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ot needed and it is confusing. Let's not compound the mess
that RM has made of addresses in the UK by repeating their mistakes.
No postal town in OSM addresses please.
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On 20/12/2020 14:57, Colin Smale wrote:
On 2020-12-20 15:41, Chris Hill wrote:
Addresses in OSM are not the same as Royal Mail's addresses. RM
addresses are all about their processes for delivering post to
delivery points. The postal town (Largertown in your example) is a
convenience
On 20/12/2020 15:30, ndrw wrote:
On 20/12/2020 12:45, Dave Abbott wrote:
There is a page at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/UK_Address_Mapping
which mentions "suggested tags" but there is no evidence that this is
in use. If correct I would be tagging as -
addr:housenumber=99
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Hi,
I am trying to make sure I tag addresses correctly. I am currently
trying to understand how to map in my area.
The postal addresses are like:
99 Postal Street
Smalltown
Largertown
West Yorks XY9 7GY
Smalltown
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this (or very similar) techniques to make map for temporary
events such as fairs, fêtes and festivals as well as a planned scheme of
flood defences and a mock up of a tidal barrier.
HTH
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OSM, but the locations are pretty
poorly positioned, so bad they could almost be Google Maps business
locations from a few of years ago.
I think the best we could do with this is use it as a list of places to
survey - it doesn't look good enough to import to me.
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Leccy car drivers need to know if the point is working. Apps from the charge
point suppliers and from others such as Zapmap try to keep drivers informed
about the availability and condition of the point. OSM doesn't have that info
and can't update it in real time. Some leccy cars have this live
gery and surveys can
be awkward because the sites usually want people to stay on paths to
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geodata element of such data in the past.
You need to be sure this is not the case before you use any of these
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On 16/11/2019 15:30, Henry Bush wrote:
Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural England API:
https://www.arcgis.com/home/it
eaflet-based map, maybe that's the jib for the rainy Saturday that's
coming.
Fill y'boots :-)
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not need to import imaginary
postcode centroids to the main OSM database.
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On 02/10/2019 16:55, Dave F wrote:
FYI in JOSM (latest) https wont generate a TMS URL. I had to change
the pasted URL to http & then back again. then it generated &
'ungreyed' the Okay button. Is this expected behaviour?
other open data sources such as FHRS data.
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On 02/10/2019 13:43, Russ Phillips via Talk-GB wrote:
Hi,
I'm wondering if it would be feasible and advisable to import the UK
postcode data from OS OpenData Codepoint
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w
and still a landmark of sorts.
If a shop is emptied or reused by another firm then change that one
otherwise I think we should wait for a while to see what happens.
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On 24/09/2019 14:00, Jez Nicholson wrote:
I'm a fan of shop=vacant, old_name=Thomas Cook myself
You
, but the mapper probably took the name (e.g.
Dalton Park) as the clue.
Does anyone have a better tagging scheme than farmland?
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tops I suggest you
drop an email to the council transport team. It might help them improve the
next pass of data. I did that with both Hull and East Yorks when they were
imported originally about 10 years ago. After some skepticism they did use my
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On 27/04/2019 17:18, Michael Collinson wrote:
What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two
stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall)
to leave a gap wide enough
Every changeset has a date automatically added to it, if your survey is
much earlier than the data you make the edit maybe it's worth noting the
difference.
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On 10/03/2019 21:24, Martin Wynne wrote:
I'm minded to start adding
survey:date=
to some of my mapping
On 28/01/2019 21:56, Colin Smale wrote:
On 2019-01-28 22:22, Chris Hill wrote:
Post town do not exist, and never have. They are a fiction invented
by Royal Mail for their own internal use which they persuaded the
public into using for the sole benefit of Royal Mail.
...and for the benefit
, these datasets are not Open Data and we cannot use them as
a data source in OSM. I feel that the Open Government Licence should not
be used in this case as it isn't Open.
On 09/01/2019 11:47, SK53 wrote:
Hi Andy,
Both Chris Hill & I blogged about them at the time, but they NEVER had
any sembl
with
the way the tiles are generated, which I'm addressing. I believe
Codepoint Open and ONSPD are pretty much identical with the current
postcodes, but there is much more historical data in the ONSPD data.
