Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Januk, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:31:01 -0800GMT (18/01/2000, 15:31 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA %From=""%From="%FROMNAME %FromAddr (By way of %OTOADDR)" I have modified the QT as above, which works quite fantastically. :-) However, it works as long as one of my addresses is the original

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 12:23:20 AM, you wrote: Hi Januk, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:31:01 -0800GMT (18/01/2000, 15:31 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA %From=""%From="%FROMNAME %FromAddr (By way of %OTOADDR)" I have modified the QT as above, which works quite

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 12:23:20 AM, you wrote: Hi Januk, On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:31:01 -0800GMT (18/01/2000, 15:31 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA %From=""%From="%FROMNAME %FromAddr (By way of %OTOADDR)" Ok, I've finally got one that does what I like best. See my

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:18:28 -0800, Januk Aggarwal wrote: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've gone over this, Allie. At first glance that is going to the right place because of TB!'s broken behavior, configurable or not. Ok, but why would you *intentionally* put the wrong reply-to

Re[2]: External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-18 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Monday, January 17, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to Allie Martin about External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list): SL When you look at the base level and how to handle the data as SL ASCII editing with all the functions that are similar, you see SL

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:06:20 +0400, Oleg Zalyalov wrote: [..snip..] That is not a problem with external editor which allow scripting. The problems begin only when you use macros which use information unavailable to external editor, just because it's external. One of examples

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about suggestion- / wish-list: OZ That is not a problem with external editor which allow scripting. The OZ problems begin only when you use macros which use information OZ unavailable

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Januk, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:49:26 -0800GMT (18/01/2000, 16:49 +0800GMT), Januk Aggarwal wrote: JA %From=""%From="%FROMNAME %FromAddr (By way of %FOLDERFROMNAME %FOLDERFROMADDR)" Excellent!! This it is!! :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.39 under

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Tom, On 18 January 2000 at 17:50:56 GMT -0800 (which was 01:50 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: AVK Please, don't do this! Maybe as an option only;-) It's thel AVK thing I like *most* in TB's editor, morethenthat, I use *only* AVK the editors that support

Re[2]: Error Messages

2000-01-18 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Monday, January 17, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about Error Messages: TF No; this happens to me often. The error message than is: "Server TF reports error: previous process active. Press cancel before retrying." TF or something like that. I

Re: Another MailingList Bug? [was Re: Redirect (Bounce)]

2000-01-18 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Januk, On 18 January 2000 at 23:43:39 GMT -0800 (which was 07:43 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: JA Monday, January 17, 2000, 11:31:01 PM, you wrote: From originalwith whatever JA Ok, this is weird, when I was composing the above

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, Allie Martin wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about suggestion- / wish-list: AM So what's your axe against TB! supporting an external editor? No, it is against removing current internal editor. It is just my personal opinion said by the way

Re: Error Messages

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Oleg, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:18:02 +0400GMT (18/01/2000, 17:18 +0800GMT), Oleg Zalyalov wrote: OZ First, you have to check how did the previous session finished and why. Thanks for your explanation. The previous session usually finished by my DUN connection going click-dood-dood- That's

Re[2]: Error Messages

2000-01-18 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote to Oleg Zalyalov about Error Messages: TF Hi Oleg, TF On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:18:02 +0400GMT (18/01/2000, 17:18 +0800GMT), TF Oleg Zalyalov wrote: OZ First, you have to check how did the previous session

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Januk Aggarwal, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 at 00:49:26 [GMT -0800] your local time which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000 15:49:26 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told to the list: JA %From=""%From="%FROMNAME %FromAddr (By way of %OTOADDR)" JA Ok, I've finally got one that does what I like

Re: Another MailingList Bug? [was Re: Redirect (Bounce)]

2000-01-18 Thread Markus Gloede
Hi, regarding that From bug: this is something that some mail transport agents (probably list softwares, too) do on purpose. In old Unix mailbox formats a line beginning with "From " was recognized as a new message delimiter. Thus it may happen that messages that had "From" somewhere in the

Newsreading with Bat?

