Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2014 05:37:04 UTC+1 schrieb Daniel Caleb:
I should probably explain myself further.
Maybe if you have an example available somewhere for us to look at?
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Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2014 05:37:04 UTC+1 schrieb Daniel Caleb:
It's not a large list of results. However, I realized the tags that are
shown are the top level of the tag hierarchy. I thought the tag[] filter
would recurse through the tag structure.
I should probably explain myself
Hi Rich,
TiddlyWiki is a Master App Builder that could create 1000's of apps from
Recipe TW app to Math Note Research TW apps.
What would you call it to make it 'understandable' to new people?
That is a good question.
I think making the answer as prosaic as it is is actually a good
Hi Daniel,
Thanks for that...
One way is to make the wiki dir owned by the webserver user, and your
username group. Then it can be user and group readable and writable, which
just allows the web server and you.
I would start with the assumption that the average TiddlyWiki being hosted
Great work, Jim!
2. Per the TOC, I am not looking for a fancy one that expands and contracts
- for now I am working on the idea that static remains just that, and
doesn't have any or much of the TW Javascript magic in it.
I think you should definitely render the entire sublists, even if
What I would also find interesting is to load some tiddlers.json into each
static file (the same for all) ...with tiddler meta-data, or even the body
if anyone thinks it worthy, even the required helper functions to access
the beast, and then use some jquery magick to do stuff with it, e.g...
I believe there have yet to be adjustments to cater for at least those
topbars on small screens.
I wanted to fiddle with a more responsivee design on tb5 as well.
When I get to it, I shall reply to you here, as well.
Best wishes, Tobias.
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Is there an update for TW 5 for this [1]
ALex
[1] http://wordcountmacro.tiddlyspot.com/
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Hi Alex,
For me this works (tested at http://tiddlywiki.com/):
!Test
: {{About}}
If you like blockquotes, you can use the following:
!Test
{{About}}
Cheers,
Ton
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:23:39 AM UTC+1, Alex H wrote:
Hey guys,
I'm super new to TiddlyWiki5 (2 days) and I've got
In a recent discussion
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1180 Jeremy wrote:
At the moment only links are draggable. I want to introduce a $draggable
widget that could be used to make anything draggable.
:-)
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:41:51 AM UTC+1, RichShumaker wrote:
Hi Dave
But since I mentioned creating tiddlers with the html or [img[ text, then
can't I still do both of these things?
I'm not quite sure what you mean. We're talking about the differences
between the different ways of displaying images. What is that you're
thinking you can't do?
That is,
Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2014 11:15:12 UTC+1 schrieb AlexHough:
Is there an update for TW 5 for this [1]
ALex
[1] http://wordcountmacro.tiddlyspot.com/
Is this sufficient?
/*\
title: $:/macros/skeeve/wordcount.js
type: application/javascript
module-type: macro
wordcount text
Very interesting. Thanks a lot!
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Hey Ton,
h sorry - I messed up my question: I played with this yesterday night
and posted my question in the morning and totally forgot something:
The indent did work, the problem was the formatting of the original tiddler
was lost.
I now narrowed the problem down to the blockquotes.
Dear Stephan
I've cut and pasted the text into a tiddler, given it the title
$:/macros/skeeve/wordcount.js and set the type to application/javascript
I have also added a field with module-type: macro
I've tried this on TW.com the result is that nothing appears to happen. I
bet I've overlooked
You overlooked: Save and Reload.
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Hi Alex,
Instead of:
: {{foo}}
Use:
: $transclude tiddler=foo mode=block/
Cheers,
Ton
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 12:37:10 PM UTC+1, Alex H wrote:
Hey Ton,
h sorry - I messed up my question: I played with this yesterday night
and posted my question in the morning and totally
Thanks for that. Nice to know that there are (somewhat difficult to
understand) workarounds. I'd love to see core support for iterating
messages, though. It seems rather essential to making buttons do more
than a one-at-a-time action.
Best wishes, Tobias.
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Awesome, that did it!!!
Thanks a lot Ton!
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Hi Tobias
I'd love to see core support for iterating messages, though. It seems
rather essential to making buttons do more than a one-at-a-time action.
You'll recall that the plan is to allow action widgets to be wrapped in the
list widget which will resolve this problem:
$button
$list
You'll recall that the plan is to allow action widgets to be wrapped in
the list widget which will resolve this problem:
$button
$list filter=[tag[Something]]
$action-sendmessage $message=tm-delete-tiddler
$param=currentTiddler/
/$list
Delete all tiddlers tagged Something
/$button
Hi Jed,
The problem is that when you import them the tiddlers inside the plugin
aren't accessible in the normal way. The dashboard builds the its table of
contents as things tagged 'Dashboard', but unlike the filters where I can
add 'plugintiddlers[]' to include the tiddlers inside
Dear Stephen
I have!