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these out. The way OSM works is that people edit the map to
add value to it. Of you want these stadiums on the map, why not create an
account (it's free and very easy) and add the building outlines yourself. You
can add a few tags to describe it and in a
You would be free to
create your own map render that shows the sites for the hoards of UFO
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Parks. Seems odd.
No addressing data as previously discussed.
Still seems like a half-hearted, muddle from people who don't understand or
want Open Data.
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, then Binns,
then House of Fraser, then briefly Hammonds again before being HoF
again. I suspect that people will still refer to Hammonds long after the
store has closed.
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On 07/06/2018 20:53, Andrew Hain wrote:
House of Fraser today announced today that half
be interested in.
Robert.
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>If you could run a script that truly updates the map in the area that
>would be another thing, but you cannot; you can only run a script that
>removes the obvious "this map is outdated" marker. That might make the
>map *look* more current but actually it isn't
expired postcodes too.
Both of these datasets do not show each delivery point, but just a
centroid (in OSGB grid ref) for all the delivery points.
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grateful to Robert for taking on asking ERoYC for this data. I
think he now has the experience and persistence to succeed and I wish
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think it's wrong.
That's why I want a discussion about it. Kingston upon Hull could go in
another tag (sunday_name=*).
Should we use the name that is the official, never-used name or the
real, on-the-ground name that everyone knows the place by? What do you
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Greenspace. I intend to add some information to explain what is being
shown and where it comes from, thanks to a helpful comment from Ed Loach.
See the latest here: https://raggedred.net/openover
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On 09/08/2017 22:38, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
On 9 August 2017 at 18:13, Chris Hill <o...@raggedred.net> wrote:
I have a rather strange explanation as to why Forestry Commission land is
not shown on the OS Open Greenspace dataset. OS Customer Services have
explained that they
90% of Public Forest Estate that the
Forestry Commission dedicated right of access.
https://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-7rufp5#access
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Subject: Re: [T
lf courses. I
think this is a useful dataset to check an area to see if OSM is missing
something.
Feedback is welcome. If it's useful, I'll probably sort out the tile
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Looks like a typo. a road providing the link, northbound A1 to the
roundabout was tagged as trunk link (missing underscore). I have changed
that.
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On 28/03/2017 15:07, Jones, Luke (KEU.FXT) wrote:
Good afternoon,
The above-mentioned junction was amended last
On 24/03/2017 19:17, ael wrote:
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 06:57:58PM +, Chris Hill wrote:
On 24/03/2017 17:58, ael wrote:
I have just noticed a newish mapper who has added many footpaths around
Oxfordshire apparently using Bing but with changset comments
"from countryside acces
that rural footpaths usually need a visit, and asking
about that map.
Is this likley to be legitimate?
ael
A quick search came up with this
https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/countrysidemap/
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So you decided that the Imports mailing list isn't useful and is too
20th Century for you.
Don't you see how arrogant and disconnected you sound?
An hour a week was spent in the provider's office, but not once was the
process required by OSM to do imports mentioned?
It may have been done by
will change. There may be
some bluster, some indignant emails hurled around but these imports
won't be reverted as they should be and the precedent will remain. What
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On 19/03/2017 14:03, Rob Nickerson wrote:
Hi,
This was discussed at our monthly meeting
update it each time a new version of the open postcode
data are released.
I'm working on including an overlay that shows postcodes that have
recently been retired too.
[1] http://codepoint.raggedred.net
[2] http://onspd.raggedred.net
[3] http://pcdates.raggedred.net
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I suspected that the Multiploygon was defaulting to being an area and
screwing up the roads. I speculatively added area=no to the MP and all
seems well now (I think).
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On 26/01/2017 16:00, Edward Catmur wrote:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/6809001
<h
The farms near me that grow grass as a crop to transplant onto, say, a
pitch sell their product as turf.
I would say this is crop=turf on landuse=farmland, the turf is grown for
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On 09/01/2017 21:28, Warin wrote:
Hi
quickly then the importer will realise they have to sort
the data out before it is imported.
I fully support Frederik in his continued efforts to keep the quality of
data in OSM as high as possible.
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On 04/01/2017 21:18, Mikel Maron wrote:
Reverts should be held to the same
. I was told there was no record of this
data being released under any open licence.
This is why I tried to contact Barry to get an explanation and to strengthen my
case. He has not replied to me.
