Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-04 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Mar 3, 2016, at 2:30 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 3/3/2016 8:22 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: >> Slightly off-the-subject, but for usability, command-9 and command-0 are a >> PITA to reach for me, as a right-hander, when my right is usually on the >> trackpad or mouse. > > I changed this years ago

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-04 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-03 20:33, Richard Gaskin wrote: As for the Inspector, it may be time to consider a property sheet rather than manually arranged control layouts. VB and Toolbook use prop sheets and I love having absolutely every property available in one place. Helps with learning too, so folks can

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-04 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-04 02:49, Richard Gaskin wrote: AFAIK this has always been how it works. In fact I discussed this with Dr. Raney shortly after if was implemented, and in his view it works as spec'd: when you mouseDown anywhere in browser mode it doesn't do marquee select, so when an individual

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Paul Hibbert wrote: > Having read some of the posts, especially from RG, I’m now trying to > work in LC without the Tools Palette or the ToolBar being visible... This has made living lean a little easier for me: -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 4 Mar 2016, at 12:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > AFAIK this has always been how it works. In fact I discussed this with Dr. > Raney shortly after if was implemented, and in his view it works as spec'd: > when you mouseDown anywhere in browser mode it

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 4 Mar 2016, at 8:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Ironically, drag-select is the exact use case that prompted me >> to STOP using cantSelect. I was working on a drawing pane and >> had an object covering the full space within the drawing region >> behind everything

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
I made a custom plugin stack. In the plugin settings, it's set to open invisibly on startup. In the plugin stack script: on preOpenStack insert script of btn "abc" into front insert script of btn "xyz" into back -- a bunch of other customizations end preOpenStack Works great, I forget

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/03/2016 02:44 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: How do you go about inserting this everytime you boot? Put it in a plugin stack Plugin's stackPreOpenStack inserts the script in front Set the plugin to run when the IDE launches -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 4 Mar 2016, at 8:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Ironically, drag-select is the exact use case that prompted me to STOP using > cantSelect. I was working on a drawing pane and had an object covering the > full space within the drawing region behind

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
How do you go about inserting this everytime you boot? On March 3, 2016 at 9:30:17 AM, J. Landman Gay (jac...@hyperactivesw.com) wrote: I changed this years ago in a custom frontscript: on tabKey if controlkey() = "down" then if the tool = "pointer tool" then

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > On 03/03/2016 11:52 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: >> Not sure about LC8, but up until now, I've used the cantSelect >> property to create styled background regions on top of which >> foreground objects can be selected. One example is the checkerboard >> pattern that's often used

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/03/2016 11:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: As for the Inspector, it may be time to consider a property sheet rather than manually arranged control layouts. VB and Toolbook use prop sheets and I love having absolutely every property available in one place. Helps with learning too, so folks

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/03/2016 11:52 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Not sure about LC8, but up until now, I've used the cantSelect property to create styled background regions on top of which foreground objects can be selected. One example is the checkerboard pattern that's often used in graphics applications to

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Kerner
Whoops - filter box gone in 8. My bad. On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Not sure about LC8, but up until now, I've used the cantSelect property to > create styled background regions on top of which foreground objects can be > selected. One example

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Scott Rossi
Not sure about LC8, but up until now, I've used the cantSelect property to create styled background regions on top of which foreground objects can be selected. One example is the checkerboard pattern that's often used in graphics applications to indicate a transparent background. By enabling a

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 4 Mar 2016, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> >> I'm also curious now about the use case for cantSelect > > I've used it before with large background images Ke graphics. > It's pretty annoying to be trying to drag select multiple objects > above another object that

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/3/2016 8:22 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: Slightly off-the-subject, but for usability, command-9 and command-0 are a PITA to reach for me, as a right-hander, when my right is usually on the trackpad or mouse. I changed this years ago in a custom frontscript: on tabKey if controlkey() = "down"

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Monte Goulding
I've used it before with large background images Ke graphics. It's pretty annoying to be trying to drag select multiple objects above another object that you don't want to start dragging around... Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Mar 2016, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > >

Toggling Browse-edit modes (was Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues)

2016-03-03 Thread Devin Asay
> On Mar 3, 2016, at 7:22 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: > Slightly off-the-subject, but for usability, command-9 and command-0 are a > PITA to reach for me, as a right-hander, when my right is usually on the > trackpad or mouse. Remember the HC days where it was cmd-tab,

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Paul Hibbert
Mike, I don’t see a search field in the Project Browser, this is what it looks like when it errors… https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3u68fott2n5npd/Screenshot%202016-03-03%2008.46.32.png?dl=0 Thanks for replying anyway. Paul > On Mar 3, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Mike Kerner

