Re: The future of the Vim project

2023-08-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
on small and almost-guaranteed-not-to-break changes with at least two trusted people checking each before going live. I think you suggested that. Perhaps in a few months after things have settled down, more adventurous changes could be considered. John Beckett > > -- -- You received this

Problem using cgn to change a search hit when replacement includes hit

2015-12-13 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Thanks Christian for the excellent gn added in 7.3.610. However, using Vim 7.4.972 I'm seeing this problem with cgn after search. Put the cursor at beginning of line: abc x def x ghi x jkl Type /x and press Enter to find first x. Type cgn"x" and press Esc to replace search hit with "x" (three

RE: Google summer of code

2015-02-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram wrote: The Summer of Code is here again this year. If we want Vim to participate we need a few mentors and someone to organise the application. To be realistic, I won't have much time for this. I can help out where needed, but the bulk of the work will have to be done by you!

RE: fixes to vim.org

2014-09-04 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Kartik Agaram wrote: He's referring to the link Plain text (by Yegappan Lakshmanan and Gavin Sinclair), which should probably be deleted. Bram: It looks like a few documentation changes are needed. *** http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/ The first (Plain text) and third (Vim Help format) lines

RE: New digraph

2014-06-17 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Christian Brabandt wrote: With the release of the Unicode version 7.0 yesterday, the rouble sign has been assigned U+20BD. It probably makes sense to update all the generated unicode data in the Vim source however. Can I hijack this to ask about U+2022 which is a nice bullet. One way to

RE: global command slow when clipboard=unnamed

2014-05-29 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
It's a bit hard to see the excellent advice in that last post, so here it is: To delete (not cut) all lines matching pattern use: :g/pattern/d_ John -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more

RE: Is Vim Applying for the 2014 Google Summer of Code? (was Is Vim Applying for the 2013 Google Summer of Code?)

2014-02-05 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Lech Lorens wrote: Would anyone else volunteer as a mentor? For GSOC2012, Bram needed another person to register with Google, and I was that person. I would be happy to do that again if wanted. I could act as a coordinator to check that things are ok for student(s) and mentor(s), and raise

RE: Rgrep not working on vim 64-bit, win7

2014-01-14 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
It looks like the wiki has had the answer since March 2013: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Script:311 That is linked in the top line at: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=311 I have not used the plugin, but what is written at the above looks exactly what is needed to fix the error

RE: Rgrep not working on vim 64-bit, win7

2014-01-13 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
lazureus wrote: I'm encountering some similar problems as Dariusz have seen however on the 64-bit Ubuntu. Trying to run :Rgrep from VIM I get following error message : Error detected while processing function SNR19_RunGrepRecursive..SNR19_RunGrepCmd: line 20: E484: Can't open file

RE: Plugin manager

2014-01-02 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Ben Fritz wrote: Because my workplace's IT somehow blocks access to github and other places when using git tools but not when using a browser. I can download an archive from github when I point my browser to the project webpage but git clone/fetch/pull all fail. You know about $http_proxy

RE: Plugin manager

2014-01-02 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Ben Fritz wrote: You know about $http_proxy (or some other method of telling the tool about your proxy server)? Nope, never heard of such a thing. But I actually never use git except for getting Vim plugins. At one point I could access Hg and git repositories just fine, but not SVN. Sure,

RE: Problem with Corel copyright

2013-11-01 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram Moolenaar wrote: I got pointed at a copyright notice in the $VIMRUNTIME/vimlogo.eps file. That's because the file was generated by Corel Draw and includes some stuff apparently written by Corel. To avoid a discussion about whether distribution is OK, perhaps someone can take the Vim

RE: setpos() and up = wrong position

2013-08-19 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Dimitar DIMITROV wrote: Now try :ec getpos('.') - [0, 4, 17, 0] Move away and :call setpos('.',[0,4,17,0]) If you use up down k or j you will not move just above/below the char but in some weird location Say the cursor is in column 20, then setpos() is used to jump to [d], then k is pressed.

Glitch in msvc2010.bat

2013-06-22 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
I wanted to update our tip[1] on building Vim in Windows with Visual Studio to use VS 2012 Express, as well as VSE2010. While doing that I noticed that there is a double percent (%%) in two batch files, and I'm pretty sure it is wrong. The extra percent is ignored, so nothing bad happens, but if

RE: www.vim.org is down

2013-04-30 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram Moolenaar wrote: Yes, the database appears to be down. They upgraded the project recently, but I have no reason to assume this is related. Please check the sourceforge site for any known problems. Or file a support ticket. I'm afraid I don't have time right now to look into it. The

RE: www.vim.org is down

2013-04-30 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram Moolenaar wrote: Please check the sourceforge site for any known problems. Or file a support ticket. I've poked around and can't find anything, so I have filed a support ticket: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/3872/ John -- -- You received this message from the vim_dev

