Is this correct?
How would you like it to work? In Version 2 of The Bat! the directory
was automatically created if you selected use Known filter. You could
then tell it what Address book groups to watch for names of people
you considered Known. This was selected in the Sorting Office
Stuart Cuddy writes:
How would you like it to work?
Well, since you ask: Ideally for me, this filter would allow me to
match some arbitrary field(s) in the message against entries in the
address book, potentially using regular expressions, and would allow me
to move messages that match to
conversation thread with that
person (or AB group).
I'm using a known filter to move messages from my inbox to more global
directories like friends family (or work or colleagues, or
whatever, its just to have them away from the inbox as known), and from
there they are picked up by Virtual Folders
Since nobody has stepped forward to clarify the details of how the known
filter works and it isn't documented anywhere that I can find, I can
only assume that it is top secret and not intended to actually be used.
Is this correct?
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Hello Anthony,
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Anthony mused about Known filter explanation
(at least in part):
AGA Since nobody has stepped forward to clarify the details of how the known
AGA filter works and it isn't documented anywhere that I can find, I
Hallo Thorvald,
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 16:56:53 +0200GMT (10-10-2004, 16:56 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:
Incoming filters (including subfilters) don't care about the folder
where the message is.
TN My incoming filters in v1.x and 2.x have always (at least for me)
TN treated the mails from my
Hallo Alexander,
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:19:58 +0200GMT (10-10-2004, 17:19 +0200, where
I live), you wrote:
You'd have to set up a final subfilter that will move the message to your
general newsletter location if it wasn't caught by any other subfilter
before.
I just tested this.
No need
Hæ!
I am experiencing something strange.
I activated a Known filter for one account which uses:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [F41F9220.01C4A5F6.4920F440.19A28B47]
Name: Known
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`11`0`0`0\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMyAccountName\5CInbox\20-\20Known
Hello Thorvald,
Saturday, October 9, 2004, 8:12:57 AM, you wrote:
TN It is set before my SPAM-filters get active (so the known filter is
TN the last filter for valid emails).
TN I now and then receive some emails which get sorted to specific
TN folders before they get in touch with the known
. If this is true, it should be moved from the inbox to a
specific list folder. If untrue, the next filter should take over. At
the end of the filter list, I have my known filter.
If now the sender is in my address book and on the same mailinglist,
the mail does get moved from the mailinglist folder
Hello Thorvald,
Saturday, October 9, 2004, 12:49:55 PM, you wrote:
Do your other filters have Continue Processing with other Filters
turned on?
TN Yes, sure.
I think this is your problem.
Filter 1 - Filters it to the list folder.
Filter Known - if Continue processing is turned on in Filter
Sunday, February 29, 2004, Allister Jenks wrote:
Alas, this does not seem to be possible?
Play on sound on incoming mail in the folder that $known$ filters to and
set the $known$ filter to continue processing.
--
Urban
A harp is a nude piano
Monday, March 1, 2004, 1:22:12 PM, Urban wrote:
U Sunday, February 29, 2004, Allister Jenks wrote:
Alas, this does not seem to be possible?
U Play on sound on incoming mail in the folder that $known$ filters to and
U set the $known$ filter to continue processing.
Thanks Urban. I did not know
On Sunday, February 29, 2004, 6:09:05 AM, Allister Jenks wrote:
AJ Yes, I know it *is* special, but I had an idea that I wanted a
AJ sound to be played when something was filtered by it - i.e. some
AJ *real* email has arrived.
There's an option to Play sound on the Actions tab of the filter,
Hi Deborah,
on Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:59:55 +GMT, you wrote:
DW On Sunday, February 29, 2004, 6:09:05 AM, Allister Jenks wrote:
AJ Yes, I know it *is* special, but I had an idea that I wanted a
AJ sound to be played when something was filtered by it - i.e. some
AJ *real* email has arrived.
