Hello The Bat! developers,
I'm using The Bat! Version 1.48f
Serial Number 8772262C
under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1
and would like to report a bug
The bug description:
Other problem, many people writes their messages in MS WORD, then
copies to The Bat!, each paragra
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On Friday, January 05, 2001, 1:29:07 PM, Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> OK.. If that can't be done.. How can installing my own SMTP server
OR> work
OR> According to that other mail, If I would install a SMTP server on my
OR> own PC, I can have that one send
Hello Ming-Li,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 at 07:08:50 GMT -0800 (which was 7:08 AM
where I live) witnesses say Ming-Li typed:
> The way TB is doing, while it won't if you just take what it gives
> you, it's very convenient for me to decide which part to strip out.
> But I agree it's confusing to new
I've done a little testing, and.
> > AD> 1. Why does the attachment message flag not appear until you
actually
> click
> > AD> on the message?
> >
> > Perhaps it's some sort of legacy limitations from the old message base
> > format. Just IMHO :-)
I worked this one out - if it's a message se
I'm trying out TB! and have a few questions.
1) In reviews I read glowing remarks about TB!'s speed. My experience
differs a bit from that. I don't so much notice the speed of checking
mail since it happens in the background. But other things seem to
take forever. I have it said to mark messa
Hi Olivier
I'm not sure if this will work, but it seems to be working fine for me. Go
to mailandnews.com and set up an account with them (it's free). Now go into
TB and set up your SMTP server to mailandnews.com. Then select
"Authentication", tick "Perform SMTP Authentication" and "Use specific
s
Subject: Please take me from the List
From: Andrea Schiffer
Dated: Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 23:05:02 (4:05:02 PM Local)
Hi Andrea,
A> I would like to be taken please by the list.
And which member of the list do you want to be taken by?
Sorry. Bad taste I know. I just couldn't help myself. All
Hello,
I would like to be taken please by the list. Automatic logging out does not function.
Yours sincerely
Andrea
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:31:46 -0800, you wrote:
>You don't know what your addressed person's SMTP server is - there is
>no way to know except by looking at RFC headers of mail they have sent
>you, and then if they are using multiple ISP's like you, it would mean
>nothing.
>
>Not all servers with PO
>Well, perhaps you can consider using Host Colocation Service, means
>you put your own Server on ISP site ?
We have one server running at a provider (the one that has the site
and database).
>OR> 1) Access via ADSL or Cable at home. This is where I do most of
>OR> the management from so the sp
I thought I'd comment on Ming-Li's contribution to the list,
sent on Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:08:50 -0800:
[..trimmed..]
ML> Maybe we can come up with a suggestion for them. The way TB
ML> currently works is it takes the whole string from the From field
ML> and put it there, without checking for specia
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On Friday, January 05, 2001, 11:06:24 AM, Olivier Reubens wrote:
>>There are servers you can install on your PC. Of course, they will be
>>only active when you are currently connected, but I tried one once,
>>and it sent the messages directly to the recipient's
I have a wireless e-mail pager that can except message of about 100
words at a time.
I'd like to forward a few select e-mail messages using The Bat!, but,
can't find a mechanism by which I can take, say, the first 125
characters.
Is there such a function/macro?
Thanks!
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Hello Abigail Marshall,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 at 11:43:05 GMT -0800(which was 1/6/2001 2:43 AM
where you think I live) you told to Andrey G. Sergeev on the list :
AGSAA>> Sorry, but you're wrong here.
AGSAA>> Generally, all SMTP servers are "relays". But the actual
AGSAA>> server behavio
Hello Olivier Reubens,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 at 20:16:55 GMT +0100(which was 1/6/2001 2:16 AM
where you think I live) you told to the list :
>>What are your requirements that no single ISP can satisfy?
Well, perhaps you can consider using Host Colocation Service, means
you put your own Server o
Howdy all,
I've found that my PC locks up when:
1) My screen saver is running and...
2) The Bat! displays the Mail Ticker
I've seen in a "Screen Saver" option when setting up my filters. What
does this feature do and will it help with my lockups?
Should I resign myself to either disabling
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On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 8:19:30 PM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:
OR>>> Well a ruling of the ISPA (www.ispa.be) (belgium organisation
OR>>> regulating ISP's in belgium) stipulates that no SMTP server should
OR>>> have an "open" line.
TF>> It is n
On 05-01-2001 at 23:19:00GMT +0800 (which was 15:19 where I live)
Thomas Fernandez wrote regarding the subject of "Multiple email everything."
Hello Thomas,
GFS>> I have also seen smtp servers that can be installed in 98/NT/2K. Have
GFS>> yet to try one But they must work.
Thomas> Isn't Hamste
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 02:44:11 +0800, you wrote:
>What are your requirements that no single ISP can satisfy?
