Hi Carsten,
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:04:14 +0100GMT (06/01/2000, 15:04 +0800GMT),
Carsten Dreesbach wrote:
TF>> Or enable View/From in the editor window. That's what I do. If you
TF>> don't like what you see, you can easily change "from" address by
TF>> eitehr clicking on that little arrow on the r
OK, this takes the cake. Today, because of my discussion with Alex over
Pegasus vs. TB! I downloaded Pegasus, installed it on my work machine, and
tried it out on my home server with both POP and IMAP. Now, a few hours
later, Thomas is reporting getting OLD messages from me. He sent me one
Hello users,
Ok, the rogues gallery is up!
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/rogues.shtml
I still need more pics! The offer is still open to those who don't
have a scanner. Just e-mail me and I'll give you my mailing address,
and I'll scan the photo for you (for free even! ).
Leif Gregory
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Hey Thomas,
Thursday, January 06, 2000, 7:33:08 AM, you wrote:
TF> Or enable View/From in the editor window. That's what I do. If you
TF> don't like what you see, you can easily change "from" address by
TF> eitehr clicking on that little arrow on th
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Hey Frank,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 11:54:24 PM, you wrote:
FL> - i always wondered why there isn't such a thing as "view source". i'd
FL> like to see a _whole_ message in its complete "source", not only the
FL> header of the mail. sometimes (of
Hi Alexander,
you killed this horse before we out here in the Far East even read it.
:-( It has been most educational following your dialogue, as you both
seem to know "the other programme" quite well. Thus, let me comment:
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:54:57 +0300GMT (06/01/2000, 06:54 +0800GMT),
Alexa
Hi Steve,
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:19:59 -0800GMT (06/01/2000, 03:19 +0800GMT),
Steve Lamb wrote:
>> 3. Changing "Send from account..." Is there a more visible way to do
>> this?
SL> Yes, click on the account before sending. ;)
Hello Batmans,
Would U answer, why menu item Tools-PGP-Key Manager says
"Unable to locate PGP Keys application" ?
Yes, path variable is OK.
The Bat! 1.38e, PGP 6.5.1 (6.5.2 the same)
Regards,
3AHO3A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|2:5012/18.2>
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Hello Tim Fountain,
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:20:14 + GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 06, 2000, 12:20:14 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Tim Fountain wrote:
Tim> I've just checked again, but as I thought, I can only export the
Tim> messages into one textfile. I can export them with
Hello Steve Lamb,
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:13:08 -0800 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 06, 2000, 6:13:08 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Steve Lamb wrote:
Steve> Or, what I would do, drag the mail to the right folder, reply, and inform
Steve> him not to use the other addresses for
Hello dMb,
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:25:37 -0500 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 7:25:37 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
dMb wrote:
dMb> I just discovered the hard way that Purging also removes unread mail,
dMb> at least as I currently have TB set up.
dMb> This really isn't
Hello John Sullivan,
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 23:33:09 + GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 06, 2000, 6:33:09 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
John Sullivan wrote:
John> a new contact for each person, adding in the Rogues' Gallery photo.
Where are those?
John> I've done this already fo
Hello Windisch Gergely,
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:14:08 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 5:14:08 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Windisch Gergely wrote:
Windisch> Hello TBUDL,
Windisch> Is it possible make TB move my old messages to another folder? I have
Windisch> a sl
Hello Flower12uk,
I haven't tried it with services like AOL etc., but I do have an IMAP4
account through www.subdimension.com (a free e-mail service, although
it isn't the most reliable.)
IMAP works well enough on there.
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 at 05:08:19 [GMT EST], you wrote:
Fac> Let me tackle
Hello Carsten,
It could be done, but I'm not sure how well that would go over with
the privacy issue (although they've given me permission to use their
photo and e-mail address on the rogues gallery page.)
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 at 14:39:14 [GMT +0100], you wrote:
CD> In that case, is an address b
Hi Lionel,
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:55:33 +0100GMT (05/01/2000, 22:55 +0800GMT),
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
TF>> (I know with Compuserve, you would have to apply for a POP
TF>> account, which robs you of some other features.)
LEM> False. I'm on Compuserve, and using my account via POP did
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.
Can anyone tell me what the above error message means when
downloading email?
