[TruthTalk] 2 value systems clash on Thanksgiving

2003-11-27 Thread ShieldsFamily
2 value systems clash on Thanksgiving: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35837 -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts

RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-11-28 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carrolll Moore If one is prayed up-asking God to lead us with the place and give us utterance-Then we are where we are suppose to be ,saying what we are suppose to say. I only hope that those

[TruthTalk] 10 Commandments lawsuit

2003-12-02 Thread ShieldsFamily
Former Mormon sues to remove 10 Commandments in Seattle: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/150504_ccard01.html -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not

[TruthTalk] Roy Moore files appeal

2003-12-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Roy Moore files appeal: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35927 -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list,

[TruthTalk] Church doesn't think like Jesus

2003-12-03 Thread ShieldsFamily
Church doesn't think like Jesus: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35926 -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from

[TruthTalk] An interesting letter from a Democrat...

2003-12-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Now here's an interesting article by a democrat. Zell Miller is a Democratic Senator from the state of Georgia. This was published in the Wall Street Journal on Nov 3, 2003, and is must reading for anyone who intends to cast any vote in any primary or general election in

RE: [TruthTalk] Two things

2003-12-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, I think it is very unthoughtful of you to try to confuse the poor mormons with the facts. On the other hand, that has not bothered them much so far. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

RE: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
I think we should hold out until DaveH decides to send us an authentic photo of himself in his cute skivvies. (Dean's photo might be a bit too scary, anyway.) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Thursday, December 04,

[TruthTalk] Esau spirit?

2003-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, You'd better be careful. I got reprimanded several years on TT ago for telling a certain mormon that he needs to stop his pretences and just get on his knees and repent and get saved. So I just dont interact with them anymore, as I dont have the freedom to cut to the bottom line and

RE: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees

2003-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Laura, I would like to hear you disprove what Marlin says rather than just laugh it off. If it is possible that this is true, then shouldnt we all look into the ramifications? Do you know it not to be true? Even if it is true, does that automatically mean that the Lord disproves of us

[TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day

2003-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, as I said before I read all of this, Be careful. Another deceptive ploy of the mormon spirit is to be so sweet that it turns your brethren against you. If you are discerning enough to be aware of this, you are considered to be mean-spirited. Izzy -Original Message- From:

RE: [TruthTalk] Two things

2003-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, Ive had non-stop houseguests for the past month, so am now trying to go back and catch up a bit. I really liked your post herequite excellent. However, Im wondering; does the below statement refer to me? Maybe not. But, if so, what do you know about what I do other than stay at

[TruthTalk] E-mail from a Captain in Iraq

2003-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- Subject: FW: E-mail from a Captain in Iraq (Thanks to Sam Wainscott, Dayton VetRep) An Email from a Captain in Iraq We knew there was a dinner planned with ambassador Bremer and LTG Sanchez. There were 600 seats available and all the units in the division

RE: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees

2003-12-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Laura, Can we hold off on the discussion of nativity sets until we have resolved this Christmas tree issue first? Do you really think that what is pagan for some may not be pagan for others??? Isnt this a classic example of humanistic moral relativism? The main question is not what

[TruthTalk] Judas?

2003-12-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Kevin, I would not consider DaveH to be TTs Judas by any means. He has been here longer than almost anyone else, and at least shows an openess to give and take discussions, unlike some. He takes a lot more guff than he dishes out, I must admit!!! I hope he doesnt mind us discussing him

RE: [TruthTalk] Two things

2003-12-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, Just ask your sweet wife all about itIm sure she can clue you in. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Two things

RE: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
LOL! Cute test, Terry. Was the last question supposed to be, Was there a Christmas tree all lit up with presents underneath when the wise men arrived at the manger? J Im still wondering how we are supposed to figure out which myth/story explains the REAL origin of the Christmas tree. And

RE: [TruthTalk] Christmas trees

2003-12-06 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi Bruce, It's so good to hear from you again! I think you have made a good point about Christmas trees. Rom 14 shows us clearly that, although some things are not innately sinful in themselves, if one does not have a clear conscience about it, you just should not do it. And we shouldn't go

RE: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, I think someone must have left that part out of my Biblehuh? By the way, are you currently working on a rifle for anyone? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 11:50 PM To:

