Re: [Texascavers] Road-trip - part 5

2019-06-21 Thread Brian Riordan
Charles, I'm pretty sure the ultimate goal was the uncertainty, lack of control and pure misadventure of it. -Brian On Thu, Jun 20, 2019, 5:31 PM Charles Loving wrote: > Isn't Bockbeer too old and portly to travel like a vagabond? I quit hitch > hiking when I was mustered out of the AF. I had

Re: [Texascavers] NSS Convention

2019-06-17 Thread Brian Riordan
I had a friend once whom would purposefully sabotage every camping/ road trip. The tent fly would be gone. Fuel cannisters would be empty. We would have 15 lbs of sunflower seeds and no other food etc. His rationale was "No good story ever came from things going perfectly" . I didn't

Re: [Texascavers] Fw: Precipicio

2019-03-02 Thread Brian Riordan
I recall some talk of a new entrance being tunneled at Gruta de las palmitas at a more convenient elevation. Some of "improvements" like this sidnt seem to be in line with the goals of the annual clean up efforts or vision of that team. Or did i make that up? - Brian On Sat, Mar 2, 2019, 6:32

Re: [Texascavers] Stranded in Cave illnesses

2018-07-11 Thread Brian Riordan
ives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texasc

Re: [Texascavers] more cavepearls on Mars

2017-12-06 Thread Brian Riordan via Texascavers
There's and epic road trip Dave! You could offer to drive Musk's Tesla roadster to Mars! https://www.google.com/amp/s/auto.ndtv.com/news/elon-musk-to-send-his-personal-tesla-roadster-to-space-1783705/amp -Brian On Dec 6, 2017 4:31 PM, "Charles Loving via Texascavers" <

Re: [Texascavers] Mallory quotes re caving and cavers posted on her page

2013-08-15 Thread Brian Riordan
caving: Maybe I should spend more time underground. Roger G. Moore -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Mallory quotes re caving and cavers posted on her page

2013-08-15 Thread Brian Riordan
caving: Maybe I should spend more time underground. Roger G. Moore -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Riordan
faster I believe I'm sure people will have opinions on that. Also, thanks to Ron Green for doing the webinar on Geophysics in karst landscapes last night. I caught only the tail end, but there were tons of questions and very interested participants. -Neal Hines -- Brian Riordan

Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Riordan
faster I believe I'm sure people will have opinions on that. Also, thanks to Ron Green for doing the webinar on Geophysics in karst landscapes last night. I caught only the tail end, but there were tons of questions and very interested participants. -Neal Hines -- Brian Riordan

Re: [Texascavers] Estimate of stalactite growth (Merkel et al. 2008)

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Riordan
faster I believe I'm sure people will have opinions on that. Also, thanks to Ron Green for doing the webinar on Geophysics in karst landscapes last night. I caught only the tail end, but there were tons of questions and very interested participants. -Neal Hines -- Brian Riordan

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Brian Riordan
the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Brian Riordan
the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] new Texas law

2011-09-01 Thread Brian Riordan
the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] a very common misperception about groundwater

2011-08-29 Thread Brian Riordan
something to do with rain? Sleaze -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] a very common misperception about groundwater

2011-08-29 Thread Brian Riordan
something to do with rain? Sleaze -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] a very common misperception about groundwater

2011-08-29 Thread Brian Riordan
something to do with rain? Sleaze -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Just an experiment

2011-05-25 Thread Brian Riordan
few people actually post invitations to trips! -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Re: Just an experiment

2011-05-25 Thread Brian Riordan
few people actually post invitations to trips! -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future

2011-05-23 Thread Brian Riordan
...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future

2011-05-23 Thread Brian Riordan
...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] A warning from the future

2011-05-23 Thread Brian Riordan
...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Caver Gathering History

2011-05-20 Thread Brian Riordan
Caver #10 Dude, what the bloody hell is going on? On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: This is a rough draft. __ Year 23 Conversation between host and cavers: Host:Folks I am having a feast in the year 25, two years from

Re: [Texascavers] Caver Gathering History

2011-05-20 Thread Brian Riordan
Caver #10 Dude, what the bloody hell is going on? On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: This is a rough draft. __ Year 23 Conversation between host and cavers: Host:Folks I am having a feast in the year 25, two years from

Re: [Texascavers] Caver Gathering History

2011-05-20 Thread Brian Riordan
Caver #10 Dude, what the bloody hell is going on? On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:51 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: This is a rough draft. __ Year 23 Conversation between host and cavers: Host:Folks I am having a feast in the year 25, two years from

Re: [Texascavers] OT - map of nuclear plant location

2011-03-15 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] New trailer for James Cameron's Sanctum

2010-10-28 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Chilean Miner Rescue happening right now

2010-10-12 Thread Brian Riordan
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[Texascavers] Fwd: Houston Chapter of THSOA Technical Panel and Discussion Luncheon

2010-09-03 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: mine rescue in Chile

2010-08-26 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Is this noteworthy ?