I'm running 1.38e. I got home tonight with about 400 messages marked
for download. I can download 10-15 messages; then I get this error
and the download stops. Apparently about half
Hello Alexander,
Thursday, January 06, 2000, 12:32:08 AM, you wrote:
AVK> Okay, Steve, let's finish with this:-) Besides, others here aren't pretty
AVK> interested in all this, as far as I can see.
Wrong - I learn more about TB reading you two than I do using the
program. I can hardly wa
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 05:32:08AM +0300, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
> First of all, you and I use e-mail for different purposes and besides we've
> got different habits of working with it, hence we're not likely to arrive to
> a common denominator here:-) Anyhow, a couple of comments below:
Hi there!
On 5 Jan 00, at 15:13, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat!":
Okay, Steve, let's finish with this:-) Besides, others here aren't pretty
interested in all this, as far as I can see. A couple of final remarks, though.
First of all, you and I use e-mail for different pur
I have a folder set up, under my INBOX, from which I want to send out
messages to a mailing list. This list will be one-way only - outbound from
me. Perhaps someone will reply, but the replies will be to me only, not to
the list.
I have two templates set up, based on the info in the help file u
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 3:37:50 PM, John wrote:
> It would be real nice if The Bat! supported both techniques!
I'd be happy if TB! would have its tray icon in the tray even if it isn't
minimized. For people (*cough, cough*) who use virtual desktops there is a
lot of time when the applic
On Wednesday 5 January 2000 Markus Gloede wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 05, 2000, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
>> Right click on the toolbar for the AAV window and select 'Always on
>> top'.
> The remaining problem is that in this case 'Always' really means
> always, no matter if the Bat! itself
On Wednesday 5 January 2000 Carsten Dreesbach wrote:
> Guess I'm missing something... I guess to then see the pictures, I'd
> have to create an entry in my address book, add the pictures to it and
> then I'd "see" who I'm writing to? ;]
Yes, exactly.
> In that case, is an address book al
Morning Windisch Gergely,
> Is it possible make TB move my old messages to another folder?
Another nice solution is is creating subfolders, or an account with
identical folders, and set up filters to copy everything to those
folders and purge the stuff in your working folders. Of course, this
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 2:54:57 PM, Alexander wrote:
>> No, there is a lot more to it than that.
> Having read this message of yours, I still don't see other differences...
Forcing the user to filter to gain a sane default is the difference.
> For you, but not for me.
Right.
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 2:54:21 PM, Keith wrote:
> A separate ACCOUNT? So did you totally recreate your folder structure
> there? Every time you add a new folder, do you have to add it to both
> accounts? Or did I misunderstand what you're doing?
Yes, a separate account. You must keep i
hi there.
i've installed "the bat!" for a few weeks now, i think it's a somewhat
"nice" software, but some things keep nagging me:
- i always wondered why there isn't such a thing as "view source". i'd
like to see a _whole_ message in its complete "source", not only the
header of the mail. somet
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.
On Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 12:18:03 PM, Steve wrote:
> Tuesday, January 04, 2000, 2:14:08 PM, Windisch wrote:
>> Is it possible make TB move my old messages to another folder?
> Automatically? I don't believe so.
> Personally I just created a separate ar
Hi there!
On 5 Jan 00, at 14:14, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat!":
> > Seems that the two things that you call "multiple accounts" and "multiple
> > instances" differ only when the folder structure is concerned.
>
> No, there is a lot more to it than that.
Having read
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 1:48:56 PM, Alexander wrote:
> Seems that the two things that you call "multiple accounts" and "multiple
> instances" differ only when the folder structure is concerned.
No, there is a lot more to it than that.
> At least, in the case of Pegasus. In PMail, two id
Hi there!
On 5 Jan 00, at 12:26, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat!":
> > Nope, doesn't sound like it then from the rest of your description. It
> > has "Accounts" as in completely separate instances of Pegasus but not
> > "accounts" as in different mail accounts in a single
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Hey Steve,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 8:16:19 PM, you wrote:
SL> Tuesday, January 04, 2000, 1:11:46 PM, Windisch wrote:
>> Oooops, sorry for these hungarian characters and quotation.
>> I've just subscribed to this list and I haven't made It's own
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 9:20:14 AM, Tim wrote:
> What exactly is the UNIX mailbox format? I would have thought that
> would be my best bet here, but it doesn't seem to work.
