Re: unicode support in win98/95

2002-01-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
See   http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/articles/mslu_announce.asp   for information about MSLU (the Microsoft Layer for Unicode on win9x systems). After trhat (and after you have clicked on the myriad of links there!) you can look at the article from MSDN Magazine:   http://msdn.microsoft.c

Re: embeding fonts in documents!!

2002-01-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This is kind of a "non-question" as it does not give enough information to provide an answer. You have not specifierd the platform, the font, the program you are using, the document type, or anything else.   Until you do provide some more information, no one can really hope to help you

Re: Euro in Email headers, misinformation?

2001-12-26 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Roozbeh Pournader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And there is MS basher bashing (TM), which is a rare art practiced by > Michael ;-) Hey, I often get into trouble for actually bashing myself (i.e. biting the

Re: Euro in Email headers, misinformation?

2001-12-26 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Richard ÄOepas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Plain 8bit headers are not default Outlook/Outlook setting > for mail. But people tend to use it as Outlook/OE allows > this (unfortunately) without knowing consequences. Piece of MS Misinformation (tm) #1: Outlook Express usually happens to work, *ex

Re: Vertical scripts (was: Tategaki (was: Re: Updated...))

2001-12-25 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "&Agr;&lgr;&eacgr;&xgr;&agr;&ngr;&dgr;&rgr;&ogr;&sfgr; &Dgr;&igr;&agr;&mgr;&agr;&ngr;&tgr;&iacgr;&dgr;&eegr;&sfgr;" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By the way, does any browser in common use > support the Ruby extensions to HTML? Well, looking at links like: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/autho

Re: Character display problem example

2001-12-22 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Robert (11 digit boy) said: > Suzanne Topping recently posted a query about what > Han characters cause display problems when a Chinese > font is used to display Japanese or such. I think that > there is a certain 5-stroke character that will answer it. > It is U+5E73. Well, there is a differenc

Re: Multilanguage and .eot fonts - unicode encoding into database

2001-12-19 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
> I'm still impressionate by the multilanguage page you done (http://www.trigeminal.com/samples/provincial.html) and thanks again to > help me to use unicode with database. My pleasure :-) > PS: With all fonts I have, I can see all the texts in the page > except this one : > ?? ?? ?

Re: Plane One use, was Re: HTML Validation

2001-12-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Plane One use, was Re: HTML Validation > At 18:09 12/16/2001, Michael \(michka\) Kaplan wrote: > > > > Keyboards as defined in the DDK return a table of keystroke to character > > > pairs (I

Re: Plane One use, was Re: HTML Validation

2001-12-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marc Durdin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Keyboards as defined in the DDK return a table of keystroke to character > pairs (I'm ignoring deadkeys and ligatures). My suggestion here is to add surrogate pairs to the ligature table. After all, what is a ligature in that table but multiple code poin

Re: Plane One use, was Re: HTML Validation

2001-12-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marc Durdin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > AFAIK this would work at the system level. I have experimented with using > ligatures and not had any problems. However (an unrelated problem), you > would have problems with most applications as they do not handle plane 1 > characters correctly (even m

Re: Plane One use, was Re: HTML Validation

2001-12-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marc Durdin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > With keyboards under Windows, you must send a surrogate pair for > WM_CHAR messages, but you need to send a UTF-32 codepoint for > WM_UNICHAR messages. I am not sure I understand keyboards as defined in the DDK do not send either message. I assume th

Re: Plane One use, was Re: HTML Validation

2001-12-16 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Curtis Clark wrote, > > 2. How can I encode glyphs into Plane One? Is Fontlab 3 sufficient (I'm > > assuming in any case that I'll have to change something by hand). > The latest version of Fontlab (just released) might enable non-BMP > font construction,

Re: Indic editing (was: RE: The real solution)

2001-12-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Arjun Aggarwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Moreover, the concept of may be natural for people > >who are used to typewriters and typography. Which is, some of the people > >who are more likely to switch to computers. > > I fully agree with Mr. Marco Cimarosti in this regard. > > This is the p

Re: Surrogates Question

2001-11-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Here is a page I put up a while ago for a friend: > > http://www.trigeminal.com/16to32AndBack.asp By popular request(s), a few enhancements have been added: 1) character names now also show up (if the names

Re: Surrogates Question

2001-11-22 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Here is a page I put up a while ago for a friend: http://www.trigeminal.com/16to32AndBack.asp The algorithm is described in the standard, a list of the code points would not only be huge but it would also be a waste MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com

Re: Unicode support in WinXP home and WinXP pro?