2000-01-18 Thread Grant Baxter
I'm a long time user of Agent, and have to admit that this is the first program to come along in _years_ that turned my head at all! I really like the functionality of the Bat. However, mail is probably only 1/4 of my needs. The other 3/4 is newsgroups. Are there any plans to add newsgroup

Re: Error Messages

2000-01-18 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Oleg Zalyalov, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 at 15:13:21 [GMT +0400] your local time which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000 18:13:21 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told to the list: [ ... ] TF However, how do I send this QUIT command to the server. OZ No way in this case. You have to wait those

disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-18 Thread Roel
Hello Everybody, when you've got a contact with 2 (or more) email-adresses, everytime you create a new message using the adress-book, the mail is auto-bcc'ed to the second address... how can i disable this? -- Der Immer Jodelende Schweizer In Lederhosen Roel

testrun: interface bugs and inconsistencies

2000-01-18 Thread Jast
Morning All Y'All! Because of the lack of a better activity, and testing being a hobby of mine, I felt like doing a little testrun over The Bat interface. Here's what came out: Request for Comment/Confirmation before "official" submission ;-) Some might be known already, but are still

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, January 17, 2000, 8:52:12 PM, Jast wrote: - take hand off kb, grab for mouse (ca .5 sec, not much more than moving it to PgUp on the keyboard) Move hand to PgUp - use scrollbar to move up 9 pages (usually faster than 9x PgUp, gets quicker

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, January 17, 2000, 10:18:28 PM, Januk wrote: Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] We've gone over this, Allie. At first glance that is going to the right place because of TB!'s broken behavior, configurable or not. Ok, but why would you *intentionally* put the wrong reply-to in your

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, January 17, 2000, 9:36:43 PM, Januk wrote: No problem. :) Just another quick tip, make a quick template that has %TO="" %TO="Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] (By way of Jane "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") Oh god, *NO!* That has to be the worst suggestion I have ever seen. This is emulating Eudora's

Re: Another MailingList Bug? [was Re: Redirect (Bounce)]

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, January 17, 2000, 11:49:10 PM, Januk wrote: Of course now I can not reproduce the bug if I try. sigh From shouldn't be anything special, should it? Yes, it is. Why the extra ? You're server is using the mailbox format which uses "^From " as the marker between text (^ is regex for

Re: External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:02:28 AM, Oleg wrote: I don't need excellent editor for editing mail. I am quite happy with mediocre one. The main thing I want from it -- speed. That is you. You're not me and, well, the other 6 billion people on this planet. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: testrun: interface bugs and inconsistencies

2000-01-18 Thread Nick Danger
In Reference to "testrun: interface bugs and inconsistencies" From Jast: J Morning All Y'All! Did you learn that from watching Dallas reruns over there?? I hear that on a daily basis around these parts. J Because of the lack of a better activity, Gee Jast, time on your hands?? Do we need to

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:15:11 AM, Marck wrote: No - so that you can begin to understand the power of the virtual space for plain text formatting. With space cansome things. virtual you do interesting Without it - no possibility.

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:41:55 AM, Oleg wrote: It is just my personal opinion said by the way that adding some kind of a hook for external editor to TB! will not save time to RITlabs to be more concentrated on mail-specific functions. Then you haven't thought it through. Add

Re: Newsreading with Bat?

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:10:22 AM, Grant wrote: I'm a long time user of Agent, and have to admit that this is the first program to come along in _years_ that turned my head at all! I really like the functionality of the Bat. However, mail is probably only 1/4 of my needs. The other 3/4 is

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Steve, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:17:12 -0800 GMT (18.01.2000, 23:17 +0800 GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: %TO="Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] (By way of Jane "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") SL Oh god, *NO!* That has to be the worst suggestion I have ever seen. This SL is emulating Eudora's /very/ broken

Re: disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hallo Roel, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:46:28 +0100 GMT (18.01.2000, 22:46 +0800 GMT), Roel wrote: R when you've got a contact with 2 (or more) email-adresses, everytime R you create a new message using the adress-book, the mail is R auto-bcc'ed to the second address... R how can i disable

Re: External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-18 Thread Nick Danger
In Reference to "External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)" From Steve Lamb: I don't need excellent editor for editing mail. I am quite happy with mediocre one. The main thing I want from it -- speed. SL That is you. You're not me and, well, the other 6 billion people on this SL

Re[2]: disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-18 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Thomas, TF Do they have the same name? I use (for example) Roel/Home and TF Roel/Office and don't have the problem you describe. no, i mean

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 7:38:45 AM, Thomas wrote: Make a constructive suggestion. ;-) I did. Encouraging broken behavior is not to be done, period. That is broken behavior. By using it you cause problems. By not using it you don't cause problems. That is constructive. --

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 17 Jan 00, at 17:50, Tom Plunket wrote about "Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list": AVK Press downdownhome instead;-) MDP it's only one additional keystroke after all. Umm, it's 50% more typing. See, the problem doesn't manifest itself 'til you're actually trying to use

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Alexander V. Kiselev
Hi there! On 18 Jan 00, at 7:32, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: suggestion- / wish-list": It is just my personal opinion said by the way that adding some kind of a hook for external editor to TB! will not save time to RITlabs to be more concentrated on mail-specific functions.

