Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Nsubuga Ronald Tash
On Friday 13 January 2006 01:25, Loren Wilton wrote: > Going to 3.0.5 should be pretty painless. Going to 3.1 will be a bit more > of a bother. > Trust me going to 3.1.0 should so cool. :-) > Loren -- --- Ronnie Tash Everything can be achieved as long you can do what it t

Making the hashcash plugin more useful

2006-01-12 Thread Andrew Donkin
A while ago the hashcash list was lamenting the lack of support in transfer agents. They are stuck in a chicken and egg situation where no user agents will add hashcash headers because no spam checkers are looking for them. I think we could bootstrap that process very easily with a simple additi

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
I don't think this could be the problem but If one install was from some vendor's package it might have placed spamassassin in a different directory than is standard. That means you may have both new and old installed at once, which is sure to cause annoyance if nothing else. Look for an occ

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Are there any "starter" ham/spam emails I can use? I thought I saw one, but > it wasn't for a MySQL database. Im using Bayes, site wide, in mysql. I hate > to feed it emails I think is ham or spam. Personally I violently detest "starter" bayes databases, and feel that in t

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Ok looks like I found it: I have updated my server with the latest version of Spamassassin and/or ClamAV. However, when I look at the headers of my email messages, they still report that my server is using the older versions. What's wrong? A: Whenever you update either Spamassassin or ClamAV, y

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Please don't top-post, it ruins the formatting and flow of the thread!) Robert Bartlett wrote: > Are there any "starter" ham/spam emails I can use? I thought I saw one, but > it wasn't for a MySQL database. Im using Bayes, site wide, in mysql. I hate

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Hmm, Don't know how to restart qmail-scanner. Looking on google right now. I stopped and restarted qmail, but nothing showing for qmail-scanner yet and restarting qmail didn't change anything Robert -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January

Re: optimization failing

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
Basically only two possibilities: you're thrashing the poor box to death by running out of memory, or network tests are taking an age. Or maybe both. How many children? What load average? How much memory on the machine? How much free memory? Do you have a local caching DNS for the various RBL

Re: SURBL

2006-01-12 Thread Irina
Thank you. We catch so many now I see in scores. Irina - Original Message - From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Irina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: Re: SURBL > Irina wrote: > > Thank you Matt and Leonardo, > > > > Oh, n. I

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Ok fixed the symbolic link error, I updated the spamd script with the 3.0.5 > one, but backed up the old one. Restored the old one and no errors. It still > shows 3.0.5 in the logs but not in the email headers. Any idea where to look > to see what Im pumping into spamc? I a

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
Going to 3.0.5 should be pretty painless. Going to 3.1 will be a bit more of a bother. Loren

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Jan 12 15:01:35 milkyway spamd[17235]: Can't write to PID file: Too many > levels of symbolic links > > I look in the directory for the pid file and its highlighted red, so now the > link is not working? And it still shows as 3.0.1 in the header of emails. Did you mean t

Re: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
> clear_trusted_networks > clear_internal_networks > trusted_networks x.x.x.x (where x.x.x.x is my own ip address) > > ...will that conceivably help me? Yes. I don't konw that you necessarily even have to do the clears. Keep in mind that that dotquad has to be the address *as seen from the SA mac

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Robert Bartlett wrote: Hello, Thanks for the help. It seems to be painless, but in the headers it still shows 3.0.1, but when I startup SA in debug mode it says 3.0.5. I vagually remember a file I had to edit to show the proper version in the email heade

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Are there any "starter" ham/spam emails I can use? I thought I saw one, but it wasn't for a MySQL database. Im using Bayes, site wide, in mysql. I hate to feed it emails I think is ham or spam. Robert -Original Message- From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 20

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Ok fixed the symbolic link error, I updated the spamd script with the 3.0.5 one, but backed up the old one. Restored the old one and no errors. It still shows 3.0.5 in the logs but not in the email headers. Any idea where to look to see what Im pumping into spamc? I am running qmail with qmail-scan

Re: optimization failing

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Anne Ramey wrote: > I'm installed SA 3.1 with Amavisd-new and postfix 2.2.5 on fedora core 3 > and am having serious mail slowdowns, as much as and hour. I've figure > out it's SA because the SA check as taking 8-12 seconds, which was about > 75%+ of the processing. I've been trying to sort throug

