Re: Excel formula tool tip suggestion to match Microsoft's feature

2024-03-11 Thread David
Steve Greaves wrote: Hi, team. When building a formula in Excel, the tool tip does not go *BOLD,* as you type, unlike Microsoft's Excel. May I suggest that this could be developed in a newer version? Examples below: Microsoft's has the BOLD type to help... Developers don't visit here general

Excel formula tool tip suggestion to match Microsoft's feature

2024-03-10 Thread Steve Greaves
Hi, team. When building a formula in Excel, the tool tip does not go BOLD, as you type, unlike Microsoft's Excel. May I suggest that this could be developed in a newer version? Examples below: Microsoft's has the BOLD type to help...

Re: Program suggestion

2023-09-09 Thread David Robley
On 10/09/2023 15:06, Surfy wrote: Thank you for the great service you have been providing the public for o many years. I have a suggestion for OpenOffice Writer to add to the "Find/Search" function - could you please show the total number of times a search word or Reporting bugs or s

Program suggestion

2023-09-09 Thread Surfy
Thank you for the great service you have been providing the public for o many years. I have a suggestion for OpenOffice Writer to add to the "Find/Search" function - could you please show the total number of times a search word or phrase appears in a document. Also it would be handy i

Re: re finding words in articles in open office suggestion

2023-02-14 Thread W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.
tphin Sent: February 14, 2023 15:05 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: re finding words in articles in open office suggestion [You don't often get email from tears4a...@gmail.com. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] One of the things you c

re finding words in articles in open office suggestion

2023-02-14 Thread Priscilla Van Sutphin
One of the things you can do that is extremely helpful for finding things in writings is to put a word in search in microsoft word  in your calling up you list of articles, So you can find something you've written but can't find which article it is in. So I can click on documents in Word,

Dictionaries, Suggestion List, and Real Apostrophes

2022-11-05 Thread Rod Lockwood
Is there a way to get AOO to accept real apostrophes (’) by default instead of the straight single quote (') in words? Sometimes the spellchecking just doesn’t work well. Sometimes I wind up with nonsense words in the Suggestions list, usually with the most likely candidates at the bottom. Som

Suggestion relating to installing and updating Apache Open Office - was - Re: Winding OpenOffice down

2022-06-23 Thread Bret Busby
office suites and component applications, like me, are users with limited skills ("a bear with little brain" :) ), would be considered, it could, perhaps, justify implementing my suggestion, to make the use of Apache Open Office, more accessible. Out of interest, I was using Star Offic

Suggestion for improvement

2021-08-11 Thread DieterHeyn
Hello, Open Office opens each window with the size of the previous window. It would be very helpful if the window size depended on the file. So: Each file has its own window size and position -- Dieter Heyn Klausstr. 3 65366 Geisenheim dieterh...@web.de Rh

Fwd: Re: Suggestion

2020-06-21 Thread Martin Groenescheij
Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Suggestion Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 06:47:40 +0200 From: Piet Fox To: Martin Groenescheij Thanks Martin, that is a great solution! Regards/Groete, *Piet Fox *(Dip.Electr.Eng.; Mem.SAIEE) Cell.: +264 81 169 6340 foxp

Re: Suggestion

2020-06-19 Thread Martin Groenescheij
On 18/06/2020 07:27, Piet Fox wrote: Firstly, I want to say that I love OpenOffice and it is the only program I use for all my Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents. As I am Afrikaans speaking, I'm often using Special Characters such as "ê" and "ë". It is really an effort for me to go to the Spec

Re: Suggestion

2020-06-18 Thread toki
On 2020/06/18 05:27, Piet Fox wrote: > In MS Word there is a shortcut to insert these Characters while typing. The > shortcut is "ctrl" and "shift" and "Special Character" together and after > releasing the keys you can type the "e" and it would insert the Special > Character automatically. > Can y

Suggestion

2020-06-17 Thread Piet Fox
Firstly, I want to say that I love OpenOffice and it is the only program I use for all my Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents. As I am Afrikaans speaking, I'm often using Special Characters such as "ê" and "ë". It is really an effort for me to go to the Special Characters tab every time and insert

Suggestion for search function

2019-10-16 Thread Andhi Saputra
i just want to suggest search function adding total hit and search location like in HxD.i more like using Open Office because more simple and not confusing but i also need search function like HxD to confirm how much i can find the same text and the location by simple click. Example above.Thank

suggestion

2017-04-21 Thread glgracik
I was thinking , because I read an interactive book, that it would be good if you would design a writer program that has imbedded video and audio feature and make it one file …possibly… for pdf export. Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Suggestion - Internet-Data-Processing-Centered Browser. The Next Browser.