DW
Hello Deborah,
There's an option to Play sound on the Actions tab of the filter,
which includes the option to play the wav file of your choice
Not in the Known filter :)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v2.04.7
On Sunday, February 29, 2004, 10:57:33 AM, MAU wrote:
M Not in the Known filter :)
I should read subject-lines, shouldn't I? :-)
--
Deborah
We seek the truth and will endure the consequences.
Using The Bat! v2.02.3 CE on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
Service Pack 4
Hello Deborah,
I should read subject-lines, shouldn't I? :-)
What is a subject line? ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v2.04.7
Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
Hello TBUDLers,
Yes, I know it *is* special, but I had an idea that I wanted a sound to
be played when something was filtered by it - i.e. some *real* email has
arrived.
Alas, this does not seem to be possible?
--
Cheers,
Allister
Current
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, at 12:19:34 [GMT +0700] tbudl wrote:
TF On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 10:35:44 -0500 GMT (28/06/03, 22:35 +0700 GMT),
TF Greg Strong wrote:
I want to keep running dialog of all email correspondence. I think
having incorporated into the interface would make it more user
friendly.
Hello kristina,
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:46:53 +0100 GMT (30/06/03, 20:46 +0700 GMT),
kristina wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly. But if I am then
TB! already does this (doesn't it)!
No. ;-)
I have one folder (well several actually) and all outgoing incoming
email go
I bcc: myself all the time. Doesn't everybody?
TF I used to. Namely when I was replying to private mails while I was in
TF the office; when I bcc'ed myself, I could download my replies at home
TF as well. I started this practice when I was still using Netscape Mail,
TF and that client has a
Hello Coyle306,
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:46:01 -0400 GMT (28/06/03, 17:46 +0700 GMT),
Coyle306 wrote:
TF In TB, I have to add the BCC macro to each template. I wish I
TF could activate such a feature on Account level, as I could in
TF Netscape.
TF Any seconders?
Nah. It's pretty easy to add it
Hello Thomas,
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, at 18:45:10 GMT +0700 (6/28/2003, 6:45 AM -0500 GMT
here), you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
But. If you use AB templates (which I do a lot), you have to add it to
every single template. Well, I did this when I set them up, but I
still thought it would be
On Fri 27-Jun-03 11:06pm -0400, Mark Wieder wrote:
BM I have AutoCompletion turned
BM off. I only occasionally use local delivery (I use Alt-N to get me
BM to the setting page, so Alt-NAenter toggles it) - and I often like
BM to edit the outbox for testing.
Maybe I'm being dense today (it's
Coyle306-
Thursday, June 26, 2003, 3:13:24 PM, you wrote:
snippage happens
C spammer had inserted _my address_, which _is_ in my address book.
Of course, at this point I suppose I should bring up the question of
why your own address is in your address book? If it weren't then the
correct
Hello Mark,
Thursday, June 26, 2003, 11:34:52 PM, you wrote:
MW Of course, at this point I suppose I should bring up the question of
MW why your own address is in your address book? If it weren't then the
MW correct filtering event would have occurred...
well I have to admit i send stuff to
group of the
AB - the handle is 'me' :-) I use it's templates for testing and
uncheck them to test the Family group templates.
I bet it's not that uncommon.
It's best, IMHO, to avoid the known filter. If one wants to check
for people in the address book - but not one's own address, one can
use
known filter - prossibly an
artifact of days before normal filters could do AB filtering.
--
Best regards,
Bill
Current version is 1.62r | Using TBUDL information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
MW Of course, at this point I suppose I should bring up the question of
MW why your own address is in your address book? If it weren't then the
MW correct filtering event would have occurred...
I bcc: myself all the time. Doesn't everybody?
I appreciate the responses on this subject, and I
Bill-
I test-send myself stuff all the time, too, but I never considered
putting myself in the AB. Since I have local delivery turned on,
sending mail to my local accounts is instantaneous. Then I have some
external webmail accounts so I can see the kludges.