[TruthTalk] The Last Samurai

2003-12-07 Thread ShieldsFamily
TTers, Yesterday my Beloved and I went to see the movie The Last Samurai. It was R rated for lots of violence, and I had to keep my eyes closed now and then because of that. But, for those of you who dont object to secular movies, and can stomach gory war scenes, I would encourage you

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
g, have you ever been baptized? If so, were you immersed? (Are you capable of answering these yes/no questions intelligibly?) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:16 PM To:

RE: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-09 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, I must have missed it; which scripture says Mary and Joseph were poor? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blaine R Borrowman Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

RE: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, Very interesting. I always thought she brought them because of the scripture below. And it seemed that we just assumed they were poor. (When I grew up we considered anyone who could afford his own business to be well off. J) Do you think they were still poor after receiving the

RE: [TruthTalk] Why we use temple garments

2003-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
ODaveH censorship! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Why we use temple garments Blaine R Borrowman wrote: If truth were to

RE: [TruthTalk] The Value of Sin?

2003-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
FYI, If the Father was in heaven, and Jesus/Father are One; then the thief on the cross could have been with Jesus/Father in heaven that day. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10,

[TruthTalk] The Last Samurai

2003-12-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
Bill OReillys Talking Points message about movie, The Last Samurai: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105242,00.html

RE: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
LOL! Perhaps turtle is a bad translation. Maybe turtledove??? Any Hebrew scholars out there? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees

2003-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
g, I am still waiting to hearwere you ever baptized? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

RE: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees

2003-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees 'baptized'? On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:59:56 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: g, I am still waiting to hearwere you ever baptized? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
. It is ,as you surmise, turtledove. Cannot remember just where, maybe in Nahum, but there is a line in the Bible that says, and the voice of the turtle will be heard throughout the land. It meant dove there too. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees/'baptIZed'

2003-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees/'baptIZed' what's a sacrament? how does 'baptized' fall into that category? On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 21:48:21 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YesI assume you have heard of the word? Have you been? Yes or No__ Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees/'baptIZed'

2003-12-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
: [TruthTalk] Christmas Trees/'baptIZed' you're pretty smart, i guess On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:05:42 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suspected that you would be cagey about answering this question, g. That speaks for itself. Izzy -Original Message- From

[TruthTalk] A poem by Judge Roy Moore

2003-12-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Subject: A poem by Judge Roy Moore Supposedly, the following is a poem written by Judge Roy Moore from Alabama. Judge Moore was recently sued by the ACLU for displaying the Ten Commandments in his courtroom. AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL America the Beautiful, or so you used to be. Land

RE: [TruthTalk] LDS Prophet's Miracle of Forgiveness

2003-12-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- I understand that preaching to a group is different than witnessing one on one, if that was your question. It would be refreshing to see someone preach with a beer in his hand. Our Savior taught on at least one occasion while drinking

[TruthTalk] Saddam is apprehended--PTL

2003-12-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
My older son phoned us this morning to alert us to the good news that Saddam Hussein has been taken into custody. I just want to praise our Lord God for this. Let us all humble ourselves today and thank Him, and pray for true justice to be done. Let us also pray continually for protection

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw:

2003-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Isnt it nice to finally have a straight shooter in the White House. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Fw: Hey Izzy:

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, DaveHdont go!!! Thered be nothing left of me but whiskers!!! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of

RE: **Possible_Spam** Re: [TruthTalk] TEST

2003-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, dont worryI have no illusions about why DaveH is here on TT. But one can always hope it will bite him in the (keister). J I gave up trying to reason with the man long ago (but not praying for him!), but he does supply much good-natured comic relief. Izzy -Original

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, thus saith the Lord (via Izzy the Cat): Go forth and preach, Brother! J -Original Message- As to SLC. I appreciate the invitation, and I mean no disrespect, but I have to be led by the Lord, not by men, and the Lord has never told me to preach. If

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
FYI, that's just another mormon computer trouble trick they play when the heat gets too uncomfortable around here! :-) (Next DaveH will say his computer is on the fritz!!! DaveH, where are your friend when you really need them?) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave DAVEH: Thanx for the invitation Ruben, but I'm not much for blood sports. I go to the games to watch the cheerleaders :-) Careful, DaveHI think thats what led poor JS into those polygamy

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ruben, Yes I do believe in the Bible more than warm and fuzzy Girl Scout campfire songs. J Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irebukeu Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- Dean writes: Is it me or does it seem strange that a Christian can run a board that is non- Christian. To be non-Christian is to be non-Godly-are we here in the room non-Godly ( put your hands down Mormons-I wasn't only talking to you)?Could Christ run a

