I've seen the Liberation font, it's very nice and probably a lot better than
either one of the fonts discussed here, judging from the samples. I'm not on
my Ubuntu box right now, do you have a screenshot showing how it looks as
rendered with the system's default anti-aliasing settings?
Michiel
So basically, Liberation is meant to be the default serif, sans-serif and
monospace in documents such as web pages? Just saw some screenshots of
Liberation being used as the system font, and while I don't think it's ugly,
I can understand what you mean. Nice to hear that Dalton Maag have been
(Although I kind of feel like I'm beating a dead horse here) I feel that
it's good for the system to have basic support for other scripts. I'm
just taking a couple of fonts included in the default install that will
add support for the most common scripts for documents and browsers—not
the full
Oops; I no longer have the screenshots. However, my problem was slightly
different. Instead of the white text being cleared, all non-white colors
were cleared.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/70403
You received this bug notification because you are
for, say, their OpenOffice documents.
We should keep in mind that users might not want to have the language
pack, yet still want to read documents made with the script. People
who natively speak English but work together with an Indian company,
for example.
Michiel Sikma
mich
cannot easily turn off the notifications.
Michiel Sikma
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On 3-dec-2008, at 16:44, sam tygier wrote:
an auto font installer ought to be used to add non-latin fonts when
needed. http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2008/12/01/packagekit-and-
pango-
are-now-friends/
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More granular
It wouldn't be a bad idea to include some other fonts to cover some
of the more common scripts. I'd be more interested in having default
support for Simplified Chinese than a bunch of fancy Latin fonts that
you hardly ever use. Only the basics should be supplied.
Michiel Sikma
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I think it's a difficult issue. DejaVu Sans is a very good font, as
is DejaVu Sans Condensed. The former has the advantage of being more
extended, which aids readability, and the latter might be slightly
more elegant and allows for more information to be shown on the screen.
In any case,
I think that it should be possible to reduce the amount of default
fonts without giving up on the most often used writing systems. I
personally think that it's important that users of Arabic, Hebrew,
Devanagari, Cyrillic, and eastern logographic writing systems, should
be supported out of
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: gnome-system-monitor
The documentation of this package is ancient. It's, in fact, so old that
it states the window should have no more than two tabs in its main
window, while there are four by now. It has no information on the
System and File Systems
** Attachment added: Differences between recent System Monitor and its
documentation.
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10917875/system-monitor.png
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/176623
You received this bug notification because
I have this too. The window title font is slightly larger than it should
be. I actually thought this was a feature! To be honest, I like it; the
window title is important on-screen information, so it made sense to me
that it would be a little bigger.
Maybe once you fix this bug, I'll go talk to
I'd like to second (third, fourth, nth) the importance issue. It's
currently on the wishlist, but it seems that this bug is potentially
harmful to hardware. This should be considered high or critical
unless we find definitive proof that it isn't very dangerous at all.
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Public bug reported:
Related to bug 35364, but maybe not entirely the same. I just installed
Gutsy on a MacBook which didn't have internet access at the time. Since
it could not verify any of the repositories, it commented them all out,
even though I'd hook it up to the internet after
** Description changed:
It seems that if you leave a text-mode terminal alone for some time, it
will go into a power-saving mode of some sort. I don't know how to
otherwise describe it, so here are two pictures that show what I mean:
- http://thingmajig.org/tmp/strange_0.jpg - normal
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: ubuntu-desktop
Yesterday, I had installed Gutsy in a virtual computer under Parallels
3.0 for Mac OS X (this is a standard x86 virtualizer, and quite
popular). Just to see what it looked like, I enabled extra desktop
effects as I was setting it up.
I've taken new photos of this bug while still using 7.04.
See here a normal, everyday tty session:
http://test.thingmajig.org/25-08-07_0006.jpg
After a while of doing nothing (a while is about the time when one
would dim the screen to save energy), the screen suddenly looks like
this:
Sorry, the images are offline by now. I will retake these screenshots
with the latest testing version soon to see whether the problem has
persisted. (Yes, I know I'm talking to a bot. :)
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be the system's default font,
DejaVu Sans, could cause this image to be rendered differently. Am I
missing something?
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On 10-apr-2007, at 16:35, jhasse wrote:
Here's another example where DejaVu Sans destroys a svg image:
http
Ah, I see. In that case, ignore my last message too, since it seems
to be a Firefox bug.