2001-11-22 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This is not true. They are based on the same code base, and both contain a Unicode aset of innards. MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "Jungshik Shin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Unicode Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Code2001 font again

2001-11-21 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If you ask about the results for OSes other than Windows2000 and > > browsers other than IE -- I'll answer, "They are none". I expected to > > make use of UTF-16, but in this case it's in no way better than UTF-8. > > Neither Netscape Communicator 4 nor

Re: Displaying Negative Unicode on the Web

2001-11-21 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
It is not actually a NEHATIVE Unicode value; it is a symptom of getting a code point from a function like VB's AscW(), which returns a signed short rather than an unsigned one. To fix, you have to sign extend the number. MichKa Michael Kaplan (principal developer of the MSLU) Trigeminal Softwar

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes, we'll there's something weird about your pages because I've done > those things, and I can't even view plane 0 Chinese characters in those > pages properly, regardless of whether I use the font-specified, > no-font-specified or weft versions. You mean Extension A

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-20 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >On this page, (all-on-one-line) > > > >http://www.i18nwithvb.com/surrogate_ime/code_charts/05.asp?nofont > > > >...you can try to duplicate the effect on M.E. in MSIE 5.5 > > Well, I'm running Win2000, and I have yet to succeed in viewing plane 2 > characters. (Plane

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
unate bugs, and they should definitetely be fixed (hopefully they will fix the Extension A bugs in IE, too!). MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael (michka) Kap

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Microsoft does not say this will work and do not expect it to work. You have to have an OS that suppprts this sort of thing. :-) MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/u - Original Message - From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: unicode demo: surrogates

2001-11-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
For the Mozulla bugs on this, see bugs 102253 and 102254 in the bugzilla database. Set to be fixed by the 0.97 milestone. MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
No, they do work (worked for me with that site I put for Extension B.). MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 17,

Re: Unicode surrogates in browsers for the compelling demo

2001-11-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
The instructions should work for XP. I would argue that it is up to the client, and the browser, to figure out how to display things. Isn't it? :-) MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: MSLU

2001-11-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
MSLU is not a self-registering component; it is a DLL that you would call via the "Declare" syntax in VB. You would never need to download or use the .LIB file, that is something for the people using C++ who want to use the loader. I would recommend starting with the MSDN Magazine article: http:

Re: ᚠᚢᚦᚨᚱᚴ input methods?

2001-11-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Stefan Persson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Is there any IME, keyboard, or any similar utility to > > > typing in the letters of the ᚠᚢᚦᚨᚱᚴ, the Runic alphabet? > Sorry for not mentionning it. I am using Windows 98. Hmmm. certainly nothing from MS, even in the form of drivers one could

Re: ISCII-Unicode Conversion

2001-11-06 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 11:17:50AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 2001-11-08 7:19:19 Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Any freely available info on ISO 9995, or do I have to pay through the > > nose for the privilege of learning about it? I have a

Re: Windows/Office XP question

2001-10-19 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
> B. Program (or library) determines which fonts installed on the system can > handle which of the characters given it, and breaks the text up into > ranges*, and draws each range with the right fonts. > > * With proper BIDI ordering, of course! This is closer to what Uniscribe does. > B depends

Re: Windows/Office XP question

2001-10-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Actually, in Windows 2000 and even moreso in Windows XP, Uniscribe achieves this, by properly doing both font substitution and handling of mixed script usage (XP is a bit better than Win2000 as they added additional Indic scripts and also because they to a beit better of a job in sizing mixed scri

Re: OCX's that support Unicode

2001-10-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Tex, > Michael, thanks. Any time. :-) > Are there any Microsoft controls that do scheduling (for displaying > project timelines or something similar, even if crude...)? I do not know of any but of course there may well be several available. Way too much stuff comes out of MS for anyone to

Re: Windows/Office XP question

2001-10-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "akerbeltz.alba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > While this may be true, I also find the number of times that one would > have > > such a database which was: > > > > a) multilingual > > b) cross-script > > c) plain text (versus RTF which would allow lanuage tagging) > > d) no language tagging of an

Re: Windows/Office XP question

2001-10-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Vladimir Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Chris Pratley wrote: > > > Please note that my personal recommendation is to use specific fonts > >appropriate for the scripts you are supporting, rather than relying on a > >"universal" font, which is always going to be compromised typographically. >

