Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-18 Thread Noel Butler
On 19/07/2022 09:49, Grant Taylor via users wrote: At the very least they let you know that a message was rejected. I can then go look at my MTAs logs and deduce why message(s) were rejected with more authority than anything the MLM could tell me. Is that what you tell your customers? I'm

Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-18 Thread Grant Taylor via users
On 7/18/22 5:30 PM, Noel Butler wrote: Which is a joke, because it does not, and qmails ezmlm has never included enough of the headers telling us _why_ we rejected it. Your opinion of the notification doesn't change the intention behind the notification. Most of the notifications that I see

Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-18 Thread Noel Butler
On 19/07/2022 09:12, Grant Taylor via users wrote: Every version of what you describe that I've looked at has been the courtesy message. Which is a joke, because it does not, and qmails ezmlm has never included enough of the headers telling us _why_ we rejected it. But seriously folks, why

Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-18 Thread Grant Taylor via users
On 7/18/22 4:23 PM, @lbutlr wrote: Don't know why this didn't go through. chuckle The copy with your comment /did/. But I suppose the message that prompted you to make the comment didn't. That is what it is SUPPOSED to be. What it actually is is something else. Every version of what

Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-18 Thread
Don't know why this didn't go through. On 2022 Jul 13, at 12:24, Grant Taylor via users wrote: > On 7/13/22 12:19 PM, @lbutlr wrote: >> So, a supposed bounce from also three years ago. And that bounce did not >> come from my mail server as I have never run qmail. No IP addresses, no >>

Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-14 Thread Noel Butler
On 14/07/2022 17:27, Benny Pedersen wrote: Noel Butler skrev den 2022-07-14 00:38: ezmlm has been long brain dead, I particularly like its messages saying its reject message but never tells you the actual 5xx code. I aint about to go through 2019's logs to find out why either :)

Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
Noel Butler skrev den 2022-07-14 00:38: ezmlm has been long brain dead, I particularly like its messages saying its reject message but never tells you the actual 5xx code. I aint about to go through 2019's logs to find out why either :) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-13 Thread Noel Butler
On 14/07/2022 04:24, Grant Taylor via users wrote: On 7/13/22 12:19 PM, @lbutlr wrote: So, a supposed bounce from also three years ago. And that bounce did not come from my mail server as I have never run qmail. No IP addresses, no Received headers, nothing that could possibly be used to

Re: Supposed bounces

2022-07-13 Thread Grant Taylor via users
On 7/13/22 12:19 PM, @lbutlr wrote: So, a supposed bounce from also three years ago. And that bounce did not come from my mail server as I have never run qmail. No IP addresses, no Received headers, nothing that could possibly be used to figure out what is going on here. I think this is a

Supposed bounces

2022-07-13 Thread @lbutlr
On 2022 Jul 12, at 13:08, users-h...@spamassassin.apache.org wrote: > Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the > users@spamassassin.apache.org mailing list. > > > Messages to you from the users mailing list seem to > have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce > message I

RE: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 18:40 -0800, Robert Hanson wrote: Yes, complaining instead of notifying the right people. Way to go! karsten, woooh! you are welcome! :-) since i dont know who it is, what do you expect? From a bunch of mail admins? To contact LIST-owner@ [1] and summon

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 19:09 +0100, wolfgang wrote: In an older episode (Sunday, 24. January 2010), Evan Platt wrote: On 1/23/2010 11:56 AM, wolfgang wrote: I sent an unsubscription request for the address in question to users-ow...@spamassassin.apache.org. Won't work, AFAIK. You need

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 20:53 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Appears the bounce, any email addresses and the attached original are *severely* munged. Spotted a hint, need this to generate a direct bounce. Will unsubscribe the offender, if I can track it down. On 23.01.10 21:18,

