Same here! Please fix this. It is blocking for me. Help is very much
appreciated! I need TestNG 5.5 so I need 2.4-SNAPSHOT...
Jan-Christopher Bals-2 wrote:
Hi!
I have got the same problem.
Can anyone fix the pom?
[WARNING] POM for
'org.apache.maven.surefire:surefire-booter:pom:2.4
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Hi!
I have got the same problem.
Can anyone fix the pom?
[WARNING] POM
Hi!
I have got the same problem.
Can anyone fix the pom?
[WARNING] POM for
'org.apache.maven.surefire:surefire-booter:pom:2.4-SNAPSHOT:runtime' is
invalid. It will be ignored for artifact resolution. Reason: Failed to
validate POM
Jan
2007/5/31, mhargus [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm getting
with the -U flag to get the update and see if that helps?
If not, can you try with -DuseSystemClassLoader=false?
Thanks,
Brett
On 01/06/07, Jan Arend Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Same here! Please fix this. It is blocking for me. Help is very much
appreciated! I need TestNG 5.5 so I need
On 01/06/07, Jan Arend Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Same here! Please fix this. It is blocking for me. Help is very much
appreciated! I need TestNG 5.5 so I need 2.4-SNAPSHOT...
Jan-Christopher Bals-2 wrote:
Hi!
I have got the same problem.
Can anyone fix the pom?
[WARNING
Hi,
for automates project-creating, i'd like to define the packaging
parameter, set in a pom when creating submodules. Is that possible? As far
as I read the documentation it is not, so why?
Jan
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I have a project with submodules. One of this modules is a tomcat servlet
and I'd like to save the -Dwtpversion=1.5 parameter in the pom, if
possible, so I can run mvn eclipse:eclipse in the root module and have
only in my -http module the wtp extension enabled.
Is that possible?
Jan
with
plugin
nameMaven axis2-aar Plugin/name
prefixaar/prefix
artifactIdmaven-axis2-aar-plugin/artifactId
/plugin
What am I missing?
Regards,
On 5/15/07, Gert-Jan Braas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is there a maven command which lists all the installed plugins and/or
gorals
It looks like I not fully aware of all the ins and outs.
I will remove all references from my repository, and try again.
thanx,
Gert-Jan
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Hi,
is there a maven command which lists all the installed plugins and/or gorals?
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Gert-Jan Braas
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van
try setting the maximu heap size.
-Xmxsizeset maximum Java heap size
I think you can do that in the mvn file (linux: which mvn)
I got the following error while executing the mvn site command
...
[ERROR] BUILD FAILURE
[INFO]
a ...-common package, or pack the Interface in the core?
Jan
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matter?
I'm a complete maven newbie, so every held is appreciated.
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need more
information about this parent pom? Or is this error message unrelated
to my problem? Any ideas/suggestions?
Many thanks!
Jan
in test scope instead of compile scope, app
with pom4 won't build anymore.
I now fixed this by adding the pom2 dependency in pom4.
This issue should be fixed since 2.0.3, is it possible this bug has
sneaked back in?
Kind Regards,
Jan
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/id
properties
someserver.usernamemyuser/someserver.username
someserver.passwordmypassword/someserver.password
/properties
/profile
/profiles
/settings
But when I run mvn help:effective-settings I get:
settings
localRepositoryC:\Documents and
Settings\jan\.m2
wonder if this is
an Archiva problem or a Tomcat problem... Has anyone been able to
upload artifacts over WebDAV to an Archiva deployed in Tomcat?
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Many thanks,
Jan
Hi,
We are using the maven ear plugin to build ear files containing several ejb
projects.
Each of these projects have a complex set of dependencies, not neccessarily
with
the same version. We specify the libraries to include in the ear in the
pom.xml of the
ear project, thus overriding any
Hi,
Look into the 'conf' directory in maven distribution.
Jan
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To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: M2 settings.xml
Hi
I am looking for a sample settings.xml file. Could anyone upload
I have a pom with packaging jar that contains a number of modules
(possibly nested). I have some resources that I want to be available to
all underlying poms . In my case it is a reference to a checkstyle
configuration file, but it could be anything (such as the stylesheet
used for javadoc
I was hoping I could define the resource only once. If I understand you
correctly, the plugin configuration below needs to be present in all poms?
-Original Message-
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Sent: 28. februar 2007 15:04
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Making
Hi,
Let ejb plugin generate client ejb jar. Then use dependency on this
client jar (with type jar and classifier client) instead of the
dependency on the server ejb jar (which has type ejb). This works fine.