2015-03-27 Thread Bruno Morgado
Hello to you all at OpenOffice, My name is Bruno Morgado, i'm writing you from Portugal and i do have a Suggestion to present you if you don't have already that kind of Solutions within the OpenOffice one. Have you ever thought about making possible an Internet Focused Product

Re: Suggestion of Ways to Combat Fake AOO Download Sites

2014-11-29 Thread jonathon
On November 29, 2014 8:03:14 AM PST, Tom Panfil wrote: > All the projects could watch that site's links to catch any corruption > introduced maliciously to the download links . People redirected to the SourceForge from Openoffice.org have ended up downoading the program from a malicious third

Re: Suggestion of Ways to Combat Fake AOO Download Sites

2014-11-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 29/11/2014 Tom Panfil wrote: perhaps some site could be developed to provide the official download links for Apache OO For Apache OpenOffice, that site is our official site: http://www.openoffice.org ; it almost always comes first in Internet searches (but yes, sponsored links are the prob

Re: Suggestion of Ways to Combat Fake AOO Download Sites

2014-11-29 Thread DaveMainwaring
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Suggestion of Ways to Combat Fake AOO Download Sites

2014-11-29 Thread Tom Panfil
So many people get burned by doing a search for Apache Open Office or just for Open Office then downloading from a malicious 3rd party site that the Apache OO Project should do what it can to try to warn people *in advance*. It is impossible to do that globally and repeatedly but perhaps som

Re: Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-28 Thread NoOp
On 11/27/2014 08:54 AM, dbo...@mmm.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: > Rory O'Farrell writes: > >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:09:07 -0500 >> dbo...@mmm.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: >> >>> "f.carbon...@libero.it" writes: >>> >>> > New command in "File" 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page >>> > f

Re: Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-27 Thread J. David Boyd
Rory O'Farrell writes: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:09:07 -0500 > dbo...@mmm.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: > >> "f.carbon...@libero.it" writes: >> >> > New command in "File" 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page >> > from .odt document in another .odt file. For example: document.odt >> > wi

Re: Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:09:07 -0500 dbo...@mmm.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: > "f.carbon...@libero.it" writes: > > > New command in "File" 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page > > from .odt document in another .odt file. For example: document.odt > > with 35 pages. I want save page 14 of

Re: Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-26 Thread J. David Boyd
"f.carbon...@libero.it" writes: > New command in "File" 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page > from .odt document in another .odt file. For example: document.odt > with 35 pages. I want save page 14 of this document only. With 'Save > page', I can do. With avanzate service, insert the

Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-25 Thread f.carbon...@libero.it
New command in "File" 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page from .odt document in another .odt file. For example: document.odt with 35 pages. I want save page 14 of this document only. With 'Save page', I can do. With avanzate service, insert the command for save pages from page x to

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-24 Thread Richard Detwiler
Doug wrote: One use of Reveal Codes will tell you whether a tab or a set of spaces is used in a text. Also, to spot double spaces, if you don't just do a find/replace to get rid of them. I think this kind of use could be done in OO or LO just as well. Just to clarify, and as I think most user

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-24 Thread Alan B
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Doug wrote: > > On 05/23/2014 08:43 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > >> On 2014-05-23, 3:43 PM japples wrote: >> >> /snip/ > > There is a huge difference between showing non-printing characters and >> showing formatting codes. Saying AOO shows non-printing characters

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
yes, voting is how you officially indicate your interest On 05/23/2014 03:39 AM, Helen wrote: I'd love the reveal codes feature -- didn't know there was a vote until I ran across this. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak < and...@pitonyak.org> wrote: On 05/19/2014 06:11

