is

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence for Sentinel Satellite images

2018-12-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-12-17 11:13 a.m., John Whelan wrote: My understanding was a benediction by the Legal Working Group can be taken as the highest "official" approval although I understand there is a small backlog of licenses awaiting. The LWG has not historically looked at data licences. There have a

Re: [OSM-talk] Distribution of OSM ids could be much more useful!

2018-11-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-25 5:50 AM, Victor Shcherb wrote: What do you think? It would be terrible for most software that I am aware of that can process the full planet. Current assumptions about density would be broken, vastly inflating memory usage and slowing down processing. The benefits aren't

Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple errors in the same location

2018-11-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-21 2:29 PM, Jem wrote: > It is a CanVec import from 4 years ago Is there subtext to this? I saw the weird natural=wood CanVec features yesterday (polys cut up into quadtrees) and wondered about its validity. Is the CanVec import notable for being problematic? Yes. CanVec is built

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql diff application with filtered OSM data

2018-11-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-11 7:53 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: After thinking about this, I realised that I don't really want to update _all_ the data that often. The only thing I need to update on a weekly basis is the footpaths (I'm not so bothered if say the roads, or the pubs are a year out of date - as

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql diff application with filtered OSM data

2018-11-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-11-08 6:34 AM, Nick Whitelegg wrote: At the moment I download full planet extracts about every 6 months. However, due to the limitations of my server, I filter out (with osmosis) a lot of stuff I don't need so that I am basically left with roads, footpaths, natural features, water

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

2018-08-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-08-10 1:06 PM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM wrote: Learning the real world use cases and where the proper technological solutions work and if there really genuinely are places where dynamic generation is just not possible. This seems totally in line with things done in the past and should

Re: [OSM-talk] API a lot slower?

2018-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-07-18 11:04 AM, Andrew Hain wrote: Will there be a local team or does whatever can’t be done remotely need a visit? For the install there will be two people traveling with the equipment, and I've reached out to some locals that were recommended. We should have enough people to get it

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-07-10 2:00 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: ESRI's free maps can be accessed as server-side tiles. See Leaflet-providers for some examples: https://leaflet-extras.github.io/leaflet-providers/preview/ I'm not sure of the licence restrictions which apply to them, or any rate limits. But, from a

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-10 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-07-10 12:30 PM, Mark Goodge wrote: I think it's a positive. One of the biggest issues with large-scale use of OSM is that OSM's own tile server isn't suited for high-volume use, but most of the alternative tile servers are rate-limited and require payment for larger volumes. If

Re: [OSM-talk] WMF: "Interactive maps, now in your language"

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-29 3:38 AM, Max wrote: That is inflating the OSM database with something that Wikidata has solved already in a much better way. Why would someone from wikimedia recommend to create a less mentainable version of their database? Wikidata has 412978 "thoroughfare" items. OSM has 121

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.12.1

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v4.12.1 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. The sole change is dropping rendering of the

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto design

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-29 2:48 AM, James wrote: So what is intended to replace CartoCSS? Vector tiles? CartoCSS is a styling language, vector tiles is an architecture choice. You can use CartoCSS with vector tiles, as the Cycle Map and Transport Map layers on osm.org do, or you can use CartoCSS with

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto design

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
I've been involved in OpenStreetMap Carto less and less, partially because I work with CartoCSS setups enough for work. On 2018-06-29 2:06 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: And you are wrong that "nobody seems to be even noticing" complexity of the roads code. At least Lucas, Paul and me have a

[Talk-ca] Terminating British Columbia Mosaic imagery

2018-06-13 Thread Paul Norman
I will be shutting down the "British Columbia Mosaic" imagery in the near or medium future. I set this up in about 2011, and the system has been running without many updates since then. When I started hosting it, we had access to Bing and Yahoo. Between the two of them, we had acceptable for

Re: [Talk-us] Slack: Do we need an Alternative (was Planning an import in Price George...)

2018-06-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-09 1:19 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Apart from the reasons you mentioned, having a record is also an important factor. Anything that has gone on on these mailing lists is practically archived forever and for all to see This is also a good reason to ask questions on something other than

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License clarification

2018-06-07 Thread Paul Norman
On 2018-06-07 12:19 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: The idea that you can produce a data set using both OSM and non-OSM data in a meaningful way without there being either a collective or a derivative database seems fundamentally at odds with the basic concept of the ODbL. The only way this could

[OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-24 Thread Paul Norman
As part of my Wikimedia Foundation work, I'm working on labeling in multiple languages using OSM data. We've run into an issue, and it's not clear how to best solve it. It is sometimes recommended that when you add a name in another language you also indicate the name in the local language by

Re: [Diversity-talk] Idea: Quarterly Projects for a traditionally underrepresented topic(s)/groups?