Regards,
Jan
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Hi,
Add this to your mojo:
/**
* @parameter expression=${project}
* @readonly
*/
private MavenProject project;
See guides about plugin development in
http://maven.apache.org/guides/index.html
Regards,
Jan
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from the specified remote repositories:
central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
But my SVN-repo is on packcs-e0.scai.faunhofer.de/repos/mss/trunk and
the local repo is in /home/jwuelfin/programs/maven-2.0.4/repo
Why does it not look in any of these locations?
Thank you
Jan
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it give you this error message when you invoke maven from the
command line?
On 2/8/07, Jan-Oliver Wuelfing
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Hello to everyone,
I use the Maven 2.0.4 Eclipse Plug-in 0.0.5 and Subclipse 1.0.5 and
encountered the following error message at start-up of Eclipse
3.2.1
mss:mss:pom:0.0.1
from the specified remote repositories:
central (http://repo1.maven.org/maven2)
08.02.07 11:26:54 CET: Updated source folders for project wsag4j
Has anyone an idea?
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Jan
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3.2.1.
Has anyone an idea?
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Unfortunately I have never used it. I only know that it exists and that
it probably is what you need. But I can't give you any further
information. Probably someone else will.
Jan
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a separate build definition for tagging, because i only want to
tag my sources when the build is succesful.
Does anybody have a solution for this?
With kind regards,
Jan
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Hi,
See http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-embedding-m2.html. It
should help.
Jan
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To: users@maven.apache.org
Subject: How to run maven with java class
Hi,
I was curious if you
Hi,
You can can run maven with -X option. It prints lot of debuging info and
among others all dependencies (in tree structure). This works well with
maven 2.0.4 but does not with 2.1-SNAPSHOT. Other way is to build site
and look at the page with dependencies.
Jan
-Original Message
Hello to everybody,
I´ve encountered a prob with Eclipse´s Maven plug-in:
It prompts that a project build error exist: failed to validate pom.
Can anyone give an advice, please?
Cheers
Jan
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Hello to everybody,
I´ve encountered a prob with Eclipse´s Maven plug-in:
If I try to build the site via pom.xml clean site, Eclipse´a console
shows up the message below.
Can anyone give an advice, please?
Cheers
Jan
[INFO
annoying) and obviously it is
possible to specify invalid combinations.
Regards,
Jan
Tento e-mail je urcen pouze pro jeho adresata/adresaty a muze obsahovat duverne
informace, jejichz ochrana muze byt vyzadovana pravnimi predpisy.
Jestlize jste zpravu obdrzel(a) omylem, neprodlene informujte
Hi all,
is it possible to include a parent-link the to next upper index.html in
the 'menu'- or 'module'-section in the site.xml?
Or is there any other possibility to include automaticly?
Cheers
Jan
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- and target-structure in the
Eclipse workspace environment.
The path to my codes is:
eclipse/workspace/wsag4j/wsag4j-distributions/wsag4j-agreement-factory/src/test/java/org/ogf/graap/wsag/distributions/test/AgreementFactoryTest.java
Can anyone give me an advice?
Thanks
Regards
Jan
See http://cvs.peopleware.be/training/maven/maven2/repositories.html
On 16 Jan 2007, at 8:22, Barrie Treloar wrote:
On 1/16/07, CHHAJED, Amit, GBM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I was looking for a links which will help me in setting up a
Internal Maven
repository and things that I need
Hi all,
Iam a first time-user and use Maven´s site function to get a html-doku
Is there any apt-command to include source-code into the site, like scr?
Do I´ve to copy the code fragments and format them on my own?
Thanx
Jan
Yes, I tryed it, but I keep receiving the same warning...
log4j:WARN No appenders could be found for logger.
log4j:WARN Please initialize the log4j system properly.
J. Kauffman
On 12/22/06, Rémy Sanlaville [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you try to copy your log4j properties file in
://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-the-standard-directory-layout.html
Jan Kauffman wrote:
I'm having the same problem trying to include my log4j.properties file on
my
project.
I made it work when I create the jar file, including it into the manifest,
but when I try to 'run
I'm having the same problem trying to include my log4j.properties file on my
project.
I made it work when I create the jar file, including it into the manifest,
but when I try to 'run mvn test' command, it still answers me that log4j has
no appenders.
Does anybody know how to help solve this
Define ALL Maven2 plugins. Since Maven is an open system of
plugins, the best answer is probably Google ;-). If you mean all
build lifecycle phases, they are static, and can be found at http://
cvs.peopleware.be/training/maven/maven2/buildLifecyclePhases.html
and at other places.