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On 10-apr-2007, at 16:43, jhasse wrote:
hmm... maybe I'm wrong, when I watch the image with another
application
then firefox, it works
.css
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On 10-apr-2007, at 17:18, jhasse wrote:
I think you're right. It must be something else because this image is
broken.
well, I just noticed that pons.de has a new design which is now
working with DejaVu Sans. But I found
A while ago, I replied to this bug about not liking the font at all. It
seemed that a more extended font like DejaVu Sans was more readable, due
to the fact that broad fonts with a large x-height are simply found to
lend themselves very well for reading on a computer screen (as proved by
the
I'm currently unable to check on how that website looks with Condensed,
as I'm at work, but I'd expect that the breakage is due to the site
designers having done a bad job rather than the font being incompatible.
Making a design rely on the width of a font is always a bad idea (it
also probably
I actually do agree with Tommi Asiala. Lowering the volume is one thing,
but I personally would rather actually not have a startup sound at all.
Startup sounds are /so/ 1984. :)
But that's something marketing-related, I'll discuss this with the
Ubuntu art team later to see if we should open up a
By the way, I also believe that this font's usability goes up when using
the low amount of hinting. It causes the top and bottom row of pixels
to be correctly hinted. If we use this font as default, I believe that
we should also start using that setting as the default hinting. (Should
I open up a
You know, I really don't think that this font is all that great. The
hinting is really, really off. Or even non-existent. And, as I
suspected, the font does not have the optimal screen font structure.
Condensed fonts are more difficult to read, most of the time, and that
is why I was skeptical
I hope that you realize that changing the default font of the operating
system is a gigantic change. I really cannot stress this enough. It will
affect everybody, and everybody is going to notice it. Making such a
change requires extensive discussion and consideration by everybody
involved in the
Sebastien Bacher, did you even read what I said? If you're fixing
this, you should realize that this isn't your average bug. This is a
gigantic OS-wise change that will affect everybody. We first would need
to open up a discussion on whether we /want/ to change this before
actually doing it.
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My concern /is/ appearance, Jimmy. Not testing. I'm active in the Ubuntu
artwork team, and I believe that making such a change is /not/ something
that you simply propose and accept in an afternoon. This requires more
thought, and I believe that the artwork team should be involved here as
well.
** Description changed:
The backgrounds currently included are too low resolution.
* 1600x1200
* 1600x1000
When displaying these background on higher resolution devices it looks
stretched and ugly!
Considering (also) supplying these sizes:
* 1920×1200
* 1680x1050
+
+
as it is, due to the lack of official design
documentation.
Michiel Sikma
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Web site: http://thingmajig.org/
On 14-jan-2007, at 22:37, Mirco Müller wrote:
Troy, trust me... there won't be a problem following just any style
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: usplash
When I start up my computer and switch to tty1 while the nice new usplash
software is running, I seem to get a lot of debugging info from usplash. This
litters the screen and continues to be seen even after usplash has finished its
animation,
Public bug reported:
It seems that if you leave a text-mode terminal alone for some time, it
will go into a power-saving mode of some sort. I don't know how to
otherwise describe it, so here are two pictures that show what I mean:
http://thingmajig.org/tmp/strange_0.jpg - normal text-mode
they were precisely aligned to the pixel. But I only once
did that, so maybe it was fixed or changed since.
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Off-topic to the discussion of Troy's art, but I'd say that valid
positioning and branding of Ubuntu's identity is moreo important than
a few tools, but that's something other devs will probably disagree
with. :P
Like said on IRC, I find this very interesting, Troy. We'll discuss
it
Thanks for the suggestion. It looks interesting, to say the least,
but I wonder about usability here. The bar looks like it's too dark
to create a proper contrast between itself and the text.
Michiel
Op 27-sep-2006, om 3:30 heeft effraie het volgende geschreven:
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Op 26-sep-2006, om 11:51 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende
geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
That is total nonsense. It's a very good wallpaper, and I don't
think that the balance its composition currently holds should be
compromised because a design element vaguely reminds you
That is total nonsense. It's a very good wallpaper, and I don't think
that the balance its composition currently holds should be
compromised because a design element vaguely reminds you of a logo.
That's just silly.
Michiel
Op 26-sep-2006, om 11:38 heeft Julian Oliver het volgende
Op 12-sep-2006, om 10:35 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende
geschreven:
Both good pointers. Troy Sobotka just called for more comments to
help get Edgy's artwork nailed, so your timing is good.
Mark
That's true. We need to have more people actively criticizing art.