2010-05-18 Thread Brian Riordan
...@att.net wrote: Better we call it a 'multi-purpose tool' than a sex toy. --Ediger On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:45 AM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/images/605410/0_61_320_oldest_sex_toy.jpg http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,593072,00.html -- Brian Riordan 979

Re: [Texascavers] OT Fwd: Bee die off smoking gun...

2010-03-25 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: Guns in National Parks, caves, and elsewhere:

2010-02-22 Thread Brian Riordan
Have they no faith in their imaginary gods? ... ...and it is up to us to see to it that god’s work gets done! ... Really? Truly? Are you still having trouble with the concept of not blatantly insulting comrades around the virtual campfire here? Are you so angry that you just can't keep those

Re: [Texascavers] Bad air caves

2010-02-19 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Brian Riordan
[mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] *Sent:* Fri 2/19/2010 1:20 PM *To:* Andy Zenker; mark gee *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things. G -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile

[Texascavers] Climate tracking with sea cave stalagtites

2010-02-13 Thread Brian Riordan
Here's a stick in the spokes- things are always more complicated... http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=sea-caves-reveal-rapid-rise-in-ancient-ocean-levels -B -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Deer warning whistles

2010-02-11 Thread Brian Riordan
-- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/11/10 07:35:00 -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] GPS degradation

2010-02-10 Thread Brian Riordan
/8494225.stm *Researchers say the Sun is awakening after a period of low activity, which does not bode well for a world ever more dependent on satellite navigation.* The Sun's irregular activity can wreak havoc with the weak sat-nav signals we use. --Ediger -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009

Re: [Texascavers] GPS degradation

2010-02-10 Thread Brian Riordan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Brian Riordan riordan.br...@gmail.comwrote: This would, on the surface, be of great interests to the those seeking the cause of global warming no? On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote: Here's a link to an article about GPS

Re: [Texascavers] something silly on web

2010-02-09 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: to Geary's question about A.S.S.

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Great cave photos

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Riordan
of caves on the National Geographic web page. Anyway, here is the link. G http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photos/cave-exploration/#40111_600x450.jpg -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] Vermont NSS Convention info

2010-02-02 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Re: underground texting

2010-02-01 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] Landslide in San Antonio

2010-01-27 Thread Brian Riordan
bet will be to cut and run. Get a good lawyer and recoup your investment, then leave and don't look back. The cheap dirt mountain on which your houses was built will never be stable or safe. Rob -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com

Re: [Texascavers] What is it that we fear here?

2010-01-27 Thread Brian Riordan
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Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance

2010-01-25 Thread Brian Riordan
I distinctly recall having ASS meetings where we talked about caves that individuals COULD go to if they had the correct permission. And then after the meeting, someone would let it slip that they had information where that was, and invite all their friends... Who of course happened to be at the

Re: [Texascavers] leaf cutter ants

2010-01-18 Thread Brian Riordan
I have always associated these ants with tropical regions, but when house hunting two months ago, spotted a leaf cutter train in someones front yard about 30 miles West of Houston (Fullshear area). On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Sam Young youn...@centurytel.net wrote: I saw some leaf cutter

Re: [Texascavers] cave rescue related

2009-11-29 Thread Brian Riordan
This law about calling 911 seems subjective. If we were required by law everytime there was a cave accident (whatever that is) I think I would have called it at least a half a dozen times by now. There are plenty of times I've been with someone stuck or have been stuck myself for far longer than

Re: [Texascavers] Is this an ice cave ??

2009-09-03 Thread Brian Riordan
There used to be (may still be) a glacier in Valdez, Alaska that had a river flowing through it that would run in the summer and freeze in the winter (novel concept). If you hiked up the frozen river tunnel, there would be a fair sized frozen lake a couple hundred yards up. A few of my friends

Re: RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related

2009-09-01 Thread Brian Riordan
Foil hat- I hear ya Joe! I'm currently working on building a compliant Faraday Cage to keep out Big Brother (who I'll from here on out I'll refer to as Big Stepdad) I'm gonna call it the Faraday Freedom Frock (working title). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage If you don't mind

