Re: [Talk-ca] Proposal to tag Yonge Street in Toronto and York Region as Primary

2020-07-17 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Maybe we look at volume and connectivity to higher orders of road and/or connectivity to other municipalities as the criteria? In some areas these will also happen to be former provincial highways (ex: parts of former Hwy 7, parts of former Hwy 10/Hurontario, Main St (Hamilton), etc.) while

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposal to tag Yonge Street in Toronto and York Region as Primary

2020-07-16 Thread Kevin Farrugia
t; > -- > > > > Andrew > Student > > > On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 08:31:48 p.m. EDT, Kevin Farrugia < > kevinfarru...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hey Andrew, > > I'm in agreement with Justin. I think it's too urban a road, with urban > speed li

Re: [Talk-ca] Proposal to tag Yonge Street in Toronto and York Region as Primary

2020-07-16 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hey Andrew, I'm in agreement with Justin. I think it's too urban a road, with urban speed limits along almost its entire length and many traffic lights. I definitely wouldn't consider the part of Yonge through downtown Toronto (or most of Toronto for that matter) to be Primary, with truck

Re: [Talk-ca] NRCan lakes

2020-07-08 Thread Kevin Farrugia
I wouldn't worry about hoping the NRCan stuff is up to date. They're based on data may/may not have been updated since the paper maps were printed in the 70s/80s/90s and all aerial imagery that's in OSM would be newer than that. The National Hydro Network and National Road Network (based on

Re: [Talk-ca] can I submit road data?

2020-07-07 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hey Jason, Imports are quite the pain to try and do - there's a whole process in place now to do them. It stems from the experience in the States of an import more than a decade ago of the TIGER data (from the Census Bureau) that is still being fixed after pretty large amounts of time working

Re: [Talk-ca] WikiProject Canada Post - franchise assessment

2020-06-16 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Canada Post is a Crown Corporation so it kind of operates in its own world even though it's subsidised and owned by the government. I don't think the open government directive applied across all Crown ABCs but to the civil service portion. We're not doing an import of post offices in the actual

Re: [Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

2020-04-03 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Correct - it's a municipal bylaw thing. For example, Burlington explicitly allows bikes on sidewalks except downtown, while next door in Oakville riding on sidewalks isn't allowed anywhere. Brampton allows bikes on sidewalks if the wheel size is less than a certain size so that kids can legally

Re: [Talk-ca] Postcodes in Canada

2019-10-02 Thread Kevin Farrugia
I don't want to rain on the postal code party, and maybe I'm a little jaded from using the data, but I use the Postal Code Conversion File (PCCF) from Statistics Canada (who get it from Canada Post) at work. In general I would say that the postal code points are in mediocre shape. Some things

Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada

2019-10-01 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hi Eric, Welcome to OpenStreetMap! It's also great that you're able to provide so much imagery to Mapillary. Are there certain areas of Ontario that are a priority or certain attributes that are most important to your routing? For example, maybe Stouffville is in general a big issue for you or

Re: [Talk-ca] Open Data for Airdrie AB

2019-04-22 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hi Joshua, The national data that gets mentioned here is actually municipal data rolled up into one federated Federal dataset to avoid licensing issues since the federal license has been approved by OSM. As for the national import, that's for others to update you on  --- Kevin (Kevo) On

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Kevin Farrugia
No, I'm referring to the official records of street names held by municipalities. In many cases, at least in newer developments, they seem to be abbreviated. If it's officially short form then it would be incorrect to say it's Saint. --- Kevin Farrugia On Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:08 PM Martin

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Kevin Farrugia
However, the street name is legally "St." in almost all cases, so saint is wrong. ------- Kevin Farrugia On Fri, Mar 15, 2019, 1:00 PM Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > The word is definitely Saint. St is a contraction and neither proper

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hi Jarek, I agree that of the sign has a short form for saint then it should be that way on the map too, as the sign text comes from the official records of street names. I think St. Is better with a period as it makes it less ambiguous to it being an abbreviation and it may help screen readers

Re: [Talk-ca] Ongoing Canadian building import needs to be stopped, possibly reverted

2019-01-24 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Data is currently stored in OSM by mappers this way, regardless of the source. I don't think a height or which part is needed to use the building part tags. It provides the basis for later additions should a mapper be so inclined to add it. --- Kevin Farrugia On Thu., Jan. 24, 2019, 11:51

Re: [Talk-ca] Trans-Canada Highway research

2018-03-26 Thread Kevin Farrugia
in Ontario and to Ontarians. ------- Kevin Farrugia On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 11:46 AM Viajero Perdido, < viajero.perdido.spam.buc...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 18-03-26 05:33 AM, talk-ca-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: > > Message: 3 > > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:33:14 + >

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

2018-02-12 Thread Kevin Farrugia
comes from has the legal name as it's usually establishing the jurisdiction that contains the road. The address ranges are derived from the road system, so it's just been copied over. -Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com On 12 February 2018 at 21:02, Bernie Connors <bernie.conn...@unb.ca&