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
From: "Craig McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Bartlett wrote: Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes turned off. My question is does SA bene

Re: Scaling SA for 100k/day: (was Purging the Spamassassin Database)

2006-01-12 Thread Daniel J. Cody
Andrew Donkin wrote: Could Jason, and others on the list who handle a large amount of email, report back on their setups? It might be quite a useful resource to have in the archives. I don't think it has been covered on this list before, but please set me straight if it has. We have approx. 8

Re: Scaling SA for 100k/day: (was Purging the Spamassassin Database)

2006-01-12 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, In-line, we do about 500K a day. Andrew Donkin wrote: In particular I am interested in: - how many boxes running spamd? 2 currently but only because we are under a bounce back joe job. Normally one P4 3.2 Ghz with 2 gig of ram handles the load. - how many spamd children per box (spam

optimization failing

2006-01-12 Thread Anne Ramey
I'm installed SA 3.1 with Amavisd-new and postfix 2.2.5 on fedora core 3 and am having serious mail slowdowns, as much as and hour. I've figure out it's SA because the SA check as taking 8-12 seconds, which was about 75%+ of the processing. I've been trying to sort through my rulesets to see w

Re: flagging forged email as spam...

2006-01-12 Thread mouss
Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães a écrit : > > > Matt Kettler escreveu: > >> Screaming Eagle wrote: >> >> >>> All, >>> I am getting spam email with return-path of my domain name, but: >>> >>> Received: from friend (dsl-201-135-40-163.prod-infinitum.com.mx >>>

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > I start SA by using service spamassassin start which is a file that pipes > stuff to spamc. Erm.. No. service spamassassin starts up spamd. Nothing else. Period. I assume you separately pump things into spamc? Where?

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Looks like it was erroring out trying to access the pid file? It was pointed to the wrong file. So now when I stop and restart it, it nows shows this in the maillog: Jan 12 15:01:35 milkyway spamd[17235]: server started on port 783/tcp (running version 3.0.5) Jan 12 15:01:35 milkyway spamd[17235]:

Scaling SA for 100k/day: (was Purging the Spamassassin Database)

2006-01-12 Thread Andrew Donkin
> I've been investigating some recent slowness issues with our mail > servers and I noticed that the spamassassin database is getting > rather large. We process approximately 300,000 mails a day (or > more). We do only a third of that Jason but I'm still having problems with capacity. I have fi

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
I start SA by using service spamassassin start which is a file that pipes stuff to spamc. Robert -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:42 PM To: Robert Bartlett Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and Auto Learn

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Hello, > Thanks for the help. It seems to be painless, but in the headers it still > shows 3.0.1, but when I startup SA in debug mode it says 3.0.5. I vagually > remember a file I had to edit to show the proper version in the email > headers? No, there shouldn't be. SA ad

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Hello, Thanks for the help. It seems to be painless, but in the headers it still shows 3.0.1, but when I startup SA in debug mode it says 3.0.5. I vagually remember a file I had to edit to show the proper version in the email headers? Maybe Im thinking of something else? I tried restarting SA, stil

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Need to upgrade heh? I installed it from source and am very weary of doing > any updates as it's a "production" server. But I guess I don't have a > chance. Any documents out there you suggest reading on steps to upgrade it? > Being a production box, I'd suggest doing an

Re: Purging the Spamassassin Database

2006-01-12 Thread Jason Frisvold
On 1/12/06, Michael Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You shouldn't check mail for non-existent users. We don't. :) Old users who don't have accounts anymore, but who's account data still exists in spamassassin.. This data is never checked, but merely takes up space.. > The best way to clear

Re: SURBL

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Irina wrote: > Thank you Matt and Leonardo, > > Oh, n. I checked about everything, but not this file. I am missing it > there. I am afraid I don't have the original file and will have to find in > a TAR file. Yes, you NEED init.pre. Also, if you're using SA 3.1.0 you'll need v310.pre. (I

RE: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Need to upgrade heh? I installed it from source and am very weary of doing any updates as it's a "production" server. But I guess I don't have a chance. Any documents out there you suggest reading on steps to upgrade it? Thanks Robert -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: SURBL

