Sorry about the very late reply. I have just tested it and i never
noticed it before. I have embedded artwork and the device does pause
before refreshign the artwork on change of album for about 2
secondsbut it always plays fine (the track elapsed time is always
out by 2 seconds thought). I
badboygolf16v;577639 Wrote:
My experience with TinySBS has been generally very positive. I use a
powered Samsung Story 1.5TB drive with 12,000 FLACs.
Apart from a few issues with my library's Album Art preventing a scan I
haven't had any problems. I've set the Touch up to use beta releases
spamtom;577785 Wrote:
I have never had the problem with tinysc pausing to load artwork (i have
9000 flac files), does this only happen when you first start playing or
for each song. Is your artwork embedded?
Happens on change of album. All of my FLACs have embedded artwork, I
also have
I've been using my appliance for about a year now and can highly
recommend it. It's quiet, runs all the time, and feeds my transporter
perfectly. I'd like to try a touch fed directly by a hard drive, but
this setup would still require connecting the HD to a computer to rip
new CD's. I get
I'd equate the Touch to buying a new moped finding the engine doesn't
work properly. Never mind, there's always the pedals... [image:
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I found the TinySC acceptable and, for the most part, worked quite well.
That said, I switched to a dedicated server (a Mac Mini) as I did not
like the re-buffering that I would get on the 1st song in a random mix
(and as a headless server, it has other uses, such as a print server and
backup
JJZolx;576770 Wrote:
No. Then someone decided to add a USB port and SD card slot? It didn't
happen that way. It was designed to run a server from the minute that
it was conceived. Whether or not it was a good idea is a topic for a
different discussion.
The usb/sd card could have been
The Touch is a good idea badly executed - umm sounds like a typical Slim
Devices product. Maybe in a year or two or three they will have
something that does what they appear to be claiming this does now. What
is the big deal? CPU power is dirt cheap, as is memory.
If the Slim Devices folks
regalma1;576963 Wrote:
The Touch is a good idea badly executed
I respectively have to beg to differ. I have three that work perfectly
with over 60k of files. Admittedly, I do use SbS on a server (not
tinySbS). However, my brother uses a TOUCH connected via WIFI,
tinySbS with an attached USB
regalma1;576963 Wrote:
Here is a good question does anyone make a small (12), generic and
very quiet laptop that runs Windows?
12 screen? There are a few netbooks available with 12.1 screens, but
most will have 10.1 screens. You'll want a netbook with the latest
generation of Atom N450
garym;576965 Wrote:
...I admit that people have real issues, but this idea that the TOUCH is
junk is too over the top to be taken seriously.
+1 IT IS NOT JUNK.
With SBS, it is a superb quality NMP that performs beautifully.
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regalma1;576963 Wrote:
The Touch is a good idea badly executed - umm sounds like a typical Slim
Devices product.
Am I correct in inferring from 'your earlier post'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=576507#post576507) that
you haven't actually used a Touch? Iffy or exotic
Actually the weird thing is that I was very happy with the squeezebox
classic.
And I do think that the Touch is better than the classic in everything
the classic does, and a few other things more.
The bad point is that the internal server is expected to work well, and
that it usually doesn't, at
JJZolx;576613 Wrote:
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did they purposely design the
hardware to run only a limited version of the server, or was the server
scaled back due to the hardware limitations? I think it was mostly the
latter - TinySbS was made tiny because they realized
jean2;576604 Wrote:
Is it an educated guess, or do you know something we don't ? You are
worrying me, as I hope Moore's law will continue to impact the SB range
of products...
Jean
Its not that I don't think there will ever be a new model, but I don't
think there is going to be one right
On 09/14/2010 10:38 PM, JJZolx wrote:
pfarrell;576608 Wrote:
But, the Touch built in server was called TinySBS for a long time, for
a reason. Its limited. It will always be limited.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did they purposely design
the hardware to run only a limited
JohnSwenson;576697 Wrote:
.. I think Logitech wants to get as much revenue out of the Touch as
they can before spending more development money.
