In my opinion, this is exactly the mistake of JSF. (and struts/jsp, etc).
They keep putting logic (in the form of tags) in the markup.
How long will it take until people understand that markup/xml is NOT a
programming language?
You have to seperate logic and markup. You cannot mix them.
Also JSF
I know JSF is standard; what is your idea about current JSF
status?
Just forget about it ... ;)
Agreed!
JSF is way too complex for doing simple things. They -again- forgot
the
KISS principle (Keep it Simple Straightforward/Stupid).
Wicket (but also Tapestry) is in my opinion a giant
Could'nt one petition a JSR for wicket? :)
-regards Nino
2009/12/22 Chris Colman chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com:
I know JSF is standard; what is your idea about current JSF
status?
Just forget about it ... ;)
Agreed!
JSF is way too complex for doing simple things. They -again- forgot
I have a Window component (Panel subclass) and button to dynamic
adding new Window to Base page,
but when i click this button (AjaxLink) i get error:
WicketMessage: Unable to find the markup for the component. That may
be due to transparent containers or components implementing
IMHO the keys fo JSF success are:
-They sell it as a standard with companies backing it up. It doesn't matter
if it is an over complicated model and that you need things like JBoss Seam
to fix it. On many companies decisions are taken by pointy haired bosses...
and they like to hear to the words
marioosh.net wrote:
I have a Window component (Panel subclass) and button to dynamic
adding new Window to Base page,
but when i click this button (AjaxLink) i get error:
WicketMessage: Unable to find the markup for the component. That may
be due to transparent containers or components
I love Wicket and the natural approach it offers to do web-development...
and I have been pushing hard to use it whenever possible... but on the
real world it is not enough to be an excellent product to gain
wide acceptance... Does last sentence ring a bell?
I think we've gained pretty wide
Hi Eelco,
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Eelco Hillenius eelco.hillen...@gmail.com
wrote:
I love Wicket and the natural approach it offers to do web-development...
and I have been pushing hard to use it whenever possible... but on the
real world it is not enough to be an excellent
I agree with you.
I think becoming a JSR also adds lots of friction to development.
2009/12/22 nino martinez wael nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com
Could'nt one petition a JSR for wicket? :)
-regards Nino
2009/12/22 Chris Colman chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com:
I know JSF is standard; what is
I just love advocating wicket into large corporations... :)
What are you going to do about the open bugs? And they say that
wicket's generics implementation is highly experimental, that doesn't
sound very trustworthy, does it?
But eventually we succeed.
Articles like the following are very
Once it reaches
that point there is no turning back because to change would be to admit
they weren't perfect at some point in the past
I wouldn't say that. If you have a look to the EJB1 en EJB2 api/spec, they
differ 90% from EJB3. At least with EJB they really saw that the initial
design was not
@Tomas, @Martin,
I already knew those links... Thanks anyway. Actually I went a bit further
an implemented the same application on different technologies so that
developers could evaluate for themselves the wonders of downsides of each
technology... plus detailed explanations of how the code
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Ernesto Reinaldo Barreiro
reier...@gmail.com wrote:
@Tomas, @Martin,
I already knew those links... Thanks anyway. Actually I went a bit further
an implemented the same application on different technologies so that
developers could evaluate for themselves the
But the problem is those who will take the final decision will take
into account more political reasons ...
Political?! You mean boneless ok, nobody ever got fired for
choosing IBM. But IBM is on board too:
- http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-aj-wicket/index.html
-
In business, decision makers choose standards and JSF is standard so JSF is
good and JSF is the King. But couldn't be The King Is Naked ??
OR
Am i wrong ? JSF is really cool and i don't know the hidden features ??
I don't want to start framework wars, this is useless but I think Wicket
should
The best april fools jokes are those that still fool fools, even 4
years after...
Martijn
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Martin Makundi
martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote:
But the problem is those who will take the final decision will take
into account more political reasons ...
Hi,
Is there a project/work that allows to resize and crop web images?
I would like to show Wikipedia images in a list, each displayed as e.g.,
100*100 px .
Thanks a lot,
Chris
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Named boneless if you want;-) The fact is that things like support and
big names
Second link was of a joke , wasn't it?