2006-01-12 Thread Irina
Thank you Matt and Leonardo, Oh, n. I checked about everything, but not this file. I am missing it there. I am afraid I don't have the original file and will have to find in a TAR file. If I have posted this messages to the list before. would save my time. Thank you very much. Irina

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (12.01.2006/20:51 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), > Jim Knuth wrote: >> Heute (12.01.2006/20:24 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), >> >> >Bayes autolearning can be very useful, but I'd suggest adjusting the ham >learning threshold. The default of 0.5 >>

Re: SURBL

2006-01-12 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães
Irina escreveu: Hello everybody again. Here is my other issue I found. I can not find any of SURBL in spam reports. I am looking for this exact string SURBL (may be I am wrong?). Spamassassin -D --lint shows the module is installed [53711] dbg: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes

Re: SURBL

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Irina wrote: > Hello everybody again. > > Here is my other issue I found. I can not find any of SURBL in spam > reports. I am looking for this exact string SURBL (may be I am wrong?). > > Spamassassin -D --lint shows the module is installed > [53711] dbg: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver availabl

SURBL

2006-01-12 Thread Irina
Hello everybody again. Here is my other issue I found. I can not find any of SURBL in spam reports. I am looking for this exact string SURBL (may be I am wrong?). Spamassassin -D --lint shows the module is installed [53711] dbg: dns: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes [53711] dbg: dns

Re: flagging forged email as spam...

2006-01-12 Thread Screaming Eagle
All, I believe SPF pluging is active: "loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::SPF". How do I find out if this is activive in my configurations. If it is not, could some one points me in the right direction. Thanks.On 1/12/06, Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Screaming Eagle wrote:> All,> I

RE: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Sassaman
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 1:29 PM > To: jdow > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA ) > > > jdow wrote: > > From: "Mike Sassaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Jim Knuth wrote: > Heute (12.01.2006/20:24 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), > > Bayes autolearning can be very useful, but I'd suggest adjusting the ham learning threshold. The default of 0.5 > > > I see as default 0.1 Yeah, my bad. I thought it was 0.5, but it's not that

Re: flagging forged email as spam...

2006-01-12 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães
Matt Kettler escreveu: Screaming Eagle wrote: All, I am getting spam email with return-path of my domain name, but: Received: from friend (dsl-201-135-40-163.prod-infinitum.com.mx [201.135.40.163 ] (may be forged))

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (12.01.2006/20:24 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), >>>Bayes autolearning can be very useful, but I'd suggest adjusting the ham >>>learning threshold. The default of 0.5 I see as default 0.1 >> >> how can I change the defaults of learning threshold? I use SA V >> 3.1.0 > See

RE: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Sassaman
> > Mike Sassaman wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm new to this list and to SpamAssassin, and I'm have some > questions that > > will hopefully be easy for you all, but have been giving me > problems. > > > > Background: I've been running a Sendmail relay on OpenBSD > for the last > > couple year

Continuing Exim 4.60 & SpamAssassin 3.1.0 Problems

2006-01-12 Thread George R . Kasica
Help needed please! We are trying to upgrade from exim 3.36 and SA 3.0.4 to Exim 4.60 and SA 3.1 and are having no end of difficulties here. We just decided to pull SA 3.1 out and go back to 3.0.4 as we cannot get it to scan each message, not time out or crash and not use up all the CPU cycles. wi

Re: flagging forged email as spam...

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Screaming Eagle wrote: > All, > I am getting spam email with return-path of my domain name, but: > > Received: from friend (dsl-201-135-40-163.prod-infinitum.com.mx > [201.135.40.163 > ] (may be forged)) Three letters. SPF.

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Craig McLean wrote: > Jim Knuth wrote: > [snip] > >>>how can I change the defaults of learning threshold? I use SA V >>>3.1.0 > > > http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning_options > > Specifically, bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam and > bayes_au

flagging forged email as spam...