2018-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/26/2018 1:24 PM, Rory McCann wrote: Any ideas for topics? Some ideas - Regional languages. Is there a regional language you speak? Make sure that you're adding it to the map when objects have a name in that language. Unfortunately, this isn't great for a global project because not

Re: [OSM-talk] Help me build an OSM Community Index

2018-04-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/31/2018 5:25 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: a `.geojson` file to describe where the region where it is active.  (multiple resources can share a .geojson file) I'm having trouble figuring out what a sensible region is for the meetups in Vancouver and the Pacific Northwest. Our meetups are

Re: [Diversity-talk] Who Maps The World

2018-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/18/2018 3:23 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Paul, A kindergarten is a school, not a child-care center. They are two fundamentally different things. Also, child-care centers serve a range of ages, not just 5-year-olds. I, too, tried to find a real child-care tag a few months ago. There is

Re: [Diversity-talk] Who Maps The World

2018-03-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/14/2018 6:47 PM, alyssa wright wrote: Hi all, City Lab article below on gender disparity in OSM. I actually think things have evolved and are more nuanced then ever before. Wondering if I am being naive. Yes - part of the thesis of the article is based around the claims of what gets

Re: [Talk-GB] Petrol stations again

2018-03-08 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/8/2018 1:28 PM, SK53 wrote: Remarks about individual items to be added which I have examined (mainly, I thin, for Ilya's benefit): Were the 8 errors from the full set of 400, or a subsample of them? ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Help fight advertising

2018-03-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/2/2018 9:40 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: Sorry for the late posting - I've been working on another project for the past few days. Frederik wrote "You will be surprised about the breadth of marketing blurb that has already crept into OSM." Unfortunately no, I'm not surprised. Marketing is a

Re: [Diversity-talk] Code of Conduct & Moderation for this list

2018-03-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/28/2018 2:44 AM, Rory McCann wrote: Hi all, To follow up on the phone call, and waiting a little bit for people to join.  I think this list should have a Code of Conduct. I propose something like Geek Feminism's one. Thoughts?

Re: [Talk-us] Satus CDP

2018-02-26 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/26/2018 4:59 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: In the middle of the Yakama Nation Indian Reservation sits Satus [1] that as far as I know only exists in some Census bureaucrat world. Asking around here I haven't found anyone familiar with the area. Wikipedia [2] doesn't help much either. I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Is this legal to what philly.com is doing?

2018-02-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/22/2018 8:03 PM, James Mast wrote: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/will-republicans-impeach-pennsylvania-supreme-court-justices-20180222.html (ignore what the article is about) Just happen to see a thumbnail and clicked on the article since I noticed the OSM base map. 

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

2018-01-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/17/2018 9:14 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: What can I as a map editor do to keep these data files to a reasonable size without compromising  data quality? I mean in the sense, - take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of themselves? I could think of the following three

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Interesting use case of combining OSM with proprietary data

2018-01-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/11/2018 7:30 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: My interpretation of the ODbL here is that this is a share-alike case that would require the combined data sources to be made available. But you could probably also look at it differently. I would like to hear opinions on this. In particular if

Re: [Talk-us] Leonia, NJ doesn't want you to navigate through

2018-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/8/2018 10:53 AM, Jack Burke wrote: I'll leave it to others to decide what, if anything, we should do about this. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/05/leonia-streets-off-navigational-apps/ If they actually go through with it, access=destination on the applicable streets, or

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Shell fuel stations

2017-11-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/3/2017 10:51 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote: Philip, the shell.co.uk website gives the same opening hours for the Branting Hill station as the source dataset. Basically, everything in the dataset is the same, except for locations, which have been improved by the Navads team. What percentage of

Re: [Talk-in] How to get a bot account to upload translated strings for OSM?

2017-10-17 Thread Paul Norman
Are you generating strings for the software which runs openstreetmap.org, or translating place names in OpenStreetMap data? If the latter, you shouldn't upload them. The name:* tags in OSM are for names in different languages, not for translations of names to different languages. On

Re: [Talk-us] Texas - redacted roads.