RE: www.vim.org is down

2013-04-30 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
The vim.org problem has been fixed by Sourceforge. However, my checking of some recent changes to the vim.org database shows that vim.org was scanned by someone with Acunetix Web Vulnerability Scanner. That was used to generate at least 124 user accounts, including text fields intended to probe

RE: [patch] Move base Windows support to WinXP

2013-03-19 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram Moolenaar So how about this: 7.4.000 will be released with MS-Windows binaries that still support the old systems. Once it's out and it looks OK we drop support for older systems. That way 7.4 is what needs to be used for old systems. It includes a lot of bug fixes since the last

RE: [patch] Move base Windows support to WinXP

2013-03-19 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Roland Eggner wrote: Prior to dropping support for w2k please consider: (1) w2k is known to be the least faulty OS version released by its vendor so far, because the phrase based on NT was a lot more than just an advertising, the development history of this OS version differed significantly

RE: [patch] new cpo setting to make n/N search in the same direction

2013-02-18 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram Moolenaar wrote: This is what the attached patch enables, by adding the new flag 'N' to the 'cpo' setting. Well, instead of adding an option, what about: :noremap n /CR :noremap N ?CR The option would be much better! I sometimes map n and N to add zz so the hit is in the

RE: [patch] new cpo setting to make n/N search in the same direction

2013-02-18 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Gary Johnson wrote: Won't that break any plugins that use 'n' or 'N' after a reverse search? I agree that the proposed behavior would be less confusing than the current behavior, but changing it in any way that would break existing scripts seems like a non-starter. There are times when

RE: [patch] new cpo setting to make n/N search in the same direction

2013-02-18 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Michael Henry wrote: I've always been confused by the behavior of n and N after backward searches. The only work-around my brain can handle is to simply avoid backward searches entirely; instead, I search forward and press N. Agreed. That's usually how I resolve the problem as well.

RE: Any spam from ad...@139.com at vim_dev?

2012-12-17 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Gary Johnson wrote: Does anyone posting to vim_dev receive similar spam? I used to get this but I don't any longer. I still have two of them in my inbox, probably the last two I received. They're dated August 1 and 2, 2012. Thanks, but I need to know if you are sure the spam was as a result

RE: Vim patches page link is broken

2012-11-19 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram Moolenaar wrote: Bram: Do you want me to remove the Other Vim patches section from [1] (and email you when done)? I don't think the list was established elsewhere, so it needs to be removed? I thought we copied the patches to somewhere... If we don't have this list somewhere I think we

RE: Vim patches page link is broken

2012-11-18 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
So8res wrote: On the vim patches page [1] the link to vim_dev mailinglist patches [2] is broken. More generally, where should such website bugs be reported and how are they fixed? [1] http://www.vim.org/patches.php [2] https://groups.google.com/group/vim_dev/web/vim-patches Thanks,

RE: Suggestion to take more advantage of GUI elements

2012-08-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Hans Tovetjärn wrote: My knowledge is rather limited when it comes to C so it's difficult for me to estimate how much effort introducing something like this would take (which is part of the reason for me asking - curiosity). As Ingo mentioned, any GUI feature is likely to be resisted because

RE: Suggestion to take more advantage of GUI elements

2012-08-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Andy Wokula wrote: If it's just about the size of the LineNr font, you can have it changed: :hi LineNr font=XXX where XXX is a 'guifont' argument, :set gfn? Amazing! That works, although in a quick test it appears that the line number characters occupy the same width and height as

RE: does .= have advantage?

2012-08-08 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bee wrote: These do the same thing: let @/ = @/ . pad[c] let @/ .= pad[c] Is there an advantage (speed? resources?) to use one rather the other? Things like += and .= are mainly a convenience for comprehension. Using += the LHS is mentioned only once (LHS += RHS rather than LHS = LHS +

RE: GVim for Windows: Save / :w operates in non-standard way?

2012-07-24 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
sfosparky wrote: + IF one uses one of Flare's internal GUI editors, AND one also uses GVim for Windows to simultaneously edit the same file, THEN Flare gets confused I am not at all surprised by that! One BIG problem is that the user (you) is also sure to get confused at some critical time

RE: inputdialog() should use cancel value parameter

2012-07-16 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
I don't know, but a short problem description follows. In gvim, the following shows cancel if press Esc to cancel. :set guioptions :echo ''.inputdialog('Enter text ', 'default', 'cancel').'' But the following shows if press Esc to cancel. :set guioptions+=c :echo ''.inputdialog('Enter text ',

RE: histdel() and .viminfo

2012-07-09 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bee wrote: I tried to delete all search history using: :call histdel('/') This is a duplicate of your message in vim_use. Please do not post about the same topic here, as that just causes confusion. Any replies should be at vim_use. John -- You received this message from the vim_dev

RE: Advice on debugging a crash?