Re: disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-18 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Roel, On 18 January 2000 at 17:04:49 GMT +0100 (which was 16:04 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: TF Do they have the same name? I use (for example) Roel/Home and TF Roel/Office and don't have the problem you describe. R no, i mean this: R i've got 1

Re[2]: disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-18 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Marck, MDP Yes, but it's the way it works :-( too bad: that only creates massive overheads in the adressbook... also: keeping info up to date

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Steve, On 18 January 2000 at 07:31:12 GMT -0800 (which was 15:31 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: TP Seriously, the reason I don't like virtual space have nothing to TP do with the fact that I'm not used to it. Now you're not making any sense. With

DNS problem?

2000-01-18 Thread Michael Heydekamp
Hello The Bat! users, on Jan 10th our domain was finally moved to another ISP, about two days later the whole mail traffic came in via the new mail server. Except all the incoming mail of TBUDL - this is still going to our former ISP and I still have to fetch it from there (fortunately our

Re: DNS problem?

2000-01-18 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
-Original Message- From: Michael Heydekamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:55:44 +0100 Subject: DNS problem? on Jan 10th our domain was finally moved to another ISP, about two days later the whole mail traffic came in via the new mail server. Normally,

Re: DNS problem?

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:55:44 AM, Michael wrote: Does any of the experts here have an idea what's going on and what I can do about that? Shouldn't they also in Indonesia be aware of the new DNS data? Depends on the expire time on the zone file. If it is set to a week with, say, a

Re: testrun: interface bugs and inconsistencies

2000-01-18 Thread Tom Plunket
J Because of the lack of a better activity, and testing being a hobby of mine, J I felt like doing a little testrun over The Bat interface. Heh... ok, how about this: message list message view account view Ctrl+] nothing next unread

Re: DNS problem?

2000-01-18 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
-Original Message- From: "Syafril Hermansyah" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 02:26:23 +0700 Subject: Re: DNS problem? -Original Message- From: Michael Heydekamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:55:44 +0100 Subject:

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Tom Plunket
TP Well, you two aren't typical Windows users. As it goes, virtual TP spacel has some people who like it and others who don't. MDP Tom - that's not reasonable. Which of you is a typical Windows sheep then? MDP We're both *very different users* who happen to agree on this MDP point.

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:40:09 AM, Marck wrote: Of course the external editor option looks more attractive all the time. OF course it does. You'd think with Unix folks building on pushing 30 years of computing experience they'd get a few things right. I still find it amusing that a

Re: testrun: interface bugs and inconsistencies

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:00:20 -0800, Tom Plunket wrote: [..snip..] So, can I navigate the freaking program without tabbing all over the universe? I listen to your troubles with some amusement because I understand. You forgot the part about spacebar-scrolling through messages and suddenly

Just installed TB! Have question

2000-01-18 Thread Gary
Hi TB! Group, I just installed TB! 2 days ago, and I just cannot believe this emailer. I have never seen so much functionality, and I have just scratched the surface of it. So much to play with, and it is so customizable. Was a previous Outlook 2000 and Eudora 4.2 user. Have a

Re[3]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Tom, TP Right, atypical of the standard Windows crowd. Tell me, when you set TP up Windows, does either one of you choose "Typical

Re: Just installed TB! Have question

2000-01-18 Thread Alex Sanyukovitch
Hello Gary, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:58:15 PM, you wrote: G Is there anyway to use the same directories and open up the same as G email as I have on the W98 side? I do exactly the same but with Win98 and NT 4.0. No problem so far... ;-)) -- Best regards, Alex Sanyukovitch 11:18:54 PM

Re: Newsreading with Bat?

