Gesundheit !! :)
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:58:46 -0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
epistemological
Hey Vince. He's doing it again.
Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you
ought to answer every man." (Colossia
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Bill seems to grasp the idea that we would be better off learning to
synthesize our viewpoints together into a complete whole, where perhaps a
synergy might develop through such mutual cooperation.
vince:
Most people call that ecumenism. I see no
You are too much for me, Judy. I can't help
you.
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Taylor
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Subject: [TruthTalk]
Re:Language-Including "The Bible"
From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
jt wrot
In a message dated 3/10/2004 12:01:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
JS'
What is JS
John -- the new guy
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
If we were to "level the playing field" and agree to discuss
this subject sola Scriptura (from Scripture only), using only
Scriptural words, this discussion would be much easier. Is that such an
unreasonable request to
From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
jt wrote > If they were kept in their
place it would not be so bad, but
when they are used as a grid through which to determine
God's truth they become a problematic.
I reply > Judy, Don't you get it? When we
say, "Truth is a Person,"
we are already
jt wrote > If they were kept in their place it would not be so
bad, but
when they are used as a grid through which to determine
God's truth they become a problematic.
I reply > Judy, Don't you get it? When we
say, "Truth is a Person," we are already accepting, without reservations, the
g
Powerful, David, Preach it!
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:24 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] The value of history
> John Smithson wrote:
> >> I am educated by the Word;
> >> I am entertained by history.
>
Does that mean you would have been in the Coliseum
cheering as Christians were being fed to the Lions? That is history. Is that the
kind of entertainment you are looking for?
. I am educated by
the Word; I am entertained by history. Grace
John Smithson
Wm. Taylor wrote:
Hi Terry, I am not suggesting that
anything other than Scripture is revelatory, neither are there other sources of truth comparable to
the Bible. I am saying that true statements can come from
sources other than the Bible. "Truth is a Person" is a great little
quo
epistemological
Hey Vince. He's doing it again.
Terry
\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/
Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
So much banter on the calendar.
There are those who believe that the moon is new when it is full.
Their numbers are growing significantly. Yes, they are wrong ... but that
is nothing new.
One writes that the first m
The word used here for one is ECHAD, Hebrew/Chaldee Lexicon To
The Old
Testament, (echad) means, "to unite, to join together, to be in
unity."
in other words "Compound United oneness"
echad is a uniplural adjective describing several items in one
unit or
group or compou
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me.
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:21:56 -0500
Perry wrote:
> Kevin's posts may indeed be Baptist commentary, but
> If the Baptists agree with scripture then, by all means,
> lets "read" Kevin's commentar
Kevin wrote:
> Something has gone horibly wrong the man that
> preaches UNITY is now going to distance himself
> or "SEPARATE" from the one who preaches separation.
> Isn't that a hoot!
You apparently have never understood my teaching about unity and
separation, but hey, maybe from your perspec
Chris wrote:
> Only when you realize that the Illuminati has long
> depicted their planned coming Antichrist as a naked
> one-eyed man does this scene make sense. This
> combination of scenes -- one-eyed Messiah and naked
> buttocks -- perfectly fulfills the Illuminist
> Antichrist symbol!
RO
God is the Author, the delivery was thru HOLY MEN of God. God did not use a pervert to deliver His word.
I believe Judy answered this alsoDave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
There is no defense of a book (BoM) that has been changed countless times.
The book has been tampered with
Something has gone horibly wrong the man that preaches UNITY is now going to distance himself or "SEPARATE" from the one who preaches separation. Isn't that a hoot!David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Judy wrote:> It would have saved a lot of misunderstanding if you > could have explained as sim
He was a devil
Is the Devil saved?Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
If only Judas could have endured one more moment?DAVEH: That's exactly the point.he did not endure, but instead chose to betray. Do you believe Judas had been saved at any time, Kevin? Had he endured, th
I find this very interesting. I have received
updates from Cuttingedge Ministries for a few years now and find their view of
world events interesting. Please don't misunderstand, I am not coming
down on anyone who sees this movie, but it is something to think
about. There has to be a lot
Judy wrote:
> It would have saved a lot of misunderstanding if you
> could have explained as simply as you did in that last
> post rather than take up an offence for Mel Gibson.