2006-01-12 Thread Screaming Eagle
All, I am getting spam email with return-path of my domain name, but: Received: from friend (dsl-201-135-40-163.prod-infinitum.com.mx [201.135.40.163] (may be forged))

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Jim Knuth wrote: > Heute (12.01.2006/20:04 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), > > > >>The AWL can be poisoned by a slightly clever spammer, but at best this gets >>them >>a "half off your score" for the real spam. For this reason, I keep it >>disabled. > > >>Bayes autolearning ca

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Knuth wrote: [snip] > > how can I change the defaults of learning threshold? I use SA V > 3.1.0 http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning_options Specifically, bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam and

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (12.01.2006/20:04 Uhr) schrieb Matt Kettler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), > The AWL can be poisoned by a slightly clever spammer, but at best this gets > them > a "half off your score" for the real spam. For this reason, I keep it > disabled. > Bayes autolearning can be very useful, but I'd sugge

RE: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Sassaman
Thanks for your reply. I added the last line because according to the list of default rules on the wiki it seemed like a lot of messages might be hitting it and getting a negative score. Obviously i was kind of shooting in the dark on that one... so I will remove the ALL_TRUSTED line. However I

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my > local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes > turned off. My question is does SA benefit from turning those 2 back on? Of > course I would clear out AWL and bayes and sta

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
> local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes > turned off. My question is does SA benefit from turning those 2 back on? Of You are in opinion territory. Some people like AWL and some don't much care for it. I personally have it turned off, and don't feel any lack

Re: AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Bartlett wrote: > Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my > local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes > turned off. My question is does SA benefit from turning those 2 back on? Of >

AWL and Auto Learn Bayes

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Since finding out the trusted_network issue I question the rest of my local.cf setup. Right now I have AWL turned off and auto learning for bayes turned off. My question is does SA benefit from turning those 2 back on? Of course I would clear out AWL and bayes and start from scratch if I did. But w

Re: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
jdow wrote: > From: "Mike Sassaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> The default local.cf was very minimal, during troubleshooting I added >> some >> things trying to get improvements. This is my current >> /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf: >> required_score 5 >> rewrite_header Subject *SPAM* >>

RE: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
SA 3.0.1 Robert -Original Message- From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:14 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: AWL and trusted_networks Importance: High > Turned on/enabled, sorry for wrong choice of words. > > Actually I got th

Re: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
> Turned on/enabled, sorry for wrong choice of words. > > Actually I got this advice from this very same list, noone seemed to respond > to the advice given in a bad way so I went ahead and did it. Knowing what Which version of SA are you on? I seem to recall lthere were some 3.0x teething proble

Re: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Mike Sassaman wrote: > Hello, > > I'm new to this list and to SpamAssassin, and I'm have some questions that > will hopefully be easy for you all, but have been giving me problems. > > Background: I've been running a Sendmail relay on OpenBSD for the last > couple years for a smallish company. T

Re: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Irina wrote: > Matt, > > Thank you for your reply. To everybody else who got on this topic and > helped Robert :-))) > > > Does the score > score ALL_TRUSTED -1.360 > work only with > trusted_networks > ? > No.. SA always uses trust detection. If you don't declare a trusted_networks,

Re: getting spamassassin learn to separate spam from ham, postfix and exchange

2006-01-12 Thread Loren Wilton
> Basic questions is the same: How do I get spam off the exchange server en > masse to train bayes? Depends on how massive you want to be about it. Standard technique: set up a couple of HAM and SPAM IMAP folders and let the users share them. They can then drag/drop stuff into them. Have a cron

RE: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread Bowie Bailey
Mike Sassaman wrote: > Hello, > > I'm new to this list and to SpamAssassin, and I'm have some questions > that will hopefully be easy for you all, but have been giving me > problems. > > Background: I've been running a Sendmail relay on OpenBSD for the last > couple years for a smallish company.

RE: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
I read the link Matt provided, it has this statement in the document that looks to pertain to "starting from scratch", if you decide to do that: "Now, with that said, it IS possible for the AWL to be polluted and cause problems. Generally this is the result of past misconfiguration or scoring prob

Re: spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
From: "Mike Sassaman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The default local.cf was very minimal, during troubleshooting I added some things trying to get improvements. This is my current /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf: required_score 5 rewrite_header Subject *SPAM* use_razor2 1 razor_config /etc/m

Re: [SOLVED] Re: rules_du_jour/curl suddenly broken?