2000-01-18 Thread Grant Baxter
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:49:09 -0800, you wrote: GB I'm a long time user of Agent, and have to admit that this is the GB first program to come along in _years_ that turned my head at all! I GB really like the functionality of the Bat. However, mail is probably GB only 1/4 of my needs. The other

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:17:45 PM, Roel wrote: all the 'crap' is removed :-) don't worry about it: it isn't there... I can think of one that is there. One that they had to put a special case in just for all of this foofie cursor play. ;) TP I agree with Steve. If I put four spaces

Re: Just installed TB! Have question

2000-01-18 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Gary, G Is there anyway to use the same directories and open up the same as G email as I have on the W98 side? you can do this while setting

PGP 6.5.3

2000-01-18 Thread Oliver Sturm
Hi there, I got PGP 6.5.3 now, seems to be quite new... just wanted to tell the other folks interested in PGP that this one seems to be working well with The Bat! Checking signatures works again at long last, although not automatic ;) I installed it on Win2k, which works generally, but I

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Monday, January 17, 2000, 9:26:45 AM, Thomas wrote: Semantic difference. What I meant is the client default, of course. Then say that. My client is TB!, not Thomas Fernandez. ;P I don't think so. Both are not regulated by the RFC's or whereever, and it is only common agreemens -

Re: Newsreading with Bat?

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:16:58 PM, Grant wrote: No, not really. Use Outlook, it does both. Agent does both, from what I hear. I'd much rather prefer to keep this specialized client specialized since it is so damned hard to find a good specialized client in this madness to include

Re[2]: Just installed TB! Have question

2000-01-18 Thread Gary
Hi Roel and Alex, On Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 3:27:39 PM, you wrote: R you can do this while setting up your accounts: R instead of the default-path, choose a fixed one on a shared R partition... R that's all... Thank you both for your help. Makes perfect sense! So much to learn in TB!

Re: PGP 6.5.3

2000-01-18 Thread Gary
Hi Oliver, On Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 3:28:20 PM, you wrote: O Hi there, O I got PGP 6.5.3 now, seems to be quite new... just wanted to tell the O other folks interested in PGP that this one seems to be working well O with The Bat! Checking signatures works again at long last, although

Re: Newsreading with Bat?

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:16:58 -0500, Grant Baxter wrote: [..snip..] No, not really. Anyone (like me) that has interests in things that span both newsgroups and maillists, would like (as I do) to be able to file pertinent info from both newsgroups _and_ maillists into the same folder. For

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:42:04 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: [..snip..] conceded with content :) Unlike the "do you REALLY want to delete this" prompts from Windows which are ineffective. I know they are coming, I slam the enter key already while flying on autopilot so it confirms nothing.

Re[2]: PGP 6.5.3

2000-01-18 Thread Oliver Sturm
Hi Gary, On Dienstag, 18. Januar 2000 at 22:57:22 you wrote: O I got PGP 6.5.3 now, seems to be quite new... just wanted to tell the O other folks interested in PGP that this one seems to be working well O with The Bat! Checking signatures works again at long last, although O not

Re[2]: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Tom Plunket
SL Incorrect. REPLY-TO is a matter of at least RFC822. RFC822 does dictate SL what purposes REPLY-TO can be employed for and puts forth acceptable use of SL that field. I would bet that it does not require a prompt, though, as you say: SL Further, convention is that there is at least

Wish list

2000-01-18 Thread Gary
Hello group, I would like to see this little feature. If TB! is minimized on the taskbar, I would like the ability to right click on the TB! tab, while in the taskbar and have the option (other than close or restore) to fetch mail now from all accounts (without opening the TB! window). This

Re: Wish list

2000-01-18 Thread Nick Danger
In Reference to "Wish list" From Gary: G I would like to see this little feature. If TB! is minimized on the G taskbar, I would like the ability to right click on the TB! tab, while G in the taskbar and have the option (other than close or restore) to G fetch mail now from all accounts

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Tom, On 18 January 2000 at 12:33:36 GMT -0800 (which was 20:33 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: TP do you EVER choose "typical installation"? Absolutely never. What's your point? TP Plain-text formatting? That's ridiculous. My example was inane, I accept

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Tom, On 18 January 2000 at 12:37:24 GMT -0800 (which was 20:37 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: TP Are they really gone? Yes. TP Does anybody know FOR SURE? Me, for one. You, if you tried it for yourself. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:40:33 -0800, Tom Plunket wrote: ...that other programs prompt is not at issue. What if the solution was to NOT prompt, but to offer an easy way to change to other addresses (or other fields, what have you)? Like, say, a droplist when editing your message, and you