Following is how the conversation developed:
On Feb. 28, Terry wrote:
> ... making me wonder how the full moon
> fig
Perry wrote:
> Kevin's posts may indeed be Baptist commentary, but
> If the Baptists agree with scripture then, by all means,
> lets "read" Kevin's commentary.
I think the Baptists disagree with Scripture MORE than Roman Catholics
in many areas, but that is another thread altogether. :-)
Perr
Joseph Smith, Jr., The Holy Scriptures, Translated and Corrected by the Spirit of Revelation, by Joseph Smith, Jr. the Seer ... Plano, Illinois: Published by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Joseph Smith, I.L. Rogers, E. Robinson, Publishing Committee, 1867.
This version was severa
DavidM says: The truth is that history is a body of knowledge from which all of usinterpret and understand truth, including truth found in the Bible.
I do not interpret the truth of the bible through the lense of history. I interpret history through the lens of TRUTH the HOLY BIBLE.
Why should I
Lance says A little less hyperbole, a little less certainty, might go a long way.
You may be uncertain, I KNOW in WHOM I have Believed and KNOW that He is Able to perform that which He has promised!
Take the BIBLE test:
2 Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own s
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>You and Kevin
mocked me and raked me over pretty good for this very mundane point of fact that
I kept saying was very simple. It seems to me that both you and Kevin
should apologize and clearly state that you were wrong on this point.
jt: FTR I di
The Word of God stands sure!
IS 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
1 Co 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1 Co 16;13 Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.
2 Thes
In a message dated 3/10/2004 5:21:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: I hope you don't mind my intrusion, John. First.welcome to TT and this thread. it is great to speak with you
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with "person" (and I have used this m
Perry wrote:
> Actually, we know the order is true despite what
> "falling away" may mean, right? Paul is laying out
> the order. The falling away happens, then the man
> of sin is revealed, then the Lord comes.
>
> Now, if one takes "falling away" to mean a falling
> away of the faithful from t
In a message dated 3/10/2004 4:18:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Welcome to TT John Smithson, you write in part:
"I am educated by the Word; I am entertained by history."
Truly wisdom from above,
judyt
Hi judyt: i am thinking we agree. Right?
God bless and I am lo
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me.
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:39:41 -0500
Perry wrote:
> I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
> with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's m
David Miller wrote:
>> The problem is that you do not believe me,
>> so study some history about calendars like
>> Blaine has and you too will understand.
Judy wrote:
> You must be behind on your reading David because
> this thread is resolved; I disagree with you on
> some other issues but thi
Kevin Deegan wrote:
If only Judas could have endured one more moment?
DAVEH: That's exactly the point.he did not endure, but instead
chose to betray. Do you believe Judas had been saved at any time,
Kevin? Had he endured, then would he not have been saved as Jesus
promises?
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Lance
wrote:> Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system > ... Do
the "symbols" themselves contain the > truth(meaning) or, do they point
away from > themselves to the "meaning" we all seek?
Excellent point, Lance. Language is not truth, but it
Kevin Deegan wrote:
There is no defense of a book (BoM) that has been changed
countless times.
The book has been tampered with, it has been cooked.
There are no extant copies of the source documents. No BoM
sites, NO BoM peoples names recorded in any history, places or
documents secula
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>John Smithson
wrote:>> I am educated by the Word; >> I am entertained by
history.Judy wrote:> Truly wisdom from above
Terry wrote:> What a great line Is that original? Can
I steal it?
Why is it that those who say such things always seem to be t
From: Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Last Days
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Again, this is not an issue I hang my salvation on. I am actually
"pan-trib"...however it pans out!
*Hey Perry. That's my view on the tribulation too. I just never knew what
to call it
Lance wrote:
> Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system
> ... Do the "symbols" themselves contain the
> truth(meaning) or, do they point away from
> themselves to the "meaning" we all seek?
Excellent point, Lance. Language is not truth, but it helps point us to
the meaning that we all s
Perry wrote:
> I must say that I am in the same camp as Kevin
> with respect to not seeing Mel Gibson's movie.
> My position is that it is not "the Passion"...
> it is an RCC commentary about "the Passion".
