claim some sort of intellectual property rights over the
data in that table and hence people have generally used algorithmic
approximations to avoid licensing issues.
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I'm more cautious than most about such issues).
See my other posting - the issue is that the best version of the
mapping to OSGB relies on a large data table. It is not just an
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If I'm wrong then please correct me and send me the patch to review.
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that I also need to look at.
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don't have them. Are they hard to compile? I'm curious about them.
visibility | files | points
--++
identifiable | 117842 | 521799942
trackable| 31402 | 106699810
public | 457571 | 1217736394
private | 186479 | 444176488
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Is anybody else getting this know how to sort it?
I would imagine that one would sort it by reporting what is obviously a
bug in Firefox and/or the Flash plugin to Mozilla and/or Adobe.
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is on a
different layer to the surrounding roads.
Even better, the railway there is now on the same layer as the road but
there is no bridge or level crossing marked so arguably it is now worse
than it was before then the layering was right but the bridge was missing.
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will back down long before then. For example, I don't think
the GNU GPL has ever gone to court.
Then you think wrong:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl#The_GPL_in_court
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contributors then that is a feature, not a bug. When making a decision
becomes mandatory on Sunday there will be a decline button.
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I reported it several messages back.
I see a decline button, but clicking it doesn't seem to do anything.
Ah right, that's a bug introduced by Matt's changes to support the move
to mandatory accept/decline - one that is turned on the button will do
something...
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that he sysadmins are extremely allergic to the web site relying on
anything that is not running on an OSMF server.
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a month since they last pushed anything.
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As I understand things it is Phase 3 which we are close to entering, not
Phase 5.
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and not authoritative in any way.
In this case I don't believe that what is written there is an accurate
summary of the situation at all.
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of the implementation
plan and I understand that those are in progress.
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As for the update, why is it not monitored?
I don't know - maybe the board has established a Community Monitoring
Group yet? Maybe you should suggest it to them?
You seem to have me confused with somebody in authority ;-)
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we do they will
be emailed to ask them to consider doing so.
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let me know.
It's complaining about:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/89803436
with the following:
Could not convert one of 6A or 6D to an integer
but addr:interpolation is alphabetic so I think what it there is fine?
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at [3].
They're for things like freepost addresses and other specialised
delivery arrangements for large companies.
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On 14/03/11 10:01, Ed Avis wrote:
I accidentally made a GPX file with waypoints but no track segments (I think).
The OSM track upload rejected it. Is there any way I can download the
original
file that I uploaded?
No - files which fail to import are deleted.
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On 14/03/11 18:45, Nakor wrote:
Isn't a Pas just a mountain pass:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mountain_pass (like e.g.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pas_de_Peyrol )?
Col is the usual word for a mountain pass.
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Tags:
FIXME:nsl = inferred single-carriageway NSL - remove this tag once verified
source:maxspeed = UK:nsl_single
I'm also curious as to what this UK:nsl_single source is? Does he have
some sort of list of roads subject to the NSL?
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Which means he is clearly in violation of point 3 discuss your plans
of the automated edits code of conduct:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits/Code_of_Conduct
Not to mention point 4 as well...
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by everybody since the date the user whose edits were being removed
started editing!
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them back.
In this case I believe the edits go back before we moved to postgres
anyway so (a) the current database wouldn't have logs for all the
changes even if it never clean up old logs and (b) before that edits
were not done in database transactions anyway.
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providers use OSM data or is this likely in the future?
E.g. if Peter Miller's proposal for subjective data to be gathered in
some way?
Yes - Skobler use it to start with.
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came along and just blindly copied in the OS names thus making it
impossible to tell what I still needed to go and check!
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the
map messages after working for an hour or so. This would have involved
a fair download as I was moving fast over the territory.
That will be your problem - you have probably hit the bandwidth limit.
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anything for a while it
will automatically back off.
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On 02/02/11 15:50, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 02/02/11 15:31, Chris Moss wrote:
Is this what you're referring to, or something else? What is time limit
on it? 1 hour, 24 hours, what?
It's essentially a rate limit - it allows you to download data
continuously at a certain rate
, and the email never arrives.
It looks like it's working - there are recent tracks there that have
been uploaded in the last few minutes.