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
ROFL!!! I just knew it! Perhaps you have mormon computers??? LOL Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism ShieldsFamily

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, Perry, youre going to make his computer go down faster than he planned! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] just the

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Terry, can you tell us how your wife prevailed with you? (She probably just dazzled you with her beauty!) Izzy -Original Message- I had a lot of people give up on me too. Thank God my wife hung in there. Terry

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
So, Blaine, where might we have seen you, other than on the wall at the post office? J Now we get the mormon sour grapes routine. Hey, I thought your computer was dead! LOL! Izzy -Original Message- Did you ever think maybe you do what you do because you are

[TruthTalk] Little Ears

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- Subject: FW: Little Ears When my twin daughters were young, I taught them to say this prayer before going to bed. As I listened outside their door, I could hear them say, Give us this steak and daily bread, and forgive us our mattresses. My husband and I always

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Ruben, Be sure to let us know when we can see the documentary. (I doubt it will be complimentary, knowing the liberal media!) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of irebukeu Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Omigosh! Is TT ready for TWO of us??? Wheres my catnip? Iz -Original Message- Dean writes: And Izzy-He has whiskers also:-)

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
:: http://poet235.com On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 15:35:31 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || DaveH, where are your friend[s] when you really need them? Izzy DAVEH: I've still got YOU, Izzy!!! Who needs friends when they have cats to keep them company! LOL

RE: [TruthTalk] fyi~g :: the devil's leavin' Africa and headin' to SLC

2003-12-16 Thread ShieldsFamily
Makes me really begin to wonder how many Mrs. Daveywakis there are out there! J Why is he so silent on this issue??? Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism 4 Dead part of gospel?

2003-12-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks so much for sharing your story with us. Isnt it neat; you were trapping lobsters while your wife was trapping you? The Lord works in mysterious ways. How wonderful He is!!! And what a pleasure to know you, Terry! Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [TruthTalk] Baptism

2003-12-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Baptism ShieldsFamily wrote: ROFL!!! I justknew it! Perhaps you have mormon computers??? LOL Izzy DAVEH: Yep.that's a fact. They seemingly run forever with little coaxing, even when ill. And they tirelessly battle heavy handed foes

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormons teach christian virtue?

2003-12-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
Sodomites want to be accepted as normal alsobut they still want their perversion. (They just want their perversion to be accepted.) Aint gonna happen here, DaveH. Izzy -Original Message- DAVEH: I do like being accepted as a Christian though.

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormons teach christian virtue?

2003-12-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormons teach christian virtue? ShieldsFamily wrote: Sodomites want to be accepted as normal alsobut

RE: [TruthTalk] Target Stores ..... FYI

2003-12-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
This is completely false. It is not loving to circulate slanderous stories prior to checking them out. See www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormons teach christian virtue?

2003-12-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
Oh, Dean, I can hear the mormons guffawing at that from here! NO WAY, Brother!!! ROFL!!! Izzy (who hisses at mormons who get too in my face!) -Original Message- Dean writes: It works the other way also-a piece of them will sink into you.

RE: **Possible_Spam** [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
Brother Dean, I understand your concerns for certain folks on TT who seem to be casual about their conversations with the mormons. However, most of us have a longer history here than you do, and so we know each other better than you yet know us. Most TTers are quite mature in their

RE: [TruthTalk] just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-17 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, I will let DaveH vouch for himself how much luck I have wished him. LOL! Izzy -Original Message- The wish of good luck had nothing to do with luck(True we Christian-who do not believe in luck) but it had to do with wishing them well in their evil works. For we will give

[TruthTalk] Interesting email about Iraq

2003-12-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Heres an interesting email I received about Iraq: Subject: IRAQ Just in case you might think of Iraq as merely an oil rich nation, ruled by an evil dictator for 30 years, whether it has been supporting terrorists or may not be very important, here are a few important facts

[TruthTalk] Guess who converted to Islam last night....

2003-12-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Guess who joined Louis Farrakhans flock: www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36207. Izzy

[TruthTalk] What do you do with a problem like the mormons?