That's like arguing that Kevin's posts on TruthTalk are a Baptist
commentary about Jesus
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Truth is a Person" AMEN11
However, how then does one account for this
cacaphony (look it up if you
don't know it) of voices.
jt: I know what the word 'cacaphony' means Lance,
this is what goes on
in hell.
lm: The Word of God + One indwelt by the S
Yes, Lance, yes, yes, yes. This is what I'm getting
at.
Bill Taylor
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Re:Language-Including "The Bible"
a. No syntactics contains it
From: "Wm. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am not suggesting that anything other than
Scripture is revelatory,
neither are there other sources of truth comparable to the Bible.
I am saying that true statements can come from
sources other than the Bible.
"Truth is a Person" is a great little
John Smithson wrote:
>> I am educated by the Word;
>> I am entertained by history.
Judy wrote:
> Truly wisdom from above
Terry wrote:
> What a great line Is that original?
> Can I steal it?
Why is it that those who say such things always seem to be those who are
least educated in history
Hi Terry, I am not suggesting that anything other
than Scripture is revelatory, neither are there other sources of truth comparable to the Bible. I am saying
that true statements can come from sources other than the Bible.
"Truth is a Person" is a great little quote. The first time your
hea
"Truth is a Person" AMEN11However, how then does
one account for this cacaphony (look it up if you don't know it) of voices. The
Word of God + One indwelt by the Spirit of God =??Well, what it equals is this
conversation! Does someone out there see that? A little less hyperbole, a little
les
If it is a contract with the government, yes. Certain forms are required,
and without the proper form number, are not acceptable. BUt probably not in
civil matters between two contracting parties.
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
a. No syntactics contains its own semantics
b. Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system
c. Do the "symbols" themselves contain the truth(meaning) or, do
they point away from themselves to the "meaning" we all seek?
Lance
God's word is not a sym
I read your post:
Gal 4;30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture?
Search the scriptures
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
2 Tim 3;16 All scripture
Everyone of us speaks from a "tradition" and words mean things. Why not revisit this whole discussion as it took place in the 4th century by such as Athanasius, Cyril, Gregory and yes, another Gregory (Nazianzus & Nyssa)-the Capadocians. Lance
It is just a matter of whether your tradition is the sa
From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Everyone of us speaks from a "tradition" and words
mean things.
Why not revisit this whole discussion as it took
place in the 4th century
by such as Athanasius, Cyril, Gregory and
yes, another Gregory
(Nazianzus & Nyssa)-the Capadocians.
Lance
jt:
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Again, this is not an issue I hang my salvation on. I am actually
"pan-trib"...however it pans out!
Hey Perry. That's my view on the tribulation too. I just never
knew what to call it before. Many thanks
I would like to hear (read) your post-tribulation
Everyone of us speaks from a "tradition" and words
mean things. Why not revisit this whole discussion as it took place in the 4th
century by such as Athanasius, Cyril, Gregory and yes, another Gregory
(Nazianzus & Nyssa)-the Capadocians. Lance
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: [EMAIL PROTECT
. I am educated by the Word; I am
entertained by history.
Grace
John Smithson
===
What a great line Is that original? Can I steal it?
Terry
William shies away from "biblicists" whatever that is.Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
a. No syntactics contains its own semantics b. Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system c. Do the "symbols" themselves contain the truth(meaning) or, do they point away from themselves to the "meani
DAVEH:
Do you recognize/accept the Trinity Doctrine? To me, the word
doctrine means a set of principles, something concrete to use as a
measuring device. I am not sure that I can describe the trinity and do
justice. Your idea of one in purpose is clearly included, but I think
Bill and Kevi
DAVEH: Does not the Bible suggest what God looks like when we are told Jesus is in his express image? (He 1:3) It seems logical to me that the Son would look similar to his Father.
For eons without end (for eternity past) Jesus did look like he Father.
JN 1 IIn the beginning was the Word, an
a. No syntactics contains its own semantics b.
Language, like mathematics is a symbolic system c. Do the "symbols" themselves
contain the truth(meaning) or, do they point away from themselves to the
"meaning" we all seek? Lance Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: [
1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times SOME shall DEPART from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Not all just some.
