the 'empty folder'
command and instead, make the empty folder menu item delete all
messages except the parked ones.
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. Reality is for those who can't handle Star Trek.
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_
he time to list the messages to be
marked as deleted when it's really not necessary. I suspect that the
empty folder command is likely not specifying particular messages to
flag as deleted and this is why the one's with the parked attribute
are being caught in the mix.
age to the Inbox
when finished. You then move your new message to the desired location.
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the 'empty folder'
command and instead, make the empty folder menu item delete all
messages except the parked ones.
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. Reality is for those who can't handle Star Trek.
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lete everything except parked messages ?
I'm afraid I cannot confirm this. The empty folder command doesn't
delete parked messages here.
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. Peace through superior firepower.
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T
On 18/10/2004 at 7:59:33 AM, Olivier Mascia, [OM] wrote:
> PS: Allie, I have used IMAP for years (and I just don't mean 2 or 3 by
> writing this) and never had my hands back on POP for the same time.
> Your explanation about IMAP was interesting and correct. But here the
> facts
So I can't confirm this, unless your cache
was deleted and rebuilt with your not realizing this. This would mean
that the parked attribute would be lost. My previous message explains
why.
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. Question Authority, ask me anything
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7;t use. TB! uses it's proprietary colour
groups labelling (lovely for POP3, but a problem for IMAP). The IMAP
protocol leaves provisions for special attributes that TB! could take
advantage of. Other IMAP clients wouldn't know what they mean or be
able to use them, but at least these spe
not put it there in the first place. :)
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. Plan to be more spontaneous.
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Current beta is 3.0.2.1 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' i
tatistics in occasional small doses. I think it's the quantity that
> puts folks off.
I think you should get the TBBETA member of the month award for this
suggestion. Not only is it elegant and thoughtful, but it
makes for a great compromise considering the situation. ;)
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.
age in your editor of choice. Edit the
message how you wish to and then import the finished copy. Is the
editing very frequent that this would make out to be a hassle?
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. Would I ask you a rhetorical question?
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ssages. Why?
Why do you get that idea? You mean no one seems to use them on these
lists? Well, how does that translate to no-one using them at all?
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. 1st rule of intelligent tinkering - save all the parts
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The Bat! v3.0.1.33
effort
to build the template the outputs that over the top signature. At
least it's automated thereafter. Now you go checking all signatures
and annoying us with repeated interjections like this. I see what
you're up to, but this will not earn you support.
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. Oxym
ut it
> every time it happens...
Go into TB! Preferences and go to the 'System' category. There's an
option there 'When logging events, use system alarm sound for:" Deselect
the Errors and Warnings options. That should silence TB! for you.
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On 16/10/2004 at 8:11:01 AM, Marek Mikus, [MM] wrote:
> I am in contact with NOD32 developers, we have discussed it in INVEX
> (tradefair in Czech republic) two days ago and they will try to find
> a problem ASAP.
Wow! They actually respond to you. Incredible. :)
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.
ties and signatures all the time. It can be
faster, especially since your hands may already be on the keyboard.
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ownloaded upon selection. Leave
the attachments for only when they're selected for saving or viewing.
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. Floggings will continue until morale improves.
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Using The Bat! v3.0.
eting. Exporting works, though it takes a long time.
Deleting and moving just don't. :(
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. Hard work must have killed someone!
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Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 with
se are not mails transmitted across the Internet
to public servers? If the latter is the case then other means of
exchanging such large files really aught to be explored.
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. Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.
iated working
> with you both on and off list.
> Special thanks goes to 9Val for your hard and fast work off list.
I wholeheartedly agree. :grin:
Keep it up RITlabs!!
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. Predestination was doomed from the start.
_
I then
installed this new executable and things are running just fine here.
I'm happy. :) Congratulations on the diligence being exhibited here.
It will pay off in the end. This new release will be one to be happy
about.
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. Famous last words - Icarus: Aa
her upgrade.
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. Impropriety is the soul of wit.
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Clive Taylor, [CT] wrote:
> Now that is interesting, Allie, because I have EXACTLY the opposite
> experience.
Actually it sounds worse. :)
> TB frustrates the life out of me with its slowness of response,
> freezes in refreshing folder contents, sending of mail and - most
> an
ere. Are you using any plugins. There have been
reports of problems with startup in this thread and the problem was
traced to the Bayes Filter.
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ot;11 October 2004" in the
> "Digital Signatures" tab.
I just installed it and I now have two entries in the add/remove
programs group. I'll leave it there and probably remove one with a
utility when I need to do a general cleanup.
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.
and cons of each experience, Mulberry, ThunderBird and TB!; at the
moment TB! is my winner. For Clive, it's Mulberry.