Here is an example...
>From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 25 04:43:48 1999
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
F
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Hey cid,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 6:57:20 PM, you wrote:
cin> Hello!
cin> I was wondering if there are any options anywhere to tone down the
cin> confirmation
cin> dialogs? There seem to be lots. I don't mind the ones where it could
cin> be
ci
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 12:07:27 PM, Steve wrote:
> Nope, doesn't sound like it then from the rest of your description. It
> has "Accounts" as in completely separate instances of Pegasus but not
> "accounts" as in different mail accounts in a single instance.
I was correct. It does
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Hey Tim,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 6:06:59 PM, you wrote:
>> Can you tell us which e-mail client you've been using so far?
TF> Pluto.
>> Maybe someone else here has had some experience with it
TF> I think that's unlikely. Pluto is one of
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 11:59:47 AM, Alexander wrote:
> I don't think so, David Harris isn't expected to rewrite *everything*:-) In
> fact, *I* personally have nothing against MDI. As you, I use virtual
> desktops alot, but contrary to you, MDI doesn't prevent me from working
> efficiently. I
Hi there!
On 5 Jan 00, at 11:22, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: Pegasus vs. The Bat!":
> > For version 3.2 (expected to be released in February, this year) alot of visual
> > improvements are planned. Besides, what version of PMail were you using?
>
> I have to ask.
You're wellcome:-)
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 11:04:41 AM, Alexander wrote:
> For version 3.2 (expected to be released in February, this year) alot of visual
> improvements are planned. Besides, what version of PMail were you using?
I have to ask. Will they finally drop the MDI interface? I don't mind
MDI
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 10:38:45 AM, cid wrote:
> 3. Changing "Send from account..." Is there a more visible way to do
> this?
Yes, click on the account before sending. ;)
Pegasus mail, IIRC, does not have completely s
Tuesday, January 04, 2000, 2:14:08 PM, Windisch wrote:
> Is it possible make TB move my old messages to another folder?
Automatically? I don't believe so.
Personally I just created a separate archive account and move messages
from my main account to that account once a month. Shift-sel
Tuesday, January 04, 2000, 1:11:46 PM, Windisch wrote:
> Oooops, sorry for these hungarian characters and quotation.
> I've just subscribed to this list and I haven't made It's own
> templates :) Sorry again :)
That's ok, I thought it was Klingon. :)
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Hi there!
On 5 Jan 00, at 13:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about "Pegasus vs. The Bat!":
As you might see, I *am* using Pegasus right now:-) So here are my answers.
> I am a 5 year user of Pmail, and love that program alot as(aside from being
> free :) it has a lot of the features I really l
Hello TBUDL,
Is it possible make TB move my old messages to another folder? I have
a slow machine and I have 8000 messages in the sent folder, 3000 in
the inbox and more than 5000 in other folders and thus it takes ages
to go from one folder to another. (sometimes my machine freeses for 20
second
> 2000. januar 4. 20:47 -kor irtad:
[...]
> Windisch Gergely
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ICQ:16688379
> "Csak ne kapd el!"
Oooops, sorry for these hungarian characters and quotation.
I've just subscribed to this list and I haven't made It's own
templates :) Sorry again :)
Bye!
Windisch Gergely
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Sorry for the terrible formatting on this post. This web based email
must truncate when it sends, even though it doesn't do it in the
editor window. Please forgive me! :)
Best Regards,
Derek Cedillo
At Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:38:45 -0500, I wrote:
>Hello,
>I'm a new The Bat user, and considering regi
Hello,
I'm a new The Bat us
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 04:11:52 +0300, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
> But this last (or topmost) Received: stamp should be machine-dependant, not
> otherwise. Right now TB does just the same, but putting this info into the folder
> index file directly. This results in:
> 1. If the message is got fro
Hello!
I was wondering if there are any options anywhere to tone down the
confirmation
dialogs? There seem to be lots. I don't mind the ones where it could
be
a permanent problem (like deleting a folder full of messages), but
when I click
"Ctrl-Enter" to send my message, I don't need to be
ask
On Wednesday, January 05, 2000, Travisimo! wrote:
> Tuesday, January 04, 2000, 7:28:42 PM, Tim Fountain wrote:
>> I can export all the messages in one textfile, or each message
>> individually. However, I can't export all the messages individually,
>> at the same time. Does that make sense?
