Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-11-03 Thread spamtom
Sorry about the very late reply. I have just tested it and i never noticed it before. I have embedded artwork and the device does pause before refreshign the artwork on change of album for about 2 secondsbut it always plays fine (the track elapsed time is always out by 2 seconds thought). I

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-20 Thread spamtom
badboygolf16v;577639 Wrote: My experience with TinySBS has been generally very positive. I use a powered Samsung Story 1.5TB drive with 12,000 FLACs. Apart from a few issues with my library's Album Art preventing a scan I haven't had any problems. I've set the Touch up to use beta releases

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-20 Thread badboygolf16v
spamtom;577785 Wrote: I have never had the problem with tinysc pausing to load artwork (i have 9000 flac files), does this only happen when you first start playing or for each song. Is your artwork embedded? Happens on change of album. All of my FLACs have embedded artwork, I also have

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-19 Thread Markhh2
I've been using my appliance for about a year now and can highly recommend it. It's quiet, runs all the time, and feeds my transporter perfectly. I'd like to try a touch fed directly by a hard drive, but this setup would still require connecting the HD to a computer to rip new CD's. I get

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-17 Thread rbz5416
I'd equate the Touch to buying a new moped finding the engine doesn't work properly. Never mind, there's always the pedals... [image: http://forums.slimdevices.com/images/icons/icon10.gif] -- rbz5416 rbz5416's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-16 Thread Tony T
I found the TinySC acceptable and, for the most part, worked quite well. That said, I switched to a dedicated server (a Mac Mini) as I did not like the re-buffering that I would get on the 1st song in a random mix (and as a headless server, it has other uses, such as a print server and backup

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-16 Thread m1abrams
JJZolx;576770 Wrote: No. Then someone decided to add a USB port and SD card slot? It didn't happen that way. It was designed to run a server from the minute that it was conceived. Whether or not it was a good idea is a topic for a different discussion. The usb/sd card could have been

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-16 Thread regalma1
The Touch is a good idea badly executed - umm sounds like a typical Slim Devices product. Maybe in a year or two or three they will have something that does what they appear to be claiming this does now. What is the big deal? CPU power is dirt cheap, as is memory. If the Slim Devices folks

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-16 Thread garym
regalma1;576963 Wrote: The Touch is a good idea badly executed I respectively have to beg to differ. I have three that work perfectly with over 60k of files. Admittedly, I do use SbS on a server (not tinySbS). However, my brother uses a TOUCH connected via WIFI, tinySbS with an attached USB

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-16 Thread JJZolx
regalma1;576963 Wrote: Here is a good question does anyone make a small (12), generic and very quiet laptop that runs Windows? 12 screen? There are a few netbooks available with 12.1 screens, but most will have 10.1 screens. You'll want a netbook with the latest generation of Atom N450

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-16 Thread Phil Leigh
garym;576965 Wrote: ...I admit that people have real issues, but this idea that the TOUCH is junk is too over the top to be taken seriously. +1 IT IS NOT JUNK. With SBS, it is a superb quality NMP that performs beautifully. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-16 Thread aubuti
regalma1;576963 Wrote: The Touch is a good idea badly executed - umm sounds like a typical Slim Devices product. Am I correct in inferring from 'your earlier post' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=576507#post576507) that you haven't actually used a Touch? Iffy or exotic

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-16 Thread nicolas75
Actually the weird thing is that I was very happy with the squeezebox classic. And I do think that the Touch is better than the classic in everything the classic does, and a few other things more. The bad point is that the internal server is expected to work well, and that it usually doesn't, at

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread spamtom
JJZolx;576613 Wrote: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did they purposely design the hardware to run only a limited version of the server, or was the server scaled back due to the hardware limitations? I think it was mostly the latter - TinySbS was made tiny because they realized

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread JohnSwenson
jean2;576604 Wrote: Is it an educated guess, or do you know something we don't ? You are worrying me, as I hope Moore's law will continue to impact the SB range of products... Jean Its not that I don't think there will ever be a new model, but I don't think there is going to be one right

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread Pat Farrell
On 09/14/2010 10:38 PM, JJZolx wrote: pfarrell;576608 Wrote: But, the Touch built in server was called TinySBS for a long time, for a reason. Its limited. It will always be limited. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did they purposely design the hardware to run only a limited

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread Goodsounds
JohnSwenson;576697 Wrote: .. I think Logitech wants to get as much revenue out of the Touch as they can before spending more development money. This is true for every product and every company. The challenge is always to figure out what approach works best for a particular product, frequent