Re: [Texascavers] Rethinking the delete button

2009-08-28 Thread Brian Riordan
...and I feel blessed—albeit in a very non-religious, non-denominational way... Yah, but be careful how you word things or say things around the campfire. If someone thinks you believe in God, or have a faith different from theirs you'll get roasted! It's a melting pot that just might include

Re: [Texascavers] delete button

2009-08-27 Thread Brian Riordan
All, I don't mind so much either way. I firmly believe Gmail is the way to go- it automatically files responses all together, truncating my inbox list, and has enough space that I don't care if I have unread messages (10,860 unread messages and counting). This option, of course, would drive

Re: [Texascavers] delete button

2009-08-27 Thread Brian Riordan
Charles, I hope it was understood that I was being facetious... On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Charles Goldsmithwo...@justfamily.org wrote: Then there are the messages that people are going to ramble in, to get their word count up high enough, and it will be pointless (or more so than

Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls goes caving (with a torch made of a strip of t-shirt soaked in wild boar fat)

2009-08-21 Thread Brian Riordan
Ok, so maybe Bear has some help. Maybe he spits out the zebra corpse and chases the taste away with big mac as soon as the shot is over. He might even get foot rubs every night and sleep on siberian goose down comforters with 1500 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets. Regardless, he's a badass on

Re: [Texascavers] bright lights and flares

2009-06-11 Thread Brian Riordan
Ok, so flares seem like they are out. What about those propane/butane lanterns (similar to those ones companies like Coleman produce with those synthetic socks)? Other than obviously depleting oxygen at a higher rate, are there any other emission concerns I should have? -B On Wed, Jun 10, 2009

Re: [Texascavers] Figure-8 not proper for caving?

2009-06-11 Thread Brian Riordan
Why would this be improper specifically for vertical caving? The figure 8 will twist any rope. The only reason I can think of that any caver would think it improper is because you can't lock it off. But you can lock off a rescue figure 8... You also lock off Petzl's Pirana, which is very

Re: [Texascavers] Figure-8 not proper for caving?

2009-06-11 Thread Brian Riordan
So there should be no twist issues at the equator? Or do you rig it to have a forward or front exit at that latitude?... So many nuances to this issue! :) On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Geary Schindelgschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote: That's correct, To counteract the spin, some folks

Re: [Texascavers] FW: Bat boxes definitely work

2009-06-11 Thread Brian Riordan
Are there any recommended vendors or build-yourself plans for bat boxes similar to the successful design mentioned by Marylou? I've looked at several bat box designs, and none of them seemed at all comparable to typical natural bat roosts. None of them seemed able to accomodate any more than 20

Re: [Texascavers] flares in caves: just say NO

2009-06-10 Thread Brian Riordan
It's better to ask for forgiveness than for permission... Sigh. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Jim Kennedyjkenn...@batcon.org wrote: Don’t do it!  Flares are incredibly harmful to cave life, as well as cavers.  Also don’t burn magnesium flares in caves either.  Sure, they are bright and cool

Re: [Texascavers] Best Use of 'These Awful Movies

2009-06-10 Thread Brian Riordan
I think the movie was The Cave; I recall every caver had a different set-up. Some had bike helmets, some had lights on their chest like Iron Man, and others had lights mounted on their arms. They definitely used dynamic ropes, and belay devices that allowed them to race each other to the bottom.

Re: [Texascavers] Best Use of 'These Awful Movies

2009-06-10 Thread Brian Riordan
And many of those flares will burn when completely submerged in water OO I am definitely bringing flares next time- the photography possibilities alone! On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Allan B. Cobba...@oztotl.com wrote: Flares make lots of smoke in caves.  It is probably not good for

Re: [Texascavers] Best Use of 'These Awful Movies

2009-06-10 Thread Brian Riordan
Bustamante is EXACTLY what I had in mind. Not, say... whirlpool. :) On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:33 PM, ke...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Damn Crackberry. Md should have read Mn... --Original Message-- From: AAA Home To: Lyndon Tiu To: texascavers@texascavers.com ReplyTo: AAA Home Subject:

Re: [Texascavers] OT - price of gas

2008-12-11 Thread Brian Riordan
It all depends. A classic Texas gusher takes nothing to get a lot. Deepwater fields cost a certain amount to initiate, produce and transport, if the current price doesn't offset that, they lose, while the Texas gusher may still make money. Canadian Oil Sands require even more to upgrade the oil

Re: [Texascavers] RE: Nasty experiences with bat guano

2008-12-05 Thread Brian Riordan
ugggh, that is foul. I couldn't finish my coffee after reading those. Sounds like *guanogeddon!* ** -B On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:55 PM, George Veni gv...@warpdriveonline.comwrote: *I didn't put the passage's name on the map because there wasn't space. I really wanted to because it is one

