Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread Alan Richards
Exactly. Local governments are using this license presumably because the federal government has gone to the work of creating it. The intention of all these bodies is to release the data for public use, the license is to cover them from lawsuits. In New West in fact, they are having an innovation

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread James
The only differences I could see is with the province of quebec (OGL-QC), but they publish their data under CC-BY 4.0 so we just need to ask for their approval to mark refs on contributors page (indirect reference which CC-BY requires) I think it would be logical for other provinces(excluding

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread john whelan
I'm under the impression that we are talking about two things. The first is the Open Data licence which I think we are agreed is roughly the same except that BC governments reference the BC privacy law, the Ontario ones the Ontario privacy law and the Federal Government references the Federal

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread Alan Richards
Most BC cities seem to be using a version of the OGL-BC now as well. This is similar to the OGL-CA with references to BC privacy and FOI laws, similar to the Ontario changes mentioned earlier. This business of having to get explicit permission for each dataset from each government entity is a bit

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread Blake Girardot
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:38 AM, Paul Norman wrote: > The initial answer was that the license would impose obligations on top of > the ODbL, our distribution license. This would make the data incompatible. Hi Paul, The above sounds like an interpretation of the answer, not

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-25 Thread John Marshall
Paul, The City add the the building footprints to their open data portal in order to have it add to OSM. Also the City of Ottawa uses OSM: http://data.ottawa.ca/dataset /sledding-hills Ottawa Hydro which is owned by the City uses OSM. https://hydroottawa .com/outages/info/outage-centre Let's

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-24 Thread James
The city of Ottawa has the same license as the city of Vancouver: http://vancouver.ca/your-government/open-data-catalogue.aspx#tab19099 Which seemed to have been deemed compatible, must we revert all vancouver imports as well? You have even stated that OGL-CA is compatible with ODBL in this mail

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-24 Thread James
Paul your answer is not clear. what is it that the license(ODL i'm guessing?) would impose on top of ODBL? On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:52 PM, john whelan wrote: > So since it is the same license as the Feds which you have a letter of > interpretation saying its fine with

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-24 Thread john whelan
So since it is the same license as the Feds which you have a letter of interpretation saying its fine with the exception of the Ontario Privacy laws does that mean the fed license is to be written off as well? Pity as I like my bus stops and CANVEC highways. Cheerio John On 24 January 2017 at

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-24 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 3:11 PM, Paul Norman wrote: On 1/20/2017 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote: Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the same source and the same licence. I think I might have included one pitch sport soccer. The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-23 Thread James
1. The bad reverted data will be cleaned in the import process (we know there is a few patches here and there in Ottawa), but Frammy decided to give up on the revert 2. They will be moved manually in each tile as we were doing before. They will be moved to the center of the building and merged

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-23 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2017-01-23 01:54 AM, Denis Carriere wrote: > There's been a lot of discussion on the license, however has anyone read > the documentation on the import yet? Read it? My mucky paw-prints are all over the edit history of the article and its talk page. So I know I've read it, at least. Couple of

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-23 Thread Steve Singer
On Sun, 22 Jan 2017, Stewart C. Russell wrote: On 2017-01-22 12:48 PM, James wrote: So why is this not considered the exact same as OGL-CA, which is considered compatible with ODBL? My understanding of why it's not the same: 1) The OGL-CA, due to a fault in its design, can only be used by

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Denis Carriere
There's been a lot of discussion on the license, however has anyone read the documentation on the import yet? Could the OSM Talk-CA provide any feedback on this, that way once the license is sorted out we can start immediately afterwards.

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 9:06 AM, James wrote: So if I understand correctly Paul, CC0 or any other license would require permission as a bypass to the license, even though it would be considered compatible with ODBL. No. CC0 is compatible with the ODbL, so you can just go ahead and use the data*,

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 9:48 AM, James wrote: So why is this not considered the exact same as OGL-CA, which is considered compatible with ODBL? As mentioned previously, the OGL-CA is compatible because the Federal government has said so for their data. The Federal government's statement only applies

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/22/2017 7:07 AM, John Marshall wrote: Paul, So once we get a letter from the City of Ottawa, are we good to add the buildings as per the wiki? It depends what they say in their reply. If they say no, then we can't use their data. If we have a suitable reply, then we are able to legally

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2017-01-22 12:48 PM, James wrote: > > So why is this not considered the exact same as OGL-CA, which is > considered compatible with ODBL? My understanding of why it's not the same: 1) The OGL-CA, due to a fault in its design, can only be used by the Canadian Federal Government. Contrast that