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Doug
On 05/23/2014 08:43 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2014-05-23, 3:43 PM japples wrote: /snip/ There is a huge difference between showing non-printing characters and showing formatting codes. Saying AOO shows non-printing characters is similar to WP reveal codes is ridiculous. Now tell me again

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Greg Madden
On Friday 23 May 2014 13:43:21 you wrote: > Larry, I understand your words. For now, this is the closest OO has > to WP reveal codes. > > Look closely and you will see some of the codes shown with OO are > also shown in WP reveal codes window. Point being, you don't have to > have a separate wind

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2014-05-23, 3:43 PM japples wrote: Larry, I understand your words. For now, this is the closest OO has to WP reveal codes. Look closely and you will see some of the codes shown with OO are also shown in WP reveal codes window. Point being, you don't have to have a separate window to view /

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Doug
On 05/23/2014 05:43 PM, japples wrote: Larry, I understand your words. For now, this is the closest OO has to WP reveal codes. Look closely and you will see some of the codes shown with OO are also shown in WP reveal codes window. Point being, you don't have to have a separate window to view

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread japples
Larry, I understand your words. For now, this is the closest OO has to WP reveal codes. Look closely and you will see some of the codes shown with OO are also shown in WP reveal codes window. Point being, you don't have to have a separate window to view / edit codes. One other point, WP Re

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2014-05-23, 9:07 AM japples wrote: I do apologize for not being more clear about where I found the "codes" OO has that are similar to the WP codes. Open OO Writer, find the icon that looks similar to the manual (before computer) editing symbol for new paragraph. Click on it to expose the cod

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread japples
Dan, like you, I am very tired of people talking about things such as the "content.xml file in the zipped ODT file" which doesn't seem to be a function in the standard tool bar such as Edit, Copy, Paste etc. I do apologize for not being more clear about where I found the "codes" OO has that ar

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Dan Lewis
On 05/22/2014 04:15 PM, japples wrote: Urmas wrote: "japples": A more efficient way would be to have the codes seen where they are in document and make corrections on the spot. I've never used WP, but basing on Wiki images, it shows mostly useless stuff like linebreaks and spaces. Do you

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Helen
I'd love the reveal codes feature -- didn't know there was a vote until I ran across this. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak < and...@pitonyak.org> wrote: > > On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: > >> So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requir

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread japples
Urmas wrote: "japples": A more efficient way would be to have the codes seen where they are in document and make corrections on the spot. I've never used WP, but basing on Wiki images, it shows mostly useless stuff like linebreaks and spaces. Do you want to see where each formatting run b

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread japples
Doug wrote: See below your note On 05/22/2014 04:22 AM, japples wrote: How red faced am I . . . I finally put aside a portion of my mindset and can now can see OO's "reveal codes" - amazing how easy it is not to see the forest for the trees. Could not see OO codes because they did not appea

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread Urmas
"japples": A more efficient way would be to have the codes seen where they are in document and make corrections on the spot. I've never used WP, but basing on Wiki images, it shows mostly useless stuff like linebreaks and spaces. Do you want to see where each formatting run begins and ends?

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread Doug
On 05/22/2014 04:22 AM, japples wrote: How red faced am I . . . I finally put aside a portion of my mindset and can now can see OO's "reveal codes" - amazing how easy it is not to see the forest for the trees. Could not see OO codes because they did not appear as I was accustomed to viewing (

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread japples
How red faced am I . . . I finally put aside a portion of my mindset and can now can see OO's "reveal codes" - amazing how easy it is not to see the forest for the trees. Could not see OO codes because they did not appear as I was accustomed to viewing (periods look like dust specks on my moni

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-21 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 05:14:33 PM mt wrote: > On 20/5/14 at 3:02 PM, bbyfi...@axion.net (Bruce Byfield) wrote: > > > > > >Sorry -- you're waa behind the times. The vast majority of > >books published these days use a layout program -- sometimes, > >even, LibreOffice -- and the publishers

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-21 Thread James Knott
On 05/20/2014 10:22 PM, Urmas wrote: > Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of perverse, > because > it means doing more work than necessary If anyone knows perverse, it would be Urmas. ;-) --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffic

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-21 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
At least two (probably more) of the books I have in my shelf are produced entirely by a system widely used in the sciences, LaTeX, in combination with other software like RStudio, R, and a package for R called knitr. As far as I understand, page layout, headers, footers, references, everything.