1) Access via ADSL or Cable at home. This is where I do most of the
management from so the speed needs to be high, I often need to make
several MB's worth of changes to the dbase mentionned
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 02:41:46 +0800, you wrote:
>There are servers you can install on your PC. Of course, they will be
>only active when you are currently connected, but I tried one once,
>and it sent the messages directly to the recipient's POP server.
Actually.. Why does no e-mail client ha
Hello Olivier Reubens,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 at 19:23:54 GMT +0100(which was 1/6/2001 1:23 AM
where you think I live) you told to the list :
>>Obtain an old pc. E.g. a P90. Install a *nix/*BSD on it and use it
>>as a smtp server. This solution works very well if your ISP has a
>>dodgy mail
Hallo Olivier,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:25:59 +0100 GMT (06/01/2001, 02:25 +0800 GMT),
Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> If I could get an ISP that can do ALL of the things I need at an
OR> affordable price, I'd kick out all the rest and go with just the one,
OR> but this isn't the case at the moment.
W
Hallo Olivier,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 19:23:54 +0100 GMT (06/01/2001, 02:23 +0800 GMT),
Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> And if I had a 24/24 line to the internet, I'd get my own domain
OR> registered,
I believe with 24 hours on 24 days a week, you could do a lot more
than that. ;-)
OR> set up my own s
I am of course referring to the perl script mentionned on the "How do
I" page
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html#Importing
Olivier Reubens
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Hi,
There's a perl script that apparently fixes a problem with importing
folders from Forté Agent.
Alas, I don't have or know perl.
Can anyone tell me what this per script does so I can write my own
program to fix this.
Olivier Reubens
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On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:39:04 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't know of any mail program that has a provision to switch
>servers on an account for sending.
I am solving it with Forté Agent at this moment, where I can
auto-select the SMTP server depending on what dial-up I made the
connection with.
But Age
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:27:07 +0100, you wrote:
>On 05-01-2001 at 03:54, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote:
>
>> Contrary to what someone else suggested, xs4all.be is also a member of
>> the ISPA and doesn't have an open SMTP server.
>
>I suggested that XS4all.be probably uses SMTP authentication
>- whi
Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Saturday, January 06, 2001 at 01:19:47 GMT +0800(which was 1/6/2001
12:19 AM where you think I live) you told to the list :
SH>> I am considering to create The Bat! Indonesia List near future,
SH>> some of friends keep asking me since last couple month :-)
TF> Keep
>OR> None of the Belgium ISP's however support relaying. I get
>OR> 'Relaying Denied' messages if I try. which brings me to problem
>Obtain an old pc. E.g. a P90. Install a *nix/*BSD on it and use it as a
>smtp server. This solution works very well if your ISP has a dodgy
>mail server (e.g.
Hallo Syafril,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:51:44 +0700 GMT (06/01/2001, 00:51 +0800 GMT),
Syafril Hermansyah wrote:
SH> I am considering to create The Bat! Indonesia List near future, some
SH> of friends keep asking me since last couple month :-)
Keep us informed and all good luck!
Speaking of TB li
Ciao Danilo,
Friday, January 05, 2001, 3:03:29 PM, you wrote:
DB> Prego
Idem da un altro utente Italiano :-)))
(Idem from another Italian user)
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Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 23:22:35 GMT +0800(which was 1/5/2001
10:22 PM where you think I live) you told to the list :
GD>> From a person who was born and raised in the United States I want to
GD>> thank everyone else whose primary language is NOT English. I
GD>>
Hallo Ming-Li,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:08:50 -0800 GMT (05/01/2001, 23:08 +0800 GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:
ML> The way TB is doing, while it won't if you just take what it gives
ML> you, it's very convenient for me to decide which part to strip out.
ML> But I agree it's confusing to new users and should
Hallo Gerry,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:55:29 -0500 GMT (05/01/2001, 21:55 +0800 GMT),
Gerry Doyon wrote:
GD> I have recently purchased The Bat! and like it VERY much. I also
GD> subscribe to this list server, of course.
Good choice. :-)
GD> From a person who was born and raised in the United Stat
On Friday, January 05, 2001, 7:46:11 AM, Kari wrote:
ML>> That should work, as you've found out. The only "drawback" of
ML>> that approach is an DOS instance (window) for the batch would
ML>> stay there the whole time TB is active. It's no big deal, just
ML>> something I always try to avoid.
> I
Hey Thomas,
Friday, January 05, 2001, 10:30:25 AM, you wrote:
TM>> Alt+116 = t regardless of the NumLock status for
TM>> Win2k/NT/98/95/m$-dos6/5/3/dr-dos7 on ThinkPad/Dell workstation, and
TM>> Compaq servers.