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will search the OpenData postcode data (and various other postcode
databases for other countries) directly anyway.
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centroids are not real like that - in fact postcodes are not
defined in a geographic way at all. Rather they are defined by lists of
addresses. The centroid (and the bounding polygons that you sometimes
see) are then generated algorithmically from the locations of those
addresses.
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description I heard anybody come up with was that it was an aqueduct but
it's hardly a typical aqueduct.
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On 17/01/11 09:30, Richard Mann wrote:
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 17:53 +, Tom Hughes wrote:
Other than the one you get by clicking Map Key on the left hand side
of the map you mean?
Try doing that when osmarender or the cyclemap layers are displayed
(patches welcome, I guess)
Exactly
appearance at low zoom (for example railways look
different at z13 and below) so could do with having multiple images and
patches for config/key.yml to select the right ones.
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of the map you mean?
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On 11/01/11 11:05, David Murn wrote:
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 19:47 +, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 10/01/11 19:00, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
American usage would be to refer to that as a road, just not a very
high-quality road. I take it that, in Britain, there are certain minimum
standards
? I see no obvious methods. No x to close it, no settings
to do.
Isn't this a question you should be addressing to Cloudmade rather than
the OSM community?
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me alone because I didn't know the real situation that other people
would just come round and merge them anyway.
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that they are happy to disclaim their rights, or
that they are happy to grant you a license to do what you wish with
it, which is fine for you. Other people should not assume that their
local authority will take the same view however.
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to an
appropriate license then you shouldn't be using it.
You should not confuse data being available to you (whether under
FOIA, or the Highways Act or whatever) with the question of what
rights attach to that data and hence what you can or can't do with it.
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On 22/12/10 20:55, Stephan Knauss wrote:
On 22.12.2010 19:15, Tom Hughes wrote:
A second problem is that because Opera always fires the onload event for
the iframe, even if loading the content failed, the error popup doesn't
work on Opera if JOSM isn't running.
Why not using the CORS routine
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On 18/12/10 18:17, Anthony wrote:
Google Maps 5.0 for Android adds vector graphics (including arbitrary
zoom and rotation) and offline usage/rerouting.
Just like MapDroyd has been doing with OSM data for ages you mean ;-)
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pointing at http://www.ourairports.com/data/ which does indeed
say it is PD data. He has also listed it in the import catalogue in the
wiki with a pointer to that page.
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have thought about. I believe a few people have experimented with
it on the wikipedia tool server. Nobody has yet presented us with a
production ready implementation.
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On 07/12/10 11:31, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
This is really a policy issue I think.
I've replied to everything else on the legal list, but to get back to
the original issue: you seem to be in a position to change the flag on
my
compelling.
It's not a bit, it's a timestamp precisely because it does provide
better evidence. It also means it can be correlated with the logs, so
for example I can tell what IP address you made the change from.
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existing sources
like the PAF and the NLPG and they won't want to see their income
streams disappear so will lobby hard against you.
Certainly it's absolutely nothing to do with the OFT as far as I know.
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(for the past 10+
minutes); I'm unable to finish uploading this changeset (thus if it's
not fixed there will be a bunch of unconnected nodes left over).
And? I'm not your personal API unblocker here to kick other people off
so you can get unimpeded access you know.
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on people adding comments explaining why
it should not be done.
I have to say that, if the Google translation is anything to go by, then
the comments on that one don't seem very constructive. It's better to
explain why people shouldn't do it than to just rant.
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- it doesn't
actually have to be the same type of request, just something else that
is handled in the same queue.
The plan is to move more calls into cgimap, which means that they will
be rate limited. It also means they will be more efficient so that
delays will be less likely.
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does Potlatch use
when loading an area?
Potlatch 1 uses it's own special AMF call. Potlatch 2 uses the same XML
based map call as everything else.
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the same info. Please, consider xz
as a possibility. It would decrease the space needed, the time used to
make the planets and the bandwith use.
Because bz2 is far more widely supported by tools and libraries that
people might wish to use to read the data.
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On 22/11/10 11:41, steve brown wrote:
The gpx uploader does support them as long as they are in the right format.
No it doesn't. There's a lot of history here but it was basically
deliberate that it doesn't import them.
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it wasn't done as far I understand it.