On 4
If all tests pass, there is no problem … ;-)
On 15 Nov 2006, at 12:21, Dave Syer wrote:
Thanks for the reference. Can anyone tell me how come there are so
many good
projects out there using maven 2, when the support for unit test
reporting
is so poor? I can't be the only one that is
WARN: Don't go to www.mvnregistry.com! It redirects to a place that
tries to install an exe for porn. (don't worry if you're on Mac OS X
or other un*x ;-)).
Damien Lecan: I'm not amused.
On 15 Nov 2006, at 17:27, LECAN Damien wrote:
To search artifacts :
www.mvnrepository.com
version is
newer . Is there something we are doing wrong?
Best regards,
--
Jan Thomä
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Does anybody know how to execute testng suites in different maven phases?
best regards
Jan
P.S.
build
...
plugins
plugin
artifactIdmaven-surefire-plugin/artifactId
executions
execution
idtest/id
phasetest/phase
goals
goaltest/goal
/goals
Hi,
is it just me, or is the plugin documentation on the maven site gone? There
used to be a Plugins page, where i could at least see which plugins are
available and get some basic help about them. Now this is gone. Any hints
where i might look for it?
Best regards,
Jan
and fails. Is there some
way to have package automatically called by assembly, as this is very
repetitive and actually i don't see a reason why assembly does not call
package by default... Any insights are appreciated.
Thank you and best regards,
Jan
Still struggling with this The configuration below runs all my tests
in both phases. Nothing is exluded or included :-( As far as I can see,
this config is the same as the one recommended on
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-surefire-plugin/examples/inclusion
-exclusion.html, where
changed? Any insights would be helpful, as currently our build
cannot run because it needs some plugins from the snapshot repository.
On second thought - is there a mirror of the snapshot repository which i
could access meanwhile?
Best regards,
Jan Thomä
Aye, indeed, however currently we dont have them on all pcs, so getting this
up again would be really helpful - but well they are working on it :)
Best regards,
Jan
On Wednesday, 25. October 2006 16:43, pjungwir wrote:
Someone yesterday mentioned running mvn -o to prevent updating snapshots
regards
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On 13 Oct 2006, at 16:39, pjungwir wrote:
ir. ing. Jan Dockx wrote:
http://cvs.peopleware.be/training/maven/maven2/
buildLifecyclePhases.html
hope this helps.
Thanks. That is the best table I've seen so far. I eventually
figured this
out by looking here:
https://svn.apache.org
http://cvs.peopleware.be/training/maven/maven2/
buildLifecyclePhases.html
hope this helps.
On 9 Oct 2006, at 23:50, pjungwir wrote:
Jacek Laskowski-4 wrote:
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I don't know about such a pre-site phase. Indeed, I think
there's no
site phase
**/integration/**/include
/includes
/configuration
/execution
/executions
/plugin
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the plugin is tested in its own project
thus resulting in a missing ResourceLoader or some such.
Has anyone had similar problems?
Can anyone point me to a discription of the differences between how
plugins are loaded and how projects are loaded in maven?
Any other ideas?
Jan
release:prepare
install the jars locally to avoid this?
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= archetype-resources/src/main/resources/config.xml
[line 16,column 32] : ${property} is not a valid reference.
So here is my question:
Is there any way to exclude these files from filtering?
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you tried to publish javadocs/jxr/surefire/pmd... etc
for a multimodule project in an aggregated fashion?
On Wed, August 30, 2006 7:37 am, Jan Vissers wrote:
I'm reading a lot of we need about x weeks to convert to maven, the
learning curve is steep, it is messy but it works, if it cannot
The really bad documentation is already mentioned, and rightly so!
Also, I feel for multi module projects (every meaningful JEE project)
the reporting part is really awful.
There is no consistency in the reporting plugins.
Maven to me (still) looks like a great tool for single module
Maven to me (still) looks like a great tool for single module
applications/libraries - but not so much for big(ger) multi module apps.
-- When reporting is concerned.
Jan Vissers wrote:
The really bad documentation is already mentioned, and rightly so!
Also, I feel for multi module projects
I'm reading a lot of we need about x weeks to convert to maven, the
learning curve is steep, it is messy but it works, if it cannot be
done we can use ant...
