> Ty, but I don't click on possible hack links
Now that you've drawn my attention to it, I'm confused by that link,
because it appears differently on the forum[1] from how it does on the
list.[2]
[1] https://trisquel.info/en/forum/hello-1#comment-141687
[2]
Ty, but I don't click on possible hack links
@ty for your warm welcome :-)
I've tried the add-on for canvas protection.
I also tweaked the about:config / canvas options, even if I'm not sure
exactly what they are doing :-)
Cheers mates!
Congratulations. Software freedom is the first major step toward freedom in
cyberspace. Even more challenges await, so be prepared for fighting.
Hello elysiuMures! If you use social networks and want to use free software,
you can connect with me and others on Mastodon:
https://floss.social/@davidpgil
In particular floss.social seems to want to encourage people to join who
believe in free software to socialize there.
Welcome to the Trisquel forum. I hope you enjoy of the great people that's
part of this great community. With the few years I have in this forum, I can
tell you you'll see very interesting conversations.
Hello folks,
I just joined the forum. I'm elysiuMures, Romanian-French.
I'm into girls, Universal thinking, arts, sports, healthy living, GNU-Linux,
custom PC builds, a couple of games occasionally, BTC/LTC, security
I would like to express a Big Thank You to the Trisquel team for making an
TBH I play games very little these days. Partly because my ancient hardware
doesn't support many games, and partly because if I'm going to use a computer
to explore a virtual world, interact with characters, and find surprises and
excitement, there's no better multi-player game than The
GrevenGull
> There was some talk a while back that all SSDs contain proprietary software
I haven't tried to Libreboot this laptop, so I'm only running free code from
the kernel up. It's possible that there may be proprietary code built into
the BIOS (or some other part of the hardware) that
"I don't subscribe a mailing list to be using it as a web forum. by visiting
archive for each response)
Perhaps it may be worth considering if your email program can't tell you what
message is a reply to what? (Since you've indicated twice earlier that "I
don't see what are you answering
I don't subscribe a mailing list to be using it as a web forum.
(by visiting archive for each response)
https://trisquel.info/forum
El 17/4/19 a les 5:54, ja...@bluehome.net ha escrit:
> "I don't see what are you answering to"
>
> I was responding to you. It's all there on the web forums.
"I don't see what are you answering to"
I was responding to you. It's all there on the web forums. Check it out:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/hello-everyone-i-have-question-about-part-trisquel-gnulinux#comment-140444
on #18, #19, #20.
nadebula.1984: "As long as Debian keeps i386
I don't see what are you answering to, but I remember that this list
thread was related to supported processors by Linux kernels.
El 16/4/19 a les 3:14, ja...@bluehome.net ha escrit:
> "currently requires i686 compatible processors."
>
> Perhaps; but the name of the architecture (in the package
My X40 does support Debian testing (buster) i386. However, it is possible
that my X40 has PAE support. I may need to check its CPU architecture (Banias
or Dothan).
"currently requires i686 compatible processors."
Perhaps; but the name of the architecture (in the package manager and when
downloading the ISO from debian.org) remains "i386" and so when you see
people mentioning "i386" in relation to Debian it is best to interpret that
to be a reference
I don't know what are you answering to; for x86 platform Debian
currently requires i686 compatible processors.
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#i386-is-now-almost-i686
Next version (Debian 10) will keep this architecture, but I don't know
about the
As long as Debian keeps i386 architecture, it's not a big problem.
I do have some legacy computers (32-bit CPU without PAE) running i386 version
of Debian testing. The only problem is that the very-old Intel integrated
graphics (830GM for X30 and 855GM for X40, respectively) are not well
What games do you play btw?:)
How does the software in SSDs work? There was some talk a while back that all
SSDs contain proprietary software (but there was disagreement if I recall
correctly about what this software could do/have access to).
Do you anything about this?
Mate is working really well for me and I probably have one of the oldest
computers anyone is still trying to use (bought in 2010):
https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/bishop
I doubled the RAM to 2GB about a year ago. Just before that I replaced the
HDD with an SSD and as I've
> Thanks for your reply and help. I think I'm good unless I failed to check
> completely. I'm still learning terminal, so bare with me.
It looks to me like you did everything correctly, so assuming that this
program is reliable, it looks like your computer doesn't have Intel ME.
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@Chaosmonk: Here are my results
gandalfthegrey@gandalfthegrey-VGN-NR310E:~/mei-amt-check$ ./mei-amt-check
Unable to find a Management Engine interface - run sudo modprobe mei_me and
retry.
If you receive the same error, this system does not have AMT
I've this package on Debian:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/spectre-meltdown-checker
> gandalfthegrey@gandalfthegrey-VGN-NR310E:~$
The ~ before the $ means that you are in your home directory
(/home/gandalfthegrey). mei-amt-check isn't there, so that's why the
command isn't found.