Easy to overlook when everything seems to change right away in TW5.
Many thanks - it works fine now
Ideally the word count would be displayed in edit mode...
Alex
On 10 December 2014 at 11:47, Stephan Hradek stephan.hra...@gmail.com
wrote:
You overlooked: Save and
try here
http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#VisualEditor
What I get on chrome / win 8.1 is no editor but that dreaded javascript
error box.
Best wishes, Tobias.
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What I get on chrome / win 8.1 is no editor but that dreaded javascript
error box.
At a second attempt, I get this...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UkH8UsnwlGI/VIg_6ty0IOI/BsI/_lJtJkjpG50/s1600/2nd.gif
Best wishes, Tobias.
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Hi BJ,
http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#VisualEditor
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fbjtools.tiddlyspot.com%2F%23VisualEditorsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGdcWi59ic6OZP7Li3dtP6AzgOMag
What's also unfortunate is that there seems to be no macro support
whatsoever. So, it's an either TiddlyWiki
I wanted to use this thread to explore ways of using TiddlyWiki as a
website, i.e. a website without editing and authoring controls, allowing
visitors to focus on content and presentation.
Albeit worthy of consideration and comparison, this thread is *not* about
using a static site — which
Hi Tobias,
Did you see my rough workaround [1]?
Cheers,
Ton
[1] http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:52:01 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
I wanted to use this thread to explore ways of using TiddlyWiki as a
website, i.e. a website without editing and
Mhhh, now the readonly theme seems to work.
Is it possible that, to import any theme, you first need to switch to it?
Or, can on only use drag and drop from the *Plugins* tab in the
*ControlPanel* but not from *Appearance / Theme*?
One thing that is a bit awkward is that when you switch to
Hi Ton,
http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/
Nope, haven't yet (consciously) looked at it, will do reference yours...
thanks.
Best wishes, Tobias.
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Ahh, I struggled with this a few days ago as well. Is it possible to do
this with a tag instead of a tiddler?
And also, is it possible to show the title as well as the contents of the
contained tiddlers?
On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 12:07:47 UTC, Ton Gerner wrote:
Hi Alex,
Instead of:
:
Hi Jed,
Aside from the plugins on the main site I don't think that it would be
easy to maintain a list like that. http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Plugins is
probably your best bet unless you want to go find plugins and maintain a
dedicated list.
The thing is, it really has to be something
Hi All,
Many thanks for your advice. Having been on annual leave for the past few
days, I will now take a look at your suggestions.
I like the idea of storing them in the ./images/ folder.
I would also like to learn about the macros in TiddlyWiki and so will also
try the method of defining a
I don't see a error with chrome on linux. - my guess is that there is some
type of temporal problem (and that the ckeditor lib is throwing an error)-
when the lib is called for the first time it loads a number of source files
that are then cached - a solution evades me at present.
BJ
On
what do you mean by macro support
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 6:46:38 AM UTC-6, Tobias Beer wrote:
Hi BJ,
http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#VisualEditor
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fbjtools.tiddlyspot.com%2F%23VisualEditorsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGdcWi59ic6OZP7Li3dtP6AzgOMag
Yes, the tab would be immediately doable (as displayed here
http://mockup-sidebar-search.tiddlyspot.com/#GettingStarted, by Tobias
apropos another discussion
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1066#issuecomment-65936620).
But I think that most of these things (and what I'm about
Thank you Stephen! More than disillusioning, this is extremely valuable for
us. Curious to see what happens with the others. Try to have them not talk
among themselves about their experiences so to not color eachoters.
It's ironic but when it comes to being a *new* TW user they know more than
Maybe you're not familiar with taggly-tagging for TWc
http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging, but what it does is, first and
foremost render a tagging tree, which is what *taggly* for tw5 is trying to
emulate on a very basic level...
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Taggly%20Tagging%20For%20TW5
Hi Jed,
$set name=regExp value='regexp:tags[action]'
Why use regexp at all? You can just check for the existence of a tag, or is
it that you have a number of action tags whose name starts with *action*,
like *action_foo*? If yes, why not go about it differently and have a
tiddler called
Thinking about swarms more, I am pondering if the newly introduced export
machanism may actually provide the groundworks to render a link from the
advanced search / filters tab which allows you to grab all matches at ones
and drag them over to another TiddlyWiki, thus forming ad-hoc swarms, not
Hi Alex,
Ideally the word count would be displayed in edit mode...