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-21 Thread mt
On 20/5/14 at 3:02 PM, bbyfi...@axion.net (Bruce Byfield) wrote: Sorry -- you're waa behind the times. The vast majority of books published these days use a layout program -- sometimes, even, LibreOffice -- and the publishers set it using tools like styles. ... This is true, Br

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 09:22:08 AM Urmas wrote: > "Bruce Byfield": > > Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of perverse, > because > it means doing more work than necessary > > Take any book from your shelf. > The number of lines on each page was adjusted manually. > The hy

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Urmas
"Bruce Byfield": Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of perverse, because it means doing more work than necessary Take any book from your shelf. The number of lines on each page was adjusted manually. The hyphenation and letter spacing were adjusted manually. Paragraph sp

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Martin Groenescheij
On 21-5-2014 10:28, japples wrote: Martin, to put it more simply, you prefer to post the styles / definitions of a document as a cheat sheet rather than see the code in real time and where located in your document (reveal codes). Very inefficient to take eyes off of the document to search for

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread japples
Martin, to put it more simply, you prefer to post the styles / definitions of a document as a cheat sheet rather than see the code in real time and where located in your document (reveal codes). Very inefficient to take eyes off of the document to search for "style definitions" then go back to

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Doug Johnson
And your not even involving columns and tables, etc., yet! A page can get very complex. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Martin Groenescheij < mar...@groenescheij.com> wrote: > For me personally I worked with Styles for about three decades and find > this the best way to control my documents.

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Julian Thomas
On 20 May 2014, at 03:52, mt wrote: > The best style manual I have come across was the ancient Hakon Wium Lie's CSS > book - and in fact, it's been easier for me to master styles in writer > applications after grasping the CSS concept. Of course experience with HTML > (from version 1...) also

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread mt
On 19/5/14 at 12:05 PM, j...@jt-mj.net (Julian Thomas) wrote: Is there a better manual than the online help that I'm missing? cheers - jt The best style manual I have come across was the ancient Hakon Wium Lie's CSS book - and in fact, it's been easier for me to master styles in writ

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
On 19 May 2014, at 09:38, 許哲崇 wrote: > If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, > what is the problem? lack of a current wordperfect and why should we pay for it if we are committed to OO? jt --- List Conduct Guidelines:

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
On 19 May 2014, at 03:34, mt wrote: > Anyhow, a (very basic) example of how this could be obtained is in the > "Write/Edit Post" interface in WordPress, with its two tabs (Visual | Text). > I have no idea whether this is possible in OO - but it is my understanding > that something like that i

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
On 16 May 2014, at 03:12, mt wrote: > Sorry I can't help Julian, I have found no tutorials at all. I'm used to > learning by reading the manual and then lots of trial and error, and after > investing many hours doing just that, I have found that using styles can save > some time with complex

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? No problem at all... :-) The potential issue is that loading in a different editor will cause slightly different things to be displayed (at least that is my exper

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Jim McLaughlin
All the more reason why the open source community operating under the Apache umbrella should add a "Reveal Codes" analog to OO. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Doug wrote: > > On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: > >> If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, >> w

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread randyf
@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Suggestion. On 05/14/2014 10:17 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: > On 14 May 2014, at 09:38, mt wrote: > >> While I have learned how to (use and) appreciate the Styles features, I >> agree that not everything in every given text document is prone to

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread randyf
: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Suggestion. On 15 May 2014, at 07:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > We are preparing new documentation under the Apache License here: > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Writer/Styles > Feel free to review and improve it. If

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread randyf
) To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Suggestion. Not to argue, but just to mention my experiences -- I do "on the spot" formatting on many occasions and I've never felt hampered by not having the "reveal codes" capability. Also, I've used styles on many other

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread randyf
@openoffice.apache.org Cc: mar...@groenescheij.com Subject: Re: Suggestion. For me personally I worked with Styles for about three decades and find this the best way to control my documents. Nevertheless we should not be blind for the needs of others, managing Styles has a long learning curve and

