Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Eddy! On Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 9:38:37 PM you wrote: In the case of JPEG attachments, clicking the little tab at the bottom of the window that allows you to view the image results in nothing but a blank pane when the attachment is corrupt. I've seen that with Eddy's zipped

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Technology! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 12:23:19 AM you wrote: Agreed, but would it not have the same effect when the message is being reconstructed in Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express, Pegasus, Netscape Maill, or SOME other program? Not necessarily; that is the fun part about

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Dierk, On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:40:46 +0200 GMT (13/09/02, 14:40 +0700 GMT), Dierk Haasis wrote: DH I am quite sure that my RAM is perfectly in order So is mine. This is not a RAM problem, as everybody who tested the files in question comes to the same results. DH 1. Where do you all

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Adam, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:58:23 +0100 GMT (13/09/02, 04:58 +0700 GMT), Adam Rykala wrote: AR Perhaps everybody who has this problem does have mismatched memory AR - because I don't see a lot of other people suffering from it. It was a first for me, and for others. It is definitely the

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Adam, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:37:24 +0100 GMT (13/09/02, 05:37 +0700 GMT), Adam Rykala wrote: AR TB! on C drive or another drive? AR Spaces in folder name (here its d:\TheBat) I am using Win98 with TB on C:\ drive (standard installation). AR There MUST be a common thread here! The

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Adam Rykala
Quoting Thomas F. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Adam, AR I haven't seen it, and I send and receive a lot of mail and a LOT AR of attachments. Maybe someone can send you the file. Yeah thats not a bad idea. Use the email address in my sig... a -- [ Adam Rykala ] [ www.new-wales.net ]

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Adam Rykala
Quoting Thomas F. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello Adam, AR There MUST be a common thread here! The common thread here is that it will happen to anybody who cares to try it out with the files that Eddy sends. It has nothing to do with hardware. Try it out yourself. ;-) As the man said,

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Adam, On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:25:15 +0100 GMT (13/09/02, 15:25 +0700 GMT), Adam Rykala wrote: The common thread here is that it will happen to anybody who cares to try it out with the files that Eddy sends. It has nothing to do with hardware. Try it out yourself. ;-) AR As the man

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Thomas! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:13:17 AM you wrote: AR There MUST be a common thread here! The common thread here is that it will happen to anybody who cares to try it out with the files that Eddy sends. 1. there *must* be a common denominator. 2. Hopefully it's *not*

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Thomas! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:43:33 AM you wrote: Maybe someone could donate some temporary webspace or ftp space where this file could be uploaded to, so that everybody who wants to try can just download it? ;-) As I've already put up a small page dedicated to The Bat!

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @13-Sep-2002, 15:43 +0700 (09:43 UK time) Thomas F. [T] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: AR As the man said, Bring it on T Maybe someone could donate some temporary webspace or ftp space T where this file could be

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Lars Geiger
Hi Marck, On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 10:21:46 [GMT +0100], you wrote: T [...] some temporary webspace or ftp space where this file could be T uploaded to, so that everybody who wants to try can just download T it? ;-) MDP Done! See http://www.silverstones.com/message.zip. Nope. Are you

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Lars, @13-Sep-2002, 11:33 +0200 (10:33 UK time) Lars Geiger [LG] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP Done! See http://www.silverstones.com/message.zip. LG Nope. Are you sure about the filename? Not in the least! See

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Anselm! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:20:28 AM you wrote: Separate directory. Just changed settings to message body to check that out. So, it doesn't matter how attachments are stored? Firewall: ZA (not loaded today). Virus Scanner: AntiVir. Rambooster (OK, OK, I'll kick that

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Thomas, i follwed the thread a time. I had the same problems some months ago. My solution was to switch off the stealph mode in my Sygate firewall. I dont know which firewall is running in this case...perhaps it helps. -- Ciao Thomas Mailer: The Bat!1.62/Beta5 System: Windows XP

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello vlk! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 12:06:20 PM you wrote: MarthaLiving.jpg looks like not completely downloaded picture from web - probably sent before completed. Perfectly right, I hadn't looked for that the last time I inspected it. But that wouldn't explain why DOCs are also

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Marck! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 11:40:33 AM you wrote: See http://www.silverstones.com/messages.zip. I put it up, too: http://Software.Write4U.de. As I found out that way the site had been mysteriously disappeared during one of my clean-ups lately. -- Dierk Haasis

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Lars Geiger
Hi Dierk, On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 12:23:34 [GMT +0200], you wrote: DH And since the JPEG itself is correctly shown within IrfanView and DH PhotoPaint I'd say the file itself has correct headers and therefore DH should be shown in TB! except it is a format not yet known by TB! DH (i.e.