Just see how it is for you. Don't give up immediately since TB! can
likely be made to work better for you, especially where operating speed
and responsiveness is concer
Peter Ouwehand, [PO] wrote:
> I'm using full-height account tree with PTV and it happens here also.
Minimizing to tray is an essential ingredient it would seem. I left
TB! minimized to the taskbar for a long time just now and came back to
see it just fine.
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. Read wha
9val, [9] wrote:
> [-] Priority icon was lost after manual message loading
Confirmed as fixed!! :)
> [-] Incorrect flag reseting in some cases
> [*] optimizations on headers updating
I'm happy for these. Anything for a smoother experience is welcome. :)
Thanks!
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Richard Wakeford, [RW] wrote:
> Yup, read that elsewhere and saw it for real when I removed "Nologo".
> Didn't always used to be different though did they?
No. Before, they were pretty much the same.
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. Why do we read left to right yet tur
er, I'm unable to confirm. I'm using the default v3
high colour icons. I sent myself a high priority message and the high
priority icon doesn't show. But then again, it doesn't show for a
local folder so
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. One picture is worth 128K words.
ot fix,
the only evidence being that there's a problem with compressing it.
I'd create a new folder, setup the purge settings, and copy the
messages to it. When finished, attempt a purge and compress of that
new folder with a newly created message base.
rogress dialog cannot monitor this. The same problem occurs with the
search dialog's progress indicator.
Will these ever be made to work? I wonder.
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outbox and sent
>without any question or completion.
> 4) "SignComplete" is ignored in that circumstance.
I don't see this happening here.
Could this be happening only with mass mailing?
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ers in TB!
Maybe a problem with the maintenance center and how it does multiple
folders?
Have you tried individually deduping a folder? Does that work OK?
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. Cynicism is knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing.
wnload the messages.
> Can anyone else confirm?
Just created some dupes in a folder and de-duped it without problems.
How are you doing your deduping? Through the Maintenance Centre or
individually, using the 'remove duplicates' option in each folders
context menu?
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t least, your
other TB! installations at other locations will show it. I'd
personally disagree with the proposal that they commit efforts at
making colour groups work better when it's only local.
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. It's smart to pick your friends, but not to pieces.
__
or webmail control of IMAP accounts. These webmail interfaces
often allow for filtering. You could setup filters there and then let
TB!'s broken filtering do as little as possible. This is my current
system of dealing with things. I'd go nuts and run if I had to filter
all
they swear by a lot of things I'd rather not use. We'll see.
To TBOT with anymore of this...
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. Shift key? this keyboard is an automatic!
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lling the key that?
Hit to toggle viewers. That's
what I needed to write.
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> error display?
'Coincidence' is the key here. I think it would amount to only that. ;)
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IMAP Cli
ggles to plain text viewer. Hit the
key combo again, this toggles back to the RTV. Seems to work here
everytime, while other methods have not always worked. It's a lot more
bearable, now that I've found a quick means of dealing with it that
always works.
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. The
t and yet not an
account. ;) If you do this, then I guess, selecting a common folder,
going to the Account menu and then selecting Properties, shouldn't
be a reason for surprise, since the global config panel for common
folders appears again.
> So, thank you again!
You're welc
ncountered this
error.
I see that others have seen it though.
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2.10.
Common folders require their own configuration for when messages are
flagged as read.
This can be done by selecting any common folder and then hitting
Shift-CTRL-P. The configuration panel for common folders should appear
and the first option is that read flag trigger time interval.
-
with other filters" was marked, so several moves (one
> for each SF) were carried out and I ended up with several copies of
> the messages. (That bug is gone by now, luckily.)
This would amount to buggy behaviour, yes, and it's where it's
supposed to be, in oblivion, i.e., g
g. Seeing the
error come out of the blue and not going away is like being violated.
Hopefully, it'll be fixed soon. It's reappearance shows how darned
pesky it is.
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. Life would
would end up with the message marked
>> as read in the Inbox but not in Junk.
> Hmm.. You are not following your own logic here, are you? May I guess
> you misread "MOVE TO" for "COPY TO" in the above filter? If not, you
> certainly have to explain your above st
eate limitations. I now agree with the view that actions should be
able to be applied to messages after they've been moved, however, not
after they've been deleted. Neither should actions be applied to
copies created and placed in another folder.
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hat the OFS would have
done, i.e., to auto-adjust any folders using the renamed folder as a
target or source folder to reflect the new name.
Can anyone confirm this with POP3 or is it IMAP only.
This may have been reported already anyway. I can't keep up anymore.