Re: OCX's that support Unicode

2001-10-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
SMALL CORRECTION: Almost all of the APIs will work with non-Latin chars, thjey just require a default system locale that is associated with the script in question. Unfortunately, many don't (one of the good things about the whole .NET hullaballoo is that many vendors who would not know Unicode fr

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Probably mistaken -- or a "pirate" version (pirate is in quotes there since legally it is not pirating to copy software, modify it, and sell it as your own in certain countries). MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "Carl

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Roozbeh Pournader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CP1256 has never supported FARSI YEH. > No it's not. Persian locale is only avaiable on Windows 2000 and XP, which > are Unicode based. Unfortunately, it is a bit more complicated then that. GetLocaleInfo/LOCALE_IDEFAULTANSICODEPAGE for Farsi doe

Re: CP1256 and Persian YEH?

2001-10-11 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Depends on what version of Windows you are on. Farsi is not officially supported in all code points for cp1256. This one is supported in WinME, Win2000, and WinXP. It maps to 0xED on cp1256 when it does map? MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Orig

Re: Unicode locale id

2001-10-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
The locale choice covers all of Unicode; the choice of 1033 just means that the standard collation table is going to be used, with no specific "exceptions" that many other languages require. More info on collation in SQL Server can be found in the following white paper (it discusses 7.0 as well):

Re: Gujarati IME for win2k?

2001-10-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Gujarati does not require an IME at all; it is not a script with that huge of repetoire! It does require a keyboard though have you looked into Windows XP for this? It provides not only a keyboard but also an OpenType font and collation data, as well. MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Softw

Re: Deseret keyboard (was:Re: Special Type Sorts Tray 2001)

2001-10-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Well, careful now. The language is English. You mean "someone who uses the > script." Yes, that is what I meant... I was referring to users of the script. Though I suppose if they were going to try to tackle the original inner and outer plates it would not be English

Re: Special Type Sorts Tray 2001

2001-10-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I still live in hopes that someone, John or someone else, will one > day send me a Deseret keyboard layout that is at least SLIGHTLY > standard (meaning more than one person has ever used it). > > I need something I can download and read on a Windows machine. > Text or

Re: Special Type Sorts Tray 2001

2001-10-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "John H. Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 5:28 PM +0100 10/2/01, Michael Everson wrote: > > > >The CSUR is maintained to support scripts of various kinds. Some of > >those (Shavian, Deseret, Tengwar, Cirth) are expected to "graduate" > >into Unicode. > > And one of them already has! And I

Re: Special Type Sorts Tray 2001 (derives from Egyptian Transliteration Characters)

2001-10-02 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "William Overington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is there an official Unicode Consortium statement that states, for the > record, that the Unicode Consortium refuses to encode more ligatures and > precomposed characters please? I think it is quite clearly stated that the ones that ARE present ar

Re: Shape of the US Dollar Sign

2001-09-28 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
I tend to look up on the following site, where such info can always be found tucked away: http://www.uselessknowledge.com/word/dollar.shtml MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "Winkler, Arnold F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

INFO: Extension A and B on Windows... and/or in your browser

2001-09-27 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
[With permission from Microsoft], I had the help file for the Extension A & B IME/font that ships with Office XP (CHS and Hong Kong editions) translated into English, those who are interested in reading a bit on Microsoft's efforts to provide an IME to handle these characters can see it here: htt

Re: GB18030

2001-09-27 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Yung-Fong Tang > Case mapping ? You have no way to generate mapping table for > case mapping with knowing the character unless you already > define those character have no case or only one case. Um, Unicode defines a behavior and even properties for unassigned code points. If you choose no

Re: GB18030

2001-09-27 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Yung-Fong Tang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Can anyone tell me where can I find a online version of the GB18030 > standard (yes, I want the STANDARD itself. Not someone's paper talk > about the standard) . Or anyone could tell me where to get a copy of the > standard. You mean the original Chin

Re: GB18030

2001-09-26 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Geoffrey Waigh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It shouldn't require honest-to-goodness we-were't-kidding > see-here's-one-defined-now characters In many cases, it did. > for developers to slap themselves on the head They did -- and they are slapping others around them, too. > and start devel

