Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

OK, I've redacted Halifax changes. From four to three (municipalities with license now "green.") Steve > On Jan 28, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > On 2018-01-28 09:16 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: >> Halifax also looks like it grants explicit permission. >

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

On 2018-01-28 04:21 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > > Here is the licence (Federal): > http://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada Here are some of the problems with that licence, in as many other people's word's as possible: * Like the OGL-UK, it doesn't deal with third-party rights.

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 project

I think we can politely re-factor out much stuff.  :-)   Now that we seem to have more folks looking into things, I am a bit more motivated to spend time on it. Tech writer type folks would be great to have. Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca On 2018-01-28 09:21 PM,

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

Just FYI, I am not doing an automated edit.  One at a time in JOSM. On 2018-01-28 10:23 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: On 2018-01-28 08:22 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: I am wondering if I should have them in the format of "+1 999 555 1234" or "+1-999-555-1234".    If there is no existing

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

On 2018-01-28 09:16 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > Halifax also looks like it grants explicit permission. still needs an approved import procedure and approaching LWG for approval - so it's not good to go by any means ___ Talk-ca mailing list

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

On 2018-01-28 05:19 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: > > PLEASE, I ask others to double- or triple- or multiple-check me here! Do > these (local licenses in Canada) reflect the current state of reality? We > (here in talk-ca) believe they do, we (OSM) welcome any updates directly to > the

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

On 2018-01-28 08:22 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > I am wondering if I should have them in the format of "+1 999 > 555 1234" or "+1-999-555-1234".    If there is no existing preference > adopted in OSM Canada, I will use the latter to cleanup the > non-compliant phone numbers. > > Comments? Please

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 project

I've added an introduction which sums it up. If I'm polite about it there is material in the wiki which suggest bringing building footprints using automated tools such as image scanners and imports are the way forward. Scanning hasn't been accepted by OSM and imports have their own set of

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

Halifax also looks like it grants explicit permission. Cautiously, I change Halifax to green (and remove strikeout type in Contributors), as I don't think we need LWG to "offer benediction" when the owner of the data grants explicit permission, as this link appears to do. If I'm wrong about

[Talk-ca] Fwd: Re: Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017

Forward from a very long distribution list: Hi J, So you are not aware of any Indigenous communities engaged with OSM anywhere in Canada? It would be great if OSM could be introduced to Indigenous community members so they can help define a direction.  Since you have contacts, can you help

Re: [Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

personally I prefer: RFC 3966/NANP pattern as its more commonly used for telephone numbers(less the country code(unless long distance). Especially in white pages(back in the day we had paper copies) On Jan 28, 2018 8:24 PM, "Matthew Darwin"

[Talk-ca] Preferred phone number format

Hi all, Is there a preferred phone number format we use in Canada? I noticed a bunch of phone numbers in Ottawa don't follow the recommendations in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:phone, namely: * phone=/number/ where the /number/ should be in international (ITU-T E.164

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 project

And...you're off and running (better and better). This is a process, everybody. Nobody wants to be slapping anybody around. I like the way we've been polite and patient with each other here. Regards, SteveA > On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > > Inline

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 project

Inline On 2018-01-28 07:38 PM, john whelan wrote: We have lots of people talking about this. Yay! We have a wiki page somewhere that covers some ground.  Could someone remind me of the address? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020 needs lots of

[Talk-ca] BC2020 project

We have lots of people talking about this. We have a wiki page somewhere that covers some ground. Could someone remind me of the address? Do we have anyone willing to project manage this? It is a very big project with lots of aspects and complications to it. Do we have a list of attributes

Re: [Talk-ca] Indigenous communities - Building Canada 2020 (BC2020i) - update Dec 20, 2017

Forward from a very long distribution list: Hi J, So you are not aware of any Indigenous communities engaged with OSM anywhere in Canada? It would be great if OSM could be introduced to Indigenous community members so they can help define a direction. Since you have contacts, can you help

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

Smiling here, thank you for wiki-ing fresher status in both wikis! (It's quite doable, yes?). Steve > On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:40 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > Great, seems like we have a list of 3 ok ones: > Ottawa (approved license) > Gatineau + Montreal (explicit approval

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

Great, seems like we have a list of 3 ok ones: Ottawa (approved license) Gatineau + Montreal (explicit approval provided) @James, do we have documentation as to where approval was given? Would be good to have this info on the wiki. Matthew Darwin matt...@mdarwin.ca http://www.mdarwin.ca

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020, CanVec and Licensing Issue