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-24 Thread Evan Platt
On 1/23/2010 11:56 AM, wolfgang wrote: I sent an unsubscription request for the address in question to users-ow...@spamassassin.apache.org. Won't work, AFAIK. You need to reply to the unsub request to confirm it. Otherwise, you would be able to unsubscribe anyone :)

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun 24 Jan 2010 05:55:21 PM CET, Evan Platt wrote Won't work, AFAIK. You need to reply to the unsub request to confirm it. Otherwise, you would be able to unsubscribe anyone :) why did the bounce not go to apache.org ?, or did it, but apache.org did not see the problem in maillist ? not

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-24 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Sunday, 24. January 2010), Evan Platt wrote: On 1/23/2010 11:56 AM, wolfgang wrote: I sent an unsubscription request for the address in question to users-ow...@spamassassin.apache.org. Won't work, AFAIK. You need to reply to the unsub request to confirm it. Otherwise,

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-24 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Sunday, 24. January 2010), Benny Pedersen wrote: You are right, concerning mails to users-unsubscr...@spamassassin.org why did the bounce not go to apache.org ? As stated before: because the MTA of the recipient sends bounces to the address in the From: header line

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-24 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat
In an older episode (Sunday, 24. January 2010), Benny Pedersen wrote: You are right, concerning mails to users-unsubscr...@spamassassin.org why did the bounce not go to apache.org ? As stated before: because the MTA of the recipient sends bounces to the address in the From: header line

Re: [sa] Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-24 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010, Benny Pedersen wrote: why did the bounce not go to apache.org ?, or did it, but apache.org did not see the problem in maillist ? Because we have a caching server accepting the mail, and then when it *finally* decides the client is not going to retrieve the mail, it

administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-23 Thread RobertH
why is the account or accounts that create the Delivery Status Notification (Failure) bounces from administra...@willspc.net still subscribed to the list? - rh

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-23 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Saturday, 23. January 2010), RobertH wrote: why is the account or accounts that create the Delivery Status Notification (Failure) bounces from administra...@willspc.net still subscribed to the list? Probably because the bounces go to the message authors

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat 23 Jan 2010 07:35:43 PM CET, RobertH wrote why is the account or accounts that create the Delivery Status Notification (Failure) bounces from administra...@willspc.net still subscribed to the list? it does not bounce to apache org, only to subscribers :) just hoped that maillist-owner

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-23 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 20:21 +0100, wolfgang wrote: In an older episode (Saturday, 23. January 2010), RobertH wrote: why is the account or accounts that create the Delivery Status Notification (Failure) bounces from administra...@willspc.net still subscribed to the list? Yes, complaining

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-23 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Saturday, 23. January 2010), Benny Pedersen wrote: just hoped that maillist-owner is a subscriber aswell and post more here to see the problem I sent an unsubscription request for the address in question to users-ow...@spamassassin.apache.org. I hope that's more effective

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-23 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2010-01-23 at 20:53 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Appears the bounce, any email addresses and the attached original are *severely* munged. Spotted a hint, need this to generate a direct bounce. Will unsubscribe the offender, if I can track it down. Done. How nice of them to

RE: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-23 Thread R-Elists
Yes, complaining instead of notifying the right people. Way to go! karsten, woooh! you are welcome! :-) since i dont know who it is, what do you expect? this isnt the first post to the list about it... there was another thread or two about it in the recent past... i.e. 1 to 3

Re: administra...@willspc.net bounces

2010-01-23 Thread jdow
From: R-Elists list...@abbacomm.net Sent: Saturday, 2010/January/23 18:40 Yes, complaining instead of notifying the right people. Way to go! karsten, woooh! you are welcome! :-) since i dont know who it is, what do you expect? this isnt the first post to the list about it...

exchange bounces from chrisrobin.hundredacrewood.local

2010-01-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
Original-Envelope-ID: c=US;a= ;p=HUNDREDACREWOOD;l=CHRISROBIN-100111200457Z-1594 Reporting-MTA: dns; chrisrobin.hundredacrewood.local Final-Recipient: RFC822;

Re: backscatter (was Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?)