Re: [Texascavers] photo

2008-09-30 Thread Brian Riordan
I too am interested in how it was created and if it was photoshopped- not to discredit any art involved, but to ease my mind. There is no way, at any film iso speed that my camera can operate at anyhow, that I could that much light from the Milky Way into my sensor without getting motion

[Texascavers] OT-Re: [Texascavers] RE: gas prices

2008-07-21 Thread Brian Riordan
I seem to be ideally situated to respond to this thread and article- here goes some stream of conscious: 1. I am currently an installation engineer for a company contracted for the engineering, procurement, construction and installation of an offshore and subsea petroleum system for a project at

Re: [Texascavers] caving in northeastern Iraq?

2008-07-16 Thread Brian Riordan
Two enormous bats.? Two enormous SPECIES or two ancient, cycolpean individuals I'm crossing my fingers for the latter. About the caves: this doesn't surprise me- I have long been under the impression that anywhere the US goes to war, the ground is riddled with caves (Afghanistan, Iraq,

Re: [Texascavers] Illusory forms of troglobitic religion

2008-07-11 Thread Brian Riordan
You've once again crammed a lot of words into a small idea: That your self-righteous superior knowledge of the mysteries of the universe entitle you to unprovokedly and repeatedly personally criticize those who believe differently. If you'll review the previous posts you'll realize that there has

Re: [Texascavers] Hippie chix, healing

2008-07-10 Thread Brian Riordan
Religion/ *re·li·gion, *noun A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. -Invisible man who makes things -Things happening by themselves over an un-monitorable period of time in contradiction to accepted laws of physics Either one fits the bill I suppose. And

Re: [Texascavers] OT again?

2008-07-10 Thread Brian Riordan
Thanks Travis. I know it's always a difficult decision how to respond to something that might have offended you. Sometimes I feel responsible to defend my beliefs, and sometimes to just dispell some ignorance or misunderstandings. Sometimes I interpret a joke incorrectly and feel compelled to

Re: [Texascavers] solar incentives going away 12/08

2008-07-07 Thread Brian Riordan
This is why high gas prices are good. We won't get realistic alternative energy development until it's profitable- which hasn't been the case. If solar panel manufacturing/installation companies can't survive without government help, then it's not economically viable at this point. If predicted

Re: [Texascavers] Ticks and Ticks

2008-04-28 Thread Brian Riordan
I've been lead to believe that you could use a bottle of whiskey and a red-hot iron to fix about anything, but I have limited experience in medicine. -Brian On 4/28/08, Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Rub some dirt on it and walk it off. But seriously, I'd have it looked it,

Re: [Texascavers] Thoughts on OT postings

2008-01-13 Thread Brian Riordan
This is ridiculous- this appears to be largely dealt with in the The Rules on www.texascavers.com. There did not seem to be any significant issues until there were a couple blatant violations of Rule numero uno: *One: THOU SHALT NOT FLAME!** Civil discourse and discussion is encouraged. It's ok

Re: [Texascavers] To all writers of OT topics

2008-01-11 Thread Brian Riordan
I don't know how much of a dent in oil consumption this saves, and it seems an expensive alternative, but it's good to see some alternatives out there: http://www.ecoproducts.com/Home/home_biobags/home_biogrocery_bags.htm On 1/11/08, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Even if this

Re: [Texascavers] Science, Evolution and Creationism

2008-01-10 Thread Brian Riordan
I signed up for this listserve to go caving, camping, playing guitar around bonfires and having a good time with people who enjoy the outdoors. What I have recieved from cavetex is something entirely different. Since your response was to the whole listserve- I can only assume to increase the

[Texascavers] Re: Way OT Re: [Texascavers] Science, Evolution and Creationism--free download from the National Academies Press

2008-01-09 Thread Brian Riordan
. I felt this was pertinent to this list serve as the topic of biology and evolution (with respect to troglobitic creatures) is a common one in caving. Diana On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Brian Riordan wrote: Addressed to the many evolution vs. creationism e-mails i've recieved the last few

Re: [Texascavers] Science, Evolution and Creationism--free download from the National Academies Press

2008-01-09 Thread Brian Riordan
Addressed to the many evolution vs. creationism e-mails i've recieved the last few months: What alarms me the most, is not only how often this list serve is used to debate science, evolution and creationism, but how there are no questions about creationism, only derogatory comments towards

Re: [Texascavers] TCR chiggers

2007-10-30 Thread Brian Riordan
From Wikipedia: The North American genus and species can cause severe illness in children. This only occurs when the infestation is particularly heavy. *Symptoms include a hallucinatory sense of floating outside one's body, fatigue, fever and general malaise.* ** Anybody have chigger bites like