Chris Hill
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> On 21 Dec 2016, at 11:42, Owen Boswarva <owen.boswa...@gma
that as it is copyright.
Barry has not told me where he got the data from that he uses. I have asked.
Chris Hill
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> On 21 Dec 2016, at 11:32, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting. Under what license to you believe East Riding issued the data
> tha
I believe that link to be unsupported by contradicting evidence.
Chris Hill
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> On 21 Dec 2016, at 11:15, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
> I'm a bit confused. Both Chris & David W. appear to have missed the link to
> http
.
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> On 21 Dec 2016, at 11:10, Dave F <davefoxfa...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 21/12/2016 11:04, David Woolley wrote:
>> A more complete answer is "probably not", as it is unlikely that many
>> definitiv
It would be good to improve the road names. I feel it is easier to do the
survey that is needed to weed out the rather odd 'errors' that pepper the OS
Locator when the days are longer.
Cheers, Chris (chillly)
On 7 December 2016 12:37:52 GMT+00:00, Martyn Evans
wrote:
On 05/12/16 20:19, Dave Barter wrote:
Excuse the noob question as I’ve not been on the list long.
I’m doing a bit of work trying to create an open version of the OS Codepoint
Polygons. To do this I need as much postcode data as possible. I’ve been
looking at extracting this from OSM and as
On 23/11/16 15:32, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
Hi, maybe interesting and not totally OT ;-)
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hey should be change as clearly more users are
expecting psv=*
If the changes are to a more popular or useful tag, then there's no
harm. With fewer tags, it makes it easier for a consumer to validate
the data.
DaveF.
On 13/10/2016 17:38, Chris Hill wrote:
Please don't change the tags to suit your a
edits applied, officiated by the imports list I
think. Or one could check with the mapper(s) who did the tagging in
question?
Dan
2016-10-13 18:00 GMT+01:00 Chris Hill <o...@raggedred.net>:
There are not an infinite number of ways to tag things. In order to edit the
tags you think need changin
postcodes, if NISRA wanted to support an open data
>release. (Addresses are a different matter, of course.)
>
>Owen
>
>On 25 September 2016 at 22:26, Chris Hill <o...@raggedred.net> wrote:
>
>You would have to ask OS. As I understand it OS and RM were pressured
>into
>
Postcodes don't apply to a road, they apply to a collection of delivery points.
Many, many roads have multiple postcodes. Some buildings have multiple
postcodes. See my postcode page: http://codepoint.raggedred.net
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On 25 September 2016 22:52:27 BST, Lester Caine
GB postcodes are published under a compatible licence by the Office of National
Statistics. The confusion over the Codepoint Open licence has been resolved as
it is now released under a suitable licence too. Northern Ireland does not
release its postcodes under any open licence.
Cheers, Chris
Why do you need area=yes?
On 5 August 2016 17:13:01 BST, Christian Ledermann
wrote:
>I changed the logic, example changeset:
>http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/changeset/90404
>
>1) single polygons are rendered as ways, with the same tags as before
>plus area=yes
I'd say it's complexity with no advantage so not desirable. It looks like a
poorly thought-through semi automated edit. No more of these should be added in
the current form IMHO.
Cheers, Chris
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On 4 August 2016 15:22:40 BST, Andy Allan wrote:
>On 4 August
We certainly don't need the phoney, contrived postal town. That is purely a
Royal Mail invention that serves no useful purpose for anyone else. RM is just
one user of addressing amongst many.
Addressing is not created by Royal Mail, it is maintained by local authorities.
We should start there.
It's great that you want to add to the map data. Please do not add the
OS OpenMap Local building outlines. They are heavily simplified and as
such, poor quality. You can't distinguish how many residences there are
in a building outline, so is it detached, semi-detached or a terrace?
Adding
On 05/04/16 14:59, Stuart Reynolds wrote:
Is there a site or tool somewhere where I can click on a point on an
OSM tile and get back the OSGR? I want the quality of OSM, but need
OSGR unfortunately.
Thanks
I just created a web page [1] that shows OSM with an OSGB location of
the mouse
I found 54 cemeteries with their names spelt cemetary in the GB extract from
last night. I'm not going to run a bot to change any of them - what if that's
what the sign on the gate actually says?