First install git, if you haven't already.
$ sudo apt install git
Then clone the mei-amt-check
Thanks for the info. After following several discussions and checking with
commands, this is what I found:
gandalfthegrey@gandalfthegrey-VGN-NR310E:~$ sudo ./mei-amt-check
[sudo] password for gandalfthegrey:
sudo: ./mei-amt-check: command not found
gandalfthegrey@gandalfthegrey-VGN-NR310E:~$
Try following the guides like this one -
https://superuser.com/questions/1205089/how-to-determine-version-intel-management-engine-on-linux
- to try to check the Intel ME version. If you could detect the Intel ME
version, that means Intel ME is present on your platform.
Thank you for adding me to the forum. I recently became a Trisquel 8 user and
I am enjoying the OS. It's refreshing to be using free software and bringing
an old laptop back to life. I was pleased (and surprised) that the distro
works completely out of the box!
Currently using a Sony Vaio
Thanx ;)
Hello and welcome to the free software community. Ubuntu uses bash as its
shell, Trisquel uses the same shell (the shell is the command line user
interface). The only difference is that you would not be able to execute
commands that require non-free software.
Hello New World I am new, I finally moved on with GNU/Linux Trisquel i have
been on and off with Microsoft/ubuntu since 1999. and understanding the truth
about GNU and linux. I finally got my hp compaq 6910p to work 100% with my
usb wifi TP-LINK TL-WN821N 300MBPS.to fuction well with
All I said about Trisquel 10 is that it will be based on Ubuntu 20.04,
and that's all I know about it.
As for Trisquel 9, all I know is what I've gathered from tuning into
some of the Freedom Friday meetings, which is that the priority now
seems to be infrastructural improvements, that this
Hello monk of chaos, I am surprised to find a correspondence concerning
Trisquel 9 and even Trisquel 10.
May I ask you if there exists a content for the upcoming Trisquel on this
site?
Thank you very much in advance.
Yours sincerely torsten.
So am I. Often
I am one of them. Sometimes.
> True, but wouldn't that mean having to import an increasing number of
> packages from elsewhere?
I'm not sure exactly how much extra work it would be. It would certainly
help if there were an arch32-like community project. That said, I don't
see any reason to expect Ubuntu to drop 32-bit
Chaosmonk:
> Even if Ubuntu does drop 32-bit support, Trisquel doesn't necessarily have
to do the same
True, but wouldn't that mean having to import an increasing number of
packages from elsewhere? If the value of basing Trisquel off an upstream
distro is that it limits the amount of work
> I didn't know about the netboot discs and that they still
> had 32-bit support.
Understandable. I had to specifically look for them. The Ubuntu website
doesn't go out of its way to advertise that they support more
architectures than amd64.
> All that I knew was that flavors of Ubuntu (such as
Thanks for answering everyone! As for a few questions up above. No, I do not
know if Ubuntu is going to drop 32-bit support or if they have plans on doing
so, I didn't know about the netboot discs and that they still had 32-bit
support. All that I knew was that flavors of Ubuntu (such as
Actually, as long everything is under the free software foundation, and el
viejo, guidance, they could built a snasam software, it does not mean
nothning to me.I still believe in el viejo the fundation
Nobody knows... ;)
Even if Ubuntu does this it doesn't necessarily follow that Trisquel must as
well. There has been no announcement that Trisquel will be doing this.
> I wanted to know if plans to dropping 32-bit support and only 64
> will be the future for Trisquel 9 Etiona?
Trisquel 9 will be based on Ubuntu 18.04. Since 18.04 has 32-bit support
I do not think it will be a problem for Trisquel 9. Trisquel 9 will also
add support for some non-x68
Recently I've been seeing that some GNU/Linux distributions have been
dropping 32-bit support out of their plans. This including Ubuntu and Arch
(although, for the latter, there is arch32 which fixes that and the
libre-projects known as Parabola GNU/Linux and Hyperbola have 32-bit versions
Let me try to login as Plasma Wayland session from LightDM in the Devuan and
Trisquel systems, then Wayland is confirmed to be supported from LightDM
Thanks y'all! I went back to regular Trisquel so all is well
If you also need Wayland-based sessions like https://liri.io or Plasma shell
I instead recommend SDDM to us all, which LightDM maybe doesn't support
Wayland protocol.
And I'm happy using SDDM as my default display manager for Parabola, PureOS,
Devuan, Trisquel, Hyperbola, that's Qt-written
Greetings once again :)
-First of all, what display manager does Trisquel 8 use?
-How can I edit it and enable compositing like regular Trisquel-MATE does? I
love Trisquel-mini but I have enough resources to enable compositing and make
the display manager prettier :)
-Also encountered a
to answer your questions about trisquel just write it, and someone will
respond.
