Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: In GREEN. ShieldsFamily wrote: Izzy in red. DAVEH: Thanx for your frank thoughts, Izzy. I do find it interesting that you don't read my theological posts defending LDS theology, yet you expect me to open my mind to those trying to convert me from

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread Terry Clifton
Kevin Deegan wrote: Love is NOT avoidance of offence == No doubt this is true. Do you take this to mean that it is good to be offensive? -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread Terry Clifton
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 6:35 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Judy, I read

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
]] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:24 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Jer But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself DAVEH: In GREEN.ShieldsFamily wrote: Izzy in red. DAVEH: Thanx for your frank thoughts, Izzy. I do find it interesting that you don't read my

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
)and to this doom they were also appointed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 5:54 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread Terry Clifton
Far from it, my friend. There are things I know and I am sure that I know I know. Then there are things I am pretty well convinced that are true, but am open to correction if someone can show me otherwise. I try to be dogmatic only where the first are concerned. Oh yeah, forgot to mention;

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
No problemo, DaveO. Even my own halo slips a bit now and then. :-) iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave HansenSent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:12 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
nnglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:53:47 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself SIMPLE Judge RIGHTEOUS judgement![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you believe that there is a "judgmentalism" that is sinful? If so, how do

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread Judy Taylor
I must have missed the letter from the doctor at the Astrodome, do you still have it Izzy cause I'd like to see it? I figure a lot of it was anger taken out on the astrodome and those who were trying to help them. I've heard a lot of talk about the culture of poverty that Welfare States

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
NoTerry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Deegan wrote: Love is NOT avoidance of offence ==No doubt this is true. Do you take this to mean that it is good to be offensive? --"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Judy, I read these notes hoping to glean a gem now and then and when I have read them I delete them. I have none of your old information to give you an example, but I promise to let you know the next time

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself I must have missed the letter from the doctor at the Astrodome, do you still have it Izzy cause I'd like to see it? I figure a lot

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:32 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Judy and Terry, I guess Im having a senior moment because I dont remember reading or sending such article. I can

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread knpraise
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:47:57 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Please change the Subject line to reflect "Joke of the Day". ROFL! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PRO

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 1:32 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself I must have missed the letter from the doctor at the Astrodome, do you

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
that you can deal with it. izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:46 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself DAVEH: Rest assured Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:45:32 -0700 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Rest assured Judy, I have no illusions about other TTers' thoughts about me being deceived. Nor am I offended that you or anybody else believe such. I just appreciate your forthrightness in discussing

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Aren't all the CULTists nice polite? Like Jim Jones, Marshall Applegate (UFO cult) and Hinckley. Nice Polite MINISTERS of RIGHTeousness! How else canthe Fox get appointed to"guard" the henhouse?The devil does not wear a redsuit with a pitchfork! And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Stay tuned. Maybe you can learn from observing others, possibly Dave Hansen.===Judy Taylor wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:33:59 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
A scary admission that needscorrecting AND the continued patient forgiveness of the Lord. I am saying that if you cannot agree, consider that they are being sincere even if they are in error, and with that in mind, very politely ask questions that will help them understand better as well as

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Let's share Could you please pass the poison?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed the original post by Terry. Good words for us all. I do believethis all goes to why we are here -- on TT. to learn, share

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Terry Clifton
Kevin, it was, in my opinion, mean to cast Dave as a dispenser of spiritual poison and it was mean to suggest that I would approve of it if he did. Dave is usually on the learning end of these discussions. He seldom tries to teach, and when he does, he is teaching what he honestly believes,

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Thanx for your frank thoughts, Izzy. I do find it interesting that you don't read my theological posts defending LDS theology, yet you expect me to open my mind to those trying to convert me from Mormonism. Do you understand why that would strike me as a bit odd? I am also amazed

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:12:56 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Let's share Could you please pass the poison?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed the original post by Terry. Good

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Jer But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.Did JT say he was a "willing servant of Satan"? Are you saying JT "HATES" DH, she is unloving? I do not think JT or

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Izzy in red. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:25 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself DAVEH: Thanx for your frank