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Doug
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? The problem is that most versions of WordPerfect don't run on Linux. (WordPerfect 12 word processor only will run, but can't read the latest Microsoft formats. Al

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread 許哲崇
If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? 2014-05-19 20:17 GMT+08:00 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak : > > On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: > >> So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires >> casual users to travel t

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show consideration to the casual user and provide

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Steve's G-Mail
Allow me to add my 'two-pence worth’ to this important discussion. Seems to me that it has been well-explained earlier that a ‘reveal codes’-like solution (apparently as in WordPerfect) is not readily achievable within OO, as the formatting controls of OO don’t lend themselves to such a solution

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread japples
So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show consideration to the casual user and provide a reveal code feature which is cleaner /

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread mt
Sorry if there is some confusion here, as I for one never meant to criticise styles - which I use extensively, and generally find useful. There are however situations where styles might not help. For example, when troubleshooting document formatting problems such as page or section options, o

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-18 Thread Martin Groenescheij
For me personally I worked with Styles for about three decades and find this the best way to control my documents. Nevertheless we should not be blind for the needs of others, managing Styles has a long learning curve and someone can make many mistakes before he master Styles. Where someone

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-18 Thread Richard Detwiler
Not to argue, but just to mention my experiences -- I do "on the spot" formatting on many occasions and I've never felt hampered by not having the "reveal codes" capability. Also, I've used styles on many other occasions, and likewise have never felt hampered by not having "reveal codes". I D

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Doug Johnson
I agree with the "On the spot" need. Quite simply, Reveal Codes allows me to see what's going with a glance. With so many features, the interaction between them can make formatting unexpectedly difficult. Like salt and pepper, use when needed! On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Richard Detwiler

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Richard Detwiler
What I don't understand, and I'm sure I must be missing something so please explain, is how come this discussion seems to suggest that it's either/or -- meaning, "use styles for all formatting" or "we HAVE to have "reveal codes" to not use styles". I've used styles a lot with Open Office and I

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 17 May 2014 00:18:32 -0700 Bruce Byfield wrote: > On Saturday 17 May 2014 12:32:43 AM Doug wrote: > > > My beef is that when you find something weird happening, it's likely to > > be because of some "style" that you weren't aware of, and _you can't fix > > it, because__ > > __it's built

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Saturday 17 May 2014 12:32:43 AM Doug wrote: > My beef is that when you find something weird happening, it's likely to > be because of some "style" that you weren't aware of, and _you can't fix > it, because__ > __it's built into the "style." _ Are your experiences with styles with someone e

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Bruce Byfield
've been a user of OpenOffice since the 1.0 release -- for over 12 years. Surely you aren't suggesting that it isn't for people like me just as much? > > If people like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the > > programmer's job to consider it fro

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Catherine RIOBÉ
please dont send me emails any more. I am a particular person. Le 17 mai 2014 à 05:24, Bruce Byfield a écrit : > On Friday 16 May 2014 10:28:44 PM Julian Thomas wrote: >>> But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people >>> like me and Julian put

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Friday 16 May 2014 11:35:46 PM James Knott wrote: > On 05/16/2014 09:29 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: > > If people don't want to learn how to use Writer the way it was designed, > > they might be better off with some simpler tool. > > Notepad? ;-) :-) But I didn't say that to put anyone down.

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Doug
the point. For starters, it sounds like you don't really know WordPerfect, and imagine "Reveal codes" to be something other than it was. But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the programmer&

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread James Knott
On 05/16/2014 09:29 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: > If people don't want to learn how to use Writer the way it was designed, they > might be better off with some simpler tool. Notepad? ;-) --- List Conduct Guidelines: http://openoffice.apache.org/list-conduct

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Julian Thomas
> But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people > like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the programmer's > job to consider it from the user's perspective... or shouldn't it?? On 16 May 2014, at 03:12, mt wrote: > S

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread japples
Thank you for the links. I understood less than 5% of what I read. Not sure if I gleamed this correctly or not; however, it seems WP and OO are different platforms (?) so adding a reveal code feature would require OO to be totally re-written. Personally, I find reveal codes very helpful yet