I believe, equivalent to...
Conditional ViewTemplate Section @ tb5
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Conditional%20ViewTemplate%20Section
...you can make a custom edit-template section to display your word-count
at the bottom.
Is it possible to make a Tiddler that is[[Admin Function Set to On]] for
things you need to save and edit?
Then you password protect the [[Admin Function Set to On]] Tiddler.
Then when you are done with updates you just reload and it goes back to
read only default.
Rich Shumaker
On Wednesday,
Unless I am missing something, and I think this only is a problem with the
tabbed toc, the tabbed toc macro can only allows you to specify a tag that
defines the to level of your toc hierarchy, but just using that one tag doesn't
list tiddlers in plugins.
toc-tabbed-internal-nav
I like it, $draggable.
I am still learning and as such I am not sure how to do this idea yet.
I am looking at adding a simple Link to Tiddler - Self and putting it in
the Info Bar.
Then when I hit the Info button a link to the TW will be in the list and I
can drag and drop it outside that TW.
Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2014 13:40:39 UTC+1 schrieb AlexHough:
Ideally the word count would be displayed in edit mode...
As far as I understood the original one, the macro is put into the edit
template.
Try that.
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Hi Alex Ton,
use:
: $transclude tiddler=foo mode=block/
You can make that easier on you by creating a global macro tagged
*$:/tags/Macro* perhaps called *$:/.ah/macros/transclude-block*
containing...
\define get(tiddler,field:text)
$transclude tiddler=$tiddler$ field=$field$ mode=block/
I would also like to learn about the macros in TiddlyWiki and so will also
try the method of defining a global folder path for external images.
I am not sure how to setup macros but will give it ago and see what I can
learn.
Or, you can simply use...
what do you mean by macro support
I mean being able to use some wiki-syntax, above all macros, within the
x-htmlp representation, e.g. *version* as the most simple example.
Best wishes, Tobias.
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Hi Rich,
Is it possible to make a Tiddler that is[[Admin Function Set to On]] for
things you need to save and edit?
Then you password protect the [[Admin Function Set to On]] Tiddler.
Then when you are done with updates you just reload and it goes back to
read only default.
Yes, it is.
The regexp was there because the original question was looking for tiddlers
that had tags with the prefix Action, that wasn't part of my problem. My
problem, and I think the problem in the original question is that while I
can generate a list of a tags descendants to an arbitrary depth I can't
Unless I am missing something, and I think this only is a problem with the
tabbed toc, the tabbed toc macro can only allows you to specify a tag that
defines the to level of your toc hierarchy, but just using that one tag
doesn't list tiddlers in plugins.
toc-tabbed-internal-nav
You don't use the ToC, because the links it creates look really ugly...
toc-tabbed-internal-nav tag:HelloThere]]
+[all[tiddlers+shadows]prefix[$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/ selectedTiddler:
$:/temp/toc/test-foo unselectedText:Select a topic in the table of
contents. Click the arrow to expand a
On Monday, December 8, 2014 11:32:36 AM UTC, Mat wrote:
Tiddlers on the loose, swarming around everywhere.
This is pretty much exactly the metaphor that I've been hoping the
TiddlyWeb API I would enable.
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I am looking at adding a simple Link to Tiddler - Self and putting it in
the Info Bar.
Then when I hit the Info button a link to the TW will be in the list and I
can drag and drop it outside that TW.
You can create a...
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Conditional%20ViewTemplate%20Section
First of all, thank you for all the responses... it is much appreciated.
@Stephan: I'll include a visual of what I'm talking about:
Top-level Parent tag: ServDocs
/ \
/ \
2nd level tags: Postfix | Apache
Hi Daniel,
@Tobias: I am looking at taggly-tagging now... I think it may do what I
want, it is also possible that some of it is over my head. But, I'll get
back to you on that. So, in the process of trying to figure out a solution
I've rearranged these tags a couple different ways. If I
As Always Thank you very much Tobias.
Now I need to spend the next week or two implementing all the things you
have helped me with.
I find that my 'Experimental TW' is missing things and I am learning a lot
as I find what it is missing.
Rich Shumaker
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:17:36 AM
So Tobias you use a very useful tool that I can't find and I have a feeling
it is part of a plug in or macro I don't have
You will list the code this way
source $:/.tb/ui/ViewTemplate/tiddler-link
And that pulls back the code and puts it in a code block.