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dictionary meanings, which for many of
our tags is completely wrong.
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stands with regard to the new CTs?
Now you're assuming that the CTs are not compatible with OpenData, a
question which has yet to be resolved - some people believe that they
are compatible.
Now please, take the legal debates back to legal-talk and stop trying to
move them around.
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stands with regard to the new CTs?
Now you're assuming that the CTs are not compatible with OpenData, a
question which has yet to be resolved - some people believe that they
are compatible.
Now please, take the legal debates back to legal-talk and stop trying to
move them around.
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On 15/11/10 16:02, Nakor wrote:
Sure but how do we get this fixed so Mapnik layer in osm.org does not
show the South Pole in the wrong place?
Provide a patch for osm2pgsql to make it clip/discard geometries which
go beyond 85 degrees north/south (or whatever the actual limit is).
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it won't add significantly to the size is if people don't
use it very much, in which case why bother.
For the record I think this is completely outside the scope of OSM and
should not be done.
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of a percent of users - the same
sort of people that got banned by hand before when they were noticed.
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What happens when someone exceeds the API bandwidth? Do they get an
error condition or are simply blocked?
They get a 509 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded response.
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On 23/08/10 12:46, Jim Avery wrote:
Forgive me if I'm missing something staring me in the face, but where
do I find the new TCs and how do I sign up to them should I decide I
want to?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/terms
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stopped today however which is why it has been
better.
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that a confirmed user has been confirmed by an administrator and is
hence exempt from the normal spam detection.
It's basically used when the spam detector misfires and blocks a user
and an administrator goes in and confirms the account to reactivate it.
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you just don't go to the page and agree if you don't want to sign up.
I'll see what I can do about getting the text changed...
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On 12/08/10 13:58, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote:
PS: I'd be interested to know if the current CTs have had any legal
review from OSMF's lawyers...
Who do you think wrote them?!? Normal humans don't write like that!
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is supposed to be for our site - GPL I
think but I stand ready to be corrected.
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why Hertfordshire's gazetteer often seems to
disagree with the OS about names ;-)
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problem entirely and benefit OSM
directly.
Err actually, please don't start OpenID support from scratch as we
already have a branch with more or less complete OpenID support!
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OpenID support from OSM?
Relying party - ie from other sites.
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you consider
that.
A rendered map (which is all that existed at the time you are talking
about) of course can be copyright due to the creative nature of the
cartography making it an artistic work.
A database of geodata is an entirely different matter.
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that can be attached to any changes they make.
If the OpenID provider supplies sufficient data (basically an email
address and nickname) then they need do little more than click OK to
accept the details and then accept the terms.
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separate from OSM identity and
allowing OSM identities to have multiple ways of logging in)?
Currently it only allows one openid per account, but you can still have
a password as well and use that if you want.
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to find that in the rails_port source code history.
I doubt it, because there weren't any contributor terms before that.
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with no problems at all, so if you're
having a problem with 100Kb then I'd be inclined to blame your browser.
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That's just a caching issue - the importer doesn't flush the cached page.
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if I can see what is going on.
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=private to the non-public roads would be a good start.
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that the names shouldn't be rechecked where there is a
conflict - they're simply saying that it is daft to remove the current
name before the resurvey has been done.
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grateful. It is being tracked in trac:
http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3116
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contribute.
The advantage of a Q+A site like this is that the karma/voting system
allows the good questions and answers to float to the top and become
visible above the noise.
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the question to the platform
that's best suited for it.
People should be down voting and/or moderating such questions then.
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should be used and what should (and shouldn't) be there. You can
find the FAQ here:
http://help.openstreetmap.org/faq/
and then get started asking (and answering) questions here:
http://help.openstreetmap.org/
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These will all suffer from a similar problem.
Could I suggest possibly adding place=civil parish (or something
similar) and not including this in the name.
Sure, and what's with all the _SHOUTY_TAGS_WITH_UNDERSCORES_ shit?
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choose to lock the data
in RAM.
Actually it's 8 cores, but with hyperthreading. So it can't do the full
work of 16 cores but can probably do a bit more that 8 cores worth.
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...and be very grateful to that person!
please do not hesitate!
It will be whichever articles deal with copyright and database right.
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