Re: 3rd-party cross-platform UTF-8 support

2001-09-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Tom Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > But if I have a text string, and that string is encoded in UTF-16, and > I want to access Unicode character values, then I cannot index that > string in constant time. > > To find character n I have to walk all of the 16-bit values in that > string accoun

Re: UTF-8 <> UCS-2/UTF-16 conversion for library use

2001-09-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Ayers, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Analyze problem. Pick solution. In that order. Wiser advise was ne'er spoken, on *this* topic at least. I wonder is there is some way that a policy decision can be made to declare a moratorium on the whole "*My* UTF is better than *your* UTF" for a wh

Re: a joke

2001-09-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Suzanne M. Topping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: Michael Everson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Three fonts walk into a bar. The barman, wiping a glass, shakes his > > head and says to them: "I'll have none of your type in here." > > Gee, and I thought he was going to say: > > "Why th

Re: 3rd-party cross-platform UTF-8 support

2001-09-22 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why would UTF-16 be easier for internal processing than UTF-8? > Both are variable-length encodings. Good straw man! Working with UTF-16 is immensely easier than working with UTF-8. As I am am sure you know! :-) MichKa Michael Kaplan Tr

Re: discontent about Indic scripts and Unicode

2001-09-19 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > However, I do not understand the TSCII for Tamil. Unicode > provides the script separation that they want. TSCII is mostly out of favor now (tamil.net being the main exception, and that only because its webmaster hates all established standards for do

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-19 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Ayers, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: John Cowan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] scripsit: > > > Oops! One of two "Unicode 101" mistakes I made in the > > > same day. Where was my brain? > > Unicode Ate Your Brain, of course! (See my tutorial at > > Orlando thi

Re: discontent about Indic scripts and Unicode

2001-09-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This is the same problem that was discussed extensively for Tamil at TI2001 in Kuala Lampur last month. Basically, it boils down to three problems: 1) Most of the people involved do not understand Unicode or how it works. 2) Most of the people involved expect natural language processing to be a f

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It would seem to be that if you either have to change the UTF-8 code to > support CESU-8 or change the UTF-16 compare logic then changing the UTF-16 > logic to do code point order compares is a much more containable change with > a much lower processing

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "John Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > False. > > IANA's registry is merely de facto: what they register is not in fact > encodings, but *names* of encodings. The charset name "ISO646-DE" is > legal as an XML encoding, but it would astonish me if any extant > XML parser supports it. (This is

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In actuality it would be difficult for IANA to deny a character set for any > "official" character set so the decision is actually up to the Unicode > committee. I concur. > I don't believe that the idea of registering CESU-8 with IANA came from the >

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > - A significant reason for CESU-8 garnering enough support was that its > introduction allows the definition of UTF-8 itself to be tightened, to > formally exclude the 3-byte surrogates both in reading and writing. I do not see this as a valid argument at

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If Michka is referring to non-compliant CESU-8 parsers, I really > wouldn't care much because CESU-8 is supposed to live in its > own little private world. But if people start compromising their > UTF-8 parsers to accommodate CESU-8 "adaptively," it would > be a great

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-17 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marco Cimarosti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Does renaming "UTF-8S" to "CESU-8" fix all the issues that were > discussed on this mailing list at the beginning of last spring? In my opinion (and the opinion of some others), no. But they do represent the *attempt* to answer them. > Specifically:

Re: CESU-8 vs UTF-8

2001-09-15 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Carl, Doug, The issues you and Doug brought up were vigorously discussed. For the decision, all I can say is that not everyone voted for it (which will be a matter of public record once the preliminary minutes are posted). D> This section of the TR amazed me. In the Summary and D> elsewhere, CE

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-14 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Ayers, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Not in the best mood, am I? Well, you did forget the all important "My encoding is better than your encoding!" at the end. :-) MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/

Re: PDUTR #26 posted

2001-09-14 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:52:04 -0700, Asmus Freytag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > utf-8 cannot as readily be used as internal format. > > It's as easy as UTF-16. Unless you want a broken implementation which > treats surrogates as pairs of characters.

Re: What code point is assigned for the Newton unit?