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
. But of course, none of this is intentional. Its just spiritual. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:24 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
JD once more you have managed to cut and past so that this thread appears to be saying something other than what I did say.Let me put it another way - I noted that Izzy did very well with Bill by using questionsuntil they reached an impasse andBill did not becomeoffended - neither did he

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Makes no sense to me Terry because as I said before I am not into sarcasm but it seems as though I am talking to a wall because you go right on as though I had not said a thing. Does the intent of the author matter?? Or is a misguided perception the most important thing?? On Tue, 13 Sep

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Terry Clifton
Correction Iz. I am not at odds with anyone, and I do not feel sorry for Dave unless you mean that I am sorry that he cannot see the truth. The only reason his name came up was as an example of someone who knew how to communicate in a courteous adult manner. The content of his responses was

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:25:50 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Kevin, it was, in my opinion, mean to cast Dave as a dispenser of spiritual poison and it was mean to suggest that I would approve of it if he did. Dave is usually

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
--From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Stop being so JUDGEmental! Is that what your saying? Or doing?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let m

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Correction Iz. I am not at odds with anyone, and I do not feel sorry for Dave unless you mean that I am sorry that he cannot see the truth. The only reason his name came up was as an example of someone who knew how to communicate

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Terry Clifton
If I am misreading what you have been writing lately, I offer a sincere apology, but about all I have seen recently appeared to be judgmental aand sarcastic. Guess I will just have to take your word for it. Terry Judy Taylor wrote: Makes no sense to me Terry because as I said

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
12 Sep 2005 16:07:52 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Stay tuned. Maybe you can learn from observing others, possibly Dave Hansen.===Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
You must be speaking of theBob Dylan threadbecause that is about all we've been discussing lately. Do you believe evaluating public ministry is judgmental Terry?Iand am not comfortable trading personal insults which is what some of the responses resorted to.If you think I was sarcastic

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:43:11 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself JD once more you have managed to cut and past so that this thread appears to be saying something other than what I did

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:14:13 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself I have defined it JD, I have repeatedly pointed it out when youparticipate

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
cannot come to terms on such a basic consideration? JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Stop being so JUDGE

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
erms on such a basic consideration? JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Stop being so JUDGEmental! Is t

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Better to have divisions than evil uniformity![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you believe that there is a "judgmentalism" that is sinful? If so, how do you definethis "judgmentalism." Apparent

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
5 16:53:47 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself SIMPLE Judge RIGHTEOUS judgement![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you believe that there is a "judgmentalism" that is sinful? If so, how do you definethis "judgmentalism."

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Sep 2005 19:14:13 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself I have defined it JD, I have repeatedly pointed it out when youparticipate withit On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:07:30 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: do you

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:53:47 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself SIMPLE Judge RIGHTEOUS judgement![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you believe that there is a "judgmentalism" that is sinful? If so, h

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
I would like to see your examples also. NO FEAR, deleted old posts? Just check here: http://www.mail-archive.com/truthtalk@mail.innglory.org/ Now we all can see the wicked deeds! Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, I read these notes hoping to glean a gem now and then and when I have

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
e-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:51:56 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Better to have divisions than evil uniformity![EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
. Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:51:56 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Better to have divisions than evil uniformity![EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
3 Sep 2005 19:14:13 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself I have defined it JD, I have repeatedly pointed it out when youparticipate withit On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:07:30 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: do you believe that there is a &quo

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
lory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:07:26 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself I've yet to have a fit over anything here - which shows how dislocated you are JD On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:41:44 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
DT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Better to have divisions than evil uniformity![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do you believe that there is a "judgmentalism" that is sinful? If so, how do you definethis "judgmentalism."