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread James
If someone actually read the introduction, it is saying exactly what Steve is saying: replacing governing bodies. This licence is based on version 2.0 of the Open Government Licence – Canada, which was developed through public consultation. The only substantive changes in this licence are to

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread Steve Singer
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017, Paul Norman wrote: On 1/20/2017 6:00 PM, James wrote: Is OGL-CA not compatible with osm? The license isn't OGL-CA. OGL-CA is the license from the Federal government, while the City of Ottawa uses the ODL. In the case of OGL-CA data it's compatible because they gave a

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread James
What I don't understand is even if there was the most open license possible, you are requiring to get an authorisation to use the data...So what's the point of having a legal group or dealing with licensing as if a restrictive copyrighted dataset that sues anyone who uses the data, if we have

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread John Marshall
Paul, So once we get a letter from the City of Ottawa, are we good to add the buildings as per the wiki? John On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:41 AM, john whelan wrote: > There is another way forward for Stats at the moment and that would be to > use the Statistics Canada

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-22 Thread john whelan
There is another way forward for Stats at the moment and that would be to use the Statistics Canada address file which is available on the Federal Government Open Data portal under the Federal Government Open Data licence. The addresses are nodes rather than building outlines but there is nothing

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread john whelan
It's to do with the way government works and is structured. What you have is an official interpretation which carries weight. Quite a lot of weight. Essentially both Canada and the UK are run by acts of parliament. However these are normally interpreted by civil servants to keep things running

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread James
Well then that would mean we couldnt use any goverment licensed data as it would be an "interpretation" of a license and not made law in a house of commons/other law making place, which is unreasonable to expect. If lawyers are consulted to judge compatibility with the license they chose to

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 4:34 PM, john whelan wrote: What you have is an interpretation of the Federal Government license. From my background in the civil service my understanding is for a statement it would have to be over a minister's signature or by act of parliament. No one else has the authority

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread john whelan
What you have is an interpretation of the Federal Government license. From my background in the civil service my understanding is for a statement it would have to be over a minister's signature or by act of parliament. No one else has the authority unless it is delegated. Cheerio John On 21

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/21/2017 3:48 PM, James wrote: It is, the thing they changed was federal references to municipal ones. Which is why i'm confused the license is "not compatible" We have a statement from the Federal government for their data under their license. The Federal government cannot make a

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread James
It is, the thing they changed was federal references to municipal ones. Which is why i'm confused the license is "not compatible" On Jan 21, 2017 6:42 PM, "john whelan" wrote: > >I kept it generic, not specifying a particular dataset. That way we'll > have a final answer

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread john whelan
>I kept it generic, not specifying a particular dataset. That way we'll have a final answer one way or the other and won't have to go back to them all the time. My understanding is the City of Ottawa one is based on the Federal Government one. Cheerio John On 21 January 2017 at 18:11, Paul

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 5:33 PM, john whelan wrote: Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the same source and the same licence. I think I might have included one pitch sport soccer. The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I must confess taken from their open data

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-21 Thread Bjenk Ellefsen
A couple of things to consider and what follows is in my name and I do not speak for StatCan: Open Data is the way Governments are going to release data to be used by the public freely. Many are working hard through consultations to further these initiatives precisely because they are the

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread James
I got Bjenk from Stats Can to get a statement from the city of Ottawa Monday to explicitly use the data in OSM. Licensing is compatible in terms of OGL-CA and ODBL, but if a statement allows the import to proceed we will get it even though is seems bureaucratic more than a legal issue Have a nice

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread john whelan
Essentially OSM is not well set up to handle these sort of issues. Normally interpretations are base on custom and practice. The wording is slightly different between the two licences. OSM decision making for local matters is normally left to local mappers. So the decision to allow the import

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread James
Is OGL-CA not compatible with osm? On Jan 20, 2017 8:17 PM, "Paul Norman" wrote: > On 1/20/2017 3:22 PM, James wrote: > > Old link to an old wiki. Please see: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario: > Ottawa/Import/Plan#Permission > > That says Ottawa gave some

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread john whelan
Did you include permission for the bus stops as well? They are from the same source and the same licence. I think I might have included one pitch sport soccer. The pitch was mapped but the sport soccer was I must confess taken from their open data source. Thanks John On 20 Jan 2017 8:17 pm,

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 3:22 PM, James wrote: Old link to an old wiki. Please see: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Permission That says Ottawa gave some data to Stats Canada in 2016, not that their data can be reused under the ODbL. I've sent an email to them asking