Welcome here! This is a wonderful, vibrant community where you should be
comfortable asking any question you may have no matter what your
existing level of skill with Gnu/Linux may be.
Welcome, we are here for solve all your doubts, just ask. Enjoy our free
software community. More people interested in free software, more power we
have.
Hi
Welcome! Hope you enjoy 100% free software.
Hi!
Hi :) I hope you enjoy your time here.
Hello everyone I am a new Member. Because not understand the activity forum
page for how people are looking forward to help. Thanks
If I sounded so, I didn't actually mean to race them against each other. They
are all parts of the same ecology of course. GNU makes the base, while Debian
getting them all and putting together to form a yet another product built on
GNU products. Still, there is a niche ("Debian Libre")
"If there is no unacceptable issues with Debian/main then why reinvent the
wheel?"
Well, there needs a base. Debian couldn't have existed without the GNU
Project to make the wheel back in 1983 in the first place. It's called Debian
GNU/Linux for a reason. :)
"There is an immense manpower
[QUOTE]"A project to make an operating system needs to start by first going
to someone else and use theirs? Wait, what?"[/QUOTE]
:)
I am a bit more on the pragmatical side of it. More specifically I happen to
be against duplication of effort. Afterall, apt or guix or GNU projects are
all
"Which reminds me of GNU having no OS distribution of their own (so far as I
know). Seriously, wouldn't it be nice if GNU rolled out such a libre distro
of its own"
They've already got one, distributed directly from gnu.org. Go download it
here: https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/download/
Which reminds me of GNU having no OS distribution of their own (so far as I
know).
Seriously, wouldn't it be nice if GNU rolled out such a libre distro of its
own? Built on top unmodified Debian/main, having a free ride on it and adding
libre solutions on top of that, might be a good
You're probably refering to GNU FSDG, instead of Debian's DFSG.
FSF won't and shouldn't ever compromise. Compromising for 'completeness' can
be found in any given distro. In fact it is why Debian isn't DFSG. So yeah,
don't hold your breath
A distro cannot have GNU FSDG status if its name makes it easy to confuse it
with a non-FSDG distro.
If only gNewSense were to adopt the free-rider approach I've been talking
about, which is my main point, then they could be regarded as "Debian Libre"
as well. Unfortunately gNewSense seems to be going the hard way too. While
they get close, with the aim of "the difference with Debian should
If **their** "main-equivalent" repository (i.e. the base/default system) is
also FSF cleared, which I doubt,...
This begs a clarification. With "their" I meant Arch, and not Parabola.
>A task-force within Debian, composed of libre software enthusiasts and
dedicated to libre OS idea, can roll out a sub-Debian distribution as "Debian
Libre".
^^
"Yes, a "Debian Libre" distribution sounds sensible. Why didn't I think of
this before?"
Round and Round we go.
You were told this already, its called gNewSense, it is Debian Libre or a
Liberated Debian. Contact them via iirc and their mailing list and have fun
with it. The lead dev.
Honestly I have no idea about Arch Linux and Parabola - never used a pacman
based distro. If their "main-equivalent" repository (i.e. the base/default
system) is also FSF cleared, which I doubt, if and Parabola is using it
as-is, than Parabola could be analogous to Debian Libre. Otherwise,
If this community is stablished, care must me taken such that this
subproject doesn't end up referencing support resources from the parent
project, as one must remember that the GNU FSDG also serves to evaluate
the behavior of the cummunity and their support resources.
Maybe it would make better sense to bring this up in Debian community.
A task-force within Debian, composed of libre software enthusiasts and
dedicated to libre OS idea, can roll out a sub-Debian distribution as "Debian
Libre". Most of its members, I presume, would also be taking roles in
I had clicked on the link at your first post. :)
You are right in giving the link (and the implications thereof), but I
believe I am also right in ignoring it.
The thing is, my approach is radically different. I am more interested in how
to achieve the best compromise regardless of the
Or simply evaluate their repositories separately, calculate their full distro
status by logically AND'ing all their repositories (Free:TRUE, Nonfree:FALSE)
and list it all in each distribution's explanation sub-paragraph. If there
are other variables (ATM I can't think of one) to be taken
Regarding whether the work of software liberation could as well be done in
Debian, since it's already the upstream:
With upstream, I mean primarily the developer, secondarily Debian. There are
things within Debian sphere, and those that are beyond it.
- Take IceCat for instance - it's not
I might be wrong here (of course I might, because I don't/can't speak
for the FSF, and I don't participate on the workgroup for free/libre
distribution evaluation), but perhaps the whole point of the GNU FSDG is
to answer questions such as: "Once a user sits in front of the system
dinstribution
Yes, that's what I meant ;)
The work of software liberation could as well be done for Debian (which is a
better idea since it's already upstream).
In theory, using Debian's repo shouldn't change Trisquel's goals.