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:07:52 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Stay tuned. Maybe you can learn from observing

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
Now, lookup "love of the brethren." JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:16:02 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Jd -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:51:56 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Better to have divisions than evil

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread knpraise
(PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Are all persons your brethren?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, lookup "love of the brethren." JD-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@juno.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc:

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Dave Hansen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:24 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Jer But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-13 Thread Dave Hansen
he cannot see the truth. DAVEH: You say that as though you have a corner on the truth market, Terry. Do you believe there are any TTers who do not hold at least some theological misconceptions? Terry Clifton wrote: Correction Iz. I am not at odds with anyone, and I do not feel sorry

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Lance Muir
I don't possess a 1000 words. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: September 12, 2005 06:38 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself So how many years do you

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2005-09-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
100 would be even better. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:43 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself I don't

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2005-09-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Also up early. I'm listening to a course entitled 'Studies on the Sermon on the Mount by Darrell Johnson. One of the books, along with the Bible of course, that he requires to be read

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Lance Muir
Will you settle for four? Blesses are those who'... - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: September 12, 2005 06:48 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself 100 would

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Terry Clifton
I have two men that are medically retired that hang around my shop,Judy. Both claim to be Christians and there is evidence to support their claims. A couple of days ago they got into a discussion over whether one of them was employable. The discussion lead to an arguement and now niether of

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Lance Muir
AMEN TERRY!! - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: September 12, 2005 09:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself I have two men that are medically retired that hang around my

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2005-09-12 Thread knpraise
nnglory.orgSent: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 04:46:11 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself JUDGMENTALISM!!! On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:03:01 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not a Christian attitude. Jd-Original Message-From: ShieldsFam

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Terry Clifton I have two men that are medically retired that hang around my shop, Judy. Both claim to be Christians and there is evidence to support their claims. I'm curious about the "evidence" Terry because forgiving others is paramount. For instance

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Oophs! It was supposed to be Mark 11:26; sorry about that. On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:30:11 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Terry Clifton I have two men that are medically retired that hang around my shop, Judy. Both claim to be Christians and

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Terry Clifton
I think we could start by being graceful, showing grace rather than sarcasm, being more concerned about loving our neighbor or our enemy than we are about pointing out errors in what they believe. I am not suggesting that you adopt their position or that you compromise what you believe. I am

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:33:59 -0500 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think we could start by being graceful, showing grace rather than sarcasm, being more concerned about loving our neighbor or our enemy than we are about pointing out errors in what they believe. I am not

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Judy Taylor
It's not my heart to be mean Terry - I just thought it needed to be said and I put it in the kindest way I know. I like DaveH too but reality tells mehe is deceived. Is there another way to say it? I know you don't think we shouldignore it?. On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:04:52 -0500 Terry Clifton

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread knpraise
of believers. Such talk is unproductive. Thanks for the words. JD-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton wabbits1234@earthlink.netTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:07:52 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Stay

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread knpraise
We serve a God's witness at all times. JD-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:45:41 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself If you were lost and your

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread knpraise
Yikes !-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:26:10 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Let's get real here Terry ... Satan

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-12 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Rest assured Judy, I have no illusions about other TTers' thoughts about me being deceived. Nor am I offended that you or anybody else believe such. I just appreciate your forthrightness in discussing it openly, and without malice. Though your message may be harsh, you did try to frame

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 10:27 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself no duh; now all

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical confusion - Noone knows, least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
You know what they say: If you were accused to being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:34 AM To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-11 Thread knpraise
I do not see the point of this discussion. It is so easy to take statements out of context and make them fit one'spersonal bias. The only opinion that really matters here is God's -- and no one on this forum rises to that level of divinity. Judy -- were you going to answer the request topresent

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-11 Thread knpraise
Not a Christian attitude. Jd-Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 07:33:40 -0500Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself [Image removed] Izzy From: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dylan himself Not a Christian attitude. Jd -Original Message- From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 07:33:40 -0500 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Is that a typo, Izzy? Did you instead mean to say. Why are people like me YO-YOs? :-D ShieldsFamily wrote: LOL! Another news flash. What are people like me IYO? iz -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Judy Taylor
And they never will know Christ so long as they are looking to Dylan and his own personal confusion for wisdom -rather than to the ingrafted Word which is able to save their souls - for as one of his concert attending fans writes: "Bob Dylan Once said, when commenting on one of his

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread ttxpress
what did he say? On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 03:34:51 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Bob Dylan Once said..." (Or something along those lines),