On 24 March 2016 11:14:07 GMT+00:00, Stuart Reynolds
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Email the data working group d...@openstreetmap.org with details they can block
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On 26/02/16 11:23, David Woolley wrote:
On 25/02/16 17:04, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
User can also enter relevant POIs like stiles, gates etc when they are
encountered.
When user returns home, track simplification algorithm used to make a
way from the GPX trace and tags it with the tags
On 12/02/16 11:51, Ian Caldwell wrote:
On 11 February 2016 at 21:32, Michael Booth > wrote:
So my question is, how are we defining villages, towns and cities?
Only by population, or do we also take into account their
generally accepted
On 28/01/16 19:16, David Marchal wrote:
Hello, there.
On a GitHub issue
(https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2027#issuecomment-174443685),
I've been told that Wiki tagging votes are only advisory and that the
community is only invited, neither required nor recommended,
On 18/01/16 06:50, Marc Gemis wrote:
On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Lester Caine wrote:
On 17/01/16 20:42, Ed Loach wrote:
So, should we be using the full school name or abbreviating 'church of
england voluntary aided' to CEVA as they do on the school pullovers?
Similar
On 07/12/15 18:11, Philip Barnes wrote:
On Sat, 2015-12-05 at 00:54 +, Dave F. wrote:
Hi
I know this has been discussed before , but recent edits by user:
abc26324 prompts me to ask/verify again the point of road relations
in the UK. Example:
There has been a discussion on the tagging mailing list triggered by
Gerd Petermann having made a mechanical edit to some traffic calming
features. I asked him to revert the undiscussed mechanical edit which he
has done. He is not subscribed to talk-gb, he asked me to forward a link
to his
On 22/11/15 19:06, Rob Nickerson wrote:
>There has been a discussion on the tagging mailing list triggered by
>Gerd Petermann having made a mechanical edit to some traffic calming
>features.
Thanks Chris,
To summarise for those who don't want to get stuck in the tagging
mailing list, Gerd
On 22/11/15 20:17, Steve Doerr wrote:
On 22/11/2015 19:37, Chris Hill wrote:
Mechanical edits need to be discussed. He then
indicated that he would discuss the tags on tagging@ - indeed he
suggested leaving his edit and discussing it on tagging@. I wanted also
to make it clear that tagging
On 31/10/15 21:59, Colin Smale wrote:
The change could have been managed better, like proper announcements a
couple of months ahead of time, with a date - "On 30th October OSM
will switch to a new stylesheet for the standard map. For information
about what this will mean for you, click here"
On 27/09/15 22:54, Alex Barth wrote:
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Paul Norman > wrote:
On 9/22/2015 4:26 PM, Alex Barth wrote:
Overall, I'd love to see us moving towards a share alike
interpretation that applies to "OSM as
On 28/09/15 16:14, Phil Endecott wrote:
Chris Hill wrote:
I've had a go at extracting the height of buildings from the
Environment Agency LIDAR, and it seems possible.
I loaded the EA data into a database and found all the height points
within the polygon of an existing building outline
underneath). Perhaps this effort could be useful
for OSM in some way.
Regards
Tony
On 25 September 2015 at 23:03, Chris Hill <o...@raggedred.net> wrote:
I've had a go at extracting the height of buildings from the Environment
Agency LIDAR, and it seems possible.
I loaded the EA data into a da
I've had a go at extracting the height of buildings from the Environment
Agency LIDAR, and it seems possible.
I loaded the EA data into a database and found all the height points
within the polygon of an existing building outline. The highest value is
the height of the building. From that I
On 24/09/15 18:41, Phil Endecott wrote:
Chris Hill wrote:
Suitably processed this could provide a source of building outlines.
Yes, I think it could be very useful for that. I've had a play
and rather than doing shaded relief I've just converted the height
directly into a grey shade. I've
On 23/09/15 14:18, Phil Endecott wrote:
Has anyone reviewed how useful this LIDAR data would be for 3D city
mapping?
Chris Hill wrote:
The slippy map with relief tiles made from the data and optionally
contours also made from the data is here: http://relief.raggedred.net.
Thanks Chris
On 23/09/15 20:36, Tim Waters wrote:
Could subtracting between the DSM and DTM where we have buildings
already in OSM give the height of the buildings?