2009-06-26 Thread Charles Gregory
figuring the answer is here, if anywhere 1) your MTA bounces, becouse your users mailboxes are full. Of the two questions, this one is closest, but it's not the MTA that generates the bounce. The MTA has handed off the message for delivery to individual recipients after accepting the DATA

cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread John Hardin
Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? If so, can we get him unsubscribed? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB8732E79

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Arvid Picciani
John Hardin wrote: Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? Yep. I wish backscatter.org had a reporting and educating form. Ie automaticaly inform the postmaster of that system of the listing incuding educational material how to fix it. Btw

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:09, John Hardin wrote: Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? If so, can we get him unsubscribed? here i have seen 25 of this bouncers, i have added his sender ip into postfwd client_address until its resolved, i

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 10:09 -0700, John Hardin wrote: Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? Taking care of that, already poked the almighty admins. -- char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4; main(){ char

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:09, John Hardin wrote: Is anybody else getting bounces on mail they send to the list from cas...@snigelpost.org? If so, can we get him unsubscribed? here i have seen 25 of this bouncers, i have added his sender ip

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:34, John Hardin wrote: Sure, but that doesn't help anybody else that posts to the list. it will if admins at remote read there logs, but yes we can only wait now -- xpoint

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces? [RESOLVED]

2009-06-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 19:32 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Taking care of that, already poked the almighty admins. FYI, they took care about this issue. Quite speedy. :) -- char *t=\10pse\0r\0dtu...@ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4; main(){ char

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces? [RESOLVED]

2009-06-25 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:48, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 19:32 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Taking care of that, already poked the almighty admins. FYI, they took care about this issue. Quite speedy. :) so now thay using postfix ?, fixing valid recipient maps is

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces? [RESOLVED]

2009-06-25 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
FYI, they took care about this issue. Quite speedy. :) so now thay using postfix ?, fixing valid recipient maps is dangerous :) What are you talking about, Benny? The ASF admins have removed the offending address from the list's subscribers. Anyway, this horse is now dead. Please stop

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Gregory
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Arvid Picciani wrote: I started blocking some backscattering hosts and would like to inform them how to fix the issue. I still welcome suggestions for handling the few remaining cases where my procmail chokes on a mailbox limit. Probably more of a PM question than an SA

Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Gregory
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, June 25, 2009 19:34, John Hardin wrote: Sure, but that doesn't help anybody else that posts to the list. it will if admins at remote read there logs, but yes we can only wait now If they do, they don't act very quickly. I've been rejecting

backscatter (was Re: cas...@snigelpost.org bounces?)

2009-06-25 Thread Arvid Picciani
) your MTA bounces, becouse your users mailboxes are full. Defer (temporary reject) the message at smtp time, so the sending MTA retrys a few times and ultimatly gives up informing the REAL sender. (you could also reject permanently, if you want that) If you absolutely can't fix the MTA

Re: spamassassin failure causing mail bounces

2008-08-14 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Diverting from the original question... Spamassassin is now down to *ONLY* 45% of cpu or thereabouts... Use spamc/spamd! According to your OP, you are calling spamassassin, forking a new heavy-weight process for each mail. This comes with a considerable start-up penalty. You can get rid of

spamassassin failure causing mail bounces

2008-08-13 Thread theWoosh
recieve -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/spamassassin-failure-causing-mail-bounces-tp18961801p18961801.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: spamassassin failure causing mail bounces

2008-08-13 Thread theWoosh
://www.nabble.com/spamassassin-failure-causing-mail-bounces-tp18961801p18962993.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: spamassassin failure causing mail bounces

2008-08-13 Thread theWoosh
://www.nabble.com/spamassassin-failure-causing-mail-bounces-tp18961801p18962995.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: spamassassin failure causing mail bounces

2008-08-13 Thread Duane Hill
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, theWoosh wrote: /etc/postfix/main had mailbox_size_limit set to 11 megs - can't believe this is the default! All 3 users are on holiday, so this is the first time this limit had been reached... upped it to half a gig and now the mail is getting through 11 messages?

