Re: [Texascavers] Hondo cave featured on TPR tomorrow, Oct. 15

For those who missed the on-air broadcast of the Hondo cave, here's a link to the online article with audio. https://www.tpr.org/news/2022-10-16/cavern-discovered-on-a-ranch-in-medina-county --Bennett From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Bennett Lee Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:35 AM To:

Re: [Texascavers] Seco Valley Ranch Report

Crystal, this would make an excellent article for *The TEXAS CAVER*. Jim On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 7:48 PM Crystal GT wrote: > Hello! > > Please Read the Attached Summary Report on Seco Valley, listen to the > National Public Radio report, and watch the video made by the owners below. > >

Re: [Texascavers] TSA's Fall Business Meeting Sunday 10/16 at 9 a.m. at TCR

Update: pre-registration for TCR closes at 7PM tonight. Jessica Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 13, 2022, at 8:11 AM, Carl Kunath wrote: > >  > Registration link closed at 08:00 Thursday! > >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 10:09 PM Jessica Gordon wrote: >> TSA's Fall Business Meeting will be this

Re: [Texascavers] TSA's Fall Business Meeting Sunday 10/16 at 9 a.m. at TCR

Registration link closed at 08:00 Thursday! On Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 10:09 PM Jessica Gordon wrote: > TSA's Fall Business Meeting will be this Sunday (16 October) at TCR at > 9 a.m. in the Dining Hall. > > Here is the link to pre-register for TCR (this option closes at midnight > on Thursday): > >

Re: [Texascavers] Thirteen Lives

The movie *Thirteen Lives* will be shown online at 7 PM CDT on August 11, free for AARP members: https://watch.aarp.org/aarpmfg/play/62e96e18560e2a00618b7b1c Miles Abernathy On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 11:17 PM Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Yesterday I watched the movie *Thirteen Lives* (2022, 2 hrs. 30

Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Sink trip report

@texascavers.com] *On > Behalf Of *grub...@centurytel.net > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2022 6:35 PM > *To:* texascavers > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Sink trip report > > > > Cascade Sink always had a problem with sunfish and bullhead catfish in the > main passage. R

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Scientists discover places on the moon where it's always 'sweater weather'

So we've messed up the Earth so much we can just go to the moon and mess it up. Linda On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 5:26 PM Lee H. Skinner wrote: > People could potentially live and work in lunar pits and caves with steady > temperatures in the 60s: > > >

Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Sink trip report

, though. Marvin From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of grub...@centurytel.net Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 6:35 PM To: texascavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Sink trip report Cascade Sink always had a problem with sunfish and bullhead catfish

Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Sink trip report

:12 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Sink trip report Those web worms are the predatory larvae of fungus gnats. No salamanders? Andrew. Gluesenkamp, PhD 700 Billie Brooks Lane Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com <mailt

Re: [Texascavers] Lost contact address

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Re: [Texascavers] July 15 deadline to order book, Caving with Mitch

I printed the pdf, read it cover to cover, learned some things about the beginning of caving in Mexico, and bought a printed copy. Not one to miss. Thanks Bill Elliott and Linda Mitchell for bringing it to us. Bill Steele > On Jul 14, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Reddell, James R > wrote: > >  > I

Re: [Texascavers] July 15 deadline to order book, Caving with Mitch

Thank you for all the hard work editing the book and thank you for sharing. I've scanned the pictures which look great and look forward to reading the book. Geary On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:41 AM Reddell, James R < jreddell.ca...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote: > I have read the book and found it

Re: [Texascavers] July 15 deadline to order book, Caving with Mitch

I have read the book and found it very well written and a fascinating account of pioneering caving techniques and adventures. Wonderful historic photos by Mitchell. Bill has done a superb job of editing and laying it out. Well worth the money! James From:

Re: [Texascavers] Information on 5 cavers who passed away

Hi Bill, I remember Tommy well. The Austin Statesman has his obituary online. He and John Kreidler accompanied Bill as teenagers on that first exploratory trip to Huautla. They left from my house. This is not for the caver obituary, but just about Tommy. He was a bit of a flower child. Once he

Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Sink trip report corrected

Thanks for posting your trip report, Marvin. I think maybe this is the cave I went to with Vernelle Elliott in summer 1970 to collect salamanders. I didn't do any sump diving, but I remember climbing out on rope, when I spotted a large *Scolopendra* centipede on the ledge below the entrance. I had

Re: [Texascavers] Cascade Sink trip report

Excellent trip report, Marvin! Bill > On Jul 4, 2022, at 9:34 AM, Marvin Miller wrote: > >  > On Saturday, July 2, seven cavers entered Cascade Sink (not the commercial > cave) in Comal County. Three persons – Gerry Geletske, Marvin Miller, and > John Young – were a survey team hoping to

Re: [Texascavers] New book, Caving With Mitch

I also did not see any AMCS publications for sale at the NSS Convenbtion. There isn't anything new, though; as far as I know there hasn't been an Activities Newsletter since No. 42 (2019). :-( Mark On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 10:01 AM Bill Steele wrote: > Hola Bill, > > I printed a copy and am

Re: [Texascavers] New book, Caving With Mitch

Hola Bill, I printed a copy and am reading it. Wow, in the middle of page 14 Ab tells about meeting and being befriended by Bertha Semple. I knew her. In the fall of 1971 she and her husband, John, who lived across the road from Edward James’ Los Pozos, took me in and I stayed about a month

Re: [Texascavers] Dr. Dwight Deal passed away

Thank you, Jim and Mimi. The Texas cavers have surely responded and have given me further comfort. I knew how well Dwight was known and respected -- and how looong he has known folks. His heart was always with them! With appreciation, Mary and Dwight's family > On 06/25/2022 2:37

Re: [Texascavers] Dr. Dwight Deal passed away

So very sorry to hear this  He will be greatly missed! I know Jim knew him, and I have heard and read of him since 1973 when I started my caving life in Texas. Our community is once again diminished. Our thoughts and prayers go out to Mary and family and friends ❤️ Jim and Mimi Jasek Waco, Tx

Re: [Texascavers] Dr. Dwight Deal passed away

We have more info on Dwight Deal's dates: Born April 18, 1938 Died Saturday, June 11, 2022, 2:00 AM, Parker, CO Dwight fell asleep in his chair on Fri. June 10. Mary says that the coroner fixed the time of death at 2:00 am Sat. June 11. Mary Fletcher Deal is at chin...@comcast.net

Re: [Texascavers] email re Dwight sent too soon

Mary, I hope I had your address right-- 21810 Longs Peak Ln Parker, CO 80138 Is that correct? Bill E, On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 1:44 PM William R. Elliott wrote: > Got it! Thanks. > > *William R. (Bill) Elliott* > > 30105 Briarcrest Court > > Georgetown, Texas 78628 > >

Re: [Texascavers] email re Dwight sent too soon

Got it! Thanks. *William R. (Bill) Elliott* 30105 Briarcrest Court Georgetown, Texas 78628 *speodes...@gmail.com * 573-291-5093 cell On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 1:32 PM Mary Fletcher Deal wrote: > Sorry, guess I was pulling a Dwight and responding way too long to your > question, Bill.

Re: [Texascavers] Aquismon, is in the news

It happened a couple of weeks ago. Bottom line, don’t join a cartel. Allan Smart phone, stupid autocorrect > On Jun 24, 2022, at 5:42 PM, Jon wrote: > >  > In the news: > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/7-bodies-dumped-huasteca-mexico-warning-messages-corpses/ > > Has anyone else heard about

Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

Heather, That will be published in a year plus? By then I hope we have more to report. Ask me again sometime before the deadline for submissions. Marvin On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 5:52 AM Heather Tucek wrote: > Can we put this in the next Texas Caver? > > > > On Saturday, 4 June 2022, Marvin Miller

Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

Can we put this in the next Texas Caver? On Saturday, 4 June 2022, Marvin Miller wrote: > Kelsey Dennis and Mio Kitano joined me today to finish up a little bit of > muddy survey and to push leads in Dinosaur Cave. Dinosaur Cave is a 642 > meter-long cave in Comal County. The survey went

Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

A really interesting, descriptive, and well written trip report. Great for us temporary shut-ins! Mark From: Marvin Miller Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2022 5:34 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave Good name. We will keep it! On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 1:29 PM

Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

Good name. We will keep it! On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 1:29 PM Kurt Menking wrote: > Flaco in Spanish is skinny. Team skinny > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 12:06 PM Marvin Miller wrote: > >> team flaco? I don't get the reference. >> >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 8:15 AM Kurt Menking wrote: >> >>> Great trip.