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread James
Thats old. Check https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Permission On Jan 20, 2017 5:45 PM, "Paul Norman" wrote: > On 1/20/2017 12:40 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > Big news, the City of Ottawa has released the

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread James
Old link to an old wiki. Please see: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Permission On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 1/20/2017 12:40 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > Big news, the City of

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread john whelan
We spent four years working with Treasury Board and Ottawa on the Open Data Licence and they took extensive consultations. Given four lawyers I'm sure one will say it isn't compatible but the feeling at Treasury Board was it is and the Ottawa license is based on the TB license. This particular

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/20/2017 12:40 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) wrote: Hello everyone, Big news, the City of Ottawa has released the footprint of over 325,000 buildings on their open data portal in support to the project with Statistics Canada and the OSM community. We are very grateful for the amazing

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread James
Found license link that works here: http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/get-know-your-city/open-data#open-data-licence-version-2-0 On Jan 20, 2017 4:55 PM, "James" wrote: > No we are not. The data license of Ottawa is compatible with ODBL, website > link is borked, that is all.

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread James
No we are not. The data license of Ottawa is compatible with ODBL, website link is borked, that is all. On Jan 20, 2017 4:50 PM, "john whelan" wrote: > We aren't talking about removing all the bus stops in Ottawa again are we? > > I thought we'd been through the licensing

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread john whelan
We aren't talking about removing all the bus stops in Ottawa again are we? I thought we'd been through the licensing issues before and for those of us without cars knowing the bus stop number is extremely useful. Thanks Cheerio John On 20 January 2017 at 16:06, Martijn van Exel

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread James
They might be updating the website, but the license is OGL-CA based: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan#Licence On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > The license link is broken, is it this one? http://ottawa.ca/en/city- >

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread Martijn van Exel
The license link is broken, is it this one? http://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/get-know-your-city/open-data#open-data-licence-version-2-0 Martijn van Exel > On Jan 20, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2017-01-20 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
Hello everyone, Big news, the City of Ottawa has released the footprint of over 325,000 buildings on their open data portal in support to the project with Statistics Canada and the OSM community. We are very grateful for the amazing collaboration with the City of Ottawa on this pilot project

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada, Launching!

2016-10-17 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
Hello, We are now live and launching! Thanks everyone for your help and let's see how this goes! http://www.statcan.gc.ca/eng/crowdsourcing Bonjour, Nous sommes en ligne! Le projet est lancé! Merci à tous pour votre aide et voyons comment ça se déroulera !

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada - Outreach launch

2016-09-14 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
Hello everyone, We are launching the outreach tomorrow. Canadians will be made aware of the project. As soon as the Webpage is live, I will add the link to the OSM Canada wiki in the section for the project. This is giving us another month to work out some details. Do not hesitate to raise

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-31 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
Hello everyone, I am back from vacation and doing my best to catch up! Things are moving fast so I will jump right into some updates: I added the project on the OSM Canada wiki page on both English and French page. I would like to add a separate page where we will document the project in

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread Adam Martin
s released a National address database, publically and free. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> There must be a way we can follow that example. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am still catching up, haha! >>>> &g

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread john whelan
; >>> >>> There must be a way we can follow that example. >>> >>> >>> >>> I am still catching up, haha! >>> >>> >>> >>> Bjenk >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* john whelan [mailto:

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread Kevin Farrugia
t; Bjenk >> >> >> >> *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* August-06-16 7:23 PM >> *To:* Laura O'Grady <la...@lauraogrady.ca> >> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>; Ellefsen, Bjenk >>

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread Adam Martin
CAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>; Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com > > > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada > > > > The postcode battle is being fought on the Open Data side. There is an > open data mailing list whose name

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-10 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
:23 PM To: Laura O'Grady <la...@lauraogrady.ca> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>; Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>; Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada The

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread Laura O'Grady
There's a form [1] requesting this data set. Not sure if posting a request will help as we know this has been going on for years. You can get the Forward Sortation Areas in a boundary file [2], which can be exported from the db. I noticed the disclaimer, "This data includes information copied

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
On the clean up side I pulled in osmconvert64 ontario.osm -b=-76,45.0,-75.7,45.5 -o=ottawa1.osm so a small chunk of ottawa. JOSM validation gave 50 errors and 3,913 warnings. The ontario map was fairly recent like yesterday I think. The file is here: http://www.jatws.org/johnw/ottawa1.zip if