Don't worry about
Welcome to the list, I guess.
Michiel
Op 12-sep-2006, om 16:18 heeft Alberto Núñez het volgende geschreven:
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Op 7-sep-2006, om 18:43 heeft Nathan Eckenrode het volgende geschreven:
I am not certain I see how Mediawiki is better at allowing one to
see the
progression of work that has been done on artwork. It appears to be
the same
solution that is currently in place, a wiki. i certainly can be
Op 7-sep-2006, om 0:45 heeft Dennis Kaarsemaker het volgende geschreven:
well, almost finished
The usplash in edgy actually already supports the bling-bling things I
worked on lately, but doesn't say how to use them. I've just pushed
some
more revisions to launchpad, including an example
Op 7-sep-2006, om 12:08 heeft Who het volgende geschreven:
That is _cool_ - what did you use to make it? I like the added shading
on the logo too...
Just Photoshop. I'll prepare a version that can be opened up in GIMP
when I get home (uses layer effects and clipping masks now). The
radial
I would like that too, but a background might not work well for the
same reasons it couldn't be anything other than black in the old
usplash. I was thinking of shining a big spotlight on the logo that
revealed a brown radial gradient-like background underneath it, but
that doesn't work
Op 30-aug-2006, om 4:21 heeft Troy Sobotka het volgende geschreven:
On Tue, 2006-29-08 at 15:55 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote:
Or something like this:
http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/animated.gif
I think that concept is terrific. We discussed
something very similar to it during
Yeah, wasn't it one of the main art-related objectives of Edgy to get
that crappy text out of the distro's usplash?
Michiel
Op 29-aug-2006, om 15:13 heeft PingunZ het volgende geschreven:
Seriously, focus the usplash with a higher resolution and color depth.
Cheers PingunZ
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We really don't need a beginner-freaking-out-text, its not nice,
its not useful..
Just a nicebackground with a throbber.
Cheers PingunZ
2006/8/29, Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yeah, wasn't it
one of the main art-related objectives of Edgy to get
that crappy text out of the distro's
Well, I'm kind of hoping that somehow we'd be able to get past that
limit. I've heard talk of a better usplash that will support 256
colors. It's rather ugly with only a few colors.
Michiel
Op 29-aug-2006, om 16:05 heeft Viper550 het volgende geschreven:
Nice, but that's 256 colors, do
combining brown with orange and even yellow/red hue accents that
Dapper made possible.
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Op 23-aug-2006, om 8:22 heeft Troy James Sobotka het volgende
geschreven:
On Wed, 2006-23-08 at 08:07 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote:
I think we have gone a little off-topic. :)
Not off topic at all -- the deadline is pretty rapidly
approaching. It _is_ difficult to churn out work after
you
Op 23-aug-2006, om 11:42 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende
geschreven:
Michiel, I'm somewhat responsible for this.
Just so this is clear: if anything I make is not accepted, then this
is fine. It does, however, seem very awkward to me that the artist-in-
chief specifically starts up
Op 23-aug-2006, om 11:58 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende
geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
It's a little unfortunate that the shut down, restart, etc.
buttons are now in a drop-down box, which I think kind of seems
out of place when opened. I'd rather have those buttons on the GDM
. Does anyone still have that link
that contained it? I'm willing to do a lot for Ubuntu art, but
reverse engineering the alpha channels of all icons of an icon set
isn't one of them. :)
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screen isn't removed I'd certainly go for an animated
one, like xubuntu.
I hope you can do this. I think Ubuntu just has too many loading
screens. :)
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PS: please CC your mails to the Ubuntu artwork mailing list. Seems
that I didn't even notice that two mails
and clipping are majorly useful
features. I guess I'll have try and go without them.
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about the styles and looks?
Regards,
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is going to be very useful.
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the easiest way to make everything brighter is tossing a replace
color filter on the grey, but that should only be done when I no
longer need to edit the layers. :) So I'll try that in a while.
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and orange are
okay colors from my perspective, as they're very distinctive and nice
colors.
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some interface sounds. I'm really interested in those in particular.
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Op 10-aug-2006, om 17:28 heeft Michiel Sikma het volgende geschreven:
Op 10-aug-2006, om 17:15 heeft Who het volgende geschreven:
Are there going to be any modifactions to the Human engine this
release cycle? I recall that the clearlooks developers made it in the
UI sprint for dapper
Op 10-aug-2006, om 17:36 heeft Who het volgende geschreven:
I too am wondering about the technical aspects of the Human theme/
engine. I've worked out a possible future theme for Human before
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/PolishHumanGTKTheme/
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colors, since it is just a little bit too
bright at the moment. There has been made a bug report about it
(https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntulooks/+bug/37603).