This is true for every product and every company. The challenge is
always to figure out what approach works best for a particular product,
frequent
JohnSwenson;576760 Wrote:
Then marketing heard about it...
In other words, another good example of no good deed goes
unpunished
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regalma1;576724 Wrote:
Here is what I want. A box with enough power to act as a true
controller. It can have a USB port for a HD or I can use a NAS. There
are advantages to both. Or even better a USB drive that can be updated
from my PC over the ethernet. One which is fully powered down
JohnSwenson;576760 Wrote:
I can pretty much guarantee the Touch was not designed as a server, it
was designed as the next generation network player. When they got some
early prototypes up and running they realized it was only using half
the CPU and memory for the player software. Someone
I've been using the Touch for a few monthes now.
At the beginning, I used TinySBS with an external usb 500GB usb powered
(about 150 GB of flac files).
I was somewhat happy, but I finally gave up using internal server.
The main reason is that rescanning happens far too often, and is
unnacceptably
nicolas75;576777 Wrote:
I suspect the support of NTFS is not good in the Touch.
It was added lately, because some people, including me, said that it
was not acceptable to release a product which doesn't support NTFS
nowadays (I still think this is true).
But I fear that the way the Touch
Phil Leigh;576781 Wrote:
No, all of this is completely untrue. The touch handles the disk using
standard linux methods. It does nothing that any linux-based computer
or NAS doesn't do.
Well, I can use my usb disk on whatever PC without any problem.
But when I plug it to the Touch, it makes
You can also add that I work with all kind of Desktops, Laptops,
Nettops, etc ...
I usually never have any problem with any kind of NTFS external disks.
But the Touch is obviously well known to work with some disks, but not
with some others, and not only a few of them ...
My disk is a funny
nicolas75;576804 Wrote:
You can also add that I work with all kind of Desktops, Laptops,
Nettops, etc ...
I usually never have any problem with any kind of NTFS external disks.
But the Touch is obviously well known to work with some disks, but not
with some others, and not only a few of
I had visions of a Touch with a USB drive and using an iPad for a
remote. Mostly instant on, no Windows boot up and crash issues, sweet
controller. Well it looks like the Slim boys did it again. Great idea,
lousy implementation and no what we call here QV or quality
verification, that is a group
I've not had any major problems using TinySBS on the Touch. I've had a
1.5TB samsung USB drive attached to the touch with about 14K tracks
(200GB) mostly flac and mp3. The USB drive has lots of other files as
well including hundreds of photos - I've been using it for backups
until I get another
The discovering files part is the quick part, its just reading the
directories and comparing the filenames and timestamps with its own
database. (if you do a rescan it doesn't have its own database yet!)
THEN it goes in and actually reads the files that it thinks are new
(everything with a
tv69;575589 Wrote:
If the Touch as it is now does not have enough power to handle large TB
external hard drives with thousands of FLACs, can adding more memory
and/or implementing a more powerful processor be the solution? Can
this be expected by any chance?
TV
Sure, its called a
JohnSwenson;576600 Wrote:
and don't hold your breath for a new model.
John S.
Is it an educated guess, or do you know something we don't ? You are
worrying me, as I hope Moore's law will continue to impact the SB range
of products...
Jean
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On 09/14/2010 09:04 PM, jean2 wrote:
JohnSwenson;576600 Wrote:
and don't hold your breath for a new model.
Is it an educated guess, or do you know something we don't ? You are
worrying me, as I hope Moore's law will continue to impact the SB range
of products...
You are quoting John out
pfarrell;576608 Wrote:
There will be better/faster/cheaper Touch models.
But, the Touch built in server was called TinySBS for a long time, for
a reason. Its limited. It will always be limited.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did they purposely design
the hardware to run
yup
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mrkd29;575350 Wrote:
Update:
Still steaming a bit that the internal TinySBS server wouldn't work as
advertised... That was the main reason I bought the Touch. Oh well...at
least I can use the system now.
I think tinySBS is the worst idea they ever had. If you read through
several forums
juzi;575414 Wrote:
I think tinySBS is the worst idea they ever had.
You haven't tried the Controller then?