Re: [Talk-ca] Formatting of Municipality Names

2018-02-12 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hi Matthew, Not having the "City of" or "Town of" would be preferred - the reason those are there is that the CanVec data that was imported uses administrative names in the data. When people search or say an address out loud they would use "123 Yonge St, Toronto" not "123 Yonge St, City of

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2017-03-30 Thread Kevin Farrugia
I'm picturing the car being there and > the software still having time to make a choice which road to send it down. > Why did OSRM pick to ignore the turning road given there is all the > opportunity in the world to choose it instead of the actual intersection > corner? > >

Re: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions

2017-03-30 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hey Ian, The main purpose is to stop silly or dangerous things from happening. If a user misses their turn and the engine reroutes them to turn right where they shouldn't (or U-turn) the consequences could be catastrophic. When people are following a computer's instructions they'll follow them

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-09 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Canada Post can be ignored, luckily, when it comes to municipal boundaries. statscan's municipal boundaries are handy because it's country-wide and we have a license agreement with them. I don't think the boundaries with be an import in the true sense, more of a guide that allows us to more

Re: [Talk-ca] Municipal boundaries

2017-03-07 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Morning Bjenk, Just a heads up - municipal boundaries are best of they aren't just straight up imported because they're usually done as relations. For example, we generally add roads into the boundary relationship rather than overlapping boundary and roads. Here's one I did before:

Re: [Talk-ca] destination:street

2017-01-19 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hey Martijn & everyone else, The bulk of destination:street was added beginning with Mapbox's "Mapping exit numbers and destinations in Canada", which described the methods to use [https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/220] Since then, most of us (me included) in Southern Ontario have just

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-25 Thread Kevin Farrugia
newer data it is: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:13.PNG > > The fact that a lot of buildings are missing in 12.PNG not all of which > are probably newly built idicates that these two data sets are not > meant to represent the same feature set, likely the one in 12.PNG

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Import] Ottawa Buildings & Addresses [Statistics Canada project]

2016-10-25 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Generally the planimetric CAD drawings (what Stewart posted) are/were the source for most municipal building footprints, from what I've seen in my experience. In some cases the footprints are still maintained in that format and exported out for GIS, while in other cases they're now exclusively

Re: [Talk-ca] City of Ottawa imported buildings & addresses

2016-10-17 Thread Kevin Farrugia
it's the ones I found in a couple of seconds > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Kevin Farrugia <kevinfarru...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Afternoon, >> >> I'm not part of the import, but it's been discussed over the past several >> months as a project by Stati

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa has changed its Open Data licence.

2016-09-15 Thread Kevin Farrugia
I think Stewart means make sure that the City has the rights to distribute it if the data is created by some third party. For example, some cities get their building footprints from their orthoimagery provider (they're created as part of the orthorectification process) while others digitize them

Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence compatibility: Open Data Licence for The Regional Municipality of Peel (Version 1.0)

2016-09-08 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Thanks for looking into it Stewart. Are there any examples from other exemptions that I can look at when I bring it up? On Sep 8, 2016 6:20 PM, "James" <james2...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is something Kevin Farrugia might be able to help us with > > On Sep 8, 2016

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Local community approval building & addresses in Peel region

2016-09-08 Thread Kevin Farrugia
That was addressed in James' previous email after Stewart asked about it. "Yes, there is a reason I put this documentation in .md(mark down), as it is the same format used by the wiki. So all information that is found on github will be *transferred over to the wiki once local approval is done.*"

Re: [Talk-ca] [Import] Local community approval building & addresses in Peel region

2016-09-08 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hey all, I'm the person at Peel that works with GIS data and posts data up to the open data site so I can probably answer most questions that might come up. 1) I can look into having some sort of change or special case of the licence for OSM if it is a show stopper, but the bureaucracy can move

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping exit numbers and destinations in Canada

2016-08-11 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Yes - recently bootprint, andrewpmk, and I have been changing and correcting the name tags to destination in Ontario along the 400-Series highways. If you see a ramp/link that is named, it's fine to change it over to destination or correct a problem you find with it. On Aug 11, 2016 8:38 AM,

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread Kevin Farrugia
For clarification - Canada Post only owns the postal code, the address itself (123 Main St.) is created and approved by the municipality, so it's their data and they can release that data if they wish to. So it is perfectly fine to add the street number and name, just not the postal code from an

Re: [Talk-ca] aerial imagery for missing roads

2016-06-25 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Morning everyone, I was looking at information on one of the Province's imagery programs (SWOOP: https://dr6j45jk9xcmk.cloudfront.net/documents/3609/lio-swoop2015-eng-final-2014-05-13.pdf) and I had previously assumed that the imagery was paid for by the province but the rights still owned by the

Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray - Canadian volunteer as a point of contact