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Dierk Haasis [DH] wrote:' DH Perfectly right, I hadn't looked for that the last time I DH inspected it. But that wouldn't explain why DOCs are also DH corrupted, or why the JPEG can be seen with TB! when

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Lars! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 12:49:26 PM you wrote: But when I forward the message to myself, I receive a longer file which can be decoded correctly and then shows the complete image, without the corruption at the bottom. That seems to me to point towards some bug in TB!'s

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Allie! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 1:22:17 PM you wrote: When I try to open the image in Paint Shop Pro, I get a 'this is not a valid jpeg/jfif file' message. If I open it with my default viewer, PMView, it opens OK, but in the status bar is the message 'Invalid Marker Length'.

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Lars Geiger
Hi Dierk, On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 13:34:46 [GMT +0200], you wrote: But when I forward the message to myself, I receive a longer file which can be decoded correctly and then shows the complete image, without the corruption at the bottom. DH That seems to me to point towards some bug

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-13 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Lars! On Friday, September 13, 2002 at 2:03:49 PM you wrote: Maybe I was a bit unclear here, but the file is corrupt when it is saved to disc. The internal viewer wasn't involved in my tests. But the same file which results in a corrupt JPEG when saved to disc is forwarded correctly

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Mark Bernard
Hello Technology, Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:47:51 AM, you wrote: BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a bug in BBTE TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I should be BBTE blaming on NAV. BBTE When a message with multiple attachments arrives,

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mark, @12-Sep-2002, 05:07 -0700 (13:07 UK time) Mark Bernard [MB] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a BBTE bug in TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Anselm Buehling
Hi, This problem has been discussed in other threads. Same over here: Attachements (Word, RTF, TXT...) are regularly messed up. I first thought that the problem is sender-dependent but then realized it is not. The spoilt attachments alwas stem from messages with multiple attachments of

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Lynn Turriff
Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:47:51 AM, you wrote: BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a bug in BBTE TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I should be BBTE blaming on NAV. BBTE When a message with multiple attachments arrives, if the attachments

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi Technology, On Thursday, September 12, 2002 07:47 your local time, (17:32 my local time), you [BBT] wrote: BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a BBTE bug in TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I BBTE should be blaming on NAV. At one time, I

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi Technology, On Thursday, September 12, 2002 07:47 your local time, (17:32 my local time), you [BBT] wrote: BBTE For quite some time, I've seen a problem that I thought was a BBTE bug in TB, but now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's something that I BBTE should be blaming on NAV. At one time, I

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Jonathan Angliss
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, September 12, 2002, Anselm Buehling wrote... Are you using ZA or behind any firewall? This may be worth looking into. I, for one, do, so that might be a clue! But would that mean that no firewall can be used together with TB if you

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Lars Geiger
Hi Anselm, On Thursday, September 12, 2002 at 16:40:29 [GMT +0200], you wrote: AB using a broadband access without firewall seems way to dangerous AB these days... Might I recommend to read the FAQ of the (German speaking) newsgroup de.comp.security.firewall?

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anselm, @12-Sep-2002, 16:40 +0200 (15:40 UK time) Anselm Buehling [AB] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Are you using ZA or behind any firewall? This may be worth looking into. AB I, for one, do, so that might be a clue! But

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Thomas F.
Hello Marck, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:44:34 +0100 GMT (12/09/02, 19:44 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP I think you've missed the point. Are you using NAV? Some other MDP real-time POP3 virus scanner? MDP I don't. I have been a TB user for over 4 years and receive 200-400 MDP messages

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Blarp
Hi Technology, BBTE I prefer not to disable it because I BBTE consider it a last line of defense for outbound traffic in the event BBTE that something slips through my defenses. Get Kerio Personal Firewall. MUCH better than ZA+. Smaller footprint and more configurable. KPF has a few quirks of

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @12-Sep-2002, 22:28 +0700 (16:28 UK time) Thomas F. [TF] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MDP I'll wager it's nothing to do with TB though. TF Let's see. And now ZA peeps over the parapet yet again. If it were TB

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread William Moore
Hello William Thank you for your email dated Thursday, September 12, 2002, 3:35:12 PM, in which you wrote: BBTE If nothing else, I have been introduced to AVG Antivirus! Let me introduce you an even better one :-) www.eset.com -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! 1.61

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread William Moore
Hello Anselm Thank you for your email dated Thursday, September 12, 2002, 3:40:29 PM, in which you wrote: AB ... would that mean that no firewall can be used together with TB if AB you want to receive correct attachments? Certainly not. I have broadband, NOD32, and Sygate Pro firewall. No

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi William, @12-Sep-2002, 17:02 William Moore [WM] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: BBTE If nothing else, I have been introduced to AVG Antivirus! WM Let me introduce you an even better one :-) www.eset.com But the price is

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Eddy
BB When a message with multiple attachments arrives, if the attachments BB are Word files or JPGs, I can count on some file corruption. The JPGs BB will be unreadable or partly readable, for example. This is virtually BB guaranteed to happen if there are 3 or more attachments. BB When the