Re: spamassassin failure causing mail bounces

2008-08-13 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 06:24 -0700, theWoosh wrote: /etc/postfix/main had mailbox_size_limit set to 11 megs That isn't a default value: the Postfix default is 5120, 50 MB. The mailbox_size_limit parameter is not defined in the default main.cf for the current version of Postfix (2.4.5) so if

Re: spamassassin failure causing mail bounces

2008-08-13 Thread theWoosh
is now down to *ONLY* 45% of cpu or thereabouts... they get a LOT of spam :-) Cheers -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/spamassassin-failure-causing-mail-bounces-tp18961801p18963976.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-09 Thread Justin Mason
Alex Woick writes: Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 : jm 5...; ./spamassassin -D -Lt /home/jm/DL/m346c7979.txt

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-06 Thread Alex Woick
Yes I did, and all the other backscatter is detected by vbounce fine: whitelist_bounce_relays lxrouter.wombaz.localnet *.prima.de But now I saw the Message-Id contained my local mail server name from whitelist_bounce_relays: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The lxrouter.wombaz.localnet can only

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, June 6, 2008 14:33, Alex Woick wrote: whitelist_bounce_relays lxrouter.wombaz.localnet *.prima.de should be ok if its public dns Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] postfix add $myhostname here For the time being, I solved the problem by removing lxrouter.wombaz.localnet from

vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Alex Woick
Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 Perhaps a phrase like wasn't able to deliver your message could be added

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread mouss
Alex Woick wrote: Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 Perhaps a phrase like wasn't able to deliver your message could

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Alex Woick
Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 Perhaps a phrase like wasn't able to deliver your message could be added

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread mouss
Alex Woick wrote: Just recently backscatter starts to hit me very bad, and I found out that bounces generated by qmail are not detected by the vbounce plugin. Here is such a backscatter mail: http://pastebin.com/m346c7979 Perhaps a phrase like wasn't able to deliver your message could

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Thursday 05 June 2008 23:34:42 mouss wrote: the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. RFC 2822 says: every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field. i can't find the addition except the origin is a pre stoneage qmail server here. Well it says SHOULD. So actually your system is

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Thu, June 5, 2008 23:34, mouss wrote: stop incriminating qmail. the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. if postfix adds a missing message-id, then it's a postfix problem, not a qmail problem. if qmail, if postfix, maybe he have 2 mta ? :-) postfix add mta hostname to message-id if

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread mouss
Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2008 23:34:42 mouss wrote: the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. RFC 2822 says: every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field. i can't find the addition except the origin is a pre stoneage qmail server here. This has

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread mouss
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Thu, June 5, 2008 23:34, mouss wrote: stop incriminating qmail. the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. if postfix adds a missing message-id, then it's a postfix problem, not a qmail problem. if qmail, if postfix, maybe he have 2 mta ? :-) so what?

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Arvid Ephraim Picciani wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2008 23:34:42 mouss wrote: the Message-id must be supplied by the MUA. RFC 2822 says: every message SHOULD have a Message-ID: field. i can't find the addition except the origin is a pre stoneage qmail server here.

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread Arvid Ephraim Picciani
On Friday 06 June 2008 00:11:37 mouss wrote: postfix adds missing (mandatory) headers because it works as a submission MTA, because this is how sendmail has always worked. This behaviour is no more desirable for an MX (it is good for an MSA). Right now i get your point. I thought you where

Re: vbounce does not catch qmail bounces

2008-06-05 Thread SM
At 15:25 05-06-2008, David B Funk wrote: However RFC-2821, section 6.3 (Compensating for Irregularities) says that the originating SMTP server may add a message-id field when none appears. So if qmail is the first SMTP server to fondle the message it could/(should?) add a message-id. It's up

bounces

2008-02-20 Thread Andrea Bencini
received. If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe bounces, I will remove your address from the users mailing list, without further notice. I've kept a list of which messages from the users mailing list have bounced from your address. etc