Unfortunately I don't have source
Hi Rich,
You will list the code this way
source $:/.tb/ui/ViewTemplate/tiddler-link
It is one of the global helper macros I defined in *tb5*, which you can
find here...
$:/.tb/macros/source @tb5
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2F.tb%2Fmacros%2Fsource
You can find the entire list
the tabbed toc macro can only allows you to specify a tag that defines
the to level of your toc hierarchy, but just using that one tag doesn't
list tiddlers in plugins
I've fixed the TOC macros for 5.1.6 such that they will now pick up both
shadow and ordinary tiddlers:
Hi Tobias,
wow that's cool - thanks a lot!
As I said it's only my second day with tiddlywiki, but I've just been
reading a bit about macros and filters and I gotta say I'm very exited!
So many great possibilities...
Should my 10 year quest of finding an organization system has come to an
end?
My previous post
I was discussing a Tiddler that was actually a macro / view template that
turned on and turned off your Administration Stuff
That Tiddler was encrypted with a password to keep people from getting to
the Administration Stuff
I like the idea of Password protecting the control
Hi Rich,
...that displays that link at the bottom of a tiddler
One trick that we may have overlooked, though, is that the currently viewed
tiddler is displayed in the *Open* tab in the sidebar.
Best wishes, Tobias.
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Should my 10 year quest of finding an organization system has come to an
end? Well, it's a bit to early to say - but I've got a very good feeling
with this one ;-)
So, here's a welcome to you, Alex. :)
Chances are, after taking that initial steep bit of learning curve,
things will be a
Hey Rich,
Instead of #:safe you would put #:admin
That's a very neat idea. Perhaps it is even possible right now to run
TiddlyWiki with a given template set on startup. Probably not, because
saving would probably set it for everyone... unless that #:admin mode would
prevent that admin
Haha, thanks :-)
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Got it and Got it, Thanks.
I tried to a basic search on your site and couldn't find it, Customization
is not in the list when you search for 'Source'
It does show 'Source' under Advanced Search (System) and I will need to
remember that for next time when I am looking for something.
Oh and
Hi Rich
If you are able to download the TW, you could use the import button and
then select to only import the tiddlers you want.
Birthe
You can import many Tiddlers at once but you need to drag and drop them
one at a time, that is why I like your idea of a swarm, also swarms are
good
Thanks Birthe.
I keep forgetting about grabbing the whole TW and just unchecking stuff on
import.
My basic concept here is similar to my post about Tweeting or FB Liking but
on a TW to TW level.
An easy share method of 1 tiddler at a time from one TW to another TW.
I am looking at ways to
Tobias, is that including d3? (that is already a TW plugin...)
Op dinsdag 9 december 2014 11:18:15 UTC+1 schreef Tobias Beer:
Wow, 500k for the minified version, that's perhaps a big uff.
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I think 96k without?
Op woensdag 10 december 2014 20:23:02 UTC+1 schreef Rolograaf:
Tobias, is that including d3? (that is already a TW plugin...)
Op dinsdag 9 december 2014 11:18:15 UTC+1 schreef Tobias Beer:
Wow, 500k for the minified version, that's perhaps a big uff.
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I agree that we need a better implementation of read-only mode. I've
created a ticket here:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1213
Best wishes
Jeremy
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Rich,
Instead of #:safe you would put #:admin
Oh, ok, so the heavyweight is d3... I guess we'd be well advised to install
that alongside plugins as a separate global library that can be used by
other libraries as well.
What about some official *$:/library/foo* namespace? I think that may be
advisable to be reserved for these kinds of
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:25:03 AM UTC+1, Chris Dent wrote:
On Monday, December 8, 2014 11:32:36 AM UTC, Mat wrote:
Tiddlers on the loose, swarming around everywhere.
This is pretty much exactly the metaphor that I've been hoping the
TiddlyWeb API I would enable.
@Chris
So here is a weird question about images(could apply to other data as well).
I have been trying to link images in my TW from a folder.
If I drag and drop the images they will be copied over(embedded) and I
understand why Tobias says not for embedding them.(see my post about
breaking TW or better
Thanks Jeremy and as always Thanks Tobias.
Most PHP/MySQL type software I use has a separate 'Admin' log in address.
I tried not to exclude options as sometimes reversing the idea will work
better in this case #:viewonly is probably silly talk.
I need to read up on TW dev to answer this myself
Hilarious I just cracked myself up.
Combining the help Tobias gave me earlier with TW Links on every Tiddler.
I thought that you could have a Word Count in the Corner of every Tiddler
corner.
