On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 05:44, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> Yes, the merge or upgrade needs to be done by a developer. It's not a
> user task. My point was: If someone was able to provide a newer version
> via a PPA (and you install it via ubuntu-tweak), the person can get the
> package in the archive (
Am Freitag, den 06.08.2010, 08:12 +0800 schrieb Aron Xu:
> We are common users and Ubuntu wiki (and in various mailing lists) is
> encouraging us to file requests when we need the program to be
> updated. But when we asked for updating the package, we seemingly need
> to merge it ourselves first to
于 2010年08月06日 21:30, Scott Kitterman 写道:
>
> As was already commented, the difference is that it presents a list of
> specific
> PPAs and is not just a generic tool to make adding of PPAs easier for non-
> technical users.
>
> Scott K
>
Thanks Scott, the ubuntu-tweak author told me he will
于 2010年08月06日 20:37, Ralph Janke 写道:
> Sorry, but people also need to be careful taking out an nuclear option
> in how they describe others when they bring legitimate arguments.
>
> Everything that I have seen so far in the thread is a discussion if
> certain features of a software are a good
On Friday, August 06, 2010 09:30:04 am Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:15:55 am LI Daobing wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 22:21, Scott Kitterman
wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:16:05 pm LI Daobing wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:09,
On Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:15:55 am LI Daobing wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 22:21, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:16:05 pm LI Daobing wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:09, Scott Kitterman
wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:05:25 pm LI
Sorry, but people also need to be careful taking out an nuclear option
in how they describe others when they bring legitimate arguments.
Everything that I have seen so far in the thread is a discussion if
certain features of a software are a good solution for the general
population of users or
于 2010年08月06日 02:40, Stephan Hermann 写道:
> Moins,
>
>
> On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 11:37 -0400, Andrew SB wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stephan Hermann wrote:
>>> We had that in the past, and this will happen with unreflected usage of
>>> tools like this. (Please read the threads about
> Does MOTU support or endorse the IRC servers available on the xchat server
> list ?
> Does MOTU support or endorse the the radio stream availables on the
> 'tunapie' stream list ?
> Does MOTU support or endorse the the media/software/etc source here> ?
IRC servers and radio streams are not inst
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Maia Kozheva wrote:
> Just my two kopecks here:
>
> It's not just the catalogue of specific PPAs that is a problem. Granted,
> that's one of the problems too, in my eyes; having it in the Ubuntu
> archive makes us look like we support that kind of unofficial
> ble
Just my two kopecks here:
It's not just the catalogue of specific PPAs that is a problem. Granted,
that's one of the problems too, in my eyes; having it in the Ubuntu
archive makes us look like we support that kind of unofficial
bleeding-edge updates *and* the PPAs featured. Ubuntu does provide
于 2010年08月05日 23:37, Andrew SB 写道:
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stephan Hermann wrote:
>> We had that in the past, and this will happen with unreflected usage of
>> tools like this. (Please read the threads about Automatix and Friends in
>> the past...google have references)
>
> For refer
The approach that some people take on application reviews seems to fit the
description from Mark: 'Tribalism is when one group of people start to think
people from another group are “wrong by default” -
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/439 .
I hope that the seek for reasons to reject the p
Hi Chris,
于 2010年08月06日 01:00, Chris Coulson 写道:
> On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 11:57 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:35:40 am Aron Xu wrote:
>>> The PPAs are selected by the ubuntu-tweak authors and community
>>> contributors. You may want to pay some time to have a look
于 2010年08月05日 22:59, Reinhard Tartler 写道:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:15:55 (EDT), LI Daobing wrote:
>
>> ubuntu-tweak does not add any ppa to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ by
>> default. this only happens when user ask it do.
>>
>> the add-apt-repository command in python-software-properties packag
Thanks, I am not complaining about the sponsor team and I know there
must be someone to do the merge and supply a debdiff or a branch for
the sponsor team to actually do the sponsor.
What I am thinking is ibus is a key program for many users especially
CJK users, and when someone in the community
Moins,
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 11:37 -0400, Andrew SB wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> > We had that in the past, and this will happen with unreflected usage of
> > tools like this. (Please read the threads about Automatix and Friends in
> > the past...google have
On Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:37:19 pm Aron Xu wrote:
> For example the ibus series in Ubuntu is OLD, and I filed some sync
> and merge request about including the newer versions from Debian. But
> in fact nobody works on the ibus package's merge, and users are
> getting software that supported b
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 11:57 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:35:40 am Aron Xu wrote:
> > The PPAs are selected by the ubuntu-tweak authors and community
> > contributors. You may want to pay some time to have a look at
> > ubuntu-tweak.com, which enables the users to
Am Freitag, den 06.08.2010, 00:37 +0800 schrieb Aron Xu:
> For example the ibus series in Ubuntu is OLD, and I filed some sync
> and merge request about including the newer versions from Debian. But
> in fact nobody works on the ibus package's merge, and users are
> getting software that supported
There are more examples if we start a long discussion. Although the
following content is somehow off-topic, but for a common user the best
choice is not asking for solving the problem, but simply adding a PPA
from ubuntu-tweak. ubuntu-tweak introduces some useful PPAs that many
users may have searc
I think talking for a single patch is not the relevant topic in this
thread. But for amule, adding DLP to the mainstream package is not
acceptable because not all users like that function in deed. AFAIK,
the amule project rejected that patch because they think it is not
appropriate for all users.