RE: bounces

2008-02-20 Thread Robert - elists
but I don't send messages to you from the users mailing list seem to have been bouncing. What do I have to do to resolve the problem? Andrea Andrea If you are using SA on your mail server, make sure that you whitelist all the lists that you are subscribed to... sometimes they will be

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread sacoo sacoo
what you are trying to do here, then legitimate bounce messages will also be dropped and thus you'll be decreasing the quality of their service. (and if you don't, you'll be creating backscatter) If I achieved what I'm trying there should been that much of problem: .- Only bounces generated

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread Justin Mason
, then legitimate bounce messages will also be dropped and thus you'll be decreasing the quality of their service. (and if you don't, you'll be creating backscatter) If I achieved what I'm trying there should been that much of problem: .- Only bounces generated by spammy mails would be marked as spam

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread sacoo sacoo
the VBounce rules before posting, but those rules are to stop the bounces reaching any of my servers , what I want to do is to use the default filter set with the bounces my own server is generating cause of the spam filters of my customers. The mails generated by [EMAIL PROTECTED] contain the typical

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread Kevin Parris
I think it might be easier if you would simply have a conversation with the techy folks at your customers- invite them to configure THEIR system so that either everything from YOUR system is OK no matter what spam status it has (they can route it to bit-bucket or whatever) or turn off the

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread sacoo sacoo
On 8/22/07, Kevin Parris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it might be easier if you would simply have a conversation with the techy folks at your customers- invite them to configure THEIR system so that either everything from YOUR system is OK no matter what spam status it has (they can route

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
It's still not clear (at least to me) what you actually want to do and what happens that creates a problem. You provide virus scanning, but not spam scanning? And they reject the spam coming from you? Is that what happens? Visit them and take a big club with you. It's obviously *completely*

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread Noel Jones
On 8/22/07, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's still not clear (at least to me) what you actually want to do and what happens that creates a problem. You provide virus scanning, but not spam scanning? And they reject the spam coming from you? Is that what happens? Visit them and take

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-22 Thread sacoo sacoo
On 8/22/07, Noel Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/22/07, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's still not clear (at least to me) what you actually want to do and what happens that creates a problem. You provide virus scanning, but not spam scanning? And they reject the spam coming

Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-21 Thread sacoo sacoo
Hello, It must been asked before, but I couldn't find any suitable, will be glad if you point me somewhere... In our company we have the (mailer-exchange - spam-scanner - customers with their own mail servers) topology. We relay mail to them but some of them don't have the spam service with us

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-21 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Hello, It must been asked before, but I couldn't find any suitable, will be glad if you point me somewhere... In our company we have the (mailer-exchange - spam-scanner - customers with their own mail servers) topology. We relay mail to them but some of them don't have the spam

Re: Scanning mailer-daemon bounces generated by localhost

2007-08-21 Thread Jo Rhett
Really the only way to solve this properly is to stop providing relay service. Relay service is a non-op in the current spam war. If you do what you are trying to do here, then legitimate bounce messages will also be dropped and thus you'll be decreasing the quality of their service.

reporting joe-job bounces to razor/pyzor/dcc

2006-12-03 Thread Chris
I'm full of questions tonight. Looks like the joe-job against me is running full force again, thanks to the VBounce rule set they're not going into my spam folder as to be run against my reporting script. However, would it cause any harm if these were run against my other script which reports

Passing on spam bounces to sa-learn

2006-11-24 Thread Kim Christensen
Is there anyone who has a working scenario in where double bounces are stripped from the two bounce messages (thus containing only the original spam mesage) and fed to sa-learn? These got tagged as spam the first time they arrived on the server, but since they double bounced, I wanna put them

