Slade Henson wrote:
Try to convince you of that? Not likely.
:-)
Terry
You may be right because Ive an understanding of the
Midrashic Tradition. I am open, however to learn just as you are and we
both
have points we will hold to. I still enjoy our friendly [and often
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Michael D: Folks, here we go again.
Another mega threat is heading to the shores of the U.S.
Florida is
again in the
of this storm impacting you if we dont pray against it? Izzy
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Michael D: Izzy, I am glad to hear that you
John, Our best wishes to you and your
bride. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy. Izzy
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Michael D: Izzy, I am glad to hear that you have taken time to share your stand with us. Personally, I am rebuking the storm and speaking death
impacting you if we dont pray against it? Izzy
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Michael D: Izzy, I am glad to hear
Thanks for standing with us, Lance. Izzy
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To all 'storm-rebukers':After
have time. Do they produce
any fabrics there? Izzy
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Michael D: Keep
] Christians' authority over nature Michael D: Izzy, I am glad to hear that you have taken time to share your stand with us. Personally, I am rebuking the storm and speaking death to it. I am not getting a clear witness from the Holy Spirit about it dying, but I am trying to push the envelope. I
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Slade Henson wrote:
Slade hears Terry say: Then you do feel
Thank you, John, for your kind words.
Todah
slade
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Michael D: Folks, here we go again. Another mega threat is heading to the shores of the U.
against it? Izzy
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Michael D: Izzy, I am glad to hear that
you have taken time
Terry, Slade, Izzy(?) and who else:
My wife and I will offer a few words for you this weekend while we celebrate our fourth year together somewhere over on the coast. Yes, as we wake up on Saturday and Sunday mornings, walk out onto the balcony overlooking the Pacific ocean, watch the Sun rise
Michael D: Folks, here we go again. Another mega threat is heading to the shores of the U.S. Florida is again in the projected firing line. I really hope that folks will take the things that I have been trying to convey seriously. Last week, twice I felt the Spirit of the Lord witness to me that
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Michael D: Folks, here we go again.
Another mega threat is heading to the shores of the U.S. Florida is again in the projected firing
line. I really
?
-- slade
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Slade Henson wrote:
Terry
says
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Well, after weeks of silence, we have Perry back -- and they say there is no resurrection from the dead !!!
JD
Just for the record -- I meant the above in a good way. Your response seems to say that you
apologize for the confusing nature of the response.
Perry
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[EMAIL
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John,
I took no offense whatsoever. With my "baptism for the dead" response I
was actually poking a little fun at DaveH, and LDS in general, since he and
I have recently discussed the verses that I
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Slade Henson wrote:
Again, perhaps you need to reread that verse in II
Corinthians 5.8 and pay attention to the wording. Let me give it to you here
We
Slade Henson wrote:
Slade
hears Terry say:
Then you do feel that to be
absent from the body is
to be present with the Lord? Or do you just take this to be wishful
thinking on the part of Paul?
slade
speaks thus:
I wish that if/when God
causes my body to rest
Remember, Jesus is looking
for man's will. That's the only way God get's His will done.
You seem to keep saying "Blessed are they that take control". If this
is correct, how does it fit with "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for
THEIRS is the kingdom"? How can it be proper to seek
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Perry, Why are you hanging low? We miss you! Izzy
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Have you noticed that DavidM has abandoned us, too? Should we start feeling
like orphans? Izzy
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jt: True Jesus came to do good and to heal ALL who are oppressed of the devil. I know faith is important but spiritual discernment is vital also Michael. If the enemy has a toehold or doorpoint in our lives with our consent then God's hands are tied in that area.
I agree. That's where depending
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Slade Henson wrote:
Terry says. Jesus told the thief on the cross that He would be in
Paradise the same day he died
Slade
says I guess I dont need to ask how you interpret Luke 23:43
He
replied, Truly I tell you today you will be with me
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John,
Even the LDS believe in the resurrection, else what shall they do which
are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then
baptized for the dead?
I have been present, but
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To Slade I would say that the second choice had never before occured to me. If to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, then the first option would be the correct rendering.
Slade Henson wrote:
Again, perhaps you need
to reread that verse in II Corinthians 5.8 and
pay attention to the wording. Let me give it to you here
We
are confident, I
say,
and willing rather to
be absent
from the body, and to be present with the Lord
This
is
Terry Clifton wrote:
The
common thinking on this is that the first heaven is the
atmosphere, the second heaven is the stratosphere, and the third heaven
is way out there, where the Lord sits at the right hand of God.