Re: [Texascavers] RE: OT- aluminum bottled beer

2007-10-29 Thread Brian Riordan
I had some guy pitch the aluminum bottle as an engineering marvel that makes beer colder somehow... I think the reality of the matter is that aluminum conducts heat far better than glass, so when you put your hand around an aluminum bottle, all the cold from your beer inside is quickly and

Re: [Texascavers] Aggie Speleological Society at TCR

2007-10-19 Thread Brian Riordan
But officially, ASS is 30 years old. I can't say when people started caving while attending classes at AM, or who went to AM and ended up caving sometimes in their lives, OR when people first thought that A.S.S. was a sexy acronym and recruiting tool. I do know, however, that Dr. Robert Lyton is

Re: [Texascavers] hitting reply

2007-10-01 Thread Brian Riordan
I don't know how or why, but sometimes hitting replly will reply to the individual, but CC the listserve. Best method is to remain vigilant. Or, be abstinate. That way you KNOW you'll never accidently reply to the whole list... But then, you don't have the pleasureable feeling of replying...

Re: [Texascavers] RE: PET

2007-09-19 Thread Brian Riordan
I read something the other day that really enouraged me and I feel is appropriate in this conversation: *Whatever doesn't kill you, postpones the inevitable* Kinda puts everything in perspective. On 9/19/07, Fofo gonza...@msu.edu wrote: About a year ago, National Geographic had a really

Re: [Texascavers] OT - homebrewing query

2007-09-18 Thread Brian Riordan
Sorry for the length of this one... 4 weeks is a short amount of time for a beer, or a wine or even a mead But it's PLENTY of time for a small mead. In fact, you can make a small mead for consumption by this weekend, and another every week before TCR to pefect your recipie. But Brian, what

Re: [Texascavers] clash of cultures

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Riordan
*Anyway, if the locals really object, well, missionaries are said to be good eatin'.* It's true- most these missionaries are all white meat. -B On 8/28/07, George Nincehelser geo...@nincehelser.com wrote: On 8/28/07, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Just consider

Re: [Texascavers] Creation Museum

2007-08-29 Thread Brian Riordan
What is with the focus of white guys playing archangels? Is it common knowlege another race is more often represented in the heavenly host? Should they be focusing more on equal opportunity angels? What's the issue with painters overalls? Would Samoans in leotards better convey the message? Is

Re: [Texascavers] [Bat Caught by Stalactite] - warning Ediger-length diatribe

2007-07-17 Thread Brian Riordan
Quick distinction and then I'll get back to being productive at work: There is a difference between evolution as a viable mechanism for life that already exists, and evolution as the origin of life. While this statement is probably controversial, I don't think evolution in a living organism

Re: [Texascavers] [Bat Caught by Stalactite]

2007-07-17 Thread Brian Riordan
Once again I'm going to have to question the wisdom in mocking religion on this listserve... So yes, caves, in the right conditions, can form far more quickly than sometimes stated as uniform. Just as a private company can build a road 10 times quicker than the state- it varies with

Re: [Texascavers] [Bat Caught by Stalactite]

2007-07-17 Thread Brian Riordan
... I'm not sure what a rebuttle is, maybe you meant my rebuttal. In that case: Thank you for your constructive criticism, if you want to talk more about carbon dating we can do that, keeping in mind that the whole point I made before is that calibration is based on very large assumptions. In

Re: [Texascavers] [Bat Caught by Stalactite]

2007-07-17 Thread Brian Riordan
I apologize, that last e-mail wasn't meant for the whole listserve... *sheepish grin* On 7/17/07, Brian Riordan riordan.br...@gmail.com wrote: ... I'm not sure what a rebuttle is, maybe you meant my rebuttal. In that case: Thank you for your constructive criticism, if you want to talk more

Re: [Texascavers] How to Cook Bats - Don't

2007-06-26 Thread Brian Riordan
I don't think hell was ever mentioned prior to leviticus so it is likely that it did not exist. in addition, i suspect, like dogs, there were far fewer species of bats. And maybe bats are listed under birds for the sake of brevity. if God said they were mammals, then he'd have to say why, then

[Texascavers] Where in Belize?

2007-06-07 Thread Brian Riordan
I'm going to be going down to Belize within the week and rumor has it Alan Cobb is caving down there. Does anyone know how/where I would go to bump into him there? -Brian Riordan On 6/7/07, Fritz Holt fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: Most of us who keep up with legitimate auto news