Re: [Texascavers] Texascavers: Dinosaur Cave

time to resurrect William's Golden Crowbar award . . . k On 05.06.2022, at 19:25, Lee H. Skinner mailto:skin...@thuntek.net>> wrote: Thanks, Marvin. A great report that all cave diggers will love! Lee Skinner On 6/5/2022 10:00 AM,

Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

Flaco in Spanish is skinny. Team skinny On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 12:06 PM Marvin Miller wrote: > team flaco? I don't get the reference. > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 8:15 AM Kurt Menking wrote: > >> Great trip. Congrats to team flaco. >> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2022, 9:14 PM Marvin Miller wrote: >> >>>

Re: [Texascavers] Texascavers: Dinosaur Cave

Thanks, Marvin. A great report that all cave diggers will love! Lee Skinner On 6/5/2022 10:00 AM, texascavers-requ...@texascavers.com wrote: Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2022 21:14:11 -0500 From: Marvin Miller To:Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave Message-ID:

Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

team flaco? I don't get the reference. On Sun, Jun 5, 2022, 8:15 AM Kurt Menking wrote: > Great trip. Congrats to team flaco. > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022, 9:14 PM Marvin Miller wrote: > >> Kelsey Dennis and Mio Kitano joined me today to finish up a little bit of >> muddy survey and to push leads

Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

Great trip. Congrats to team flaco. On Sat, Jun 4, 2022, 9:14 PM Marvin Miller wrote: > Kelsey Dennis and Mio Kitano joined me today to finish up a little bit of > muddy survey and to push leads in Dinosaur Cave. Dinosaur Cave is a 642 > meter-long cave in Comal County. The survey went about 2

Re: [Texascavers] Dinosaur Cave

Great trip report! Thank you for sharing it. - from julia's cell Julia G Germany c: 281.979.9208 e: ju...@trigrants.com > On Jun 4, 2022, at 21:14, Marvin Miller wrote: > >  > Kelsey Dennis and Mio Kitano joined me today to finish up a little bit of > muddy survey and to push leads in

Re: [Texascavers] Kenny McGee

The NSS has Carol and Kenny listed with the same email: kennymcge...@gmail.com On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 9:33 AM Sheryl Rieck wrote: > Anyone heard anything about Kenny? How he is doing? > > Sheryl Rieck > sheryl.ri...@gmail.com > > "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you

Re: [Texascavers] Speelunker Cave ride to open at Six Flags Over Texas :

I graduated from high School in 1977 and went to Arlington and stayed with my oldest sister and her late husband for that Summer, I worked nights at a place called Meritex Plastics on Randoll Mill Rd making A framed little hollow bars for integrated circuit chips it was 19.5 inches long and

Re: [Texascavers] Speelunker Cave ride to open at Six Flags Over Texas :

This will set back caving, or at least caving as conceived of by the general public, about 1,000 years... On Fri, May 13, 2022, 4:16 AM Jerry wrote: > Classic Six Flags Over Texas Ride Returns With Modern Updates > Pirates of Speelunker Cave will be open to the general public this Saturday > >

Re: [Texascavers] Speelunker Cave ride to open at Six Flags Over Texas :

Not exactly the way I remember caving in Mexico... On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 4:16 AM Jerry wrote: > Classic Six Flags Over Texas Ride Returns With Modern Updates > Pirates of Speelunker Cave will be open to the general public this Saturday > >

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Bats tell predators to 'buzz off' — literally

Interesting: https://www.livescience.com/buzzing-bats-deter-predators Another article on the buzzing bats: These bats buzz like wasps and bees. The sound may deter hungry owls: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/bats-buzz-sounds-mimick-wasps-bees-owls Lee

Re: [Texascavers] Water Quality Lands help needed by TCMA

I left Austin 25 years ago and that sort of ended my caving career. No, I live on the Nueches . My place has a five acre lake. Gary Schindle has been out here looking at our water situation and given us advice. The drought is not abating and water will soon, if it isn't already a major concern.