Terry
DAVEH: Is that something you've learned from the
Terry,
Casting out demons is a simple thing that
Believers should do as a matter of course whenever necessary. You dont
cast out demons from everyone, as those who wish to have demons
and have invited them in will not be better off if you cast them outthe house
will be swept clean
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Terry,
Casting out
demons is a simple thing that
Believers should do as a matter of course whenever necessary. You
dont
cast out demons from everyone, as those who wish to have demons
and have invited them in will not be better off if you cast
Can you expand on this idea. While I agree that
demons surround us, I have only seen two persons who I was absolutely certain
were possessed. I did not feel called to try to eliminate the problem in
one, and though I prayed for and talked with the other, I made no attempt to
cast
at). Sorry Iz but, you brought it up.
I appreciated all the rest of what you had to
say.
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Can you expand
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Iz:You draw me out! Bush's 'twinkle'
may well be due to deceipt. (See the House of Bush/The House of Saud). The
'flatness' in Kerry's eyes may well be due to a rather poor choice re: his
second wife. This poor jerk is saddled
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Lance, Perhaps its
time for you to take a look in the mirrorhow are your eyes looking? (Re:
Kerrys wife: birds of a feather flock together.)
Izzy
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Judy Taylor wrote:
That may seem odd to some, since even unsaved people have cast
out demons in Jesus' name, but I have no problem with it, nor do I
think it makes me less of a Christian. If the Spirit does not lead me,
I do not try to function on my own in matters
ShieldsFamily wrote:
<>When
we moved into this house, which is 99
years old, it had at least one ghost (demonic activity). The
first owner, Captain ODay, had given his son a chemistry set for
Christmas. The boy had been playing with it on the 3rd
Lance, Scary experience, huh? J Im so
sorry you cant vote in America.
(NOT!) Izzy
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WHOOEE!!! I love you Sis, but you been watchin'
too many baton twirlers.
Jesus told the thief on the cross that He would be in Paradise
the same day he died.
He spoke of the rich man who planned to build more barns to hold his stuff, but
instead he died that night and opened his eyes
will be with me in Paradise.
-- slade
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ShieldsFamily wrote:
When we
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We have a couple in our home church who have a son who is a missionary in Africa. The son quite often reports miracles of healing or casting out demons in that theater, and I have no valid reason to doubt
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C. Tim Winkley, Oh dear! Im afraid you come on at just
the wrong moment
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Slade Henson wrote:
Terry
says. Jesus told the thief on the cross that He
would be in
Paradise the same day he died
Slade says I
guess I dont need to ask
how you interpret Luke 23:43
He replied,
Truly I tell you today you will be with me in Paradise.
He
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John, There was a really neat guy (named Woodward?) on TT several months to a year ago who believed home church was the only way to go. I agree it is the best if you can find one. My happiest church memories
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Michael D: Judy touched on much that I would offer in
response to the questions asked. You see, all through Jesus' walk on earth He
kept asking, where is your faith; oh ye of little
Judy Taylor wrote:
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=?iso-8859-1?q?michael=20douglas?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Faith can move mountains. Too often, though, we
settle for molehills and even pebbles.
<>
Michael D: The biggest problem God has
is not as much with
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:59:43 -0400 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our faith. Faith is a gift
from God, not something that man controls.
He gives as He sees fit to give. Some get more than others. All
get enough to live by. Working
Judy Taylor wrote:
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writes:
Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our faith. Faith is
a gift from God, not something that man controls.
He gives as He sees fit to give. Some get more than others.
All
Terry asks: Any thoughts on this phenomenon?
slade comments: Could it simply be that those areas of
the world are not encumbered by philosophic restraints or intellectual bondage and
they expect more phenomenological experiences? Someone once said that God
responds to a person where
FOURTEEN THINGS THAT IT TOOK OVER 50 YEARS TO LEARN -
by Dave Barry
1. Never, under any circumstances, take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
2. If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not achieved,
and never will achieve, its full
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Remember
it is Jesus who said ...be it unto you according to Your
faith, not His power etc. When Jesus came down from the mount of
transfiguration and the father pleaded
Press, 2003)
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Well said, John. Though there is nothing at all wrong with going to God with your concerns, it is quite evident that the big picture is us serving God, not God serving us. Jesus said, "I must be about my
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Remember it is Jesus who
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Remember
it is Jesus who said ...be it unto you according to Your faith, not His power etc. When Jesus came down from the mount
Michael D: Judy touched on much that I would offer in response to the questions asked. You see, all through Jesus' walk on earth He kept asking, where is your faith; oh ye of little faith; how come you have no faith? and on and on and on. The biggest problem God has is not as much with whether it
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Jeff Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Michael,
I see that Slade has giving the forcast and coordinates so I will not bother. Weather of this nature is of concern to me as I have several friends and aquaintences in Florida and the surrounding Gulf states. Also,
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Remember it is Jesus who said ...be it unto you according to Your faith, not His power etc. When Jesus came down from the mount of transfiguration and the father pleaded with Him to heal his son in this
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Jesus became
like us so that we could become like Him. Izzy
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
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If you
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I think you have misspoken --
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John
I didnt say BECOME Him. J Iz
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Lance Muir wrote:
Iz:you may need
jt: Let me change that to "some sort of superstitious
thing" -My belief doesn't go this far
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John: When baseball season comes on, and
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DAVEH: AMENto both of your comments.