2003-12-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Brother Dean, I appreciate your questions, which are legitimate. But Im not sure if you are speaking just to me, or to everyone on TT in general regarding these questions. Are you saying that I personally should get off of TT because there are mormons interacting on it? Or are you

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-18 Thread ShieldsFamily
Brother Dean, Okay, Im again asking you to spell this out in plain language. Are you saying that TT is satans domain, and that David Miller should never have set it up? This is what I hear you saying. If so, I will allow David Miller to respond. Are saying anyone who participates on TT

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dean, I have found that the big Liberals that I come in contact with in this community have a rabid hatred of all things truly good (such as family values and President Bush for example.) So I have an inkling of what you are up against. Would you mind explaining what warnings are there?

RE: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
I bet Blaine doesnt have more than one wife! Iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Perry Locke Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] I found it Blaine...but you lost it

[TruthTalk] Judge orders singing of Christmas carols

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Judge orders singing of Christmas carols: http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/03/12/44328079.shtml?Element_ID=44328079 -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)

[TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
Photo of ghost in Henry 8th castle: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031219/D7VHKHI81.html. How do you guys explain ghosts? Izzy -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle Photo of ghost in Henry 8th castle: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031219/D7VHKHI81.html. How do you guys explain ghosts? Izzy -- &quo

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
] On Behalf Of Dean Moore Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/20/2003 9:25:42 AM Subject

[TruthTalk] flu shot

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
David Miller, Just for the record, I never used to get the flu shot until after my Dad started getting one at the assisted living complex, and I would get one whenever he did with him. I had never gotten the flu since then. This year, due to guests and such, I couldn't get the shot on the day

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
David Miller, I must object. When I rebuked the mormons I think I did not personally attack, or flame, them. What I remember is that I just told them that they had no intention of learning anything, and were just manipulating everyone, and that they needed to cut the nonsense, and

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
5:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/20/2003 9:25:42 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

RE: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-20 Thread ShieldsFamily
The best argument I've heard yet for Believers to NOT have a Christmas tree. TPW, did you ever actually answer David Miller's question directly when he asked if you were the one who sent the lewd and threatening email regarding his daughter? Until you actually deny this I will not talk to you. You

RE: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle

2003-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
See red response below: Subject: [TruthTalk] Photo of ghost in Henry 8 castle From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, what do you mean, exactly, by familiar spirits? Why would a demon from a dead person hang around imitating them for centuries? Certainly

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
Kevin, Thats why LDS (and Scientologists) have secret ceremonies, etc. If the undoctrinated heard how RIDICULOUS their core beliefs are they would laugh themselves silly! So the uninitiated have to be treated like boiling a frog: just turn up the heat inch by inch so they wont notice the

RE: [TruthTalk] I didn't do that freaking email

2003-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
TPW, Thank you for your direct (if not kind) response. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arsene Lupin Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] I didn't do that freaking email The best argument

RE: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hi Marlin! I hope you will give us an update on Jessica's family when there is something to report. And on your own family! Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL

[TruthTalk] Faux-Christians

2003-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily
Non-Christians have no right to tell Christians how to behave as Christians. (How would a faux-Christian know???) Izzy -Original Message- DAVEH: I think Judy has given you some good reasons, so I don't feel a need to repeat them. However Kevin, what I will repeat is

RE: [TruthTalk] flu shots

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, it is okay if you want to be anti-flu shots. But be careful not to fall into the Liberals camp of being anti-drug companies. They hate all large corporations, and will do anything to defame them and legislate them right out of business. We can actually thank the Clinton administration for

RE: [TruthTalk] HAPPY YULE DAY!!

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
David, It seems like every pagan group takes credit for the Christmas tree. I can see why it leaves a bad taste in some folks' mouths for Christmas trees. Personally, I have one every other year, for when we have the children here with us over Christmas. When we don't, I get to avoid all that

RE: [TruthTalk] Just the BIBLE Dave

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Kevin, You are so right about that. It is all show and pretense, and parading of worldly riches. What is the Hill Cumorah pag? Izzy Mark 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
DaveH, how many YEARS is this going to take??? (And for what purpose?) Izzy, -Original Message- It kinda saddens me to think that even though my primary purpose to be on TT is to find out about the beliefs of Protestants -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned

RE: [TruthTalk] Faux-Christians

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Christians From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] Non-Christians have no right to tell Christians how to behave as Christians. (How would a faux- Christian know???) Izzy **I understand that I am on your ignore list Izzy but do you have any idea how obnoxious the above

RE: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right.