On 23 September 2015 at 15:08, Chris Hill <o...@raggedred.net> wrote:
On 23/09/15 14:18, Phil Endecott wrote:
Has anyone review
might try to
work out some of the building heights there.
On 23/09/15 20:36, Tim Waters wrote:
Could subtracting between the DSM and DTM where we have buildings
already in OSM give the height of the buildings?
On 23 September 2015 at 15:08, Chris Hill <o...@raggedred.net> wrote:
On 23/09
Thanks for the plug Tim :-)
The slippy map with relief tiles made from the data and optionally
contours also made from the data is here: http://relief.raggedred.net.
This covers a mostly very flat area, yet significant details are
visible. It does show a number of places where ditches and
On 14/09/15 15:18, Richard Symonds wrote:
I see your problem... could you tell me how exactly you define the
hierarchy at the moment? Is it ad-hoc, with various rules in different
areas etc?
Perhaps it would be better to, instead of having a hierarchy based on
definitions, instead having a
On 09/08/15 14:40, Paul Bivand wrote:
Noticed some changes that I think odd that appear to derive from mapper
urViator changing highway= primary to primary_link in a gyratory system in
Strood. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33203852
As I understand the _link versions, these are for
Dave,
I don't think anyone has a veto. Why would it harm you if this went ahead?
On 13 July 2015 19:00:56 GMT+01:00, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Find out first if people want it, rather than ask how they think it
should be implemented.
On 13/07/2015 14:03, Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 13
On 08/06/15 10:18, Wittle, Paul wrote:
Hi,
It is interesting that people often say UK counties are defunct because the
post office no longer use them; you could argue that postal addressing was not
really the purpose of counties in the first place. The point of counties being
more about
On 05/06/15 14:15, Wittle, Paul wrote:
Hi,
Is it ok to add a tag 'addr:county' when drawing properties, it
doesn't seem to be an officially recognised tag but I can find some
references to it online?
Also, would you put sub-districts of a town (i.e. Wyke Regis in
Weymouth) under
:
On 3 June 2015 at 18:57, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:
You can use the tiles in JOSM
using the url below[2]
[2] http://www.raggedred.net/tiles/opennames/{z}/{x}/{y}.png
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Hi,
I've been looking at OS Open Names, part of the Ordnance Survey Open
Data. OS notified me that OS Locator will be withdrawn, hinted that
Codepoint Open will be withdrawn too and that OS Open Names is the
combined replacement. OS Open Names is published under OGL, so it is
compatible with
I've just published the latest Codepoint Open release as an overlay for
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On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 11:10 AM, JB jb...@mailoo.org
mailto:jb...@mailoo.org wrote:
I have nothing against bicycle repair stations. Really. But, just in
France, how many databases do we have that are as worth as this one ?
Post offices,
A tagging scheme, that was already in use, was being changed by a proposal,
supported by a small number of votes. Because of these votes the proposer
decided that his tagging scheme should be adopted by a mass edit. That mass
edit would have broken any use of the tagging scheme by data
On 03/01/15 16:50, Rainer Fügenstein wrote:
in accordance to the mechanical edit policy, I'd like to open the
discussion on this list:
a recently approved proposal introduced new tags for pipelines and
marker [1] and changed an established tag:
type=* was changed to substance=*
The values
On 03/01/15 17:46, François Lacombe wrote:
2015-01-03 18:22 GMT+01:00 Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net
mailto:o...@raggedred.net:
What about the maps I produce for my client? You're not likely to
know about it as it is a private project. If you make a mechanical
edit that breaks my
The example you give has not been well mapped and the mapper needs to be
contacted to explain about lanes. There is not an extra physical road between
the carriageways so it should not be added as such.
On 7 November 2014 23:42:24 GMT, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk
wrote:
I'd always
On 04/11/14 22:04, Colin Smale wrote:
Hang on a minute... the name tag should contain the most common name,
or, as the wiki puts it, the common default name. There are other
tags for enthousiasts to store official names, legal names, alternate
names, brands, operators etc which, in a certain
On 01/11/14 15:39, Dan S wrote:
Chris, I appreciate what you're saying - except for one point:
2014-11-01 15:35 GMT+00:00 Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net:
[...]
to what is on the ground, I'll revert it and ask for Matthijs to be blocked
from editing, as I would any other vandal.
Please can we
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