That's what the author did wrong, that he should copy the information
from Launchpad directly to his site, this is what we could ask him to
fix. Not all PPAs you can see on the site available in the software,
only PPAs that tagged "Featured" are included, others are only users
added them to the sit
On Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:35:40 am Aron Xu wrote:
> The PPAs are selected by the ubuntu-tweak authors and community
> contributors. You may want to pay some time to have a look at
> ubuntu-tweak.com, which enables the users to add there suggestions and
> reviews for the developers. Developers
We shouldn't reject a package that provides some functions in
software-center's field but software-center still not implemented yet.
As we can see software-center has already gained basic PPA support,
and I guess it WILL be more tightly integrated with Launchpad
services. Will you reject software-
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 23:02, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 22:50 +0800, LI Daobing wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 22:39, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > On Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:21:41 am LI Daobing wrote:
>> >> it's somehow different, for example, the amule ppa shipped with
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> We had that in the past, and this will happen with unreflected usage of
> tools like this. (Please read the threads about Automatix and Friends in
> the past...google have references)
For reference, here's Matthew Garrett's technical revie
The untrusted PPAs are options for users that who would like to enjoy
newer versions of software, or something else that are not provided in
Ubuntu archive. I know users can request for packaging or request for
backports, but it is really a difficult thing for a common user to to
all the coordinati
ubuntu-tweak has a very big user base from country to country. The
functions it provides are pretty good, and the software is actively
well maintained. If there is a right choice for providing more user
friendly system 'tweak' tool, then ubuntu-tweak should be the one.
Ubuntu (more exactly, GNOME
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 22:59, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:15:55 (EDT), LI Daobing wrote:
>
>> ubuntu-tweak does not add any ppa to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ by
>> default. this only happens when user ask it do.
>>
>> the add-apt-repository command in python-software-propert
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 22:50 +0800, LI Daobing wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 22:39, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:21:41 am LI Daobing wrote:
> >> it's somehow different, for example, the amule ppa shipped with
> >> ubuntu-tweak has DLP function, which is important for
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:15:55 (EDT), LI Daobing wrote:
> ubuntu-tweak does not add any ppa to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ by
> default. this only happens when user ask it do.
>
> the add-apt-repository command in python-software-properties package
> also can add ppa to sources.list, so I don't thi
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 22:39, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:21:41 am LI Daobing wrote:
>> it's somehow different, for example, the amule ppa shipped with
>> ubuntu-tweak has DLP function, which is important for us.
>
> Can this be added to the amule package in Ubuntu?
I
On Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:21:41 am LI Daobing wrote:
> it's somehow different, for example, the amule ppa shipped with
> ubuntu-tweak has DLP function, which is important for us.
Can this be added to the amule package in Ubuntu?
> it also provide some snapshot version program (just like gcc
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 21:43, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> moins,
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 10:21 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:16:05 pm LI Daobing wrote:
>> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:09, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:05:25 pm LI Da
Hello,
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 22:21, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:16:05 pm LI Daobing wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:09, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:05:25 pm LI Daobing wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:00, Sc
moins,
On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 10:21 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:16:05 pm LI Daobing wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:09, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:05:25 pm LI Daobing wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 a
On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:16:05 pm LI Daobing wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:09, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:05:25 pm LI Daobing wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:00, Scott Kitterman
wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 01:29:46 p
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>
> Ubuntu Tweak is waiting for approval in New queue.
> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/252140
>
> Is this something MOTU wants included?
>
Yes, I want it, and actually, its being used widely in China.
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:05:25 pm LI Daobing wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:00, Scott Kitterman
> wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 01:29:46 pm Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > >> Ubuntu Tweak is waiting for app
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:09, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:05:25 pm LI Daobing wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:00, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 01:29:46 pm Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>> >> Ubuntu Tweak is waiting for approval in
On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 09:05:25 pm LI Daobing wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:00, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 01:29:46 pm Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> >> Ubuntu Tweak is waiting for approval in New queue.
> >> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
> >> https://bugs.e
Hello,
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 09:00, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 01:29:46 pm Jonathan Riddell wrote:
>> Ubuntu Tweak is waiting for approval in New queue.
>> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
>> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/252140
>>
>> Is this something MOTU wants
On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 01:29:46 pm Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> Ubuntu Tweak is waiting for approval in New queue.
> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/252140
>
> Is this something MOTU wants included?
>
No.
It looks to me like something that, in addition to
Ubuntu Tweak is waiting for approval in New queue.
http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/252140
Is this something MOTU wants included?
Jonathan
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