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Paul Hibbert
Thank you for your reply Mark, it’s good to know the teams perspective on these things. Unfortunately, finding a reproducible set of steps isn’t proving easy, I’m currently having problems with the Message Box and Project Browser (Bug: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17048 ), where

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Kerner
Paul, You can also click in the search field and then click outside of it to force a refresh. Mark, I have a bug report in for an issue with the PB not populating when a stack loads. I don't think it has been dealt with, yet. On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Mark Waddingham

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-03 01:55, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/02/2016 02:21 PM, panagiotis merakos wrote: The "mysterious lock icon with a 'Show' tootip" is setting the cantSelect property of the control. The tooltip should reflect that though, so we have to update it. I'm curious, though, about the

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-03 16:35, Mark Wieder wrote: I'm also curious now about the use case for cantSelect. I realize it's not going away since it's always been there, but I'm having trouble coming up with a scenario in which this is useful. My worry is that we're putting a pretty obscure setting front and

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/03/2016 01:09 AM, panagiotis merakos wrote: Hi Mark, I think the cantSelect property was always settable from within the Project Browser. The reasons are discussed in http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16416 Hope this helps, Thanks - that does help. I have to say, though,

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-03 16:02, Paul Hibbert wrote: On the subject of improving the Project Browser, I would like to see a ‘Refresh’ button added to this palette, probably in the header bar by the gear icon. Sometimes the PB doesn’t always update in the way you would expect and the only way to refresh it

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Paul Hibbert
On the subject of improving the Project Browser, I would like to see a ‘Refresh’ button added to this palette, probably in the header bar by the gear icon. Sometimes the PB doesn’t always update in the way you would expect and the only way to refresh it right now is to close and re-open the

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread Mike Kerner
I also agree that tools/widgets should be cleaned up. The number of button and field tools, in an age of widgets, especially, is too many. Slightly off-the-subject, but for usability, command-9 and command-0 are a PITA to reach for me, as a right-hander, when my right is usually on the trackpad

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread RM
On 2.03.2016 23:57, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 02/03/2016 21:45, Roger Eller wrote: I very much dislike those super dark icons in the new IDE. Especially when the icons in the Tools menu are a completely different shade of gray. They should be consistent across the IDE. I also dislike

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-03 Thread panagiotis merakos
Hi Mark, I think the cantSelect property was always settable from within the Project Browser. The reasons are discussed in http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16416 Hope this helps, Panos -- On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 2:55 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > On 03/02/2016

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/2/2016 11:29 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: >2) we cannot resize the content area for fields of custom props! ouch! Yes it would seem reasonable to allow us to resize the custom control pane down enlarging the value field and put scrollbars on it. Perhaps the option to turn on and off

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Erik Beugelaar
I totally agree with the comments from Jacqueline. Sent from Matwetwe < http://www.about.me/beugelaar > On 03:26, Mar 3, 2016, at 03:26, Roland Huettmann wrote: >I really like this comment from Jacqueline. > >Who does not eat with the eyes??? > >An ugly apple is

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/2/2016 10:27 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: 4) no tool tips for the icons at the top. Those who have poor visual memory (many coders do) will have this subtle "what does the icon do" reaction. Please add the tool tips. I need those too. The tooltips are actually there, they just

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 3 Mar 2016, at 3:27 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami > wrote: > > 0) Script editor needs its own top level icon in the Prop inspector! Already > requested, but in DP15 it did not happen. If you need space then move the > geometry manager icon off to the advanced pull

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
On March 2, 2016 at 4:29:17 PM, J. Landman Gay (jac...@hyperactivesw.com) wrote: > The idea was to be able to select things in the PB that may not be in > view, even on totally different cards or stacks, and be able to work > with them without going there.

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/2/2016 7:11 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/02/2016 04:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I do favor functionality over appearance, but the sad fact is that new users will base their first impressions of the product on how it looks. These are some of the small details that matter for a

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Roland Huettmann
I really like this comment from Jacqueline. Who does not eat with the eyes??? An ugly apple is not purchased even if much more tasty. Roland On Thu, Mar 3, 2016, 01:11 J. Landman Gay wrote: > On March 2, 2016 4:43:21 PM Richard Gaskin >

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 02:08 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: Thanks -- that's a much more complete / thorough explanation than I managed to give. The Project Browser tries to fit a lot of features into a small amount of space and I'm not convinced that we've found the most efficient way to pack them. In the

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 3 Mar 2016, at 11:55 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > I'm curious, though, about the decision process that moved the cantSelect > property up the pantheon of properties out of the Property Inspector and into > the Project Browser. Is there something particular about

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 3 Mar 2016, at 11:09 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > On March 2, 2016 4:43:21 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Given this, I wonder if it makes more communicative sense to consider >> moving the basic controls above the Widgets, closer to

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 04:09 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I do favor functionality over appearance, but the sad fact is that new users will base their first impressions of the product on how it looks. These are some of the small details that matter for a professional presentation. Coming soon...