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread mlsstl
JohnSwenson;576760 Wrote: Then marketing heard about it... In other words, another good example of no good deed goes unpunished -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread JohnSwenson
regalma1;576724 Wrote: Here is what I want. A box with enough power to act as a true controller. It can have a USB port for a HD or I can use a NAS. There are advantages to both. Or even better a USB drive that can be updated from my PC over the ethernet. One which is fully powered down

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread JJZolx
JohnSwenson;576760 Wrote: I can pretty much guarantee the Touch was not designed as a server, it was designed as the next generation network player. When they got some early prototypes up and running they realized it was only using half the CPU and memory for the player software. Someone

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread nicolas75
I've been using the Touch for a few monthes now. At the beginning, I used TinySBS with an external usb 500GB usb powered (about 150 GB of flac files). I was somewhat happy, but I finally gave up using internal server. The main reason is that rescanning happens far too often, and is unnacceptably

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread Phil Leigh
nicolas75;576777 Wrote: I suspect the support of NTFS is not good in the Touch. It was added lately, because some people, including me, said that it was not acceptable to release a product which doesn't support NTFS nowadays (I still think this is true). But I fear that the way the Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread nicolas75
Phil Leigh;576781 Wrote: No, all of this is completely untrue. The touch handles the disk using standard linux methods. It does nothing that any linux-based computer or NAS doesn't do. Well, I can use my usb disk on whatever PC without any problem. But when I plug it to the Touch, it makes

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread nicolas75
You can also add that I work with all kind of Desktops, Laptops, Nettops, etc ... I usually never have any problem with any kind of NTFS external disks. But the Touch is obviously well known to work with some disks, but not with some others, and not only a few of them ... My disk is a funny

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-15 Thread JJZolx
nicolas75;576804 Wrote: You can also add that I work with all kind of Desktops, Laptops, Nettops, etc ... I usually never have any problem with any kind of NTFS external disks. But the Touch is obviously well known to work with some disks, but not with some others, and not only a few of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-14 Thread regalma1
I had visions of a Touch with a USB drive and using an iPad for a remote. Mostly instant on, no Windows boot up and crash issues, sweet controller. Well it looks like the Slim boys did it again. Great idea, lousy implementation and no what we call here QV or quality verification, that is a group

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-14 Thread Brasso
I've not had any major problems using TinySBS on the Touch. I've had a 1.5TB samsung USB drive attached to the touch with about 14K tracks (200GB) mostly flac and mp3. The USB drive has lots of other files as well including hundreds of photos - I've been using it for backups until I get another

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-14 Thread JohnSwenson
The discovering files part is the quick part, its just reading the directories and comparing the filenames and timestamps with its own database. (if you do a rescan it doesn't have its own database yet!) THEN it goes in and actually reads the files that it thinks are new (everything with a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-14 Thread JohnSwenson
tv69;575589 Wrote: If the Touch as it is now does not have enough power to handle large TB external hard drives with thousands of FLACs, can adding more memory and/or implementing a more powerful processor be the solution? Can this be expected by any chance? TV Sure, its called a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-14 Thread jean2
JohnSwenson;576600 Wrote: and don't hold your breath for a new model. John S. Is it an educated guess, or do you know something we don't ? You are worrying me, as I hope Moore's law will continue to impact the SB range of products... Jean -- jean2

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-14 Thread Pat Farrell
On 09/14/2010 09:04 PM, jean2 wrote: JohnSwenson;576600 Wrote: and don't hold your breath for a new model. Is it an educated guess, or do you know something we don't ? You are worrying me, as I hope Moore's law will continue to impact the SB range of products... You are quoting John out

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-14 Thread JJZolx
pfarrell;576608 Wrote: There will be better/faster/cheaper Touch models. But, the Touch built in server was called TinySBS for a long time, for a reason. Its limited. It will always be limited. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Did they purposely design the hardware to run

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-10 Thread carib
yup -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-09 Thread juzi
mrkd29;575350 Wrote: Update: Still steaming a bit that the internal TinySBS server wouldn't work as advertised... That was the main reason I bought the Touch. Oh well...at least I can use the system now. I think tinySBS is the worst idea they ever had. If you read through several forums