More and more I'm getting the feeling that ANT still isn't such a bad
idea for building software. You can do a lot of the convention
Hi,
I'm looking for the LibCopy plugin that gets mentioned on:
http://www.stephan-schwab.com/2006/07/30/1154300365880.html
The link:
http://blogs.unixage.com/blojsom/blog/adam.kruszewski/eclipse/2006/05/02/Maven2-Eclipse-plugin-with-latest-WTP-from-callisto-update-site.html
appears to be
Hi, this is an issue that has been brought earlier...
as things stand with maven (or at least 2.0.4 which I'm checking) the
multi module / aggregated reporting sucks!
Don't know whether this is going to change any time soon.
This might well mean, that we're not leaving ANT - as one of the key
Is it possible to have *only* aggregated reports and
remove the submodule 'links' at the upper left hand
corner of the main index.html page?
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| Care to elaborate? Why unreadable?
Yes, I'm also interested in the arguments for that.
At the moment I'm responsible for a relatively big build environment
that is using ANT and also has
its fair amount of reporting done. Using ANT's functionality for
macro's, subant and what have
you the
Maven 2.0.4.
Trying to create a site for multi module project where the module links
are actually shown. Using the following command:
site:stage -DstagingDirectory=
the module links are shown, but the aggregated javadoc page on the
toplevel is empty.
Here is the reports section of my
to think that multi module reporting is not 'ready for
primetime' yet.
Multi module (aggregated) reporting is one of my main reasons to revisit
maven.
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Cannot use this report, cause it cannot be located.
Tried several things here:
according to documentation:
plugin
groupIdorg.apache.maven.plugins/groupId
artifactIdmaven-changelog-plugin/artifactId
/plugin
And according to some 'rumours' about relocation of the plugin:
like; install, package, deploy, release.
If anybody has some more information about the multi module reporting status
and how (soon) things will get better - I would definitely like to know!
Thanks,
Jan.
Jan Vissers wrote:
I'm evaluating maven 2.0.4 and am wondering what the current 'state
Hi - without the site:stage, but with the aggregate configuration
element in javadoc set to true, site will generate the javadoc at the
top level for me.
Sam Merrell wrote:
I get the same issue without aggregating my javadocs.
On 8/11/06, Jan Vissers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maven 2.0.4
Wondering whether this is default behavior.
When I generate the site for a multi module project
the contained modules are displayed at the upper-left
of the index.html page - but it is 'plain' text and no hyperlink.
How come?
-
I'm evaluating maven 2.0.4 and am wondering what the current 'state' is
for multi module reporting. I've read that there are various issues with
it. What I like to know is:
* does multi module reporting (aggregation) work for:
- surefire
- checkstyle
- jdepend
-
eclipse I use the flat layout.
I've just started with the journey and am especially interested in how
the reporting (aggregation) is going to behave.
Jan.
jan_bar wrote:
Hi,
I have spent quite a time looking for good J2EE directory layout that will
work with maven, Eclipse and SVN (CVS). It's
Probably not the best way to do it, but I used 'Scrapbook' plugin for
Firefox to get all the things I needed.
Paul Michael Reilly wrote:
As near as I can tell, all Maven2 reference documentation is on-line
accessible. I find myself on vacation now with rare and low quality
on-line access. Is
somewhere that flattening the project layout, doesn't work due
to issues with the Maven release plugin. From JIRA it seems this is still
the case. Anyone now whether there are any workarounds for this and if
their are other issues in flattening the layout?
Thanks.
Jan
project from the command
line, running mvn eclipse:eclipse and finally importing the projects into
your eclipse workspace. In both cases you will be able to synchronize your
changes using eclipse.
Simply is not true!
Can somebody confirm this,
Thanks,
Jan.
Hi,
(Using Maven 2.0.4)
I'm trying
.
Simply is not true!
Can somebody confirm this,
Thanks,
Jan.
Hi,
(Using Maven 2.0.4)
I'm trying to figure out how to use a (Maven) multi module project in
Eclipse where Subversion is the SCM. Following the Guide to using
Eclipse
with Maven 2.x somehow doesn't do it for me.
Things I
,
download, jar, repository ... gives me anything but an answer to my
problem).