And yet, as long as the non-free repos exist, and as long as Debian makes
From the link you posted (from Alberto):
While the FSF does not include Debian on this list because the Debian project
provides a repository of nonfree software, the FSF does acknowledge that
Debian's main repository, which by default is the only place packages come
from, is completely
Oh, I think you meant something else by dropping the name.
If all the downstream modifications are accepted by upstream, then after a
while, there would be no difference left between upstream and Trisquel
packages. So Trisquel would be ditto Debian, and its mission would come to an
end.
Sure, Takumi not Alberto, which by the way is a very polite and decent mate
(unlike me).
I have seen the pages you referred to. But that doesn't invalidate the older
link Alberto has given. The difference is that, the pages you refer deal with
distributions as a whole, whereas the older link deals specifically with the
main repository of Debian. This is precisely why I wished
If you want a Libre OS that is based on Ubuntu then use Trisquel.
If you want a Libre OS that is based on Debian then use gNewSense.
Each has its merits, each has its reasons for choosing the distro they are
based on.
There are a few official FSF/Libre distros and a more distros that are
First of all, no loosening or compromise on FSDG seems to be needed as per
the link I've referred to.
Secondly, regarding "What would be Trisquel's raison d'être?" it would be
that Trisquel would become just like Debian (as you have pointed out) but
with better free solutions. That is,
OK, so loosened in this specific way, as in:
- letting non-free suggestion be (I guess this won't pass, but for users in
the know, it's manageable. Until you want to install it for a newbie I
suppose).
- What else?
Yeah, I see what you mean now.
But then what's the point of Trisquel if
My point is, Debian/main can be used *without modification* by Trisquel (or
gNewSense for that matter). The whole rationale behind a loosened FSDG idea
was to be able to get a free ride on Debian/main in the first place.
BTW the fact that gNewSense is based on Debian doesn't guarantee that
Oh, but it's already considered that way regarding Debian.
It's just that for new or inexperienced users, it's possible to install
non-free firmware by accident. Hence Debian as a whole being suggested to
experienced users preferably.
But we're splitting hair here. Yes, in theory, Trisquel
With a layered approach, I mean the same FSDG rules applied separately per
each repository. So, in Debian's case the outcome would be like this:
Debian/main = free
Debian/contrib = non-free
Debian/non-free = non-free
instead of Debian = non-free
The FSDG rules are the same, no compromise is
I definitely think Debian as a base would be potentially better, simply based
on the fact that there's one less intermediary layer (whatever Ubuntu adds),
which potentially means less things to fix.
But I'm more worried about the little bugs I encounter sometimes on Trisquel
(I have yet to
Regarding "FSF should not compromise" opinion expressed by CalmStorm, hack
and hack and others;
https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-and-debian-join-forces-to-help-free-software-users-find-the-hardware-they-need
Upon this link (thanks to Alberto) I take my "loosened FSDG" suggestion back.
Still, a
Thats not what i thought at all.
I tryed to be kind with our new friend Abdullah. I understand he wants to
participate.
I would like him to try trisquel of course, but i never say to him to shut
up or to stop asking questions or talking with us.
And I absolutely not meant to be rude
I third this with really intentions.
Liberating software is no trivial task.
As for loosened rules, non-free is non-free, there's no way around it.
It's up to the user to decide if compromise is an option, and to which
extent/in which conditions. I personally will stay with free software.
Mass adoption can't be achieved when
I don't think the fsf should or will compromise,
but... I also think that a debian trisquel would be a good idea to switch to
not now, but whenever debian 10 comes out.
That's just my thought though.
I second this!
Abdullah Ramazanoglu why you are such a pain in the ass. Shut up for once and
install/use Trisquel you smart-ass!
p.s. I am just saying what everybody starts to think at this point about you!
"I didn't know FSF supported a blobby BIOS"
They don't. It's actually libreboot, which is coreboot minus the blobs.
"firmware blobs are in hardware domain"
See https://jxself.org/free-firmware.shtml
Hello Alberto, thank you for your friendly reminder.
From my point of view, however, I was not criticizing at all, nor was I
asking for any change from anyone. I was just suggesting, brainstorming,
rather trying to be helpful. Yes I am not a Trisquel user yet, and perhaps
this gives me a
you nailed it. Thank You.
How many times do you plan to repeat yourself?
Both my friends Magic Banana and Onpon4 are pointing something really
important here:
There technical details that you are not taking in consideration.
Now, I want to say something (keep in mind I am saying this in friendly
manner :)
I think you have to learn more about Trisquel before
Thank you for reminding debian installer's FSDG status. I had forgotten to
state that in the presumptions, added an edit note for that.
I just want to point out that following Debian Testing would be largely
pointless, and it's not what Ubuntu does. Testing freezes non-security
updates at some point so that it can become Stable, then that release becomes
stable and a new Testing release is made, so it's not a smooth rolling
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