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
DaveH, You seem to have insatiable curiosity. :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Izzy -You are right. ShieldsFamily wrote: DaveH, how

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Differences

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
-Original Message- I once prayed with a 5 year old and saw him receive the Holy Spirit, so that tells me that Joseph Smith was wrong about this 8 years of age thing. I also know someone whose son received the Holy Spirit when he was 3 years of age. My 5 yr old Grandaughter

RE: RE: [TruthTalk] Faux-Christians

2003-12-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Judy, I never said you rejected me. If you can read what you wrote, you can see that I was honoring your request. (Twist that however you wish, but its still there in black and white.) However, you dont seem to be able to do the same for me. Our whole discussion prior to your request

RE: [TruthTalk] GILLES GORED BY BULL-DIKE IN BEANTOWN BROUHAHA

2004-03-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
, 2004 9:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] GILLES GORED BY BULL-DIKE IN BEANTOWN BROUHAHA ShieldsFamily wrote: Oh, my. I take a peek in my little TT folder just to see if things have changed, and what do I find? All the old looneys plus many NEW ones!!! TruthTalk is 98

[TruthTalk] All truth leads to Jesus.

2004-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Hey Bill, I had to drop in to say that I agree with your viewpoint: ALL Truth (and Beauty) is from God, and if truly pursued will ultimately lead to God. One can find Truth in math, science, art, philosophy, medicine, or even in a lowly career in homemaking. You can find Jesus in a

RE: [TruthTalk] NEWtrition YOU

2004-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
Chris, Perhaps your assertion about selenium is true; Im not saying it isnt. But why dont you provide the exact studies that allegedly prove your point? Instead, you say Dr. So and So, who is extremely famous and you should be impressed, has said such and such which he proved in a big

RE: [TruthTalk] the conscience

2004-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
John, What do you mean by reestablished? Do you mean that someone initially had a conscience, and then it went away, and now you want it reestablish it? Seems like I heard of a Christian speaker who addressed a room full of college students who were in favor of abortion. Nothing he said

RE: [TruthTalk] the conscience

2004-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
John, Here is just one review article I found on PubMed: J Clin Child Adolesc Psychol. 2004 Mar;33(1):54-68. Temperament and developmental pathways to conduct problems. Frick PJ, Morris AS. This article reviews research linking a number of temperamental

RE: [TruthTalk] the conscience

2004-03-22 Thread ShieldsFamily
John, Perhaps the speaker I heard (on the radio) was Ravi Zaccharias. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] the conscience John, What do you

RE: [TruthTalk] Strawman gets the Bird

2004-03-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
John, Funny you would bring up GlasserI stumbled upon his theories in nursing school, and he made more sense than all the others put together. He acted as if there was no such thing as insanity and treated the patients as if they were capable of behaving normally, and they often did

RE: [TruthTalk] IZZY - NEWtrition YOU

2004-03-23 Thread ShieldsFamily
. Chris a servant of YHVH - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily Sent: 03/22/2004 10:41 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] NEWtrition YOU Chris, Perhaps your assertion about selenium is true;Im

RE: [TruthTalk] All truth leads to Jesus.

2004-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Bill, Im sorry to hear that you are withdrawingjust when you had drawn me back into TT. I withdrew a few months ago for the same reasontired of putting up with people who are more interested in being Contentious than kindly exploring issues of Truth in the community of Christ. I hope youll

RE: [TruthTalk] Strawman gets the Bird

2004-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
True, John. This just proves that Believers do not have a corner on all truth. Some unbelievers stumble onto truth also. Truth includes whatever really works, based on discoveries of how Gods creation operates. So we can take the good (Glassers method) and discard the bad (Glassers

[TruthTalk] Knowledge vs Wisdom

2004-03-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
BT: Knowledge could even be the rote memorization of Scripture, and wisdom could be the understanding of how to use that knowledge, the discernment of what to do with it. Bill, Would you also agree that there are levels of understanding in scripture? I believe the Lord

[TruthTalk] God in our unconscious

2004-03-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Bill, The picture you drew about Gods beauty brought tears to my eyesso true! What do you think of M. Scott Pecks words in The Road Less Traveled?--- If you want to know the closest place to look for grace, it is within yourself. If you desire wisdom greater than your own, you can

RE: [TruthTalk] POLYANYI

2004-03-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Marlin, So true! Perhaps the reporters are those who havent gotten past the superficial meaning of scripture, and can only quote it AT you to prove their point, all the while not seeing the deeper meaning of it. We cant sneer at those people; it is the infant stage which is so necessary to

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