2017-10-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/12/2017 6:54 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Should we (in OSM) put what the user will probably search for, the correect (hypothetically) Redwil or should we put the "ground truth" (REED WILL) which is what the user will see if he acually ever makes it to that location. Although this has

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

2017-10-01 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/1/2017 5:39 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: Lastly, if the coordinates are different, you may not copy it from OSM to Wikidata because of the difference in the license. Just for clarity and anyone reading the archives later, copying from Wikidata to OSM is also a problem because Wikidata

[OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-19 Thread Paul Norman
to map (and potentially also how to map it) and who receives money in exchange. We define other organised mapping (or editing) as any editing that is also steered by a third party, but where no money is paid. The survey is available at https://osm-dwg.limequery.org/741554 -- Paul Norman For the OSM

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.3.0

2017-09-16 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v4.3.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Moving ford and emergency phone to a new tagging scheme - Moving natural=tree to higher zoom level (z18+) - Changing embassy color to brown -

Re: [Talk-us] guidelines regarding roads access

2017-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/14/2017 12:23 AM, David Wisbey wrote: I limit the use of "residential" to typical residential city or town government-maintained streets. I use "living street" for residential streets that are completely open to the public but not maintained by the local or state government; they

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Paul Norman
of data illegally copied data, but we need to remove it in the end, regardless of if we want to. Paul Norman For the OSMF Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

2017-08-27 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/27/2017 7:26 AM, john whelan wrote: I would suggest that any street names added by chdr in Canada were more than likely derived from CANVEC sources What makes you believe this to be so? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] natural=* and landuse=* multipolygons at the urban interface

2017-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/13/2017 4:34 PM, Steve Friedl wrote: You’re right that splitting this up is the right approach, because I don’t believe having all this as one huge relation was every the right thing to do as I cannot see how the related-ness of all the scrub patches in a very wide area is useful

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v3.3.0 release

2017-05-10 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.3.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. This may not be immediately rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers, but that is up to the OSM sysadmin team, not the openstreetmap-carto maintainers. Changes

Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Tree Import

2017-05-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/27/2017 12:26 PM, Brian Prangle wrote: Apart from some posts about the problems with email notifications of changeset discussions, there has been nothing to indicate where I take this import. I guess that's because the initative is really down to me. I've annotated Harry's Import wiki

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.2.0

2017-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.20 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Render aeroway terminal buildings like other buildings - Removed rendering of landuse=farm - Added rendering for arts centre, fitness centre, plant

[Talk-GB] Local chapter application by OpenStreetMap United Kingdom

2017-04-16 Thread Paul Norman
. More information on local chapters can be found at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/FAQ Paul Norman OpenStreetMap Foundation Name & Registered Office: Openstreetmap Foundation 132 Maney Hill Road Sutton Coldfield B72 1JU United Kingdom A company limited by guarantee, regist

[OSM-talk-ie] Local chapter application by OpenStreetMap United Kingdom

2017-04-16 Thread Paul Norman
://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/Template_agreement. More information on local chapters can be found at http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Local_Chapters/FAQ Paul Norman OpenStreetMap Foundation Name & Registered Office: Openstreetmap Foundation 132 Maney Hill Road Sutton Coldfield B72

Re: [Talk-in] license compatibility of various data sources for india

2017-04-06 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/5/2017 9:50 PM, Srihari Thalla wrote: But DataMeet has only 5 states :-/ What about this repo - https://github.com/justinelliotmeyers/official_india_2011_village_boundary_lines Does it contain all of them? There doesn't seem to be any license there, so they're unusable without that.

Re: [Talk-in] How to get all missing street names for chennai?

2017-04-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/3/2017 12:25 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: Offlate, I am facing strange unicode issues with my script which used to work, but will soon get it fixed. I am thinking of trying TensorFlow or equivalent ML models to provide translation suggestions, aside from google translate. Wikidata

Re: [Talk-us] Sabotage or a really bad bot?

2017-04-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 4/2/2017 6:26 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: I came across a really weird situation while doing a Maproulette change. In Rustberg, a small town in rural Virginia (http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/37.2772/-79.1011), almost every driveway has been named after

[Talk-ca] Vancouver mappy hour

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Norman
Starting this year, we're aiming to have monthly mappy hours in Vancouver, on the 4th Friday of each month. The next one is Friday March 24th, near Metrotown at 6:30 PM at the Firefighters' Public House. This is convenient to transit Full details are at

Re: [Talk-ko] Use of questionable imagery in Korea

2017-02-26 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/25/2017 2:47 AM, Paul Norman wrote: On 2/23/2017 12:00 PM, Simon Poole wrote: while not speaking for the DWG, I suspect that due to the touchy nature of this specific source we will want to redact the edits (which removes them from history too) so likely it doesn't make sense to revert

Re: [Talk-ko] Use of questionable imagery in Korea

2017-02-25 Thread Paul Norman
, In OpenStreetMap you can't copy from copyrighted maps without permission. This includes vworld, which you did here. Continuing to copy like this could lead to a permanent block. Unfortunately I have to remove this copied data. Paul Norman For the OpenStreetMap Data Working Group

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-17 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/16/2017 2:51 AM, Yves wrote: Is there an example where the community has cleaned up the Corine multi polygons instead of starting from scratch? I've done some Corine cleanup, mainly consisting of deleting obviously wrong data. Where I've remapped it's been faster to delete it and start