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The Bat! v3.0
Martin Webster, [MW] wrote:
> However, I'm beginning to think that many of the problems I
> experience are due to the many settings and possible combinations
> for IMAP. I think Allie has already hinted at this...
Yup. The power is in the tuning. I wish to have more than merely
install
version, then delete or rename the 3.0.0.6 executable and then do a
repair install of the .msi release.
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. IBM: I Buy Macinstosh
Current beta is 3.00.06 | '
Leif Gregory, [LG] wrote:
> Will probably reinstall TB to see what happens.
That'd probably be a good idea sine I can't confirm the problem
either. Seems to be a problem with your installation or some bizarre
software interaction.
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Marek Mikus, [MM] wrote:
> I can confirm this, but Avenarius, why didn't You reported this one
> already? How can be something fixed, if nobody reports it? :-(
... on bugtraq or on TBBETA?
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The Bat! v3.0 · Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2)
. One way to stop
ne for me. However, your mileage may vary.
If you're choosing to change and you've grown to like a lot of the
special features TB! offers, then there'll be heavy concessions to
make.
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. I think not, said De
t has happened.
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The Bat! v3.0 · Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2)
. Fraud(n): A telephone number starting with 1-900
pgpdwTHMznLIS.pgp
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t effort which has improved support for many TB! users so that
they can maximize their use of TB!.
Note that I'll not be leaving the lists entirely. I'll still be
around, but no longer as an official trouter.
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· My PGP-Keys: http://ke
Marcus Ohlström wrote:
> Not exactly what you want, but it might suite you. Mark a message in the
> result list and select Specials | Follow. This takes you back to the
> main window with focus on the message you just found.
I didn't know about this one. ;)
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Peter Ouwehand, [PO] wrote:
AM>> At least leave a version 2 that will not drive the IMAP user crazy
AM>> while trying to simply read their mail.
> Allie, I do appreciate the time and effort you and other early adaptors
> spent on V2.yy.zz IMAP.
Sure, but to be truthful, my ear
Hi all,
Take a look at this address picker. It's pretty clear those address
transfer icons that should be little single arrows and double arrows
are all wrong. :)
http://www.ac-martin.com/pics/addresspicker.png
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notifications/alerts
These are all pretty basic problems for an IMAP user. I've grown very
tolerant of them, but was hoping for fixes before having to pay more.
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Current beta is
eing
ignored for IMAP, I didn't really expect a whole new tab. For me, so
long as it works, I'm happy, but for others it would be confusing to
see both functions which seem to do the same thing.
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besides the point'.
If unreleased betas aren't placed at locations where for which a URL
was previously publicly provided, then there would be no problem. No
confusion.
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Running The Bat! v2.13 "
new version.
This looks like a bug that spans msi to msi install.
I didn't do the .msi installation with beta/7 and have not seen the
error you described when doing the beta/8 .msi installation now.
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m for all Inbox filters. I fully expect the prior chaos with the
filters being applied to other folders stopping.
However, the 'Source folder' condition beats me now.
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The Bat! v2.13 "Lucky
past the computer, and noticed
> the HDD light blinking away rather rapidly, so I pull up a chair.
> http://thebat.netdork.net/vm_shot1.png
Wow! This seems a problem with TB! and your specific IMAP server.
I haven't been having memory leak issues for a long time.
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o work when it feels like or doesn't work
at all. It sure beats me why the time of execution of the filter
varies so much.
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The Bat! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/7 · Windows XP Pro (Service P
me for a long time. After
running TB! overnight, it's now using 65MB of memory and 67MB of VM.
That's pretty typical of it. GDI objects 349. However, I have a number
of apps using more GDI objects than TB!, examples, Directory Opus and
MDaemon.
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#x27;t happen all the
the time, but I do get the occasion AV cascade that forces a TB! kill
and restart. I got all sorts of problems apart from AV's with the NFS
enabled when using IMAP, mail loss being one of them, so watch out.
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· My PGP-K
, IMAP filtering
would improve with regard to the behaviour you're describing. I do
know what you're referring to and it's the reason why I still don't
filter most of my IMAP mail using TB!.
> Have I missed something here, or is this the way IMAP mail is going to
> be filtere
L
| Condition01=REPLY-TO|contains|AND|tbudl@|
| Action01=copy to dir|"M:\MDaemon\Users\ac-martin.com\imap\TBUDL.IMAP\"
| Action02=delete|
| Action03=stop processing|
`-
Seems similar to TB! doesn't it? :)
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be where actions are
applied randomly and yet carry out complex actions as this.