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Good one, jt! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:44 AM To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself Oh DaveH, You do like to

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
No. J iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:19 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself DAVEH: Is that a typo, Izzy

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2005-09-10 Thread ttxpress
somenever know Christ even while they're lookingat Scripture On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 03:34:51 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..[ppl] never will know Christ so long as they are looking to Dylan

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Well G, it's like Clairol hair coloring - noone seems to know for sure and the best one can hope for is some kind of speculation. On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:40:58 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what did he say? On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 03:34:51 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread ttxpress
it's your quote, your effort to discredit certain ppl/ideas, it's your responsibility which actually requires some education unless you prefer yourignorance--isn't it safer to say nowthat in your view yourwisdom's rooted in your ignorance? On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:27:08 -0400 Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Here we go - position, pride, fleshly achievement ... this is what nauseates me (JD take note) It is the circumcision who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have NO CONFIDENCE in the flesh who make it "g" - from your exalted vantage point it would be those with wisdom

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Dave Hansen
:-D :-D :-D Judy Taylor wrote: Oh DaveH, You do like to walk on the edge at times don't you? ... If I were Izzy I might send you this attachment :) jt DAVEH: Is that a typo, Izzy? Did you instead mean to say. Why are people like me YO-YOs? :-D

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread ttxpress
tell us whatBob Dylansaid On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:40:22 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where did you learn to cut and paste Gary? - your skill at this is as great asany I've seen so far. You manage to muddle everything to the point that noone knows who said what

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Judy Taylor
I'm not interested in what he said Gary - from what I've been reading this is your forte. I want to read words that are Spirit and Life - rather than the confused ramblings of one Robert Zimmerman whose bio calls hima Jewish minstrel. On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:57:05 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:57:05 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tell us whatBob Dylansaid Glad to - read on. From my hippie days prior to conversion in 1973, I remember rock legend Bob Dylan (1941- ) (real name Robert Zimmerman) very well. It

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread ttxpress
lol On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:05:18 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:57:05 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tell us whatBob Dylansaid Glad to - read on. (David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Looks as though you are smoking some of the same stuff as your mentor ... Should cause us to weep and to pray for him. because obviously he has returned to the mire and isin a mess. On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:07:56 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: lol On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:05:18 -0400

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2005-09-10 Thread ttxpress
theactual evidence of mire hereis thedripping sound of acidfrom the tip of your treacherous tongue On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:20:14 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks as though you are smoking some of the same stuff as your mentor ... Should cause us to weep and to pray

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2005-09-10 Thread ttxpress
ftr, that isn't Bob Dylan speaking, below--that's David Cloud's FB rhetoric, the stuff that ignorancethrives on On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:20:14 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks as though you are smoking some of the same stuff as your mentor ... Should cause us to weep

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Just can't bring yourself todeal with the facts can you Gary? And when you don't like the message - just kill the messenger and relax with what you dolike.. On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:31:03 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: theactual evidence of mire hereis thedripping sound of acidfrom

RE: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Is this true, Gary? If so, then he is probably fallen away, wouldnt you say? Or is this a false report IYO? If so, can you give us any statement from BDylan to the contrary? iz An article in the San Luis Obispo (California) Register for March 16, 1983, quoted Dylan as

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread ttxpress
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:47:09 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And when you don't like the message.. try singing--this has a great tune, a great message: There was _[the] wicked messenger_From Eli he did come,With a mind that multipliedThe smallest matter.When

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-10 Thread Judy Taylor
FTR when it is a direct quote it is Dylan speaking ie: Dylans testimony was as follows: One thing led to another ... until I had this feeling, this vision and feeling. I truly had a born-again experience, if you want to call it that. Its an over-used term, but its something that people can

Re: [TruthTalk] Musical Confusion - Noone knows least of all Dylan himself

2005-09-09 Thread ttxpress
it's me--i have the problems--this admissionis important to note; its a crucial confession whichsevers my relationship with you until you accept it, me on what truthful basis shall i accept you? On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:44:45 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tell me I have a

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