Re: [Texascavers] Veryovkina Cave

Indeed, the bottom of Veryovkina is hardly the closest humans have been to the center of the earth. In addition to deep mines, ocean dives by bathyspheres, etc. have been to over 6.5 miles down in the Mariana Trench. That guy didn't do his homework. Mark Minton On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 4:24 PM

Re: [Texascavers] Important carbide lamp collection for sale

My Tecate beer can lamp, as well as Logan's can lamp, are made from steel cans, which gives some idea of how old they are. Steel cans were pretty much phased out in favor of aluminum in the 1970s - 1980s, so they're likely at least 40 -50 years old. Mark On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 8:44 PM Mark

Re: [Texascavers] Important carbide lamp collection for sale

tiny carbide light. I found one about the size of my hand. It is very worn but all of it is there. On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 12:42 PM William R. Elliott wrote: > *Important carbide lamp collection for sale* > > The LM Collection of carbide lamps will be for sale starting April 19, > 2022. This is

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Mimi, we are with you and Jim. I'll call you today. *William R. (Bill) Elliott* 30105 Briarcrest Court Georgetown, Texas 78628 *speodes...@gmail.com * 573-291-5093 cell On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 4:49 AM Mimi Jasek wrote: > I will be bringing Jim home soon since the facility has said he has

Re: [Texascavers] Blind Mexican cave fish are developing cave-specific accents :

Thanks, Bill. I do have a copy of Bulletin 26, and after I sent my email I looked up Subterráneo. I should have done that before sending my message. For some reason that name hadn't stuck with me. Mark On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:26 AM William R. Elliott wrote: > Cueva del Subterráneo is the

Re: [Texascavers] Blind Mexican cave fish are developing cave-specific accents :

Cueva del Subterráneo is the most studied of the three Micos caves in the Micos or Río Subterráneo Area, located 15 km west of Ciudad Valles, San Luis Potosí, in the small Sierra de San Dieguito, just west of Sierra la Colmena. The map was published in 2018:

Re: [Texascavers] Blind Mexican cave fish are developing cave-specific accents :

Thanks, Andy. Mark On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:06 AM Andy Gluesenkamp < andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I was just there last month. Cueva Rio Subterraneo is a few KM NE of > Rascon, SLP, not far from Micos. It is adjacent to Cueva los Otates. > Here's a pic of a surface fish trying to

Re: [Texascavers] Blind Mexican cave fish are developing cave-specific accents :

Very interesting. I've heard of most of the caves they mentioned, but not Subterráneo. Anyone know about that cave? Mark Minton On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 3:58 AM Jerry wrote: > Blind Mexican cave fish are developing cave-specific accents > The Mexican tetra has evolved to live in a number of

Re: [Texascavers] repair for fiberglass tape

If you make the repair using duct tape or something similar, consider putting in a couple of stitches with a sewing awl. That will go a long way toward preventing the repair from pulling apart. Alternatively, I've just used the tape starting at the 2-meter mark, or whatever, and subtracting 2 m

Re: [Texascavers] repair for fiberglass tape

If you already have some Tear-Aid tape at home, I would give it a try (and if you haven't tried it, it's a good one to keep around for patching tents, down sleeping bags or jackets, etc). Type A is general purpose and type B is for vinyl. - Fofo > El mar. 29, 2022, a la(s) 15:07, Jim

Re: [Texascavers] repair for fiberglass tape

Or buy a brand new tape from Harbor Freight Tools for $13. https://www.harborfreight.com/100-ft-x-12-in-open-reel-measuring-tape-62411.html Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Diana Tomchick > wrote: > >  Or you can buy a replacement tape for your reel from

Re: [Texascavers] Repair for fiberglass tape

Or you can buy a replacement tape for your reel from Forestry Supplies for less than $20. https://www.forestry-suppliers.com/product_pages/ViewItem.php?itemnum=39977 Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cave and karst news and announcements from NCKRI

John, et. al., I am anti-war, but the Ukraine is suffering from war with Russia to protect Ukraine freedom, some of which was taken in Crimea. I am strongly anti-Russia and V. Putin - a criminal agitator who spreads lies to make his inhumane actions justified. They are NOT justified. I