Combine that with Jeremy's discussion of using TW to send Tweets you would
know if you were over your
Hi Mat
I admire your ability to turn around mockups, they work really well and
communicate very clearly.
I've actually also thought about having a help mode, I think it could
work well, but obviously not something I want to do during the moratorium.
I'm keen to get some reworking of
Hi Tobias
The current D3 plugin for TiddlyWiki ($:/plugins/tiddlywiki/d3), actually
weighs in at 175KB when saved in JSON format. Perhaps this is a more recent
version?
Best wishes
Jeremy
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh, ok, so the heavyweight is
The extension is implemented as a widget, you can call it like any other
widget eg :
$edit-html tiddler=test field=text/
types are mapped to 'edit widgets' by the edit widget (the edit widget
re-writes the widget tree)
$edit
using configurations tiddlers, eg
Hi Rich,
Is there a JavaScript User Permissions Module that is small and good and
could be added to TW?
I know this beyond the scope of this post but this concept goes into a
Content Management System.
Personally I would say, yes, this is beyond the scope of what I was aiming
at.
Hi Rich,
So how could I 'import' 'drag and drop' or 'grab' the images and bring
them into my TW from the path I just created?(Link not Embed)
Along those lines can you tag things on an 'import'?
You can simply display them within tiddlers, or if you want each image to
be a tiddler, you
Hi Jeremy,
I do wonder whether these blow-by-blow instructions are appropriate in
empty.html. The alternative would be to have a getting started edition
(perhaps the same as the introduction edition) that is specially geared
to taking the user step-by-step through the installation and
Here is a modification to the RevealWidget that allows for other methods of
hiding the reveal section, including Javascript in static HTML. It should
be noted that EVERY reveal on the page will reveal. A little CSS will fix
that. This is a first step toward allowing tabs to work. If the core devs
I wanted to let you know that I tried to drag and drop one of your
'tiddlers' and it just copied across the URL to TW.
So that works well as it is functioning more like a static site and not a
TW based Site.
I really like it.
Rich Shumaker
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Thanks Jeremy and Tobias.
I should say Damn your Sanity Tobias, #heheh.
If it wasn't for reinventing wheels I wouldn't have any wheels at all,
#heheh.
Jeremy that trick worked quite well till I got to the hand coding things to
make them display properly.
I dumped the data into a spreadsheet but
d'oh!!!
Forgot we can all play in the pond at the same time.
Thanks for the explanation Tobias.
Rich Shumaker
On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:34:00 PM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
Hi Rich,
Is there a JavaScript User Permissions Module that is small and good and
could be added to TW?
I
This looks pretty interesting, working on a concept right now. Should the
entries be posted here too for reference?
On Friday, 5 December 2014 00:56:00 UTC, Mat wrote:
Fellow tiddlywikians,
Win $100 contributed, in your name, to the guidebook Inside TiddlyWiki -
the Missing Manual
How do I simply Indent something the way you do typically with the TAB key.
I am not defining things just simply trying to indent and the TAB key
obviously has other functions.
So if I am writing something
I then can put something in without any header stuff or other
formatting.
The documentation explains how to use a stylesheet to change the body font
and the theme tweaks allow you to change its size. How do you change the
title display font size ?
Grateful for any advice
Howard
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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HVauCVR23zI/VIkdwxPJlJI/H_Y/JTQzLttEyNs/s1600/DPFR_tiddlywikiposter_Tiddler.jpg
Ok, so here is my entry, what do you guys think?
http://www.duarteramos.pt/media/share/DPFR_tiddlywikiposter_Tiddler.jpg
Ok, so here is my entry, what do you guys think?
The text is generic, may be adjusted to whatever you want later, its was
designed in Inkscape so the original is a full vector artwork available in
SVG:
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Hello all,
@Mat...great stuff!...I find that TutWiki (tutorial wiki) mock layout
pretty nifty.
I like how the Quickstart tiddler lights up the relevant info in the help
tab on the sidebar.
Definitely will grab my attention as a regular user.
Just my two cents worth.
Best regards to all,
Julio
Hi Everybody,
I recently came across TiddlyWiki and love the simplicity and power it
provides. It is exactly the personal notebook that I have been looking for.
I currently use TiddlyWiki to organize my project discussions and other
project information. In a top-level tiddler, I list my
Hi Arlen,
Here is a modification to the RevealWidget that allows for other methods
of hiding the reveal section, including Javascript in static HTML.
I take it, such a forceRender variable would be a global variable set
when rendering static pages, correct?
I would not even specifically
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