Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2011-02-18 Thread metronet
JohnSwenson;579864 Wrote: > The C-media USB receivers are some of the worst ones ever made, their > sole redeeming feature is that they are dirt cheap. No wonder you like > the S/PDIF better. > > John S. Hi John, do you think the CM6631 would be a better choice? I am now thinking of getting t

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-30 Thread JohnSwenson
The C-media USB receivers are some of the worst ones ever made, their sole redeeming feature is that they are dirt cheap. No wonder you like the S/PDIF better. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-29 Thread metronet
iPhone;577838 Wrote: > Do you already own one? If the answer is NO, stay away from USB DACs. > Use the Coax Digital out on the Touch! > > If one just has to use a DAC with the Touch, use a DAC with Coax S/PDIF > input with the Touch. > > With both Toslink and COAX S/PDIF output available on all

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-20 Thread OGS
iPhone;577906 Wrote: > > With all the help I hope I have been to Forum Members, I would think it > more then obvious that I just might happen to already know what I am > doing when using digital files. > > Snip... > > Maybe its just me, but the only reason I can think of using a USB DAC > for

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-20 Thread Andy8421
Iphone, By using the flow control capabilities of USB, the clock in the DAC can be completely isolated from the rest of the data delivery chain. In principle, this would allow a local low jitter clock to be used in the DAC instead of the compromise of using a clock derived from the S/PDIF bitstr

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-20 Thread iPhone
OGS;577869 Wrote: > I really do not understand what this campaign is all about. What campaign, there is no campaign, but there is a question? Why buy or bother with a USB DAC when Squeezeboxes are not designed to use this inferior output connection? OGS;577869 Wrote: > You talk about all the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-20 Thread OGS
iPhone;577838 Wrote: > Do you already own one? If the answer is NO, stay away from USB DACs. > Use the Coax Digital out on the Touch! > > If one just has to use a DAC with the Touch, use a DAC with Coax S/PDIF > input with the Touch. > > With both Toslink and COAX S/PDIF output available on all

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-20 Thread iPhone
Gazjam;577810 Wrote: > This trick might work with the new Arcam RDac. > > Also has asyncronous USB. > Any thoughts? > > Just a thought as its a helluva lot cheaper than the Ayre! Do you already own one? If the answer is NO, stay away from USB DACs. Use the Coax Digital out on the Touch! If on

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-20 Thread Gazjam
This trick might work with the new Arcam RDac. Also has asyncronous USB. Any thoughts? Just a thought as its a helluva lot cheaper than the Ayre! -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?useri

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-19 Thread iPhone
OGS;577292 Wrote: > Yes, certainly! I've tried to make this work with my Touch, but no > sucess... Does this include support for async USB mode? > > ralphpnj and iPhone, have you actually listened to a Music > Streamer USB DAC, the Ayre or one of the other asynchronous USB dacs? > You shoul

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-19 Thread ralphpnj
Kal Rubinson;577671 Wrote: > I might worry if I believed my comments have a significant influence. > > Kal Okay Kal that does it - by not thinking that every audiophile hangs on each of your written words you have violated one the of the most basic of all audiophile laws - the infallibility of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-19 Thread Kal Rubinson
ralphpnj;577650 Wrote: > Kal, > > You are getting dangerously close to be outcast from the audiophile > community for heresy. > > If the cable manufacturers can't sell outrageously priced USB, CAT 5 > and other digital cables what will happen to Stereophile's advertising > revenue stream?I migh

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-19 Thread ralphpnj
Kal Rubinson;577626 Wrote: > Amen. Many audiophiles are stuck with outdated assumptions and even the > definition of "purist" needs to be updated for the digital age. > > Kal Kal, You are getting dangerously close to be outcast from the audiophile community for heresy. If the cable manufactu

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-19 Thread Kal Rubinson
Phil Leigh;577596 Wrote: > Bull. > :-) > IF you've seen and heard what goes on in a recording/mastering studio > you'd appreciate just how crazy that statement is :-) > > By your definition (?) , "audiophiles" are folks who masochistically > like listening to crap sound because their room messes

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-19 Thread Mnyb
Phil Leigh;577596 Wrote: > Bull. > :-) > IF you've seen and heard what goes on in a recording/mastering studio > you'd appreciate just how crazy that statement is :-) > > By your definition (?) , "audiophiles" are folks who masochistically > like listening to crap sound because their room messes