Any hint, sytnax, cli-line appreciated
thanks
Jan
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I fixed it locally, but as Codehaus is/was down it hasn't been
committed yet. We are working on getting the repository back
uptodate and it should be ok by tomorrow.
regards
Jan
Brett Porter wrote:
I didn't know there was another version out, but Jan had said it was
fixed in SVN the other day
If this ant script works (it does):
==
!-- Making envirmoment variables available through env --
property environment=env /
!-- Define all properties for use in this ANT build file --
property name=name.project value=csmFrontEnd /
Hi Dan,
Jetty6 is actually faster than jetty5. Are you saying it is slower
to start or slow in serving your app? It may be slower to start because
it first needs to build a virtual webapp out of your project.
regards
Jan
Dan Adams wrote:
I used to run my add in jetty 5 using the jettylauncher
/artifactId
version /version
/dependency
/dependencies
/plugin
On the scopes, the only source of info I know about is:
http://maven.apache.org/guides/introduction/introduction-to-dependency-mechanism.html
cheers
Jan
Dan Adams wrote:
I have a web app that I run
#a1260787
http://www.nabble.com/Maven-properties-inside-java-code-t209452.html#a584456
Maven 2 is indeed much cleaner, more elegant and more powerful, but Ant's
property management is plainly better designed and implemented, I believe.
Any remarks on this?
I might be totally of mark. Am I?
Jan
If it works under eclipse, it should work under Maven. It sounds
like maybe you didn't do a clean rebuild under Maven and the
join() is still in there.
FYI, please find attached a sample test case that works just
find under Maven.
cheers
Jan
Julien Henry wrote:
Sorry if I wasn't clear
of running jetty once for all the test cases, you could do
a startup and shutdown of Jetty in the individual TestCase setUp()
and tearDown() methods, and have the surefire plugin run **/*Test.java
cheers
Jan
Julien Henry wrote:
Hi Jan,
Here is currently how it works. I have many JUnit tests
http://jetty.mortbay.org/jetty6/index.html
cheers
Jan
gdub wrote:
Stephen Duncan wrote:
Also look at the second question in this FAQ:
http://tomcat.apache.org/faq/deployment.html
It explains why reloading an app causes this problem to show up more
quickly.
The description sounds like
cntrl-c it.
There is all the information on how to configure and run the plugin
here:
http://jetty.mortbay.org/jetty6/maven-plugin/index.html
cheers
Jan
Julien Henry wrote:
Hi Jan,
I tried to migrate to Jetty 6, but there are too few doc about how to
use embedded Jetty. I discovered
loaded from the webapp's
dependencies and classes should not be leaking.
Are the spring jars explicitly on the plugin's
classpath or are they as dependencies of the
project?
regards
Jan
gdub wrote:
I use the jetty6:run (6.0 beta 9) target
to launch Jetty with my web app under
integration
resolve for you.
I suggest you switch to jetty 6.x as 1) it is built by maven2 and
2) anyway has many many less dependencies.
cheers
Jan
Julien Henry wrote:
Hi,
I'm using Jetty to test my project. I have this in my pom (I use JSP) :
dependency
groupIdjetty/groupId
classpath. This would mean
that the class that is loaded via the system classpath never
changes with a webapp reload, but the class from your webapp
will change with every restart (because the classloader is
different, so you'll get ClassCast exceptions).
regards
Jan
Burkhard Graves wrote:
Hi
Rolf,
FYI.
I have added your instructions for running the jetty plugin
under the eclipse debugger as a FAQ entry on the jetty6
site at:
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Debugging+with+the+Maven+Jetty+Plugin+inside+Eclipse
I've credited your name.
regards
Jan
Rolf Strijdhorst wrote
groupIdorg.slf4j/groupId
artifactIdnlog4j/artifactId
version1.1.24/version
/dependency
/dependencies
/plugin
If you are using JSP2.1 (ie you are running in a JVM = 1.5), then the
JSP engine has no particular logging dependencies.
cheers
Jan
David Main wrote
Wayne,
Does offline mode help?
mvn jetty6:run -o
cheers
Jan
Wayne Fay wrote:
Just generate them! ;-)
No really, this has been annoying to me as well... Not sure how we've
got artifacts in the official Maven repo without corresponding poms,
but I have noticed this for all (??) Tomcat
for the plugin and all configurable properties
is available from http://jetty.mortbay.org/jetty6/
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Have you tried the optional /> tag for the dependency?
On 1 Jan 2006, at 14:25, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
Hi,
are there any recommendations on how to handle dependencies, which aren't always required?
For example, I am using JDK 1.5 classes in some projects like javax.xml.Consta
cts with the dependency scopes.
On 1 Jan 2006, at 20:39, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
ir. ing. Jan Dockx wrote:
Have you tried the optional /> tag for the dependency?
Thank you. To be honest, I wasn't aware of this tag.
Reading through the docs, I do, however, believe, that it is a partial so
Ok, but in the original mail, Jochen talks about the requirements of his _users_, not of the developers of the main project. And users of his users need those dependencies transitively …
On 1 Jan 2006, at 23:48, Brett Porter wrote:
The optional tag is *only* for the purposes of transitive
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