Best,
Ernesto
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Martin Makundi
martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote:
But the problem is those who will take the final decision will
JSF is just open source. Wicket is open source too.
Second link was of a joke , wasn't it?
IBM is giving courses in Wicket, so it must be true:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/os-dw-os-ag-wicket.html
I just whish IBM had a bigger brand name.. only three letters.
**
Martin
2009/12/22
sure theres a lot, if you want do to fancy image manipulation and
detection you could use imagemagic. Otherwise just google java crop
2009/12/22 Christoph Grün chris...@gmx.at:
Hi,
Is there a project/work that allows to resize and crop web images?
I would like to show Wikipedia images in a
Hi all,
We've just finished with success a wicket project for a large online
retailer. I think wicket is the best framework out there, but as any
other project there is room for improvement. I will talk about some
topics bellow, I hope it can help in some way.
- Separation of corcerns
I
+1 for last point Too many finals modifiers
and subclassing isnt always better than listeners - My 2cents
Sudhir NimavatSenior software engineer.
Quick start global PVT LTD.
Baroda - 390007
Gujarat, India
Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being
Ajax with wicket is easy.. if you do it the wicket way.. But integration with
other engines isnt going to be easy.
Not only Ajax, from my little wicket experience, I would say wicket works great
in isolation, however integrating it to any other framework would take (and it
takes)
bgooren wrote:
Well, you need to have some html in the container with wicket:id=win1
for your code to work. Wicket is (correctly) complaining that it cannot
locate html for your component. What kind of component is Window? (it's
not a standard wicket component)
Window is simple:
public
Is there any news regarding a release of Swarm 1.4 ? Because there's still
only the 1.4 snapshots in the repository.
For information, I'm currently using it with Wicket 1.4.3 and got no problem
so far : page security and component conditional rendering works fine.
2009/7/10 Luca Provenzani
Ok, so when you say I need to add more than 1 window, do you mean that the
type of window can differ, or that you want to add multiple windows at once?
In the first case (1 window), you could go for:
final WebMarkupContainer hook = new WebMarkupContainer(win1);
hook.setOutputMarkupId( true );
My redirect method isn't overriding anything, it's just there to provide a
shortcut to an external redirect, should I need it. Could it still be doing
some damage, somehow?
I was using bookmarkable pages just before switching to Hybrids, at the same
time I started using @RequireHttps, so they
Hi All,
FYI.
Groovy 1.7 has just been released with support for Anonymous Inner
Classes and Nested Classes (as well as other new features and
enhancements).
For those interested in using Groovy with Wicket this should make
things doable now and perhaps simpler than regular Java.
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:21 AM, sudhir543-...@yahoo.com wrote:
lol
Ajax with wicket is easy.. if you do it the wicket way.. But integration
with other engines isnt going to be easy.
maybe if you have little experience you should not be making such
sweeping statements. there are projects
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:51 PM, sudhir543-...@yahoo.com wrote:
Ajax with wicket is easy.. if you do it the wicket way.. But integration
with other engines isnt going to be easy.
IMHO integration with other engines is actually quite easy, and certainly
far easier than other frameworks, see
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Ricardo Mayerhofer
ricardo.ekm.lis...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
We've just finished with success a wicket project for a large online
retailer. I think wicket is the best framework out there, but as any other
project there is room for improvement. I will talk
Hi James,
Sorry for the late response. I would personally say: no, it isn't saving
that much. I use these few helper methods that are also part of the
project. However, some people requested support for annotations and like
using it. Additionally, it fits pretty well with
AFAIK wicket and Groovy has been possible with grails for a loong time..
2009/12/22 Ashley Aitken mrhat...@mac.com:
Hi All,
FYI.
Groovy 1.7 has just been released with support for Anonymous Inner Classes
and Nested Classes (as well as other new features and enhancements).
For those
if i have a link in a row of a datatable that deletes an item, how do i
make that row disappear? or just refresh the whole table?
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the table refreshes on every render, so as long as your idataprovider
does not retrieve the row after you delete it it will be gone.
sometimes it pays to simply try and see, most things will work as expected.
-igor
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Sam Barrow s...@sambarrow.com wrote:
if i have
that's how i thought it work, but it doesnt at all for me, ive tried so
many times. i have to re-click the link to the page, even a refresh with
the f5 key doesnt get rid of the missing row.