Trouble maker ;-)
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Lance Muir wrote:
Iz:you
may need to nuance or, clarify a bit so as not to
elicit too resounding an Amen from DaveH.
DAVEH: AMENto
both of your
comments.
- Original Message
Shame
on you. If you would sit down and really take a good long look at
both passages, you would, I think, see why I say some of the things I
say.
But to answer your question, Paul is not talking about the Old Law in
Ro 2:12 --16 except to use it as an illustration that any law is in
DAVEH: Hm..after thinking about it, Izzy.I've got a better
reply than my earlier comment.
ShieldsFamily wrote:
I didnt say
BECOME Him. J Iz
DAVEH: Nor did I, Izzy. As the Bible teaches though, it is our
destiny to become one WITH
DaveH, what do you think that means? Izzy
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DAVEH: Hm..after thinking
in the 'older' Testament. Look at the paragraph preceding the decalogue.
The sainted, much maligned, much missed Bill Taylor outlined all of this in some
detail.
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les?
If I may translate:
The parables are the Gospel for Dummies who dont get it.
Izzy
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Lance, Why?
Scripturally, what basis do you
John:Yes indeed.
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First
Adam = fallen fleshSecond
Did I detect a smile in your words there Judy? Good
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Jeff:Sticking to the Bible doctrine are not
mutually exclusive. You do know that, right?
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Terry
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Why not check out perichoresis site? Things can be read and heard. Following that 'one' could offer an informed opinion. (excluding Judy, of course as she has written off an Incarnational/Trinitarian
Smits:Just do a google search.
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Michael D, Would you mind telling us what
the 20 yr old root was, to give us a concrete example? Izzy
Please
bear with me for an example, Jeff. A close brother in Christ was going through
some devasting business failures for seemingly no reason (for the scale
involved). I
as ever
interceding for us and enabling us to live sinlessly. Izzy
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Izzy, have you read
Then you should call yourself Sunshine.
Izzy
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John, Im just trying to hammer out a definition here.
Do you or dont you agree that when Paul was saying Law he was speaking of
the OT Commandments??? Im too busy to curl up
Iz:No I'm not. (keepin 'em short)
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John, Paul was
referring to the OT Law (or sometimes Talmud law
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John, Thank you for
clarifying. Kruger sees the cross (and forgiveness it provides) simply
as fringe benefits of the gospel; this is the centerpiece of every
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As I read you it is apparent that your own sense of 'right
and wrong' is informed by family, society and religious tradition.I do believe
that God, Who embodies 'right wrong' ontologically, does break
Jesus became like us so that we could
become like Him. Izzy
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Second Adam
'mature' believer.
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christians'
authority over nature
Duh! Like, I know
that, Lance. But do you? Iz
Iz:No it (the cross) is not central
Iz:you may need to nuance or, clarify a bit so as
not to elicit too resounding an Amen from DaveH.
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christians'
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AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christians'
authority over nature (Romans 1.12-16)
As I read you it is apparent that
your own sense of 'right and wrong' is informed by family, society and
religious
Kool again
Smittyson
In a message dated 8/21/2004 3:15:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John:Yes indeed.
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In a message dated 8/21/2004 5:48:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John: When baseball season comes on, and I coach kids baseball, I often wear the same hat in exactly the same way every time we have a game. When I do not or cannot follow this pattern of activity, I feel
In a message dated 8/21/2004 5:59:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Second Adam = Assumption of first Adam's nature
jt: Where in all of scripture is the basis for the above presumption? He took upon Himself the "form" of man
which is
In a message dated 8/21/2004 8:33:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Smits:Just do a google search.
Se.
Juan
In a message dated 8/21/2004 9:00:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No need for Toronto. Just bring in Jimmy Carter..He's got a Nobel prize you know!!
Yeah, he brought peace to Middle East.
JD
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:05:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, Thank you for clarifying. Kruger sees the cross (and forgiveness it provides) simply as fringe benefits of the gospel; this is the centerpiece of every cult.
I have not read this in Kruger. I no
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:18:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Iz:No it (the cross) is not central! What IS central is WHO is on the cross. But, what about that which preceded it (His life) and, followed it (death, descent, resurrection ascent)???Hmm?
I think you have misspoken --
In a message dated 8/21/2004 11:10:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, Paul was referring to the OT Law (or sometimes Talmud law) whenever he referenced the Law. Most early Christians were Jews, well associated with the Law. Yes, but he
: RE: [TruthTalk] Christians'
authority over nature
I only
wish we could get commentary from Slade and David Miller on this
scripture. I think you would find a whole different set of eyes seeing
the meaning here. Izzy
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