Re[3]: Error Messages

2000-01-18 Thread tracer
Hello Oleg Zalyalov, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:13:21 +0400 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 6:13:21 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Oleg Zalyalov wrote: TF Thanks for your explanation. The previous session usually finished by TF my DUN connection going click-dood-dood-

Re[2]: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread tracer
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:38:45 +0800 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:38:45 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Thomas Hallo Steve, Thomas On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:17:12 -0800 GMT (18.01.2000, 23:17 +0800 GMT), Thomas Steve Lamb

Re[2]: External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-18 Thread tracer
Hello Nick Danger, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:56:41 -0600 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:56:41 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Nick Danger wrote: Nick In Reference to "External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)" From Steve Lamb: I don't need excellent editor for

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Steve, On 18 January 2000 at 12:39:12 GMT -0800 (which was 20:39 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: SL *Steve then points out that in some editors that isn't needed SL since it retains the column that the cursor was last in, even on SL short lines, even

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 3:40:33 PM, Tom wrote: ...that other programs prompt is not at issue. If one is trying to argue based on convention alone, it is. What others do is what dictates convention. What if the solution was to NOT prompt, but to offer an easy way to change to other

Re: Wish list

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 4:44:18 PM, Gary wrote: taskbar, I would like the ability to right click on the TB! tab, while Options / Minimize to Tray -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:03:19 +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: TP Power. You keep implying that useless features are powerful. Useless to you, perhaps. Ditto. The free caret interface rocks. The *free* caret is just that. *Free*. You may do what you want with it in the visible space.

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Tom Plunket
TP do you EVER choose "typical installation"? MDP Absolutely never. What's your point? My point was the fact that the people I was talking to took issue with the fact that I stated these people were atypical Windows users. I was pointing out that I was, indeed, dead-on. TP Plain-text

On editors and wishlists

2000-01-18 Thread Tom Plunket
Ok, so I've been shopping for a new email client, and The Bat! seems to be working relatively well. Without going into evangelism, can anyone give me any pros/cons of the "competition" as compared to The Bat!? I've downloaded Calypso but have yet to install it. Haven't used Eudora in years.

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone
Hi Allie, On 19 January 2000 at 20:20:26 GMT -0500 (which was 01:20 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points: An aside: if The Bat! strips virtual space, do sigdashes go out improperly formatted? In other words, do we get dashdashspace or are we stuck with

Re[2]: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Roel
\\\|/// / ~ _ \ (- O o -) --oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Hello Marck, MDP Ahem - I don't think that actually works. Spaces at EOL are only MDP preserved in templates from my experimentation. So we

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:38:48 PM, Tom wrote: So, then, on the arguement that you cite and seem to support, what are your thoughts of adding NNTP support to The Bat!? We've discussed it at length. Certainly that seems like a slightly larger proposition than a few checkboxes in the

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Steve Lamb
Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 5:20:05 PM, Marck wrote: SL *Steve then points out that in some editors that isn't needed SL since it retains the column that the cursor was last in, even on SL short lines, even if it positions the cursor on column 1 for the SL one line between.* :) Ah - so

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:42:04 -0800GMT (19/01/2000, 05:42 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: SL The reply-to behavior is not a convention. It is a prompt or an option SL for a prompt. It is partially dictated by a formal document (RFC822) and SL therefore is closer to a standard than a

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Syafril, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 3:13:34 AM, you wrote: The most problem for me with TB!'s redirect is *not create* X-sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the "redirect message" as Eudora did. Are you saying you *want* TB! to put in the X-sender field? If so, try redirecting

Re: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Tom, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:38:48 -0800GMT (19/01/2000, 09:38 +0800GMT), Tom Plunket wrote: TP I started programming 18 years ago. All of the editors I used did, TP indeed, have what we could call virtual space. Well, I started programming 22 years ago, and some our very first programmes

Re: Replt-To in mailing list (Was: mailto: in Signatures)

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:49:28 +, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: -- Ahem - I don't think that actually works. Spaces at EOL are only preserved in templates from my experimentation. So we actually do get dashdash no space. What's more, If we have the temerity to let the cursor wander