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/15/2017 2:51 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: There is a comparison map where you can see the changes: https://osmium.osm2pgsql.paulnorman.ca There are some notable holes, for example in the woods of Scandinavia. It would be great if they are gone by the time we switch the software. Just to

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto database schema change

2017-01-30 Thread Paul Norman
One of the long-running OpenStreetMap Carto projects has been a database schema change, https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2533. Included in this are - database schema change; - disjoint area handling; - different tag columns; and - multipolygon handling changes This

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.1.0

2017-01-28 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.1.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Added coffee shop rendering - Added health clinic rendering - Adjusted place label typography - Road shield rendering improvements - Internal code

Re: [Talk-us] U.S.-Mexico border fence update

2017-01-24 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/24/2017 11:24 AM, Michael Corey wrote: Thanks, folks, these are good suggestions. I think posting the map in Github is a good first step -- we first have to iron our our licensing so it's compatible with OSM and with our own licenses. Just to note, if it's based on the OSM border data,

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-24 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 3:11 PM, Paul Norman wrote: On 1/20/2017 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote: Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the same source and the same licence. I think I might have included one pitch sport soccer. The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 9:06 AM, James wrote: So if I understand correctly Paul, CC0 or any other license would require permission as a bypass to the license, even though it would be considered compatible with ODBL. No. CC0 is compatible with the ODbL, so you can just go ahead and use the data*,

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 9:48 AM, James wrote: So why is this not considered the exact same as OGL-CA, which is considered compatible with ODBL? As mentioned previously, the OGL-CA is compatible because the Federal government has said so for their data. The Federal government's statement only applies

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 7:07 AM, John Marshall wrote: Paul, So once we get a letter from the City of Ottawa, are we good to add the buildings as per the wiki? It depends what they say in their reply. If they say no, then we can't use their data. If we have a suitable reply, then we are able to legally

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 4:34 PM, john whelan wrote: What you have is an interpretation of the Federal Government license. From my background in the civil service my understanding is for a statement it would have to be over a minister's signature or by act of parliament. No one else has the authority

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 3:48 PM, James wrote: It is, the thing they changed was federal references to municipal ones. Which is why i'm confused the license is "not compatible" We have a statement from the Federal government for their data under their license. The Federal government cannot make a

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote: Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the same source and the same licence. I think I might have included one pitch sport soccer. The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I must confess taken from their open data

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 3:22 PM, James wrote: Old link to an old wiki. Please see: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Permission That says Ottawa gave some data to Stats Canada in 2016, not that their data can be reused under the ODbL. I've sent an email to them asking

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 12:40 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) wrote: Hello everyone, Big news, the City of Ottawa has released the footprint of over 325,000 buildings on their open data portal in support to the project with Statistics Canada and the OSM community. We are very grateful for the amazing

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] destination:street

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/19/2017 5:00 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Looking at a random one, http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34154734 / http://openstreetcam.org/details/10767/4194 — I think in the US we would just map this as destination=Carman Road;Iriquois and destination:ref=1 That is how it would be

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-06 Thread Paul Norman
, their opinions aren't representing the DWG. Paul Norman For the Data Working Group ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Square (Place, Platz,Piazza, Plaza, …)

2017-01-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/2/2017 4:31 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: If you mean default style (osm-carto), it's already appointed for rendering =} : https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2203 It's wrong to say it's "appointed" for rendering. There's an issue open requesting it be rendered, but

Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct

2016-12-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/22/2016 3:21 PM, James wrote: As pnorman has said in the past( https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2016-September/007260.html): / Uploaded in small enough parts that the changesets make sense. This means never uploading more than 50k objects at once, and typically fewer

Re: [Talk-us] manifesto

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/30/2016 9:30 AM, mart...@openstreetmap.us wrote: It is also not too late to become a candidate for the board elections. Let us know at bo...@openstreetmap.us if you have any questions. The wiki says nominations closed on the 27th, and candidates needed to

Re: [Talk-us] Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest (landuse=forest and US National forests again)

2016-11-29 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/29/2016 7:14 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: All I know of the area is"lots of parts of it do have lots of trees", but does the landuse=forest assignment make sense on the National Forest boundary, or should it be on the forested areas within? I mention this here rather because I'm sure there

Re: [Talk-us] Fresno Parcels Deletion proposal

2016-11-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/26/2016 2:43 PM, Brian M Hamlin wrote: Hi All - people are invited to see a blog post on the topic of Fresno County landuse=residential legal records, aka PARCEL. You can find the blog address in my signature. thanks very much I've long supported cleaning up the Fresno import

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