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Martinec
Peter, > TROUBLE in check_mail: spam_scan FAILED: panic: swash_fetch at > /etc/mail/spamassassin/70_sare_specific.cf, rule SARE_SPEC_SHORTQ, line 1, > line 1706. Search the amavisd-new web page for 'swash_fetch'. It is consequence of Perl bugs when handling UTF-8 characters. What version of Per

spam scores low (Sendmail + smtp-vilter + SA )

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Sassaman
Hello, I'm new to this list and to SpamAssassin, and I'm have some questions that will hopefully be easy for you all, but have been giving me problems. Background: I've been running a Sendmail relay on OpenBSD for the last couple years for a smallish company. The only thing this machine does is

Re: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Irina
Matt, Thank you for your reply. To everybody else who got on this topic and helped Robert :-))) Does the score score ALL_TRUSTED -1.360 work only with trusted_networks ? As I mentioned I had the problem with AWL and turned it off. I now tend to enable it, but am afraid it has old sc

Re: Purging the Spamassassin Database

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Parker
Jason Frisvold wrote: > On 1/12/06, Matthias Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sorry i accidently sent the previous (incomplete) message... >> >> I'm by no means a bayes specialist but i dont think it's a good idea >> just to delete the oldest entries since SA provides its own mean of >> purging

Re: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Turned on/enabled, sorry for wrong choice of words. > > Actually I got this advice from this very same list, noone seemed to respond > to the advice given in a bad way so I went ahead and did it. Yeah, I try to keep on top of the people that suggest that, but I often miss

RE: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Thanks for the responses! I went ahead and added the trusted_networks for the server ip. Thanks Robert -Original Message- From: Bowie Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:52 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: AWL and trusted_networks Robert

RE: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Bowie Bailey
Robert Bartlett wrote: > Turned on/enabled, sorry for wrong choice of words. Try "Configured" :) > Actually I got this advice from this very same list, noone seemed to > respond to the advice given in a bad way so I went ahead and did it. Interesting. That particular piece of bad advise shows u

RE: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Bowie Bailey
Robert Bartlett wrote: > I had the same problem when I turned on trusted_networks. I was told > to put this in my local.cf for SA: > > score ALL_TRUSTED 0 > > It seemed to resolve the problem No, it doesn't solve anything. It just masks the problem. There are quite a few features of SA t

RE: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Turned on/enabled, sorry for wrong choice of words. Actually I got this advice from this very same list, noone seemed to respond to the advice given in a bad way so I went ahead and did it. Knowing what you told me now what would be the proper setup for my server? Its just a single server that run

Re: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Irina wrote: > Hello all, > > We getting much more spam lately than used to. I am looking at SA and > seeing few things that either don't work properly or have not been set up > (my fault I have to admit). I will start from a simple question. > > At some point we had a problem with AWL giving a

Re: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Irina
Robert, Thank you for your reply. I think I am trying to achieve the opposite. I do want to use AWL. But I don't want it to give any positive score if sent from our IP addresses. It has worked good, but I had to disable it due to... it was giving a positive score to some of our senders. I alr

Re: Purging the Spamassassin Database

2006-01-12 Thread jdow
From: "Matthias Keller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If you reduce the value of the above directive and issue a sa-learn --force-expire it should expire all tokens not needed anymore until it reaches (approximately) some value lower than the max_db_size Hope that helps My understanding is th

Re: getting spamassassin learn to separate spam from ham, postfix and exchange

2006-01-12 Thread Motoharu Kubo
I would recommend Maia Mailguard. http://www.maiamailguard.com/ Basically it is an quarantine management user interface for spam and virus. It also has ham cache. Maia stores all hams/spams in its database. User can login Maia and specify final destiny of each ham/spam. You can "rescue" f

Re: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Robert Bartlett wrote: > I had the same problem when I turned on trusted_networks. Turned on? Please elaborate.. There is no "off" for trusted_networks. SA always parses trust, not matter what you do. > I was told to put this in my local.cf for SA: > > score ALL_TRUSTED 0 > > It seemed to

RE: AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
I had the same problem when I turned on trusted_networks. I was told to put this in my local.cf for SA: score ALL_TRUSTED 0 It seemed to resolve the problem Robert -Original Message- From: Irina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:22 AM To: users@spamass