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread William Moore
Hello Marck Thank you for your email dated Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:06:12 PM, in which you wrote: MDP But the price is infinitely worse! Spoken like a true Londoner ;-) -- Regards William Flying with The Bat! 1.61 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat Windows 2000 Pro 2195 Service Pack 2

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 12:26:55 PM, Eddy wrote: Forwarding a message with a corrupt attachment to a non-TB! user always results in an attachment that is perfectly valid for the recipient If the file is alright after it is forwarded, it can't be corrupted when you get it. Where do

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Anselm, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:40:29 +0200GMT (12-9-02, 16:40 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: AB But would that mean that no firewall can be used together with TB AB if you want to receive correct attachments? No, it doesn't. I use TB, AVG and ZA (free version) and have never

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi Technology, On Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:35 your local time, (20:20 my local time), you [BBT] wrote: BBTE I'll try contacting Zone Labs, too. I had a bad experience with them. They kept sending me a same stock mail suggesting to turn off Mail Safe setting. When this didn't work, I

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Sudip Pokhrel
Hi Marck, On Thursday, September 12, 2002 16:08 your local time, (20:53 my local time), you [MDP] wrote: MDP Anyway, it may be, as advised, that disabling the mail scanning MDP functions of ZA (... why it's a firewall - what business does MDP it have scanning mail for pity's sake!) will be

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, September 12, 2002, 7:26:55 PM, you wrote: E Recently, I created a folder called Test, into which I put several E messages which are corrupt in TB!. I zip'd the Test folder E (containing the .TBB and .TBI files) and mailed it to several TB! E users. When they created a Test folder

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Eddy
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 1:36:01 PM, Dwight wrote: DAC On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 12:26:55 PM, Eddy wrote: Forwarding a message with a corrupt attachment to a non-TB! user always results in an attachment that is perfectly valid for the recipient DAC If the file is alright

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Eddy, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:38:37 [GMT -0400] (or 20:38 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: E On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 1:36:01 PM, Dwight wrote: DAC On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 12:26:55 PM, Eddy wrote: E Several TB! users have verified my claims

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Gerard
ON Thursday, September 12, 2002, 9:38:37 PM, you wrote: E Several TB! users have verified my claims after I sent them my Test E mailbox that contains 2 messages which are corrupt when viewed/saved E by TB! but are fine when forwarded to others. Eddy, I would like a go at this. Can you pls

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 17:25:21 [GMT -0400] (or 22:25 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ... A Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere? BBTE A Adam ... BBTE Everyone who has this

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 17:25:21 [GMT -0400] (or 22:25 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ... A Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a dodgy chip somewhere? BBTE A Adam ... BBTE Everyone who has this

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Mark, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:04:08 [GMT -0700] (or 23:04 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: MB Hello Marck, MB Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:44:34 AM, you wrote: MB I've seen corruption of various file types. MB Forwarding/redirecting the corrupt files back to

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Mark, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 15:04:08 [GMT -0700] (or 23:04 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: MB Hello Marck, MB Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:44:34 AM, you wrote: MB I'm using NAV 2002, and NIS2002. I just recently switched to TB! from MB PMMail2000 Pro. About

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Eddy
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:36:21 PM, Adam wrote: E Several TB! users have verified my claims after I sent them my Test E mailbox that contains 2 messages which are corrupt when viewed/saved E by TB! but are fine when forwarded to others. AR Tried swapping out your ram? You may have a

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Eddy
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 2:01:12 PM, Gerard wrote: G I am no expert on this but it sure looks like a corrupted Tbb or G TBI file. I belive you can delete index file and TB! will recreate G it. Have you tried that with a corrupted file in the folder? I don't think so; I can create a new

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Eddy, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:09:44 [GMT -0400] (or 23:09 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: E On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 4:36:21 PM, Adam wrote: E Several TB! users have verified my claims after I sent them my Test E mailbox that contains 2 messages which

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:23:19 [GMT -0400] (or 23:23 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ... A a) Its being corrupted in memory as the attachment is being reconstructed. BBTE Agreed, but would it not have the same

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Adam Rykala
Sh'mae Technology, On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, at 18:29:01 [GMT -0400] (or 23:29 in Wales) regarding 'Mangled attachments' you wrote: BBTE It seems that Adam Rykala said ... A The other thing that crosses my mind is filesystem - obviously you're on Win98 A and other people are on Winxp or

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, 5:09:44 PM, Eddy wrote: All the evidence I have encountered seem to point to a problem with how TB! is processing attachments after they are received. how about setting up an installation which saves attachments separate from the messages, and send some of

Re: Mangled attachments

2002-09-12 Thread Allie C Martin
In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roelof Otten [RO] wrote:' RO No, it doesn't. I use TB, AVG and ZA (free version) and have RO never received a corrupt attachment. BTW I run W98 and have got RO ADSL. Hmmm. One of the lucky ones. I hope it continues for you. I had no problems at first