Well, off to the drawing table.
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, widescreen
LCDs are becoming more popular, and one could think that the whole
widescreen TV hype might get something to do with it, too. I agree
that most computers as of now still have 4:3, but I wouldn't discount
the possibility of it being different in the future.
Michiel Sikma
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to make it more Ubuntu-specific? I'd surely prefer to go
without it, though.
Here are links to larger versions:
http://thingmajig.org/tmp/abstract1.png
http://thingmajig.org/tmp/abstract1b.png (different color scheme)
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Op 4-jul-2006, om 15:42 heeft Étienne Bersac het volgende geschreven:
Hello all,
I'll be in holyday with boyscouts during 3 week from 5 to 25 july. So
don't hope any changes in the wiki from me nor any comment on
ubuntu-art
Have nice holydays you too.
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Op 3-jul-2006, om 10:31 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende geschreven:
You're absolutely right - for non-default wallpapers we could relax
this criterion. However, the number of wallpapers we can include on
the installation CD is limited by space. I'm not sure, for example,
if Dapper
will,
too, so we can always have one high-resolution default wallpaper and
some smaller ones besides that, if it really takes up that little
space. That is kind of nice.
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, then they should definitely
submit them, if only for to show off the fact that it is possible,
but I'd much rather work with a much larger control over individual
pixels.
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On Jun 30, 2006, at 5:52 PM, Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 30-jun-2006, om 17:47 heeft Troy James Sobotka het volgende
geschreven:
Huge can of worms. We talked about this in Paris, and
this is why I brought it up.
I can tell you that 5:4 is pretty common as is 16:9.
Yeah, you're right
Op 30-jun-2006, om 0:22 heeft Étienne Bersac het volgende geschreven:
Hello,
www.neuronioenlatado.com.br/ubuntu/eft1920x1280.png
That would be nice to ship wallpaper in such high resolution.
Especially
for widescreen for 1650x1080 and higher (like OS X do).
Étienne.
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Op 30-jun-2006, om 9:58 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende geschreven:
There are two things to bear in mind.
First, space. We are very tight on the install CD. In Dapper we
switched to 700MB CD formats but we also introduced a lot of
example content that shows what the OS is capable
Op 30-jun-2006, om 10:00 heeft Michiel Sikma het volgende geschreven:
Is that so? I always thought that it kept a cached, maybe even
uncompressed version of a scaled wallpaper to prevent the rendering
from being too difficult. Hmm... maybe that's an idea for the
developers. I'll file
Op 30-jun-2006, om 12:22 heeft Joao Inacio het volgende geschreven:
On 6/30/06, Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah, I encourage people to work on as high resolutions as their RAM
will allow. I personally work on resolutions in the 4000 px wide
regions to ensure that my wallpapers
Op 30-jun-2006, om 13:25 heeft Kenneth Wimer het volgende geschreven:
Hi Thiago,
On Jun 30, 2006, at 1:14 PM, Thiago Ribeiro wrote:
I made this wallpaper in Inkscape, but I opened it in Gimp and saved
as png. I dont know why when I export it in Inkscape the image isnt
the same that I'm
Op 30-jun-2006, om 17:40 heeft Troy James Sobotka het volgende
geschreven:
The optics of this are poor.
There are a plethora of different aspect ratios
( 16:9, 16:10, 4:3, 5:4 ).
The only ones that are widely used are 4:3 and 16:10. I don't really
see a reason to support 5:4 (??) and
Op 30-jun-2006, om 17:47 heeft Troy James Sobotka het volgende
geschreven:
Huge can of worms. We talked about this in Paris, and
this is why I brought it up.
I can tell you that 5:4 is pretty common as is 16:9.
Yeah, you're right. Sorry. 5:4 (1280x1024) is commonly used as well.
I
Op 29-jun-2006, om 16:14 heeft Matthew Nuzum het volgende geschreven:
On 6/29/06, Mark Shuttleworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Étienne Bersac wrote:
For me, the branding on the Breezy background was great - it belnded
in very well with the backdrop - an generally looked 'cool'.