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-09 Thread ModelCitizen
juzi;575414 Wrote: I think tinySBS is the worst idea they ever had. You haven't tried the Controller then? MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-09 Thread m1abrams
ModelCitizen;575426 Wrote: You haven't tried the Controller then? MC I have no issues with the controller. While I find the iphone + iPeng makes for a better controller that is really not the fault of the software but more with the hardware. -- m1abrams

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-09 Thread mlsstl
ModelCitizen;575426 Wrote: You haven't tried the Controller then? I use a Controller with my Touch and a SB3 and am pretty happy with it. (I sold the Duet's receiver.) I'd give the Controller about a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10. It works well the vast majority of the time, but occasionally just

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-09 Thread carib
Hi Mark, glad you’re sticking it out with the SB Touch. I felt I had to chime in on some of the issues brought up in this thread. Like you, I too stressed out at first try setting up a standalone Touch, but I eventually got it working. I just ordered my second SB Radio yesterday (this time in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-09 Thread m1abrams
I understand people who just want a single player not wanting to deal with a separate server. What I do not understand is people who want multiple devices sharing the same library and not wanting a dedicated music server. When you start getting 100s of gigs of music, what is your backup plan

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-09 Thread tv69
If the Touch as it is now does not have enough power to handle large TB external hard drives with thousands of FLACs, can adding more memory and/or implementing a more powerful processor be the solution? Can this be expected by any chance? TV -- tv69

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-08 Thread mrkd29
Update: I gave up trying to get the internal Touch server to work. I had no energy to continue trying to troubleshoot after the many failed attempts. I ended up installing squeezebox server on my downstairs PC along with the music hard drive. That computer is hard wired to my wireless router.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-08 Thread tony.s
Boy do I know that feeling... Very disappointed! -- tony.s tony.s's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-08 Thread m1abrams
mrkd29;575350 Wrote: Update: I gave up trying to get the internal Touch server to work. I had no energy to continue trying to troubleshoot after the many failed attempts. I ended up installing squeezebox server on my downstairs PC along with the music hard drive. That computer is hard

[SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread mrkd29
I finally decided to register here so I can post my nightmare problems with the Touch. I've been lurking for a few weeks reading through other peoples problems with the SB Touch and external hard drives hoping a solution would come up that works for me... Well, it hasn't happened and I'm about

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread garym
Sorry to hear of your continuing problems. I can say I don't think it is the size of your library. I set a touch up for my brother and he has about 60,000 mp3 files in an attached USB drive and it has worked from day one as expected. I can't speak whether it would deal with 40,000 FLAC files ok

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread mrkd29
Thank you for your response Gary. I do appreciate the advice and hope I don't come across as just a complainer. I truly want this thing to work. I will post this on the other Logitech forum that you recommended as well. I'll try connecting the HD to my laptop and run it through the PC server

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread garym
Yep, just do this as a bit of a test. Good luck. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread iPhone
Hi Mark. A bunch of questions since your post was long with very little actual information to help troubleshoot. On a side note, 160GB of music is not a large library. The smallest USB drive I use with my Touch is my 320GB only containing my Favorites. I routinely use 1TB USB drives with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread mrkd29
Thanks for the help! Answers to your questions below: The first most important question is, was TinySC completely finished scanning the USB drive before you started using the Touch? Did you go to SettingsAdvancedSqueezebox Server to see what the scanning was doing (that it was finished)? Yes,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread mrkd29
I do have a PC downstairs that I could run a dedicated server on but it's not hard wired to ethernet. It's wireless. Do you think that will be a problem? -- mrkd29 mrkd29's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread mrkd29
I can move my router downstairs so that the PC is hard wired. The Touch would then be wireless (upstairs). Or I can leave as is (Touch currently hardwired-PC downstairs wireless). Is there a preferred way of doing it? -- mrkd29

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread mlsstl
I have a Touch and use it with an external server. It is a very solid performer in this capacity and I'm quite pleased with it. However, in perhaps a half-dozen tries, I've never been successful in getting the built-in SBS to run well with an external drive with my full collection. (48,000 songs

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread garym
mrkd29;574782 Wrote: I can move my router downstairs so that the PC is hard wired. The Touch would then be wireless (upstairs). Or I can leave as is (Touch currently hardwired-PC downstairs wireless). Is there a preferred way of doing it? I have to believe it would be better to have your

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare

2010-09-06 Thread iPhone
Hello again Mark. Using the USB Stick as I said splits the problem in half. Something that I feel needs done (its the engineer in me, hate working on a problem that is actually not the problem because nobody took the time to rule out half of what could be causing the problem). We need to