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 09:59 -0800, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
the table refreshes on every render, so as long
then check your delete logic, or set a breakpoint in your dataprovider
and see why the row entity is still being retrieved.
-igor
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Sam Barrow s...@sambarrow.com wrote:
that's how i thought it work, but it doesnt at all for me, ive tried so
many times. i have to
its the dataprovider, i was supplying it with a collection of rows in
the constructor, rather than getting the data fresh inside the
dataprovider. thanks!
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 10:05 -0800, Igor Vaynberg wrote:
then check your delete logic, or set a breakpoint in your dataprovider
and see why
Yes, from my little experience, I just started learning it [Because I feel it
has some thing different to offer]
orly? so what about integrations with hibernate, jdo, jpa, spring,
guice, cdi, etc? i guess all those things are a figment of my
imagination.
As I said it takes comparatively(to some
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:20 AM, sudhir543-...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yes, from my little experience, I just started learning it [Because I feel it
has some thing different to offer]
orly? so what about integrations with hibernate, jdo, jpa, spring,
guice, cdi, etc? i guess all those things are a
Thanks for clarifying the things,
show me a framework that makes this easier...
I think that when I when I was working with Webwork (Struts2 now) I dint need
to do any thing else other than specifying spring factory in one of config
file. Neither I was forced to use annotations.
LDMA might
Hi all,
I would like to know if there is someone writing about brix in some
blog. As the info in brix page is poor, I am looking for another way to
undersand better the cms.
Thanks in advance.
--
Fernando Wermus.
www.linkedin.com/in/fernandowermus
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:13 AM, sudhir543-...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks for clarifying the things,
show me a framework that makes this easier...
I think that when I when I was working with Webwork (Struts2 now) I dint need
to do any thing else other than specifying spring factory in one of
Fernando,
I have written a blog entry on the basic elements of brix. See it here
http://www.cybersnippet.nl/blog/entry/brixcms. In the entry is also a
link to a live brix demo app. Let me know what you think about it.
Greetings,
Haiko
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 18:17 -0200, Fernando Wermus
not definitely looking yet, but my company was just bought and while that's a
good thing, it's unclear to me exactly how everything is going to shake out.
so i'm curious what's going on out there. i can provide references from some
of the best in the industry. you already have a code
I just want to take this opportunity to thank all the Wicketeers who have been
very kind
to me over the past couple of years by 1) creating the Wicket framework and 2)
providing generous
support. The company I work for now has several enterprise-wise apps based on
Wicket, all of
which are
Steve Hiller schrieb:
I just want to take this opportunity to thank all the Wicketeers who have been
very kind
to me over the past couple of years by 1) creating the Wicket framework and 2)
providing generous
support. The company I work for now has several enterprise-wise apps based on
Hi Nino (et al.),
I'm not sure, but I think you are referring to Grails using Wicket
pages (components) written in Java for the presentation layer. I am
not talking about Grails.
There have been a couple of projects / attempts to use Groovy to write
Wicket components and applications
look at london wicket. I think I see something with wicket.
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:12 AM, nino martinez wael
nino.martinez.w...@gmail.com wrote:
sure theres a lot, if you want do to fancy image manipulation and
detection you could use imagemagic. Otherwise just google java crop
so how does webwork know which properties of your actions should be injected
from spring and which from the request or session objects?
- Actions can be configured as spring beans... webwork knows how to get it from
there, developer decides what dependencies should be managed by spring.
-
One more thing I am still looking for is, integrating GWT. I did that before
with other framework.
Sudhir NimavatSenior software engineer.
Quick start global PVT LTD.
Baroda - 390007
Gujarat, India
Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:27 PM, sudhir543-...@yahoo.com wrote:
so how does webwork know which properties of your actions should be injected
from spring and which from the request or session objects?
- Actions can be configured as spring beans... webwork knows how to get it
from there,
so do it with wicket. nothing is stopping you. i know of a few
projects that have a working gwt integration, but they are not open
source. so its possible, and quiet easily.
-igor
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Sudhir N sudhir_nima...@yahoo.com wrote:
One more thing I am still looking for
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