FSCKED UP MAIL BOUNCES FROM THIS LIST

2006-07-21 Thread jdow
Hey guys, the Apache email system is hosed. It has bounced two recent emails, one because it supposedly already had list headers on it, which as it went out of here it did not. The other had the system's spamassassin filter barfing on the direct output of sa-stats.pl which included several BAYES

Re: FSCKED UP MAIL BOUNCES FROM THIS LIST

2006-07-21 Thread Evan Platt
At 03:01 PM 7/21/2006, you wrote: Hey guys, the Apache email system is hosed. It has bounced two recent emails, one because it supposedly already had list headers on it, which as it went out of here it did not. The other had the system's spamassassin filter barfing on the direct output of

Re: FSCKED UP MAIL BOUNCES FROM THIS LIST

2006-07-21 Thread jdow
, but that would be too mean. :-D I am pretty good at detecting fakes, I believe. Besides bounces from individual people get a procmail rule to bypass all further testing on all future emails from that domain on their way to /dev/null. I am not forgiving of mail bounces. Of course, since it is easy

Re: FSCKED UP MAIL BOUNCES FROM THIS LIST

2006-07-21 Thread James Butler
On 7/21/06 at 3:04 PM Evan Platt wrote: At 03:01 PM 7/21/2006, you wrote: Hey guys, the Apache email system is hosed. It has bounced two recent emails, one because it supposedly already had list headers on it, which as it went out of here it did not. The other had the system's spamassassin

Re: FSCKED UP MAIL BOUNCES FROM THIS LIST

2006-07-21 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 21 July 2006 14:01, jdow wrote: Hey guys, the Apache email system is hosed. It has bounced two recent emails, one because it supposedly already had list headers on it, which as it went out of here it did not. The other had the system's spamassassin filter barfing on the direct

Re: FSCKED UP MAIL BOUNCES FROM THIS LIST

2006-07-21 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 21 July 2006 14:28, John Andersen wrote: Replying to myself... It looks upon further inspection that this guy is the problem. He seems to be routing mail back to the list or something:  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:49:49 -0400 --

Re: FSCKED UP MAIL BOUNCES FROM THIS LIST

2006-07-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
John Andersen wrote: On Friday 21 July 2006 14:01, jdow wrote: Hey guys, the Apache email system is hosed. It has bounced two recent emails, one because it supposedly already had list headers on it, which as it went out of here it did not. The other had the system's spamassassin filter barfing

Re: FSCKED UP MAIL BOUNCES FROM THIS LIST

2006-07-21 Thread jdow
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Andersen wrote: On Friday 21 July 2006 14:01, jdow wrote: Hey guys, the Apache email system is hosed. It has bounced two recent emails, one because it supposedly already had list headers on it, which as it went out of here it did not. The

Re: FP's on BAD_ENC_HEADER in bounces from Microsoft SMTPSVC

2006-06-15 Thread Nick Leverton
headers shows :) I'm quite prepared to believe this is a MS bug, it certainly looks like it. But it seems to be a long term one - seen in emails from SMTPSVC versions 5.0.2195.6713 and 6.0.3790.1830. Remote MS servers, configured for foreign languages, sending genuine non-spam bounces to non-spam

Re: FP's on BAD_ENC_HEADER in bounces from Microsoft SMTPSVC

2006-06-15 Thread alan premselaar
it. But it seems to be a long term one - seen in emails from SMTPSVC versions 5.0.2195.6713 and 6.0.3790.1830. Remote MS servers, configured for foreign languages, sending genuine non-spam bounces to non-spam mails cause SA to FP on this rule. Nick Nick, As much as I'd like to say yeah, it's

FP's on BAD_ENC_HEADER in bounces from Microsoft SMTPSVC

2006-06-14 Thread Nick Leverton
Microsoft SMTPSVC seems to trigger BAD_ENC_HEADER when sending bounces if it's been given a non-English bounce template (or whatever M$ use for configuring that). Even bounces to correctly encoded mail. I've got quite a number of examples, and all of them have a foreign language Subject line