On Wednesday, January 05, 2000, Carsten Dreesbach wrote:
> Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 2:28:42 AM, you wrote:
>>> Note: I'm a new user too and I just went through this. It's really
>>> not that hard if you can export them all at once and as long as they
>>> contain all of the headers in each
On Wednesday, January 05, 2000, Carsten Dreesbach wrote:
> Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 1:42:16 PM, you wrote:
TF I can export all the messages in one textfile, or each message
TF individually. However, I can't export all the messages
TF individually, at the same time. Does that m
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 3:48:59 AM, Carsten wrote:
CR>> And here we go (translation mode: quick'n'dirty...)
CR>> "'The Bat! 1.22'
CR>> The IMAP-implementation is a joke. As for a POP account The Bat!
CR>> downloads all mails on the hard drive and deletes them from the
CR>> server. That has
Tuesday, January 04, 2000, 7:28:42 PM, Tim Fountain wrote:
> I can export all the messages in one textfile, or each message
> individually. However, I can't export all the messages individually,
> at the same time. Does that make sense?
You can export messages to individual files if you setup
Hello Thomas,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 5:17:19 AM, you wrote:
TF> (I know with Compuserve, you would have to apply for a POP
TF> account, which robs you of some other features.)
False. I'm on Compuserve, and using my account via POP didn't rob me
any feature. This is relatively
Hi,
On Wednesday, January 05, 2000, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
> Right click on the toolbar for the AAV window and select 'Always on
> top'.
The remaining problem is that in this case 'Always' really means
always, no matter if the Bat! itself is minimized or in the
background (doesn't have the
Hi Fred,
On 05 January 2000 at 08:07:45 GMT -0500 (which was 13:07 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
FW> on my win98 machine, it doesn't seem to react when I click on a
FW> 'mailto:' link in Netscape.
FW> Suggestions please.
Please refer to the FAQ http://www.
>>TheBat does nothing when I click on a mailto.
>>
>>Suggestions please.
> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml#Mailto: (browser)
Works just like it's supposed to!!!
Thanks again.
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In a message dated 01/05/2000 10:57:28 AM GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I seem to remember a test the German c't (computer magazine) made here
> a few months ago. In that (if I remember correctly) they reported some
> difficulties with IMAP4 and the then-current version o
Hello John,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 2:20:54 PM, you wrote:
>> btw ; how do you view the pics from TB! ; with 'View - Address auto-view' ??
>> every time i select a new message, TB! pushes the address window to the
>> background :-( is there a 'stay on top' setting somewhere ??
JS> Yes -
>>TheBat does nothing when I click on a mailto.
>>Suggestions please.
> http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml#Mailto: (browser)
Downloading now.
I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks for the fast reply.
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courage to cha
Hi Rob,
On 05 January 2000 at 12:58:02 GMT +0100 (which was 11:58 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
R> btw ; how do you view the pics from TB! ; with 'View - Address
R> auto-view' ?? every time i select a new message, TB! pushes the
R> address window to
On Wednesday 5 January 2000 Rob wrote:
> btw ; how do you view the pics from TB! ; with 'View - Address auto-view' ??
> every time i select a new message, TB! pushes the address window to the
> background :-( is there a 'stay on top' setting somewhere ??
Yes - right-click on the Address Viewer
>TheBat does nothing when I click on a mailto.
>
>Suggestions please.
http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/howdoi.shtml#Mailto: (browser)
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I've been using TheBat for a little more than a week now, after using
Agent for many years. While Bat is set to be the default mail client
on my win98 machine, it doesn't seem to react when I click on a
'mailto:' link in Netscape. If I did this in my Agent days, the
e-mail address would be paste
Hello Allie,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 1:42:16 PM, you wrote:
TF>>> I can export all the messages in one textfile, or each message
TF>>> individually. However, I can't export all the messages
TF>>> individually, at the same time. Does that make sense?
>> Have you tried exporting into
>CR> "'The Bat! 1.22'
>CR> The IMAP-implementation is a joke. As for a POP account The Bat!
>CR> downloads all mails on the hard drive and deletes them from the
>CR> server. That has nothing to do with server-based administration."