2001-09-12 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Actually, you are mistaken. The decision to encode the Angstrom sign had more to do with the fact that it ws encoded in many legacy encoding sets. There is no specific rule that every unit sign must also be encoded. If you can use Unicode to properly store and render what you need, then there is

Re: Terroists attacks & the status of Unicode Conference

2001-09-11 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
More importantly, many speakers coming in later in the week are NOT YET in San Jose -- not sure what effect this will have on things. MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: Carl W. Brown To: Mark Davis ; Unicode Sent: Tuesda

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

2001-09-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Mark Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Michael, that isn't the point. There is a problem even when you stick to one > language. > > That is, there are situations where two letters in a language, e.g. "ch" in > Slovak, are normally sorted as one. However, in some exceptional > circumstances thos

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

2001-09-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Real-life sorts, like MS Windows sorting or Linux sorting, actually adheres > to these Danish rules, once you have set up your machine for Danish. And this is the *true* answer to the whole mess of attempting *multilingual* sorts -- once the user

Re: [OT] o-circumflex

2001-09-07 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "David Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As a practical matter, you need to take the diacritics into account when > sorting, even in English where they (may or may not) have linguistic > significance, otherwise you'll get nondeterministic behaviour. In other > words, résumé and resume should

Re: Using Unicode fonts for plaintext display on windows 2000

2001-09-05 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Well, my big guesses: 1) not using the right function get the text in (using WM_SETTEXT via SendMessageA, TextOutA, ExtTextOutA) or 2) not creating the window via the right function (using CreateWindowExA) Those are the only two ways that the script should affect things on Win9x. Note that VB

Re: Using Unicode fonts for plaintext display on windows 2000

2001-09-05 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
/ - Original Message - From: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Unicoders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gary Clink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:06 PM Subjec

Re: Using Unicode fonts for plaintext display on windows 2000

2001-09-05 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
The script setting will not really end up being used in this case. It is present because it is a fundamental member of the LOGFONT structure, but it is only used in cases where a device context will not be using Unicode and needs an intelligent guess as to what code page to use for rendering. Thi

Re: TOP/BOTTOM HORIZONTAL BOX LINE: new characters?

2001-09-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Generally speaking, these characters are not being added due to the UTC choosing to "round out the collection in what seems to be productive ways" so much as responding to actual requests from customers, members, and experts on the various scripts. Is there an actual case to be made for the usefu

Re: UTF-8 on NT

2001-09-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This is not an NT issue so much as a Visual C++ CRT issue (the setloale function is implemented there, for what you are probably using). At present, there is no support for this (take a look at the code if you need to know why, it makes all kinds of assumptions like "one byte per character" that w

Re: MSLU

2001-09-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
MSLU is documented in the Platform SDK. BUT you are not going to get Unicode *functionality* from MSLU, from VB or elsewhere; MSLU only gives you a wrapper layer (and it converts after that), so the work you would do to make it callable from VB would not actually be beneficial? MichKa Michael K

Re: japanese xml

2001-09-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "KUSANO Takayuki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This is only a problem for people who do not want to use Unicode. > > But, most people can't live without 'legacy' encodings, because > there are many documents, data in 'legacy' encodings and there are > stille many applications/terminals that ca

Re: japanese xml

2001-09-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "David Starner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Frankly, the attitude of "Forget all the stuff that you have working; > just throw it all away and move to Unicode" is not one that wins many > converts. Backward compatibility and the ability to interface with > other systems running different stuff is

Re: japanese xml

2001-09-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "David Starner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This is only a problem for people who do not want to use Unicode. > > No! It's a problem with anyone who has to interoperate with people using > non-Unicode systems or needs to use legacy data. Would you be that dismissive > about it if each ISO-8859-

Re: japanese xml

2001-09-03 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
This is only a problem for people who do not want to use Unicode. It is certainly not Unicode's fault that the various [vendor-provided] versions of standards are incomplete or that they conflict with each other. Well, I suppose you could also blame Misha, for thinking that EUC-JP + NCRs would be

Re: Anyone see this?

2001-09-01 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Well, clearly its a hoax. The "assimilated press" has always been this way. Kind of amusing, in its own way. But no, there is no Klingon Freedom League, and speakers/attendees do not have to fear problems with protests in San Jose surrounding the conference. :-) MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal

Re: win95

2001-08-31 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I had presumed that he was able to get Unicode support on NT but not 95. I > did something like this for a VB 3.0 application by writing controls to > extend the language. Indeed, you can get Unicode support on NT -- but that is *real* Unicode support.

Re: win95

2001-08-31 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Microsoft now has a solution for you. You can add Unicode support to > Win95/98/Me http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/Articles/mslu_announce.asp Well, as wonderful as I think MSLU is (not that I am biased or anything) it is not going to add Unicode su

Re: Nonsense in http://www.unicode.org/Public/PROGRAMS/CVTUTF/CVTUTF.C?