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 02:21 PM, panagiotis merakos wrote: The "mysterious lock icon with a 'Show' tootip" is setting the cantSelect property of the control. The tooltip should reflect that though, so we have to update it. Ah. Thanks. I'm curious, though, about the decision process that moved the

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On March 2, 2016 4:43:21 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: Given this, I wonder if it makes more communicative sense to consider moving the basic controls above the Widgets, closer to the always-used Browse and Pointer icons. That was one of the things on my imaginary

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I haven't used the Tools palette in years, but this conversation prompted > me to take a gander. > > I wonder if having the Widgets above the basic controls is the best place > for them. > > Tools palette.

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Peter Haworth
An lcstackbrowser user requested the "single tool with option to set the style "some time ago and I implemented it. It takes a lot less screen space and I think is useful for experienced users but might be a little daunting for new users. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:56 PM Devin Asay

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
I haven't used the Tools palette in years, but this conversation prompted me to take a gander. I wonder if having the Widgets above the basic controls is the best place for them. I tend to think of UIs as telling a story, and sometimes that can include communicating the importance of things

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Terry Judd
On 3/03/2016 9:26 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Roger Eller" wrote: >Tools pallette (not menu). Yes, the widget icons are gray, but the new >flat icons across the top (Inspector, Code, Message Box, etc.) are pure

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 02/03/2016 21:45, Roger Eller wrote: > >> >> I very much dislike those super dark icons in the new IDE. Especially >> when >> the icons in the Tools menu are a completely different shade of gray. >> They >>

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread panagiotis merakos
The "mysterious lock icon with a 'Show' tootip" is setting the cantSelect property of the control. The tooltip should reflect that though, so we have to update it. Panos -- On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:08 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 02/03/2016 16:28, Mark Wieder

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 02/03/2016 16:28, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/01/2016 11:39 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: You can double click on an item in the Project Browser to select it on the card. Empirically... You can double click on an item's icon to do that. Double-clicking on the name allows you to edit the name.

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 02/03/2016 21:45, Roger Eller wrote: I very much dislike those super dark icons in the new IDE. Especially when the icons in the Tools menu are a completely different shade of gray. They should be consistent across the IDE. I also dislike jerks. Thank you. Which specific "icons in the

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Roger Eller
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On 02/03/2016 17:23, RM wrote: > >> +1 >> > > Please don't do this. If you don't have anything substantive to > contribute to the conversation, please don't waste the inbox space of > hundreds of mailing list

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 02/03/2016 17:23, RM wrote: +1 Please don't do this. If you don't have anything substantive to contribute to the conversation, please don't waste the inbox space of hundreds of mailing list users. Peter -- Dr Peter Brett LiveCode Open

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 11:53 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Oh yes, absolutely, and I've found the team to be remarkably responsive. I was very impressed with Ali, he really listened and was intent on making the IDE as perfect as possible. I wanted to hug him, I was that happy. And not just Ali, the whole

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 12:10 PM, RM wrote: I am actually quite curious as to why the Livecode team decided to change the Properties palette so radically. To be fair about that, the current/previous/whatever property inspector leaves a lot to be desired. There's been much complaining over the

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread RM
On 2.03.2016 21:53, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/2/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: Just to clarify my comment, what I was trying to point out (in an attempt at a humourous way) is that invoking a 'interface designer' does not magically mean you end up with a user interface which any one

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/2/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: Just to clarify my comment, what I was trying to point out (in an attempt at a humourous way) is that invoking a 'interface designer' does not magically mean you end up with a user interface which any one person agrees with, or actually works for all

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread RM
On 2.03.2016 19:13, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/02/2016 08:04 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: I do think this has been occurring quite healthily recently with regards LC8 and, indeed, some of the tweaks that have been made to the project browser (in particular its selection / highlighting logic)

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > The tiny gray-on-gray icons, though, are another matter. I shudder to > think of the universe in which someone thought that was a Good Idea. At the top of the window or somewhere else? At once point I'd submitted a request to use the large icon option for the top panel as

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread RM
On 2.03.2016 19:13, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/02/2016 08:04 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: I do think this has been occurring quite healthily recently with regards LC8 and, indeed, some of the tweaks that have been made to the project browser (in particular its selection / highlighting logic)

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 09:09 AM, Tore Nilsen wrote: Have you tried looking for it in LC 8, which seems to be the version discussed in this thread? Read the previous post. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 09:05 AM, John Dixon wrote: Anyone in Edinburgh considered asking Scott Rossi how much time he has on his hands ? :-) LOL. +1 -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 08:04 AM, Mark Waddingham wrote: I do think this has been occurring quite healthily recently with regards LC8 and, indeed, some of the tweaks that have been made to the project browser (in particular its selection / highlighting logic) have been a direct result of discussion with