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-19 Thread ralphpnj
Phil Leigh;577596 Wrote: > Bull. > :-) > IF you've seen and heard what goes on in a recording/mastering studio > you'd appreciate just how crazy that statement is :-) > > By your definition (?) , "audiophiles" are folks who masochistically > like listening to crap sound because their room messes

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-19 Thread Phil Leigh
ralphpnj;577429 Wrote: > Using a Tact for room correction is definitely not an "audiophile > approved" configuration but since this is not the "Audiophiles" section > I guess that it is allowable and forgivable:) Bull. :-) IF you've seen and heard what goes on in a recording/mastering studio you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-18 Thread ralphpnj
adamdea;577465 Wrote: > Well quite. But then equally there is (as I recall) a reason why the > ayre dac has a USB input and a USB input only. Sure there is: To sell to all the audiophiles who have been led to believe that only way to get music form their computer is via iTunes and a USB connect

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-18 Thread adamdea
Kal Rubinson;577410 Wrote: > But I didn't say that USB was the critical element. Some of it has to > be due to the quality of the Ayre DAC. ;-) > > Kal Well quite. But then there is a reason why the ayre dac has a USB input and a USB input only. -- adamdea --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-18 Thread ralphpnj
OGS;577431 Wrote: > Oh I could just as well posted it in "Audiophiles". I have not read any > definitive definitions of "audiophile", but I doubt yours would > qualify. If you like to talk rubbish I'll leave you to it... Funny I wasn't trying to "talk rubbish" rather I was trying to be funny. Ma

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-18 Thread OGS
ralphpnj;577429 Wrote: > Using a Tact for room correction is definitely not an "audiophile > approved" configuration but since this is not the "Audiophiles" section > I guess that it is allowable and forgivable:) Oh I could just as well posted it in "Audiophiles". I have not read any definitive

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-18 Thread ralphpnj
OGS;577426 Wrote: > No, not from me. > I am using Touch with S/PDIF coax to my Tact, sounds very nice. I also > have a Music Streamer II+. This is a much better DAC than the one in > the Tact. When I get the Touch USB output to work with the Music > Streamer I'll have much better sound, with all

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-18 Thread OGS
ralphpnj;577384 Wrote: > > However now I guess we're going a long round of posts claiming that > using the Touch with a USB connection is superior to using the SPDIF > connection. Oh well, have fun. No, not from me. I am using Touch with S/PDIF coax to my Tact, sounds very nice. I also have a M

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-18 Thread Kal Rubinson
adamdea;577296 Wrote: > ..and KR saying in his touch review that via the USB out to > the ayre it gave the best digital 2 channel sound he had heard, I'm > guessing.But I didn't say that USB was the critical element. Some of it has > to be due to the quality of the Ayre DAC. ;-) K

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-18 Thread ralphpnj
ralphpnj;577275 Wrote: > I agree with iPhone. Maybe I somehow missed it but when did a USB > connection become the most desirable one? Last thing I recall was > reading about what big pain in the neck USB connections where and how > much better it was to transmit the data via a network connection

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-17 Thread adamdea
ralphpnj;577275 Wrote: > I agree with iPhone. Maybe I somehow missed it but when did a USB > connection become the most desirable one? Last thing I recall was > reading about what big pain in the neck USB connections where and how > much better it was to transmit the data via a network connection

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-17 Thread OGS
JohnSwenson;577270 Wrote: > > If you can live with these it works well. > > John S. Yes, certainly! I've tried to make this work with my Touch, but no sucess... Does this include support for async USB mode? ralphpnj and iPhone, have you actually listened to a Music Streamer USB DAC, the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-17 Thread ralphpnj
iPhone;577089 Wrote: > I believe that John S has been able to get USB output. IIRC he said it > was going to take a hardware hack though if one wanted to disable the > Analog and Digital outputs though. > > I still don't think it will be better then Coax Digital out though. > There are so many i

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-17 Thread JohnSwenson
Give me a day or two and I'll post the instructions. There are some caveats, its NOT plug ang and play, if you make the file modification to use a USB DAC you can't get output from any other output, it will JUST play to the USB DAC. You also loose the UI sounds (beeps etc when you touch the screen

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB Output? Anybody do it yet?

2010-09-16 Thread iPhone
kgturner;577074 Wrote: > I remember somebody saying that the Touch could be modified via > software/firmware changes to output from the USB. Anybody do it yet and > have step by step directions? > > I'm not programming proficient at all, but I can follow directions. > Like I tell the IT guy at w