Re: FP's on BAD_ENC_HEADER in bounces from Microsoft SMTPSVC

2006-06-14 Thread Alan Premselaar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Leverton wrote: [snip] Subject: =3D?unicode-1-1-utf-7?Q?+kU1P4XK2YUuQGnfl- =20 (+MKgw6TD8-)?=3D Aside from the QP scatter, this subject doesn't look like it's properly encoded. if memory serves, if the encoded subject needs to be

That saudihub bounces are annoying

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Monnerie
Could somebody please remote that guy from the list? mfg zmi -- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem: -- Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Date: Freitag, 12. Mai 2006 00:40 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The

Re: German spam bounces

2005-05-17 Thread Fred
Kevin Peuhkurinen wrote: Having gotten the spam under control, I found that I was getting bombed with tons of bounces as well. So I made up a quick ruleset to stop undeliverables due to the german spam, using Raymond's ruleset as a starting point. You can get it here: I was working

Bounces to forged sender addresses

2005-05-11 Thread Matthew Newton
not all bounces include info about the original message, but this might help cut down some of them, maybe? Any comments? Thanks Matthew -- Matthew Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNIX and e-mail Systems Administrator, Network Support Section, Computer Centre, University of Leicester, Leicester LE1

Re: Bounces to forged sender addresses

2005-05-11 Thread Loren Wilton
Look at Time Jackson's Bogus Virus Warning ruleset. It is designed to catch backscatter of this general sort. Might not handle your exact case, but worth a try. Loren

Re: Bounces to forged sender addresses

2005-05-11 Thread Keith Ivey
Matthew Newton wrote: What would be the benefits of creating rules that fired on bounce messages only (i.e. came from ), and hit stuff like this. Are there any reasons why giving a score of 10 when matching Spam-Score: on a bounce would cause a real bounce to get rejected? Yes, if the

Re: Anyone have a rule to catch Mailer Daemon bounces to Forged Sender Address

2005-02-23 Thread Robert Menschel
, but with the volume so high LS they all tend to be ignored/deleted. Check out http://www.timj.co.uk/linux/bogus-virus-warnings.cf It will at least catch the virus-related bounces, and IMO with help from other rules should catch a fair number of spam bounces. Bob Menschel

Re: Anyone have a rule to catch Mailer Daemon bounces to Forged Sender Address

2005-02-23 Thread Larry Starr
the Postmaster messages, and LS feel that they should be reviewed, but with the volume so high LS they all tend to be ignored/deleted. Check out http://www.timj.co.uk/linux/bogus-virus-warnings.cf It will at least catch the virus-related bounces, and IMO with help from other rules should catch

Re: Bounces

2005-02-10 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:33 PM 2/10/2005, Jason Bennett wrote: 2. How can I reduce or even dump the bounces all together so my queue's aren't filling up with junk bounces with invalid destinations? Just don't use bouncing as a spam action at all if you filter after queue.. this is just a bad thing to do in general

How to handle bounces

2004-09-09 Thread Marco Supino
Hi, I have a question, and hope someone has a solution, I run Spamassassin 2.63 site-wide with sendmail and spamass-milter. When an email is marked as SPAM, the headers are added, and the subject is changed, now lets assume some particular user has enabled Out of the office , the bounced message

Re: How to handle bounces

2004-09-09 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
If you are that concerned about what information is revealed in out of office autoreplies, you should not be allowing OoO autoreplies externally anyway. They pose a far greater security risk in terms of leaking information that can be used in social engineering attacks than the risk you are

Re: How to handle bounces

2004-09-09 Thread Kelson
Kevin Peuhkurinen wrote: If you are that concerned about what information is revealed in out of office autoreplies, you should not be allowing OoO autoreplies externally anyway. They pose a far greater security risk in terms of leaking information that can be used in social engineering attacks

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