We were very lucky in having some of the CANVEC people involved with OSM > and they made it easy to pull the data into OSM. I'm not sure what the > current state is but I think most of the highways have now been imported. > The level of detail is different depending on the provincial source and a

Re: [Talk-ca] A bit of an ambiguity from here

There re two stages to the building project. The first is to get the building outlines. The local cities basically have this information anyway. The second step is to enrich these with tags giving the number of levels, the type, etc. I forget the full list of of attributes. Once you have that

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

LWG blog post about CC-BY https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/ as long as you have explicit permission to add data from city. It become compatible. I used "may" as in "should remain on the list because explicit permission was already obtained." On Jan 28, 2018 5:53 PM,

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

On Jan 28, 2018, at 2:39 PM, James wrote: > CC Attribution is compatible with explicit permission, so Gatineau and > Montreal may remain on the list. Oh, how I sometimes dislike the word "may!" I know, I know, our good talk-ca dialog intends to help wider understanding

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

CC Attribution is compatible with explicit permission, so Gatineau and Montreal may remain on the list. On Jan 28, 2018 5:20 PM, "OSM Volunteer stevea" wrote: > On Jan 28, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > > Steve A, > > I suspect

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020, CanVec and Licensing Issue

icense? > > Jonathan > > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.open

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

On Jan 28, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote: > Steve A, > I suspect nobody fully knows the current status of licences... So I would > agree with the action that you wrote: > every city except for Ottawa rightfully should be removed to end the > confusion, updating both

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

The legal working group offers opinions nothing else. If the only change to the licence is the city name then it should be fine to use. The problem for the cities is it takes about a year or two to get these things approved and if you can't say to the politicians it will be accepted then its

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

*Denis and I. No usb was shared, only a datafile for download. On Jan 28, 2018 3:18 PM, "john whelan" wrote: The Ottawa building outlines were identified as a possibility by Tracey at a meeting between Stats Can City of Ottawa and a few people from OSM plus a few others

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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

The low hanging fruit are the GTFS files that contain the bus stop locations. With GPS driven stop announcements for the visually impaired most in Ontario will be accurate in the GTFS file. Make that open data under the correct license and it can be imported. It's cheap to do and supports

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

Thanks. It’s good to here that the TB (Treasury Board?) are starting to provide support in that way of a kit for municipalities. It would be good to work with the municipal leaders in building capacity with those municipalities with limited capacity and resources to support open data

[Talk-ca] BC2020 perspectives

I see so many simultaneous (some unconfused, some confused) efforts in OSM's WikiProject BC2020. Here, I identify what I see from an out-of-Canada yet long-time OSM contributor perspective. While the following must necessarily remain high-level, I do not wish to over-simplify, though it can

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

The Ottawa building outlines were identified as a possibility by Tracey at a meeting between Stats Can City of Ottawa and a few people from OSM plus a few others by phone who had done something similar. Most of the enriching of OSM from Ottawa's Open Data came through their portal such as the

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

On Jan 28, 2018, at 11:29 AM, john whelan wrote: > > If you map from Bing imagery there is no issue. If you do map from Bing > please use the building_tool plugin in JOSM. We tend to find new mappers > using iD are not very accurate. Thanks, John, that's a helpful

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

Okay, I know the Open Data folks and Open Government folks in Ontario. It’s their job to connect to and support the data stewards within government who are releasing data through the Open Data Portal. The federal open government folks are holding a meeting in Toronto this Monday where the

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

If you map from Bing imagery there is no issue. If you do map from Bing please use the building_tool plugin in JOSM. We tend to find new mappers using iD are not very accurate. If the city has an Open Data file of the building outlines then it must be available under a licence that

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

not only that but sometimes they add things that make it more or less compatible(previously bc and their unique privacy or something else) On Jan 28, 2018 2:14 PM, "OSM Volunteer stevea" wrote: > On Jan 28, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Jonathan Brown wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

On Jan 28, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Jonathan Brown wrote: > If we have a description of the scope of the work involved in updating the > BC2020 OD tables, I don’t mind trying to find some senior students who could > be trained to take on this task for locations in Ontario. It

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

license is federal, cities must modify it to apply to municipal, thus creating new license On Jan 28, 2018 1:52 PM, "Jonathan Brown" wrote: > If we have a description of the scope of the work involved in updating the > BC2020 OD tables, I don’t mind trying to find some

Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status

If we have a description of the scope of the work involved in updating the BC2020 OD tables, I don’t mind trying to find some senior students who could be trained to take on this task for locations in Ontario. It would be a very small start, of course. Also, can someone explain to me the