Agree,
Op 29-jun-2006, om 17:00 heeft Matthew Nuzum het volgende geschreven:
On 6/29/06, Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Op 29-jun-2006, om 16:14 heeft Matthew Nuzum het volgende geschre
For inspiration, I strongly suggest looking at what other OSs are
doing. Most computers come from
Op 27-jun-2006, om 16:11 heeft Troy James Sobotka het volgende
geschreven:
On Tue, 2006-27-06 at 07:33 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
The desktop colour should not be too bright, or it becomes tiring to
look at all day. We generally have chosen to go with darker, richer
colours so that
Op 27-jun-2006, om 16:13 heeft Michiel Sikma het volgende geschreven:
Op 27-jun-2006, om 16:11 heeft Troy James Sobotka het volgende
geschreven:
On Tue, 2006-27-06 at 07:33 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
The desktop colour should not be too bright, or it becomes tiring to
look at all
! :)
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On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:29 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
OK, I think we are making progress here!
Michiel Sikma wrote:
What I do appreciate is that Human was used in Dapper while it was
incomplete as an extra impulse to get people to complete it. I'll
definitely make it one of my things
in vectors?
I've also done some wallpaper sketching which I'll present later
while we're on the subject.
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PS: sorry, I didn't realize you had already sent a mail to the list
as well.
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On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
Hi,
On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:23 PM, Michiel Sikma wrote:
On Jun 25, 2006, at 8:25 PM, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
On Jun 25, 2006, at 7:21 PM, Michiel Sikma wrote:
On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Troy James Sobotka wrote:
This will require
Op 21-jun-2006, om 17:11 heeft Who het volgende geschreven:
On 6/20/06, Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let's open up this discussion again with Edgy in mind. There are
currently two viable sets that can be used: the Human set and the
Tangerine/Tango set.
What are your reasons
Op 21-jun-2006, om 23:29 heeft Niel Drummond het volgende geschreven:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:27:59 +0200
Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ ubuntu-art-titlefont
can you make ubuntu-art the assignee to this spec, so it'll show
up on the main
The spec for this (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/
ChangeMouseCursors) says J Lo loves her mouse pointers, but ubuntu
has not improved on existing commercial mouse pointers. She hopes the
next release will.
I still don't see this as a valid argument. What is there to improve
on
Op 22-jun-2006, om 9:48 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
I've been thinking about how to retain consistency between
different types of Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu). Perhaps we
could simply make sure that the default themes that exist
Hi Niklas!
Welcome to the Artwork team. It's great to have someone around with
experience in graphics. Do you also have experience in print work?
I hope that you will succeed at getting a job as UI designer at DICE.
I too would like to be part of a game studio sometime, although right
Chuck Huber wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 15:25 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
The link below depicts XP cursors to the left, while the equivalent
Polar, Neutral and Ubuntu cursors are on the right, in that order.
http://lagunadata.com/staging/buntu_art/cursor_comp.png
Checking around I found
Op 20-jun-2006, om 9:34 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende geschreven:
j michaelson wrote:
would it be worth having an ubuntu pallette made for inkscape
users or
is everything being switched over to the tango pallette now?
No, we are not switching to the Tango palette, so it would be
Op 20-jun-2006, om 9:39 heeft Oliver Grawert het volgende geschreven:
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 20.06.2006, 08:32 +0100 schrieb Mark Shuttleworth:
Andy Fitzsimon did the first versions of the Ubuntu font - I think he
did it by hand and it was his first font, so cleanup / patches /
improvements
Op 19-jun-2006, om 3:00 heeft Chuck Huber het volgende geschreven:
On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 15:58 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote:
For one, and this has nothing to do with your cursor design, but
what is
exactly the reason why we're making new cursors? At the risk of
sounding
closed-minded, I
Op 19-jun-2006, om 3:24 heeft Chuck Huber het volgende geschreven:
On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 14:09 +0200, Michiel Sikma wrote:
For instance, Kubuntu could have a blue theme. It should
preferably look
as much like the Ubuntu default theme as possible, barring the color
set. Then we should
Op 19-jun-2006, om 16:44 heeft Matthew Nuzum het volgende geschreven:
On 6/19/06, Michiel Sikma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ubuntu uses orange, Kubuntu uses blue, Xubuntu uses light anthracite
(or something; that's how the color seems to me). Those seem like
nice default colors for themes. I
I've been thinking about how to retain consistency between different
types of Ubuntu (Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu). Perhaps we could simply
make sure that the default themes that exist for the different distros
are somewhat universal?
For instance, Kubuntu could have a blue theme. It should
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