TF> Not for Word 97 under Win98. I just tried it. Returns t when NumLock
TF> is TRUE
Hello Ming-Li,
On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 07:08:50 GMT -0800(which was 1/5/2001
10:08 PM where you think I live) you told to the list :
RB>>> It is odd that TB creates a filter string that it cannot later
RB>>> use to filter mail, don't you think?
>> I really hope RIT Labs will address
Hallo Allie,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:45:40 -0500 GMT (05/01/2001, 20:45 +0800 GMT),
A . Curtis Martin wrote:
RB>> It is odd that TB creates a filter string that it cannot later use to
RB>> filter mail, don't you think?
ACM> I really hope RIT Labs will address this very sore point soon. It,
ACM> a
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Hello Ming-Li,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 06:55:07 h [GMT -0800] (which
was 15:55 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote:
ML> That should work, as you've found out. The only
ML> "drawback" of that approach is an DOS instance (window)
ML> for the batch woul
Hallo Tim,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:26:11 -0500 GMT (05/01/2001, 21:26 +0800 GMT),
Tim Musson wrote:
TM> Alt+116 = t regardless of the NumLock status for
TM> Win2k/NT/98/95/m$-dos6/5/3/dr-dos7 on ThinkPad/Dell workstation, and
TM> Compaq servers.
Not for Word 97 under Win98. I just tried it. Retur
Hallo George,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 05:23:11 -0800 GMT (05/01/2001, 21:23 +0800 GMT),
George F. Schoelles wrote:
GFS> I have also seen smtp servers that can be installed in 98/NT/2K. Have
GFS> yet to try one But they must work.
Isn't Hamster one of those?
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Hello fellow listmembers,
for all of you who rely on the manual backup procedure for
TB instead of using the (newly) built in function.
With the help of Thomas, Roel and Andrey I found a very
convenient way for doing this:
The way I designed it wil
On Friday, January 05, 2001, 4:45:40 AM, A. wrote:
RB>> It is odd that TB creates a filter string that it cannot later
RB>> use to filter mail, don't you think?
> I really hope RIT Labs will address this very sore point soon. It,
> among a few other things, stick out like a sore thumb.
Maybe we
On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 8:49:17 PM, Andrey wrote:
> It seems to be impossible to enter characters using their ANSI
> codes via Alt+NumPad in TB message editor when the NumPad acts as
> a cursor control keys :-(.
> The correct behaviour is to ignore the NumPad status.
I'm not sure about t
On Thursday, January 04, 2001, 10:28:10 AM, Kari wrote:
> This is the other way round. I call up the backup batch file which
> closes TB. Nice, but not what I was looking for. I will get back
> to this one if Thomas way won't work.
That should work, as you've found out. The only "drawback" of th
On Friday, January 05, 2001, 2:31:39 AM, Pete wrote:
> Strings: "John Doe"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
As others have pointed out, using only [EMAIL PROTECTED] would work.
The reason is quotation marks in TB's filer strings have special
meaning. It calls for case-sensitive search. So when you put
"John
Hello BAT PEOPLE,
1.)
1.48 F - since this holiday version of the bat only the filters and
all attempts to filter the bat mail list messages have failed. what
have they done to make this stop working i have no bat anywhere and
everywhere filters running out my wazoo about 15 bat f
Hello Austin,
you wrote in "Question re registration" on 04.01.2001:
> Does anyone know what the "features available only for registered users"
> are?
> I don't want to miss out on anything :)
The ability to use every new (Beta-)Version of TB!.
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Hello Gerry,
Friday, January 05, 2001, 2:55:29 PM, you wrote:
GD> From a person who was born and raised in the United States I want to
GD> thank everyone else whose primary language is NOT English. I
GD> appreciate your willingness to write your comments/e-mails in English.
GD> Oh, how I wish
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Hello Andrey,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 05:13:41 h [GMT +0300] (which
was 03:13 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote:
AGSAA> If you want to hide the icon and window completely
AGSAA> you'll need an utility like HideWindow -
AGSAA> http://www.winsite.com
Hello everyone!
I have recently purchased The Bat! and like it VERY much. I also
subscribe to this list server, of course.
>From a person who was born and raised in the United States I want to
thank everyone else whose primary language is NOT English. I
appreciate your willingness to write you
Hey Thomas,
Friday, January 05, 2001, 1:13:13 AM, you wrote:
AGSAA>> The correct behaviour is to ignore the NumPad status.
TF> Is that so? I have never heard this. I think if you want to inoput
TF> ASCII codes via AtlNumPad, you have to make sure the NumLock light is
TF> on. It has always been
On 05-01-2001 at 03:54, Olivier Reubens kindly wrote:
> Contrary to what someone else suggested, xs4all.be is also a member of
> the ISPA and doesn't have an open SMTP server.