>
>*grin* Thanks, saves me having to look it up... And yes, I
On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:54:52 +0100, Carsten Dreesbach wrote:
TF>> I can export all the messages in one textfile, or each message
TF>> individually. However, I can't export all the messages
TF>> individually, at the same time. Does that make sense?
> Can you tell us which e-mail client you've
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, Martyn Drake wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about
Incoming mail word wrapping:
MD> I can see auto-wrap under Options, Edit Preferences, and that is
MD> ticked, but only when editing or creating a new message does auto-wrap
MD> kick in. When
I just discovered the hard way that Purging also removes unread mail,
at least as I currently have TB set up.
This really isn't a good thing for me.
Is there anyway to prevent purging of unread messages? I looked
around but couldn't find the setting.
Thanks.
Derek
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On 05 January 2000, Oleg Zalyalov wrote:-
MD>> Can The Bat! currently handle automatic word wrapping of any
MD>> viewable messages (i.e. messages that aren't being edited, but
MD>> rather just viewed in a seperate viewing window)?
> Both view and edit windows share the same setting
> Preferences
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, Martyn Drake wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
Incoming mail word wrapping:
MD> Can The Bat! currently handle automatic word wrapping of any viewable
MD> messages (i.e. messages that aren't being edited, but rather just
MD> viewed in a
>I've got most of the rogue gallery done, but I need more user pics.
btw ; how do you view the pics from TB! ; with 'View - Address auto-view' ??
every time i select a new message, TB! pushes the address window to the
background :-( is there a 'stay on top' setting somewhere ??
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Hello Claudius,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 12:33:18 PM, you wrote:
CD>> I seem to remember a test the German c't (computer magazine) made here
CD>> a few months ago. In that (if I remember correctly) they reported some
CD>> difficulties with IMAP4 and the then-current version of TB!.
CR>
Hello Carsten,
CD> I seem to remember a test the German c't (computer magazine) made here
CD> a few months ago. In that (if I remember correctly) they reported some
CD> difficulties with IMAP4 and the then-current version of TB!.
And here we go (translation mode: quick'n'dirty...)
"'The Bat
Hello,
Can The Bat! currently handle automatic word wrapping of any viewable
messages (i.e. messages that aren't being edited, but rather just
viewed in a seperate viewing window)?
Regards,
Martyn
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Using The Bat! 1.38e under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6
Web
Hello Tim,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 2:28:42 AM, you wrote:
>> Note: I'm a new user too and I just went through this. It's really
>> not that hard if you can export them all at once and as long as they
>> contain all of the headers in each text message.
TF> I can export all the messages in
On Saturday, January 01, 2000, dMb wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>> I'm a new user of The Bat! and I'd like to import my archived emails
>> from my old email client into The Bat. However, my old email client
>> only has two export options: to save each invididual message as a text
>> file (which althoug
Hello Flower12uk,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 6:08:19 AM, you wrote:
Fac> TB! is supposed to be IMAP4 compatible, and I know that ppl have used Eudora
Fac> and Outlook express to access aol mail but I want to be able to use the power
Fac> of TB! As far as I can work out there's no reason why i
> Fac> I didn't find the help file that useful on IMAP4 the aol protocol, but
I'
> ve
> Fac> got the imap server set-up etc but although the bat seems to get in
and
> check
> Fac> mail boxes (in/sent) it doesn't download any email even when there
are
> new
> Fac> email waiting.
>
> I
Hi Thomas,
On 05 January 2000 at 13:25:27 GMT +0800 (which was 05:25 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:
>>> Steve, who's side are you on? ;-)
SL>> The good side. Just pointing out what an inventive person can do with
SL>> that ready supply of unwanted ammunitio
>Fac> I didn't find the help file that useful on IMAP4 the aol protocol, but
>Fac> I've got the imap server set-up etc but although the bat seems to get
>Fac> in and check mail boxes (in/sent) it doesn't download any email even
>Fac> when there are new email waiting.
>
>I see there is no reply to
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Hey Thomas,
Wednesday, January 05, 2000, 5:12:04 AM, you wrote:
CD>> However, I know that some web-based services offer auto-replies.
CD>> Yahoo e-mail offers an automatic vacation response, however the problem
CD>> there is that everyone w
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