Re: Internal Editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Tom, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:20:10 -0800GMT (19/01/2000, 04:20 +0800GMT), Tom Plunket wrote: TP Hey, do it a thousand times. That's a thousand wasted keystrokes. TP I'm not saying one stroke is bad, but over the course of a day, it'd TP be nice to have things behave like you expect. Hit the

Re: testrun: interface bugs and inconsistencies

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Tom, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:00:20 -0800GMT (19/01/2000, 04:00 +0800GMT), Tom Plunket wrote: TP Is there a way to turn off that stupid (to me) quick search? I don't TP want to quick search when I hit 'r', I meant to reply but am still TP used to Agent... I'm looking forward to turning that

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Steve, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:17:09 -0800GMT (19/01/2000, 00:17 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: Make a constructive suggestion. ;-) SL I did. Encouraging broken behavior is not to be done, period. That is SL broken behavior. By using it you cause problems. By not using it you don't SL

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:11:29 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: No. Constructive means you have an idea what to "do", not what to "not do". (If that is English.) Your suggestion for redirect behaviour would be to just leave the from addr intact? So you actually want to hide the fact that you are

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Januk Aggarwal, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 at 19:27:17 [GMT -0800] your local time which was Wednesday, January 19, 2000 10:27:17 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told to the list: The most problem for me with TB!'s redirect is *not create* X-sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the

Re: Another MailingList Bug? [was Re: Redirect (Bounce)]

2000-01-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Markus, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 3:24:18 AM, you wrote: Hi, regarding that From bug: this is something that some mail transport agents (probably list softwares, too) do on purpose. In old Unix mailbox formats a line beginning with "From " was recognized as a new message

Re: testrun: interface bugs and inconsistencies

2000-01-18 Thread Jast
Morning Tom Plunket, message list message view account view Ctrl+] nothing next unread next unread i think you meant: Ctrl+] next unread nothing next unread But I do agree this is another inconsistency

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Allie, On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:27:01 -0500GMT (19/01/2000, 12:27 +0800GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM May I? Sure. ;-) AM If the recipient doesn't really want to see the original message AM headers then forward the message. Ah, but forwarding and redirecting are different things. If

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Allie Martin
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:49:09 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Ah, but forwarding and redirecting are different things. If I forward a message to you and you hit "reply", you will reply to me. If I redirect the same message and you hit "reply", you will reply to the original sender. Uhm.

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Allie, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:22:56 -0500GMT (19/01/2000, 14:22 +0800GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM Well if he can make sense out of the X-Sender address then he'll AM know. What's the standard: If redirecting, does the X-Sender have to stay intact? RFC#? In that case, Outlook is

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Januk Aggarwal
Hello Allie, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:22:56 PM, you wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:49:09 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: Otherwise this 'by way of . etc.' solution was being mentioned. Steve quite rightfully said that it's a bad idea. The message header could become filled with 'by

Re[3]: disableling auto-bcc

2000-01-18 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, Roel wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone about disableling auto-bcc: R too bad: that only creates massive overheads in the adressbook... R also: keeping info up to date can be hell... R oh well, i'll live :-) You can enter an address

Re[2]: suggestion- / wish-list

2000-01-18 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Tuesday, January 18, 2000, Steve Lamb wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about suggestion- / wish-list: SL Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 1:41:55 AM, Oleg wrote: It is just my personal opinion said by the way that adding some kind of a hook for external editor to TB! will

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hi Allie, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:22:56 -0500GMT (19/01/2000, 14:22 +0800GMT), Allie Martin wrote: AM Send the original message informing the recipient clearly that you AM sending a copy of the message and yet handing over the real deal untouched AM copy MIME forward. Allow me a

Re: Redirect (Bounce)

2000-01-18 Thread Syafril Hermansyah
Hello Thomas Fernandez, On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 15:08:46 [GMT +0800] your local time which was Wednesday, January 19, 2000 14:08:46 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told to the list: AM Send the original message informing the recipient clearly that you AM sending a copy of the message and

Re[3]: External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list)

2000-01-18 Thread Oleg Zalyalov
Hello, the Bat! list recipients, Wednesday, January 19, 2000, tracer wrote to Nick Danger about External editor (was:Re: suggestion- / wish-list): I don't need excellent editor for editing mail. I am quite happy with mediocre one. The main thing I want from it -- speed. SL That is you.

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