-Mark Wieder
Using The Bat! v1.63
On Fri 27-Jun-03 1:09pm -0400, Mark Wieder wrote:
I test-send myself stuff all the time, too, but I never considered
putting myself in the AB. Since I have local delivery turned on,
sending mail to my local accounts is instantaneous. Then I have some
external webmail accounts so I can see the
Hello Coyle306,
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:07:12 -0400 GMT (27/06/03, 18:07 +0700 GMT),
Coyle306 wrote:
I bcc: myself all the time. Doesn't everybody?
I used to. Namely when I was replying to private mails while I was in
the office; when I bcc'ed myself, I could download my replies at home
as
Bill-
Friday, June 27, 2003, 12:21:56 PM, you wrote:
BM We all work a little differently, Mark.
grin
BM I have AutoCompletion turned
BM off. I only occasionally use local delivery (I use Alt-N to get me
BM to the setting page, so Alt-NAenter toggles it) - and I often like
BM to edit the
I'm using 1.63 Beta 11 with Windows 98. I have the Known filter
activated, and I have it move knowns to a sub-folder of the Inbox,
Inbox\Known. Otherwise, they go to another sub-folder of the Inbox,
Inbox\Unknown. Worked great until I received a spam, in
Inbox\Known, from
Hello Coyle306,
Thursday, June 26, 2003, 6:07:42 AM, you wrote:
C All I could think of was that the spammer's sticking _my_ address in
C the Reply-To: and/or the X-RCPT-TO: somehow fooled the Known
C filter, since _my_ address was in my address book.
C Sure enough, when I deleted
received with a 'from address' that
was in my address book. It was received with a 'from address' that
_was not_ in my AB.
Quoting from the Sorting Office window: The Known filter allows you
to separate incoming mail by the presence of the _sender's address_ in
your address book (My emphasis
On Thu 26-Jun-03 6:13pm -0400, Coyle306 wrote:
Quoting from the Sorting Office window: The Known filter allows you
to separate incoming mail by the presence of the _sender's address_ in
your address book (My emphasis)
Right - notice that it does not say From address - it says Sender
which
am now taking advantage of the Known
folder, previously I had all my filters working
like this
incoming mail
if from someone on a filter gets filtered as
follows:
inbox/name of person (this can sometimes be 2 or
3 deep)
Since enabling the Known filter, everything does
get
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Kristina [K] wrote:'
K Since enabling the Known filter, everything does get filtered into
K the Known box, but it doesn't carry on, although I have ticked
K continue processing with other fil
Hello Allie,
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 at 06:19:52[GMT -0500](which was 11:19 where I
live) you wrote:
To get things working the way you wish, I suggest using the INBOX as
your Inbox-Known folder, deactivate the Inbox-Known filter, and
creating a new incoming filter with the following
what use it has. Now you say that you should
RW create a different filter and not use known. All my messages go to
RW the inbox anyway so why create a filter to send them there?
As a part of spam filtering.
RW Oh heck it's getting late and it's been a long day. It's just that, at
RW the top of t
Hello Allie,
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 at 19:15:22[GMT -0500](which was 00:15 where I
live) you wrote:
As a part of spam filtering.
Ah, Spampal works a treat for me thanks.
I wonder about the usefulness of the filter myself. I guess it's a
means of making such a filtering method more
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Richard Wakeford [RW] wrote:'
As a part of spam filtering.
RW Ah, Spampal works a treat for me thanks.
I use a combination of both to help with dealing with false
positives. I still filter all
Hello Allie,
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:15:22 -0500 GMT (15/02/03, 07:15 +0700 GMT),
Allie Martin wrote:
I wonder about the usefulness of the filter myself. I guess it's a
means of making such a filtering method more apparent to the passing
user. However, an experienced user will
though. I copied (Ctrl+C) filter and pasted it into
blank text document. Then I changed The Name: string to Known and
pasted it back to the account. The Bat! just asked if I wanted to replace
the current Known filter. This way you can name it as you wish.
I think the matter is in the Action
Hello Thomas,
Wednesday, February 5, 2003, 4:43:11 PM, you wrote:
TF I am not sure, but I think you need to name it $Known$ (without
TF quotes).