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cave and karst news and announcements from NCKRI

Right on, Stan. We cannot belittle the horrible Russian invasion of Ukraine people and their families and the land. We must stand strongly against Russians as long as they follow this cruel monster Putin. Linda Starr On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 9:40 PM 'Stan Allison' via Southwestern Cavers of the

Re: [Texascavers] Vampire Bat Immigration

One should be careful when sleeping in the open air in vampire bat country. They apparently are known to feed on exposed extremities like toes. Bummer if they make it to Texas, or even Bustamante. They used to be found only further south. Mark Minton On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 7:41 PM Bob West

Re: [Texascavers] [Sandia Grotto]: Miniature cave robots

What happens if they get lost in the cracks or fall down a droooff? Linda On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 1:33 PM Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Here is an interesting story on robotic bugs: > > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/03/220303191454.htm > > > "... researchers at the University of

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Keep us all informed of progress. Bet we can work something out if he is up to coming. Love to you both. On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 2:44 PM Bill Steele wrote: > Mimi, > > Maybe some bighearted Texas cavers have an RV they could bring to the TSA > convention for Jim and you to use and they sleep in

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Mimi, Maybe some bighearted Texas cavers have an RV they could bring to the TSA convention for Jim and you to use and they sleep in a tent. That would be nice of them. Bill > On Mar 4, 2022, at 1:22 PM, Kris Pena wrote: > >  > Hi Mimi, > > Cave Without A Name rents out sites with RV

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Hi Mimi, Cave Without A Name rents out sites with RV hookups in the campground. Not sure if that's an option for y'all but wanted to make sure you knew about it. You'd still have to bring your own RV and the campsite has a separate fee payable directly to Cave Without A Name ($32 a night I think,

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Sorry Bill, Went to help him and hit send button before done! I am sure he would love a copy of that map. If it is the cave I am thinking of, I have also been in it, but not on a camping trip. Rehab and PTO for me will determine next steps, but I will keep in touch. Sincerely, Mimi Sent

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Hi Bill, What a lovely and generous offer! I had spoken to Jim about the convention already and was trying to figure out how to get him there. He had expressed interest in going. Let us see how rehab goes, and if a possibility I will reach out. We no longer even have a workable tent anymore or

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Mimi, I’m so sorry to hear about Jim. That’s dreadful! Y’all are always in my prayers and I especially pray for him that he’ll get stronger, fast! Please let me know if y’all ever need some company! I’ll gladly come up and visit! Just let me know when and I’ll clear my schedule. My number is

Re: [Texascavers] James Jasek Update

Dear Mimi. Thanks for the report on Jim’s status and broken hip. That’s tough. Wishing you both the best. Maybe I could come up from Georgetown sometime to visit y’all. I would like to help and don’t want to be waited on. Thanks William R. (Bill) Elliott Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2022,

Re: [Texascavers] A Martian Helictite, maybe?

That is one weird formation. Maybe melted sand from a small meteorite that hit the surface? Miles On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 1:10 PM Jon wrote: > Check out this formation found on Mars: > > >

Re: [Texascavers] Searching for cavers

David Persha is on Facebook. > On Feb 23, 2022, at 9:45 AM, Crash Kennedy wrote: > >  > Ben Kim has been living in Belize for years. He's on Facebook. His email is > ben@esotericvision.com. > > Christa is at chri...@riddington.net. > > Bill Larson lives in Cherokee, and is on

Re: [Texascavers] Searching for cavers

Ben Kim has been living in Belize for years. He's on Facebook. His email is ben@esotericvision.com. Christa is at chri...@riddington.net. Bill Larson lives in Cherokee, and is on Facebook. His number is 325-248-7191. Email is cherokeemeadma...@yahoo.com. Greyson is also on Facebook, and

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention - Call for Presenters

Those stairs. Ugh On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 4:54 PM Kris Pena wrote: > Bill, > > It will be at Cave Without A Name outside of Boerne. We have the full > campground reserved for the weekend as well as the event space inside the > cave to view presentations. > > Kris > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention - Call for Presenters

Bill, It will be at Cave Without A Name outside of Boerne. We have the full campground reserved for the weekend as well as the event space inside the cave to view presentations. Kris On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 4:52 PM Bill Bentley wrote: > Where is this happening? > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 2:05

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention - Call for Presenters

Where is this happening? On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 2:05 PM Kris Pena wrote: > The TSA Spring Convention is happening May 20-22 this year and I'm putting > out the call for presenters! > > Have something you'd love to tell your fellow cavers about? Or maybe a > workshop you've dreamed of giving?