Seems to me JoE was a prime candidate for this.
He joined & left the methodist church
he was seduced by a "angelic"
There is no defense of a book (BoM) that has been changed countless times.
The book has been tampered with, it has been cooked.
There are no extant copies of the source documents. No BoM sites, NO BoM peoples names recorded in any history, places or documents secular or otherwise.
It was the invent
He was communicating to the other members of the Godhead
The TRI - part being created man in His image, as a TRI part being (1)Body, (2)soul & (3)spirit
1Thes 5 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the comin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:33:32
-0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Charles Perry Locke wrote:
>..the rapture..
is this biblical wording
now; what verse?
G
~ P 235
Naw,
Wm. Taylor wrote:
, I don't have a problem with it
myself, but I'm not all pruned up about this
it-has-to-come-from-the-bible stuff. What about you who are? Is that a
true and accurate statement concerning Jesus Christ?
Bill Taylor
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up [Greek, harpazo]together with them in the clouds, to meet the LORD in the air: and so shall we ever be with the LORD" 1Thessalonians 4:17"I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of th
Who did the RC Church burn during the dark ages?
Bible believing christians were never in short supply for torches
You are totally leaving out the Waldenses, Anabaptists & Albigenses
How do they fit in your scheme of things?
Why did they keep getting slaughtered?
Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
So many questions and controversies over doctrine?
That is why we need JoE?
Seems to me with over 200 offshoots of the Branches of the RESTORATION, something has gone seriously wrong!Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
True Christianity was NEVER lost
Mt 16:18 And I say also unt
Welcome to TT John Smithson, you write in part:
"I am educated by the Word; I am entertained by
history."
Truly wisdom from above,
judyt
God allows the devil to raise up hereticsto make his people
study
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In a message dated
3/9/2004 5:11:58 PM Pacific Standard Ti
What does the verse say dave? Try reading it real slow.
what does the word UNTILmean?
whom (Jesus) heaven must recieve UNTIL the times of restitution of all things.
Jesus is in heaven UNTIL
Are you claiming JOe restored ALL things?
Then where are the "LOST" books of the Bible?
Instead of
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
What I do find curious though is why you feel the Bible is inerrant,
when you apparently aren't even sure who penned parts of it. Who
do you think wrote Hebrews, Kevin? DavidM thought you might
possibly think Paul did so, but I would like to hear your thoug
John wrote:The
problem with "person" (and I have used this many more times than once)
gives us the impression
that know what God looks like.
DAVEH: Does not the Bible suggest what God looks like when we
are told Jesus is in his express image? (He 1:3) It seems
logical to
me that th
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Therefore, using the Jewish calendar, the first day of the month was
always a new moon and the middle of the month was the full moon.
It really is that simple. The problem is that you do not believe me,
so study some history about calendars like Blaine
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From: Lance Muir
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 10, 2004 06:11
Subject: David: Not a question but another quotation..
"Theological statements operate with what we may
call open concepts-concepts which, to be sure, must be closed on our side, for
we have t
I don't care what you call the rock.
The verse says the gates of hell will not prevail against the church
Thye other verse teaches the church will exist througout ALL AGES
Jesus must be mistaken because you know there was a TOTAL Apostacy
shortly after the last apostle died there were no more chr
Back in the old days, before computers to zip out copies. There were companies that printed forms. Sometimes forms would have a sort of part number. Would the form number printed on the bottom of the form, be legally binding? Would the form number be part of the terms of a contract?Dave <[EMAIL PRO
If only Judas could have endured one more moment?Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:> DAVEH: Sinners.yes. Lost?.Can one be lost if he endures to > the end?> > YES>DAVEH: Now let me ask you, Terry.Do you believe one can be saved if he does not endure to the end?-- ~~~
DAVEH: I hope you don't mind my intrusion, John. First.welcome to
TT and this thread.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with "person" (and I have used this many more times than
once) gives us the impression that know what God looks like.
DAVEH: Does not the Bible suggest wh
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
If I may add a comment, there is a difference between reformation
and restoration. The protestant movement was a reformation...JS'
movement was a restoration. I see them as quite different.
DAVEH: I understand that, Perry. I'm trying to figure out why they
went
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