2001-08-22 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Functions ConvertUCS4toUTF8 and ConvertUTF8toUCS4 use surrogates > in UCS4. In particular ConvertUTF8toUCS4 converts a character above > U+ into two UCS4 words. Why is this absurd there?! UCS-4 has no knowledge of surrogate code points

Re: exchanging Arabic data in utf-8

2001-08-22 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Iman Saad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I tried adding the following header in the section > of the cgi script that includes the html code, but that did not change > anything: > > If you look at the following link (all on one line) http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/chars

Re: Big question: CJK font support in systems and applications

2001-08-08 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Adam Twardoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have just finished reading Ken Lude's "CJKV Information Processing" > (O'Reilly, 1999). While I found much of the information contained in that > book highly helpful, I can't help the feeling that its structure might need > a slightly more systemmatic

Re: Codepage

2001-08-01 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
Microsoft's Euro story can be seen at: http://www.microsoft.com/europe/euro/ Specifically, the Windows info is at http://microsoft.com/windows/euro.asp There is no way to arbitarily add code points to a Windows code page, though. Either you have the patch or the newest file, or you do not. If

Re: some kind of virus?

2001-07-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
I have gotten roughly 100 of them, from various email addresses on my web site. michka - Original Message - From: "Carl W. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:47 AM Subject: RE: some kind of virus? > M

Re: some kind of virus?

2001-07-24 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
The cause of the virus is a web crawler. I suspect that they are pulling them off of the yahoo archive site. michka - Original Message - From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:39 AM Subject: OT: some kind of virus? > I KNOW th

Re: RTF language codes

2001-07-23 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marc Durdin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> I must disagree with this statement. I know of quite a few changes to the > >LCID list, some of which have caused me considerable pain in the past. > > > >Any of them in winnt.h? > > Try Serbo-Croatian. Documents created with the old Cyrillic LCID de

Re: RTF language codes

2001-07-23 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Marc Durdin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I must disagree with this statement. I know of quite a few changes to the LCID list, some of which have caused me considerable pain in the past. Any of them in winnt.h? > So, there are significant issues with Microsoft's LCIDs: > > 1. The tables are no

Re: RTF language codes

2001-07-23 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "jgo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "The following table defines the standard languages used by Microsoft. > This table was generated by the Unicode group for use with TrueType > and Unicode. > I don't see such a table via search from the Unicode site. > Is this just another M$ non-standard "stand

Re: Unicode and windows menus

2001-07-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Richard, Francois M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Alternately, the program would have to use owner draw to > > handle the menu > > captions (where it could of course use any font it wanted to!). > Back to the original discussion related to Windows display of Chinese > characters, > we have an

Re: Unicode and windows menus

2001-07-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "11 digit boy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I tried that and it didn't work. I was using Windows 98. > Windows 98 is a major mojibaka. Look Robert, if you want to try to interject your unique and non-funny type humor/confusion into conversations between regulars here who know how to take you (whi

Re: Unicode and windows menus

2001-07-18 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Dennis L. Goyette Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Anybody have any idea of how to display chinese characters in windows menus > bars? All I get is parallel bars. thanks This would mean that the font choice for menus is not one that will accept Chinese characters and you need to change

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

2001-07-14 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Then it's not standard and can't be relied upon. Pity. Actually, it is a standard, as of HTML 4.0. All you need is compliant browser. MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

2001-07-14 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
michka the only book on internationalization in VB at http://www.i18nWithVB.com/ - Original Message - From: "Michael Everson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Is there Unicode mail out there? > At 09:49 -0700 2001-07-14, Ma

Re: Is there Unicode mail out there?

2001-07-11 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Can you read this? This is coming from Lotus Notes. > > Yes, it looks like you are confused (all those question marks!) MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/

Re: Erratum in Unicode book

2001-07-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: "James Kass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So, can Internet Explorer now display non-BMP characters ?! > Still not having any luck on Windows M.E. with Marco Cimarosti's java > charts. Any suggestions? Thus far, I can make it work on Windows 2000 and Windows XP (with IE5.0, 5.5, and 6.0) but on

Re: regarding unicode input

2001-07-10 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
If you mean under Windows, then the answer is that they return Unicode in Unicode applications. Perhaps more details on the platform you are using? MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: "Adarsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[E

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