I suggested that XS4all.be probably uses SMTP authentication
- which is not the same as an open SMTP. But from a later
p
Hello Jamie,
Friday, January 05, 2001, 12:09:36 AM, you wrote:
JD> A more windows orientated solution is to install NT and a windows
JD> based smtp server. Apart from BackOffice server I've never tried this
JD> method.
I have also seen smtp servers that can be installed in 98/NT/2K. Have
yet to
Hi Pete
Glad to have helped.
> Which of course makes me wonder why the old strings were created
> differently... or am I just getting demented?!
Just keep taking the tablets >
Regards
Kevin
Batting along with 1.49 Beta 2
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 05:56:06 -0600, Randy contributed this
to our collective wisdom:
RB> It is odd that TB creates a filter string that it cannot later use to
RB> filter mail, don't you think?
I really hope RIT Labs will address this very sore point
Here we go again...
> I have found that you have to manually edit the "strings" to be
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "John Doe"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .
>
> It is odd that TB creates a filter string that it cannot later use to
> filter mail, don't you think?
Yes!
Which of course makes me wonder w
On 05-01-2001 at 05:56:06GMT -0600 (which was 11:56 where I live)
Randy Breese wrote regarding the subject of "New filters don't work?"
Hello Randy,
Randy> I have found that you have to manually edit the "strings" to be
Randy> [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of "John Doe"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .
Randy>
> On Friday, January 05, 2001, at approximately 4:31:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>...
> Okay... the first one is set to filter mails from a single person.
> Let's assume his name is John Doe and the address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have a folder for him, named JD. The filtering rule is as
Hi,
Austin Dennis wrote:
AD> 3. Why is it that sometimes when you get attachments (images), you get tabs
AD> at the bottom of the screen, and sometimes you don't?
Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:
AGS> Well, i think that the bottom tabs presence depends on the message
AGS> internal structu
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Hello Andrey,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, 05:13:41 h [GMT +0300] (which
was 03:13 h [GMT +0100] where I live) you wrote:
AGSAA> If you want to hide the icon and window completely
AGSAA> you'll need an utility like HideWindow -
[...]
I will have a look at
Hi Pete
>Instead of "John Doe"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regards
Kevin
Batting along with 1.49 Beta 2
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Hello again!
PP>> Anybody else have new filters - after upgrading to 1.48f... do they
PP>> work?
AGSAA> Yes, I have created at least 3 filters after the 1.48f installation. Why
AGSAA> don't you describe these two faulty filters?
Okay... the first one is set to filter mails from a single pe
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Hi Jamie,
On 05 January 2001 at 08:17:02 + (which was 08:17 where I live) words
of wisdom emanated from Jamie Dainton.
JD> Options --> Icon animation must be checked
It is.
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Hi Monbebe,
On 05 January 2001 at 07:34:22 +0100 (which was 06:34 where I live) words
of wisdom emanated from Monbebe Admin.
MA> I'm searching 2 sort of tools to create complex HTML messages.
Have you tried looking at PHP server side scripting ?
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Hi Curt,
On 04 January 2001 at 16:22:46 -0500 (which was 21:22 where I live) words
of wisdom emanated from Curt.
DE>> I some time does not on mine. As I don't know how to reproduce it I
DE>> have not sent in a bug report yet.
C> The Bat! flaps when
Hi Jannik,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:20:42 +0100GMT (05/01/2001, 16:20 +0800GMT),
Jannik Lindquist wrote:
j>>> I don't know of any mail program that has a provision to switch
j>>> servers on an account for sending.
JL> Is it something like this that is on the wish list
IIRC the wisher wished that
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Hello Monbebe,
Friday, January 05, 2001, 6:34:22 AM, you wrote:
MA> I'm searching 2 sort of tools to create complex HTML messages.
MA> - First a software to do it, encode images, adding text message
MA> and so that can link attachment multipart/rel
Hello Olivier Reubens,
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 00:03:12 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 04, 2001, 23:03:12 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,
Olivier Reubens wrote:
OR> None of the Belgium ISP's however support relaying. I get
OR> 'Relaying Denied' messages if I try. which br
Hello David Elliott,
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:02:36 + GMT your local time,
which was Thursday, January 04, 2001, 18:02:36 (GMT+0100) (BST) my local time,
David Elliott wrote:
DE> I some time does not on mine. As I don't know how to reproduce it I have
DE> not sent in a bug report yet.
Options
Hello Thomas and other TBUDL's,
On Friday, January 05, 2001 at 14:06:32 GMT +0800
Thomas Fernandez wrote on "Multiple email everything.":
j>> I don't know of any mail program that has a provision to switch
j>> servers on an account for sending.
TF> But it's in tghe wsih list for TB. ;-)
Just f
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