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Friday 16 May 2014 10:28:44 PM Julian Thomas wrote: > > But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people > > like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the > > programmer's job to consider it from the user's perspective... o

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Julian Thomas
On 15 May 2014, at 07:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > We are preparing new documentation under the Apache License here: > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Writer/Styles > Feel free to review and improve it. If you need a wiki account, just ask here > (this applies to everyb

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Johansson
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:12 AM, mt wrote: > To those who chimed in to justify styles: it is quite obvious to me that you > are missing the point. For starters, it sounds like you don't really know > WordPerfect, and imagine "Reveal codes" to be something other than it was. I can't speak for the

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday 15 May 2014 09:03:13 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote: > the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the > WP/Corel "Reveal Codes" option Really? I don't mean to be contentious, but I didn't see an overwhelming majority on either side. > If the programmers behind OO want to provid

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Jim McLaughlin
This has been a very interesting thread. It has also been the single most posted to thread I've seen in the six or so months I've been a subscrber to this group. What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO "orthodoxy" regarding "styles" ve. alternative methods, like a WP "re

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Felmon Davis
On Wed, 14 May 2014, Brian Barker wrote: [...] Have you ever been asked to double-space a document? Probably. Has anyone ever asked you instead to set double spacing at the beginning of the document and then turn it off at the end? Of course not: that's not how people think and speak!

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread circulars
ided. - Original Message - From: Brian Barker Sent: 05/14/14 05:29 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Suggestion. At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: >In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of >how common users are encourage

Re: Suggestion

2014-05-16 Thread Brian Barker
ays the structure (as distinct from the appearance) of any document. You perhaps inherit a document from elsewhere and need to know how to modify it as you need. For that, you need to be able to see its structure. I have to say that I cannot disagree with such a suggestion! In case anyone

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
By the way, the idea of a Reveal Codes feature goes way back - over a decade, in fact: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3395 And a discussion of the issues involved with implementing it: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Reveal_Codes_-_Alternative_for_OOo_Writer Other discussion at

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread James Plante
+1 on that, Bruce. I've got a small stash of letters, memos, and technical docs (many just for my own use) that I keep; some of these were crafted in the 1.x version of OpenOffice. Most are version 3.x templates, though. They all still work, just as you describe. Learning to use templates does

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Dan Lewis
On 05/14/2014 10:17 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: On 14 May 2014, at 09:38, mt wrote: While I have learned how to (use and) appreciate the Styles features, I agree that not everything in every given text document is prone to being "styled". As a longtime Star office and now OO user, I am new to s

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Johansson
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Jim McLaughlin wrote: > What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO > "orthodoxy" regarding "styles" ve. alternative methods, like a WP "reveal > codes" approach, the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the > WP/Corel "Reveal Co

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday 15 May 2014 06:03:34 PM mt wrote: > I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm simply asking that user > perspective is taken into consideration at least as much as the > programmer's own. So far as I'm concerned, anything that saves me time and effort is taking my perspective as a user into

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 06:38:37 PM Doug wrote: it is hardly worth the effort for the average memo writer, letter > writer, or even article writer. It would be like a numismatist learning > metallurgy! When I first started using OpenOffice.org well over a decade ago, I sat down and figured all

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread mt
On 14/5/14 at 4:12 AM, bbyfi...@axion.net (Bruce Byfield) wrote: On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:29:45 PM Brian Barker wrote: At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to th

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Julian Thomas wrote: As a longtime Star office and now OO user, I am new to styles. I'd still like to see some helpful information on how to get started with styles (better than 'my pets' and 'my cats'; [I tried those tutorials and they didn't work very well for me]) and a reference. We are pr

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread mt
e you don't really know WordPerfect, and imagine "Reveal codes" to be something other than it was. But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the programmer's job to consider it from

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-15 Thread Doug
On 05/14/2014 02:12 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:29:45 PM Brian Barker wrote: At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to think ("program") and

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-15 Thread 許哲崇
Try to use keyboard recording software. 2014-05-13 9:20 GMT+08:00 Jim McLaughlin : > I would certainly "second" Gordon Lee's suggestion for ver. 5.x.x that > having a > parallel to the Corel/WP "reveal Codes" function would be invaluable. > > > On Mon,

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