MC
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ModelCitizen;575426 Wrote:
You haven't tried the Controller then?
MC
I have no issues with the controller. While I find the iphone + iPeng
makes for a better controller that is really not the fault of the
software but more with the hardware.
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ModelCitizen;575426 Wrote:
You haven't tried the Controller then?
I use a Controller with my Touch and a SB3 and am pretty happy with it.
(I sold the Duet's receiver.)
I'd give the Controller about a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10. It works well
the vast majority of the time, but occasionally just
Hi Mark, glad youre sticking it out with the SB Touch. I felt I had to
chime in on some of the issues brought up in this thread. Like you, I
too stressed out at first try setting up a standalone Touch, but I
eventually got it working. I just ordered my second SB Radio yesterday
(this time in
I understand people who just want a single player not wanting to deal
with a separate server. What I do not understand is people who want
multiple devices sharing the same library and not wanting a dedicated
music server. When you start getting 100s of gigs of music, what is
your backup plan
If the Touch as it is now does not have enough power to handle large TB
external hard drives with thousands of FLACs, can adding more memory
and/or implementing a more powerful processor be the solution? Can
this be expected by any chance?
TV
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Update:
I gave up trying to get the internal Touch server to work. I had no
energy to continue trying to troubleshoot after the many failed
attempts. I ended up installing squeezebox server on my downstairs PC
along with the music hard drive. That computer is hard wired to my
wireless router.
Boy do I know that feeling... Very disappointed!
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mrkd29;575350 Wrote:
Update:
I gave up trying to get the internal Touch server to work. I had no
energy to continue trying to troubleshoot after the many failed
attempts. I ended up installing squeezebox server on my downstairs PC
along with the music hard drive. That computer is hard
I finally decided to register here so I can post my nightmare problems
with the Touch. I've been lurking for a few weeks reading through other
peoples problems with the SB Touch and external hard drives hoping a
solution would come up that works for me... Well, it hasn't happened
and I'm about
Sorry to hear of your continuing problems. I can say I don't think it is
the size of your library. I set a touch up for my brother and he has
about 60,000 mp3 files in an attached USB drive and it has worked from
day one as expected. I can't speak whether it would deal with 40,000
FLAC files ok
Thank you for your response Gary. I do appreciate the advice and hope I
don't come across as just a complainer. I truly want this thing to
work. I will post this on the other Logitech forum that you recommended
as well.
I'll try connecting the HD to my laptop and run it through the PC
server
Yep, just do this as a bit of a test. Good luck.
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Hi Mark. A bunch of questions since your post was long with very little
actual information to help troubleshoot. On a side note, 160GB of music
is not a large library. The smallest USB drive I use with my Touch is my
320GB only containing my Favorites. I routinely use 1TB USB drives with
the
Thanks for the help! Answers to your questions below:
The first most important question is, was TinySC completely finished
scanning the USB drive before you started using the Touch? Did you go
to SettingsAdvancedSqueezebox Server to see what the scanning was
doing (that it was finished)?
Yes,
I do have a PC downstairs that I could run a dedicated server on but
it's not hard wired to ethernet. It's wireless. Do you think that will
be a problem?
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I can move my router downstairs so that the PC is hard wired. The Touch
would then be wireless (upstairs). Or I can leave as is (Touch
currently hardwired-PC downstairs wireless). Is there a preferred way
of doing it?
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I have a Touch and use it with an external server. It is a very solid
performer in this capacity and I'm quite pleased with it.
However, in perhaps a half-dozen tries, I've never been successful in
getting the built-in SBS to run well with an external drive with my
full collection. (48,000 songs
mrkd29;574782 Wrote:
I can move my router downstairs so that the PC is hard wired. The Touch
would then be wireless (upstairs). Or I can leave as is (Touch
currently hardwired-PC downstairs wireless). Is there a preferred way
of doing it?
I have to believe it would be better to have your
Hello again Mark.
Using the USB Stick as I said splits the problem in half. Something
that I feel needs done (its the engineer in me, hate working on a
problem that is actually not the problem because nobody took the time
to rule out half of what could be causing the problem). We need to
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