RE: getting spamassassin learn to separate spam from ham, postfix and exchange

2006-01-12 Thread Robert Bartlett
Perhaps you can use fetchmail on the linux box? With some help I was able to create a fetchmail script that did the following: 1. Look for account info for fetchmail via a mysql database 2. Grab the email from that account using fetchmail 3. Feed it to SA on the linux box and filter it like a norm

AWL and trusted_networks

2006-01-12 Thread Irina
Hello all, We getting much more spam lately than used to. I am looking at SA and seeing few things that either don't work properly or have not been set up (my fault I have to admit). I will start from a simple question. At some point we had a problem with AWL giving a positive score to our user

RE: getting spamassassin learn to separate spam from ham, postfix and exchange

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Sassaman
I would also be interested in the answer to this. Although I am using Sendmail + smtpvilter + SA (with spamd) as a relay, with an Exchange server behind it. Basic questions is the same: How do I get spam off the exchange server en masse to train bayes? -Original Message- From: Karsten

Re: Purging the Spamassassin Database

2006-01-12 Thread Jason Frisvold
On 1/12/06, Matthias Keller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry i accidently sent the previous (incomplete) message... > > I'm by no means a bayes specialist but i dont think it's a good idea > just to delete the oldest entries since SA provides its own mean of > purging... Gotcha.. I kinda knew a

Re: Purging the Spamassassin Database

2006-01-12 Thread Matthias Keller
Jason Frisvold wrote: Hi all, I've been investigating some recent slowness issues with our mail servers and I noticed that the spamassassin database is getting rather large. We process approximately 300,000 mails a day (or more). The bayes_token database is over 1.8 Gig at the moment. (Actual

Re: Purging the Spamassassin Database

2006-01-12 Thread Matthias Keller
Jason Frisvold wrote: Hi all, I've been investigating some recent slowness issues with our mail servers and I noticed that the spamassassin database is getting rather large. We process approximately 300,000 mails a day (or more). The bayes_token database is over 1.8 Gig at the moment. (Actual

Purging the Spamassassin Database

2006-01-12 Thread Jason Frisvold
Hi all, I've been investigating some recent slowness issues with our mail servers and I noticed that the spamassassin database is getting rather large. We process approximately 300,000 mails a day (or more). The bayes_token database is over 1.8 Gig at the moment. (Actually, 1.8 Gig for the data,

Re: getting spamassassin learn to separate spam from ham, postfix and exchange

2006-01-12 Thread Steven Stern
Steven Stern wrote: 1. I created two public folders, "should-be-spam" and "should-be-ham" and I semi-regularly remind users to copy (for ham) or move (for spam) mis-marked messages. The message that goes with spam includes a link to a web page explaining how to move a mis-marked spam messag

Re: getting spamassassin learn to separate spam from ham, postfix and exchange

2006-01-12 Thread Steven Stern
Karsten Krämer wrote: Hi, we use postfix, amavisd-new, spamassassin on a linux box as relay, exchange on server 2003 as final destination. Which way is the best to get (ham and/or spam) mail out of user mailboxes from exchange to linux for further "sa-learning". Maybe there exist some Howto

Re: Marked as spam when under required score

2006-01-12 Thread Josh Berry
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 11:15 -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > $ man spamassassin > [...] >-t, --test-mode >Test mode. Pipe message through and add extra report. >Note that the report text assumes that the message is >spam, since in normal use it is only v

getting spamassassin learn to separate spam from ham, postfix and exchange

2006-01-12 Thread Karsten Krämer
Hi, we use postfix, amavisd-new, spamassassin on a linux box as relay, exchange on server 2003 as final destination. Which way is the best to get (ham and/or spam) mail out of user mailboxes from exchange to linux for further "sa-learning". Maybe there exist some Howto - we didn't manage to

Re: dealing with SPF and external authenticated users

2006-01-12 Thread leolistas
Citando Brian Godette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > AFAIK ebay, paypal, and quickbooks all (can) send mail on behalf of a > user > using their (real) email address, and is one of the gotchas of SPF. My > solution was to include ebay/paypal's SPF records in our own on the > assumption that they're unlik