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention - Call for Presenters

Hi Kris, You’ve got me down to give a presentation, right? It’ll be titled: “Proyecto Espeleologico Sistema Huautla (PESH) - the 2022 Expedition”. Bill Steele > On Feb 22, 2022, at 2:05 PM, Kris Pena wrote: > >  > The TSA Spring Convention is happening May 20-22 this year and I'm

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Re: [Pajarito Grotto] Fw: [Sandia Grotto]: Underground comparison video

That's a good point, George, although depth below the entrance is a practical measure for cavers because that is how far they actually travel, no matter how far below the surface they are. I disagree with Mary, though. I think they do intend to portray how far below ground the deep caves and

Re: [Texascavers] [Pajarito Grotto] Fw: [Sandia Grotto]: Underground comparison video

Actually, several of the caves (and probably some of the mines) are misrepresented. The bottoms of very few deep caves are as far below the surface directly above as their depth indicates, because caves don't go straight down and the surface also goes up and down. Many deep caves have entrances

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited

verns of Sonora up to the pit with a >> Brunton on a tripod and we consistently got less than 1% >> accuracy in short and long loops. I also got very good accuracy >> in some long surveys in Yucatan caves. >> >> James >> >> -- >

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited

ong time ago. > > James > -- > *From:* Texascavers on behalf of > Mark Minton > *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2022 5:17 PM > *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited > > If your accuracy w

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited

@gmail.com> mailto:speodes...@gmail.com>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 4:40 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited Thanks for leveling with us, Dwight. Doing the inclin

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited

I may be in error, and they may have been better than that. That was a very long time ago. James From: Texascavers on behalf of Mark Minton Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 5:17 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited

y good accuracy > in some long surveys in Yucatan caves. > > James > > -- > *From:* Texascavers on behalf of > speodes...@gmail.com > *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2022 4:40 PM > *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com > *Subject:* Re: [Texascave

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited

...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 4:40 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited Thanks for leveling with us, Dwight. Doing the inclinations was hard going handheld. All I ever owned were two Army Bruntons. Suuntos were a big change! And thanks

Re: [Texascavers] Brunton Revisited

Thanks for leveling with us, Dwight. Doing the inclinations was hard going handheld. All I ever owned were two Army Bruntons. Suuntos were a big change! And thanks to Carl for his good article. William R. (Bill) Elliott Sent from my iPhone On Feb 10, 2022, at 4:34 PM, Dwight Deal wrote: 

Re: [Texascavers] Volunteer Opportunities for Texas Hydro Geo Workshop- April 1-3

Geary: I had planned on volunteering for this, but it turns out that is a HCSNA karst project weekend. Having worked there for several years as a volunteer and encouraging Marvin to take on that additional responsibility a couple years ago, I feel I need to make that event my first priority.

Re: [Texascavers] Deep Cave claustrophobia video :

Do I remember, from long ago, an entrance similar to that in the Wimberley / Fischers Store area? It had a wider entrance, but still narrow. On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 2:58 PM Mimi Jasek wrote: > Or nephews or skinny newbies! Lol > > Mimi Jasek > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 5, 2022, at 2:43

Re: [Texascavers] Deep Cave claustrophobia video :

Or nephews or skinny newbies! Lol Mimi Jasek Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Amy Jasek wrote: > > And here I thought those kind of holes were reserved only for cavers’ > children! 浪 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 5, 2022, at 7:34 AM, jran...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>

Re: [Texascavers] Deep Cave claustrophobia video :

And here I thought those kind of holes were reserved only for cavers’ children! 浪 Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2022, at 7:34 AM, jran...@gmail.com wrote: > > Yep, it hit twitter pretty hard Tuesday and Wednesday of this week too. > > Damn crazy cavers! > > Joe Ranzau > 210.289.6839 >

Re: [Texascavers] Deep Cave claustrophobia video :