2016-05-10 Thread Kevin Farrugia
According to Paul Norman in an earlier email that licence isn't compatible with OSM's. On May 10, 2016 1:47 PM, "James" wrote: > Planet has released FMM satelite imagery as CC-BY-SA > https://www.planet.com/pulse/fort-mcmurray-wildfire/ > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:40 PM,

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-22 Thread Kevin Farrugia
1) this would be inherent in the map since we'd be mapping it 2) again, this would be inherent in the map, although I wouldn't put a measurement value in the attributes as this can be calculated outside of OSM 3) would probably be a hard to get for many buildings, but there are tags around for

Re: [Talk-ca] New project update

2016-04-21 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hi Bjenk, What type of information are you looking to add about buildings? Some data belongs in OSM while other attributes might be extraneous. Other people on this list will also add their opinion on this issue I'm sure. If it's something being done en masse, it's always best to take an

Re: [Talk-ca] Bulk Import of Address Range in GTHA from Metrolinx, Second attemps

2016-02-12 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Whoa whoa whoa, I manually imported data from peel open data on my own time. By import I mean I traced out the ranged and manually typed in the addresses. Before I get in trouble... On Feb 12, 2016 7:36 AM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Hi again Mojgan — > > > … I noticed

Re: [Talk-ca] Metrolinx: OSM Golden Horseshoe Address Data

2016-01-12 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Afternoon everyone, Metrolinx is looking at adding missing address ranges - either those that were never added in or those that are in new neighbourhoods.  I believe they're also looking for problems where the street name on the highway doesn't match the address range street name due to

Re: [Talk-ca] Cycling map vs Standard map

2015-11-03 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hey Pierre, It's simply that the cycle tiles are maintained and hosted outside of OSM so they aren't updated in near real-time like the standard OSM tiles are. They're taken care of by Andy Allen and you can check out his website at http://www.thunderforest.com. You could ask him how often the

Re: [Talk-ca] Looking for competent OSM editors to improve the map on Toronto area and Toronto PATH

2015-08-12 Thread Kevin Farrugia
Hey everyone, During the winter/spring I was updating the PATH when I was frequently taking it to/from home, but I've taken a break since it's nice outside (I hope that's understandable!). The PATH is a bit of a beast to update because it's invisible to imagery and GPS and, in many parts, poorly

Re: [Talk-ca] Highway 400A

2015-07-15 Thread Kevin Farrugia
There's some conflicting stuff about this when I look into it: the last traffic volume report (2010) from MTO refers to the section as 400A ( http://www.ontario.ca/data/traffic-volume), but MNR road data labels it as Highway 11 (the MNR Ontario Road Network dataset is the source for GeoBase roads

Re: [Talk-ca] Ref tags in Ontario

2015-06-26 Thread Kevin Farrugia
. -Kevin (Kevo) -Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com wrote: AFAIK, it has never been discussed at least on this forum. I consider it as an error or even vandalism since it does not conform to acceptable rules (1) A similar

Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping Toronto's PATH entrances and ways to them

2015-05-31 Thread Kevin Farrugia
/stairs and then linking the other side of the entrance node to the sidewalks or roads so that it should be able to route between the two networks. If you have any suggestions or comments please tell us. Thanks for the heads up, Kevin (Kevo) -Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com On Thu, May

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] The great UUID debate (Was Re: 092G area)

2009-10-14 Thread Kevin Farrugia
I'd have to disagree. While there are many areas of Canada that will change little, if at all, from current data, it would be incredibly short sighted and lazy to not implement UUIDs at the initial import phase. Considering the bulk of the work is done with a script, it only makes sense to

Re: [Talk-ca] municipal government GIS data

2009-10-07 Thread Kevin Farrugia
/talk-ca -- Kevin Farrugia kevinfarru...@gmail.com Sent with BlackBerry ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] ACQTECH vs. Valdate vs. OSM User imput for CanVec HD

2009-03-12 Thread Kevin Farrugia
I think he's aware that we can't use Google Earth, nor did he ever say to. He was just saying that his GPS tracks met up with the actual path when overlayed on the Google imagery, meaning that his tracks are probably more accurate. About the waterways - I think many of the waterways (smaller

Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase Import - Another idea

2008-12-17 Thread Kevin Farrugia
rather than lines, seems like much more trouble to me than just having the lines imported. Kevin Farrugia Kevo ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

Re: [Talk-ca] StatsCan Road Network

2008-12-11 Thread Kevin Farrugia
of the government databases though, because if there was we would be able to merge the address attributes into the GeoBase/CanVec road network, and address location and network routing would be possible in the future. -Kevin Farrugia (Kevo) On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Brent Fraser bfra

Re: [Talk-ca] Why import all of Geobase/Canvec?

2008-12-11 Thread Kevin Farrugia
will especially be useful in the Canadian Shield where there are thousands and thousands of lakes, only low res imagery available, and not many people to map the areas (I'm sure it'll also be an excellent complement for hiking/off road trails too). -Kevin Farrugia (Kevo) On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Corey