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
​I understand the current intent is data.gc.ca There is actually a lot of postcode data in Ottawa adhresses as it stands especially for commercial buildings. Don't hold your breath for Canada Post and postcodes. Some attributes they would like at the moment I can't see how a mapper would map

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread Stewart C. Russell
Hi John - some great points here. > My understanding is currently he’s looking getting hold of the City of > Ottawa building outline data and making it available to OpenStreetMap > without the current license restriction. This would be wonderful. It would be ideal if the data could be placed on

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread john whelan
I think the Stats Canada project is evolving as Bjenk understands a little more about what he’d like and what we can do. My understanding is currently he’s looking getting hold of the City of Ottawa building outline data and making it available to OpenStreetMap without the current license

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-06 Thread James
Yeah, that was when I wastracing buildings manually, Gatineau and Ottawa boundaries should maybe be combined into one project as there is duplication(overlap) due to how the task manager splits tiles into nice squares On Aug 5, 2016 11:50 PM, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > On

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-05 Thread Stewart C. Russell
On 2016-08-05 11:08 PM, Laura O'Grady wrote: > I just noticed that there is a project for Ottawa in the Canadian > Tasking Manager [1] called, "#2 - Ottawa Building Update". This looks a little old - it was last used 8 months ago. It also has some unnecessary guidelines, such as adding the

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
CAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> > *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> > *Subject:* [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada > > > > We can. People at State of the map US in seattle really seemed to enjoy > how well documented

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
gt; Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada We could put it here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ottawa_Gatineau_Buildings and then link to it from: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ott

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
efsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada building=apartments should also be considered residential if not they are tagged as offices. There is going to have to be grouping of some tags for residential, commerc

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread James
d > the info as well. > > > > > > *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* August-03-16 12:50 PM > *To:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> > *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca]

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread James
:* Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> > *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> > *Subject:* [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada > > > > We can. People at State of the map US in seattle really seemed to enjoy > how well docu

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread James
are these shops and amenities >>> floating at the same address. Could we have the building and the tags >>> shops, offices, amenities attached to them? >>> >>> >>> >>> Bjenk >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* James [mailto:james2...

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread James
ing and the tags shops, >> offices, amenities attached to them? >> >> >> >> Bjenk >> >> >> >> *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* August-02-16 3:10 PM >> *To:* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> >> *Cc:* Ta

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread john whelan
Bjenk > > > > *From:* James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* August-02-16 3:10 PM > *To:* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>; Ellefsen, Bjenk > (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> > *Subje

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-03 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
Yes, that would be very useful. From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] Sent: August-02-16 3:56 PM To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread James
Not sure if this will work if you export it to JOSM but here is an overpass query that should get all the buildings and address nodes: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/hE6 On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:59 PM, john whelan wrote: > What I'm after is the osm map for the area that way

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
What I'm after is the osm map for the area that way I can load it into JOSM and search for buildings missing the tags. Are we adding building tags to amenity=place-of_worship? Thanks John On 2 August 2016 at 18:17, James wrote: > would a GeoJSON help you? I have both city

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread James
would a GeoJSON help you? I have both city limits in geoJSON format On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:59 PM, john whelan wrote: > In order to identify those buildings that need extra tags it would be > extremely useful to have a map of Ottawa / Gatineau that could be loaded > into

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
In order to identify those buildings that need extra tags it would be extremely useful to have a map of Ottawa / Gatineau that could be loaded into JOSM. The Ontario map is too big and doesn't contain Gatineau. Does anyone have a suitable cut down .OSM file? I have a web site that could host

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
Most buildings in Ottawa are wheelchair accessible do you want them tagged as such, we also have a tag for toilets:wheelchair which means States if a location has a wheelchair accessible toilet or not. I think this might be useful to map

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread john whelan
How many buildings are tagged with a building tag or is that step one tag building with the building tag and type? How do we handle a shopping mall with a building outline and a nodes for the stores? Thanks John On 2 Aug 2016 2:53 pm, "James" wrote: > There is a way to

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread James
There is a way to tag a building type Here is a list of the building types: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building#Values On Aug 2, 2016 2:48 PM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Here is what we would invite Canadians to tell us about

Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread Paul Ramsey
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) < bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote: > Here is what we would invite Canadians to tell us about buildings for OSM: > > name > Address: > >- Number >- street >- city >- postal code > > A given footprint could easily encompass

[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

2016-08-02 Thread Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
Hello everyone, Here is what we would invite Canadians to tell us about buildings for OSM: name Address: * Number * street * city * postal code levels office, shop type of access (handicap, etc.) If there is a way to categorize them as residential, non-residential that