Yep, it hit twitter pretty hard Tuesday and Wednesday of this week too. Damn crazy cavers! Joe Ranzau 210.289.6839 > On Feb 5, 2022, at 7:30 AM, Jerry wrote: > >  > This video has gone somewhat viral on the internet : Ethan at Deep Cave. > >

Re: [Texascavers] Groundhog Day

This cracked me up! Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need" Rolling Stones > On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:35 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > > Every February 2 -- the halfway point between the winter

Re: [Texascavers] Suuntos

bunch of new >>> display cases and they are looking to put out items from our many >>> noteworthy members. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Geary Schindel >>> >>> From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Linda >>> Starr >&

Re: [Texascavers] Suuntos

>> NSS Museum. One for both you and Jim. We are getting a bunch of new display >> cases and they are looking to put out items from our many noteworthy members. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Geary Schindel >> >> From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Linda >> S

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

Of course  I still remember I believe when Amy was in 4th grade maybe? Her school took that grade on a bus field trip to Inner Space Caverns. Jim was going almost every weekend then remapping the cave, and Amy got her teacher to let Jim come give a talk on the cave, and demonstrate the use of

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

He did indeed. Thank him for me. Bill > On Jan 31, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote: > > And James Jasek provided a good bit of the carbide as I remember! > > Mimi Jasek > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 31, 2022, at 6:55 PM, Bill Steele wrote: >> >> Here in Texas we have an annual

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

> ; N E W L I S T Southwestern Cavers of the National > Speleological Society > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair > > External Email > Mimi, > You should donate your carbide and carbide lamps to some grotto that will use > them, maybe for

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

And James Jasek provided a good bit of the carbide as I remember! Mimi Jasek Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 31, 2022, at 6:55 PM, Bill Steele wrote: > > Here in Texas we have an annual auction benefitting the good work of the > Texas Cave Management Association (TCMA - see:

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

Here in Texas we have an annual auction benefitting the good work of the Texas Cave Management Association (TCMA - see: https://www.tcmacaves.org/). I was the first auctioneer about 16 years ago, and a good time is always had by all. For the auctions in 2018 and 2019 I offered a

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

> Geary Schindel > > > > *From:* Texascavers *On Behalf Of *Linda > Starr > *Sent:* Monday, January 31, 2022 3:51 PM > *To:* Mimi Jasek > *Cc:* Texascavers ; John Lyles < > j...@losalamos.com>; N E W L I S T Southwestern Cavers of the National > Speleological Socie

Re: [Texascavers] Suuntos

Or to the Texas Speleological Survey! Mobile email from my iPhone > On Jan 31, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Linda Starr wrote: > > You should donate your carbide and carbide lamps to some grotto that > will use them, maybe for a carbide-specific grotto trip, as the Sandia Grotto > may be planning.

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

Mimi, You should donate your carbide and carbide lamps to some grotto that will use them, maybe for a carbide-specific grotto trip, as the Sandia Grotto may be planning. Just a suggestion. Take it or leave it and Take care, Linda Starr On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 7:50 PM Mimi Jasek wrote: > I’m

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

Hey Pete, That is the way Jim surveyed, though, and I surveyed with him. Also back-sighting same way etc. He was a stickler for good closures, and when I met him I was working as a draftsman and mathematician for a surveying company. I would draw up land surveys from field notes with a

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

Hi Mimi! The Brunton is more accurate if you tripod-mount it and use the shadow method. But then you need to add instrument height and light height. People are often too lazy to do that, however. - Pete > On Jan 30, 2022, at 7:50 PM, Mimi Jasek wrote: > > I’m with you Pete. Jim never went

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

I’m with you Pete. Jim never went to Suunto - always Brunton. But then he did not do much wet cave surveying, nor deep vertical stuff. Although he will never go caving again, we still have lots of carbide lamps and some carbide, along with our LED lights. I still love that smell! Lol Mimi

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

Brunton’s also work well, but there is hardly anyone left that knows how to use one. Years ago 5 of us were surveying a mile in a wet suit stream passage in Colossal Cave, Ky. Roger Brucker and Alan Hill went to the “end” to survey back, Art & Peg Palmer and myself started surveying “in”. We

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair

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