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Tore Nilsen
Have you tried looking for it in LC 8, which seems to be the version discussed in this thread? Tore > 2. mar. 2016 kl. 18.02 skrev Mark Wieder : > > On 03/02/2016 08:23 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: >> On 02/03/2016 16:15, Mark Wieder wrote: >>> On 03/01/2016 11:39 PM,

RE: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread John Dixon
> > Indeed - perfection is a journey, not a destination. > > Just to clarify my comment, what I was trying to point out (in an > attempt at a humourous way) is that invoking a 'interface designer' does > not magically mean you end up with a user interface which any one person > agrees with,

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/02/2016 08:23 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: On 02/03/2016 16:15, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/01/2016 11:39 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: You can double click on an item in the Project Browser to select it on the card. OK - that's getting pinned on the wall as well. Is this stuff documented

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-02 16:44, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Waddingham wrote: On 2016-03-02 06:46, J. Landman Gay wrote: I confess my first reaction was that LC needs an interface designer. Ah - yes - those magical 'interface designers' who you just ask to give you the perfect UI that *everyone*

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/01/2016 11:39 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: You can double click on an item in the Project Browser to select it on the card. Empirically... You can double click on an item's icon to do that. Double-clicking on the name allows you to edit the name. Single-clicking a line in the PB has no

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 02/03/2016 16:15, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/01/2016 11:39 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: You can double click on an item in the Project Browser to select it on the card. OK - that's getting pinned on the wall as well. Is this stuff documented somewhere? See

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/01/2016 11:39 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: You can double click on an item in the Project Browser to select it on the card. OK - that's getting pinned on the wall as well. Is this stuff documented somewhere? The User Guide is missing in action (bug 17054) and the "All User Guides" menu

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2016-03-02 06:46, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> I confess my first reaction was that LC needs an interface designer. > > Ah - yes - those magical 'interface designers' who you just ask to > give you the perfect UI that *everyone* immediately understands and > knows how to

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Tore Nilsen
> 2. mar. 2016 kl. 09.39 skrev Mark Waddingham : > > On 2016-03-02 06:46, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> I confess my first reaction was that LC needs an interface designer. > > Ah - yes - those magical 'interface designers' who you just ask to give you > the perfect UI that

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread RM
I designed an interface for my Devawriter Pro [ go and have a look at it: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/dwriterpro.html ]. Frankly I am well aware it is horrible because it is cluttered to blazes with all sorts of fancy features I built into the thing along the way. It is meant to

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-02 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-03-02 06:46, J. Landman Gay wrote: I confess my first reaction was that LC needs an interface designer. Ah - yes - those magical 'interface designers' who you just ask to give you the perfect UI that *everyone* immediately understands and knows how to use and works exactly how each

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 02/03/2016 00:08, J. Landman Gay wrote: In the Project Browser, the dotted selections are the objects selected on the card. You can't alter dotted-line selections from within the PB, you need to open the property inspector for that. You can double click on an item in the Project Browser to

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 8:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: On 03/01/2016 04:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/1/2016 5:23 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Don't use the Project Browser so can't comment on the second issue It's confusing, Ali had to explain it to me. I still mostly use the App Browser because I need

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread Mark Wieder
On 03/01/2016 04:08 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 3/1/2016 5:23 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Don't use the Project Browser so can't comment on the second issue It's confusing, Ali had to explain it to me. I still mostly use the App Browser because I need the column layout. In the Project Browser,

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/1/2016 5:23 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: Don't use the Project Browser so can't comment on the second issue It's confusing, Ali had to explain it to me. I still mostly use the App Browser because I need the column layout. In the Project Browser, the dotted selections are the objects

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread William Prothero
Tnx Peter: It’s indeed a feature! Thanks. Best, Bill > On Mar 1, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > > > On 01/03/2016 22:28, William Prothero wrote: > >> The first thing I’ve noticed is that selecting objects in the Project >> Browser and stack window is

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Haworth
I've also noticed the first issue you mentioned. In my case, it's not so much that clicking an object doesn't select but trying to grab the handles to resize an object has to be very accurate or the object is deselected. I guess I should enter a QCC report. Don't use the Project Browser so

Re: LC8DP15 feedback-IDE Issues

2016-03-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/03/2016 22:28, William Prothero wrote: The first thing I’ve noticed is that selecting objects in the Project Browser and stack window is poor. In 7.1 versions and older, when I clicked on an object on the stack window, it would hilite the corresponding entry on the project browser.