It is not the solution :( Sad, but true.
Anyway thanks.
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Best regards,
Artemichmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
When I created a new filer I somehow managed to rename Known filter.
Since then I can't rename it back to the original (or whatever you
like) name. Just clicking and typing a new name doesn't help.
Does anybody know how to rename this filter back?
Tanks in advance.
--
Artiom Koren
Hello Artemich,
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:58:53 +0100 GMT (05/02/03, 18:58 +0700 GMT),
Artemich wrote:
When I created a new filer I somehow managed to rename Known filter.
Since then I can't rename it back to the original (or whatever you
like) name. Just clicking and typing a new name doesn't
On Wednesday, February 05, 2003 Artemich stated:
A Hi,
A When I created a new filer I somehow managed to rename Known filter.
A Since then I can't rename it back to the original (or whatever you
A like) name. Just clicking and typing a new name doesn't help.
A Does anybody know how to rename
I can't see how to add an address book to this. Nothing in the help file, couldn't
find anything in the archives useful.
I'm on version 1.61 at the moment, haven't used any betas for a while.
Thanks.
Doug
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Hi Doug.
At 4:32 PM on Wednesday, October 02, 2002 you
[DW] wrote the following about ''Known'
Filter and adding address book':
DW I can't see how to add an address book to this. Nothing in the
DW help file, couldn't find anything in the archives useful.
DW I'm on version 1.61 at the moment
Hallo Doug,
On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 21:32:18 +0100GMT (2-10-02, 22:32 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:
DW I can't see how to add an address book to this.
You can't add address books to the known filter. It only uses the
default AB.
I can remember discussions on this list why somebody might want
Hi Roelof,
Wednesday, October 2, 2002, 9:58:29 PM, you wrote:
Hallo Doug,
On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 21:32:18 +0100GMT (2-10-02, 22:32 +0200GMT, where
I live), you wrote:
DW I can't see how to add an address book to this.
You can't add address books to the known filter. It only uses
Hallo Doug,
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 22:25:07 +0100GMT (2-10-02, 23:25 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:
DW I can't see how to add an address book to this.
You can't add address books to the known filter. It only uses the
default AB.
DW They are all in one address book. The known filter has
Hello mocha9mail,
On Thu, 2 May 2002 01:28:37 -0400GMT (2-5-02, 7:28 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:
mmc In the Account filters, there is a know filter for the Incoming
mmc mail. How can I add that same known filter to Sent mail?
I think you can't.
However, you can create an outgoing
Thursday, May 02, 2002, Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2 May 2002 01:28:37 -0400GMT (2-5-02, 7:28 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:
mmc In the Account filters, there is a know filter for the Incoming
mmc mail. How can I add that same known filter to Sent mail?
I think you
Hello mocha9mail,
On Thu, 2 May 2002 20:01:24 -0400GMT (3-5-02, 2:01 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:
mmc In the Account filters, there is a know filter for the Incoming
mmc mail. How can I add that same known filter to Sent mail?
I think you can't.
However, you can create an outgoing
In the Account filters, there is a know filter for the Incoming
mail. How can I add that same known filter to Sent mail?
Thanks in advance
JM
Using The Bat! 1.60c
Under Windows 98 4.10 Build A
Current Ver: 1.60h
FAQ
Hello Carsten,
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:13:57 -0400GMT (15-4-02, 5:13 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:
CGS Why is an email with the follwing header not moved to my
CGS INBOX-KNOWN (Filter is active), though the email address
CGS thomaslundy@...com is in my address book?
Probably because
Hi,
Why is an email with the follwing header not moved to my INBOX-KNOWN
(Filter is active), though the email address thomaslundy@...com is in my
address book?
Return-Path: thomaslundy@com
X-Flags:
Delivered-To: GMX delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail
Although some seem not to like it, the known filter and InBox are
helping me sort the wheat from the chaff. But I have a question.
The description of the known filter says it allows you to separate
incoming mail by presence of the sender's address in your address
book. I presumed that meant
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