The above filter should flag the message, then create a copy and place
it in a specified folder and then delete the original. If that doesn't
occur in sequence then unflagged messages may be copied to the
the message. However,
other actions can be triggered in so long as it has nothing to do with
the direct manipulation of the message that has already been deleted.
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The Bat! v2.12.00 /·\
con specific for IMAP accounts, things are fine.
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. Old age is better than the alternative.
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Allie Martin, [AM] wrote:
> Is this a new thing? The empty trash icon not showing for IMAP
> accounts is a new thing when using this glyph set. It's the same for
> the other one I use at work. It worked just fine before and now the
> empty trash icon is not displaying.
Ok. I
;s the same for
the other one I use at work. It worked just fine before and now the
empty trash icon is not displaying.
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. Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.
pgpwkN73tCtF7.pgp
Description: PG
Hi all,
I've done a search and can't find a report on this cosmetic issue.
When using an external glyph, the empty trash icon for IMAP accounts
is missing.
See attached pic.
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The Bat! v2.12.03 on WinXP Pro (SP2)
. (This
rectory is created in the same
place that the directory I wish to use is. The directory created is
called %Appdata%\Batmail. Why is this new directory structure created
when I've already defined a folder to be used??
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Bernd Distler, [BD] wrote:
> And what would be about my quick-templates, filters and so on?
You've got a point there. :) Those would be gone, but can be backed up
prior to deletion.
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those first before using this new beta.
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. Oxymoron: Terribly Nice.
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Current beta is 2.13 &#x
connection.
I admit though that things work fine for a while, which is unlike you
who can't get things to work at all.
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The Bat! v2.12.04 on WinXP Pro (SP1)
. Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is for
the parked and flagged columns enabled in your message
list then you can toggle the status of messages, by left clicking in
those fields in the message list.
For instance, for flagging, toggle the flagging by clicking on the
flag in the message list or the little red dot if the message isn't
> message? If not, how do I download them?
Upon testing at this end, they seem to be downloaded once I do
something with them, i.e., opening them for viewing or saving them.
I don't know what's happening at your end. :/
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PGPKe
2 months ago.
One other thing. What sync setting are you using. Are you using 'header
and text'. This option will lead to attachments not being downloaded.
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Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote:
> Absolutely agree with it, and Allie recently posted a message asking
> people to change the subject or create a new thread when bugs are
> mentioned.
And I hope that without too much trouble, we'll be put out of our
longstanding and unusually well to
nk - if you don't want to play nice,
> please just delete the rogue account.
The problem is that the autodownload feature fetches the update even
though it's not approved. :(
I'm looking at his head where it shouldn't be, as we speak.
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report in that I
never see the message I was reading again. I have to search for it
manually.
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"Nice going Ritlabs. Good job!!"
"So when is the next release!!"
All bug reports on the beta should be given a new subject header to
reflect what it's specifically about.
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plates similar to what is being used now?
Maybe. I'll see how it goes.
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Current beta is
so for two reasons.
Moderating subjects is intensive but I've now decided to take the
mantle and carry it as much as possible.
I read all messages and hence the subject doesn't really matter to me
personally. So darned selfish but I'm only being honest. :) I'll mend
my ways.
msl files no longer needed?"
- great!! :)
"REquest for Pushpin in the folders view"
- excellent!!! This wasn't just 'another bat wish'.
So you see. We can do it. We just have to pay attention when writing
those new queries. The subject is just as important as the content.
ose who
aren't interested and need an easy way to ignore/filter out the
threads on Smileys. The same goes for IMAP and other features and the
subject header is the best way to provide that means.
Please keep the subjects accurately and meaningfully reflecting what
the message is about.
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these busy lists with the inevitability that many of the messages will
not interest them.
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eat idea and a feature solely
> dependent on the recipient (apart from the handle in the body).
Exactly. Though I congratulated 9Val for spending his free time to
make this a reality, a lot of credit goes to Leif as well. :)
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he header now.
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it to be rebuilt
on the next synchronisation.
See if that helps.
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V's or INVALID HTML
errors while browsing from work while using a slow IMAP server
connection.
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De
operties of each message base or message file come into
it.
The received time is something generated locally based on the time the
message is added to a TB! message base. It has never had anything to
do with the messages themselves and information contained within them
at the time of import/download/tr
'll be implemented in time.
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Current beta is 2.12 Beta
Keith Russell, [KR] wrote:
> I don't know why TB isn't working with SSL, or why it would have
> been working with 2.11.03 and not 2.11.04 or 2.12 Beta/1.
Is ThunderBird working fine using SSL?
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MAP wasn't up to
working well with my connection at work.
I'd stop looking towards TB! and instead at another cause, unless
you're getting a server negotiation that's failing. However, it seems
that you're not even able to reach the server.
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