2012-06-21 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Jonathon Merz wrote: (I don't have access to Visual Studio unfortunately) It's pretty easy to install the free Express version, see: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Build_Vim_in_Windows_with_Visual_Studio Debugging would require using the GUI which requires registration (if used after the first 30

RE: Does it still make sense to have per-file/-type maintainers? [Was: Re: Added support for spell checking in runtime/syntax/ocaml.vim]

2012-05-21 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Here are some thoughts for a group-managed repo. It must be simple for the group managers, and for file maintainers, and for Bram. It must also be simple for anyone to report a problem or make a suggestion. It should be similar to the existing Vim repo, and Mercurial should be available just as

RE: Does it still make sense to have per-file/-type maintainers? [Was: Re: Added support for spell checking in runtime/syntax/ocaml.vim]

2012-05-21 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
What directories should the group manage? A possibility is below, although it may be too ambitious. It shows all first-level directories under runtime, with some to be managed by a group, and the remainder run directly by Bram. The files in 'runtime' would NOT be part of the group repo, but all

RE: home_replace() does not work with short path name on windows.

2012-05-21 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram Moolenaar wrote: What sign of modifier do you want against :8 ? :l ? Or new function? Currently :p turns any path into a full path, so that when two names are expanded with :p they can be compared to find out if they are equal. Except for symlinks, that requires using resolve(). So

RE: home_replace() does not work with short path name on windows.

2012-05-21 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
mattn wrote: If :p (on Windows) always produced the expanded long name, then :p:8 could be used if someone wanted the short full path. No. :echo fnamemodify('C:\Program Files', ':8:p') C:\PROGRA~1 If there is a problem, please spell it out as the above is correct. I can't see a reason

RE: Does it still make sense to have per-file/-type maintainers? [Was: Re: Added support for spell checking in runtime/syntax/ocaml.vim]

2012-05-18 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Kazunobu Kuriyama wrote: As a maintainer of a few runtime files, I have something to make sure of: Are there any changes for the current maintainers in what they observe--policy, obligations, or something similar to those, to maintain the runtime files they are in charge of? Nothing is

RE: Added support for spell checking in runtime/syntax/ocaml.vim

2012-05-11 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Dominique Pellé wrote: Yes. Maintainers were in CC of the emails. But perhaps I should write to the maintainers only to avoid sending too many emails to vim_dev (still more of those simple patches to come...) There is no good way to do this except to email the maintainers only ... wait, try

RE: Remote Motif X11 gvim on windows using Xming ( copy cut ) ClipBoard

2012-05-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bovy, Stephen wrote: I have tried using this source $VIMRUNTIME/mswin.vim But I cannot get the copy and cut to put anything on the clipboard First step is to check output of :version to see if you have +clipboard (feature supported) or -clipboard (not enabled during build). I do not know

RE: Remote Motif X11 gvim on windows using Xming ( copy cut ) ClipBoard

2012-05-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bovy, Stephen wrote: When I use a Different X-Window Server this strange esoteric problem completely disappears I'm glad you have fixed the issue but for the future please use the customs of this mailing list. Your last message includes five copies of the standard email footer which includes:

RE: incorrect description on how to subscribe to lists on http://vim.org

2012-05-07 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Žroutík wrote: I was trying to subscribe to the vim-dev list by email. Therefore, I sent an email to vim-dev-subscr...@vim.org (see below in the header of the original message) -- as requested at http://www.vim.org/community.php My email was delivered, but the subscription was unsuccessful

RE: Request to link Japanese translation

2012-04-30 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Taro MURAOKA wrote: We holds translated Vim's documentation in Japanese at here. http://vim-jp.org/vimdoc-ja/ Please add a link for it to http://www.vim.org/translations.php Or who are best to ask it? I added the information. You may need to reload the page in your browser (flush cache) to

RE: setting refresh: 'always' in a completion function breaks the dot ('.') register

2012-04-30 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Val Markovic wrote: Any help, advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Someone needs to spend quality time: 1. Working out the problem is. 2. Fixing problem. You could help point 1 by giving a brief indication of what the problem is. Yes, the subject line tried to do that, but a few

RE: set hlsearch not running from function

2012-04-23 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
smu johnson wrote: In case anyone is curious, I'm trying to simulate the regular searching slash key to be used to only search and highlight, but _not_ jump to the next match. Some good ideas are here: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Highlight_all_search_pattern_matches John -- You received this

RE: copy/mkdir/rmdir under windows

2012-04-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Charles Campbell wrote: I think it would be best to NOT test when under Windows because there is no reasonable way to do so. If there were a reasonable way for a script to store persistent data, you could consider displaying a message the first time one of the commands is invoked, letting the

RE: copy/mkdir/rmdir under windows

2012-04-09 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Charles Campbell wrote: So, how best to make this work? I was thinking if has(win32) || has(win95) || has(win64) || has(win16) if executable(cmd) let g:netrw_localmovecmd= cmd move endif endif No, as Ben said it would have to be cmd /c move and that's just going to cause

RE: copy/mkdir/rmdir under windows

2012-04-09 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
John Beckett wrote: letting the user know that netrw will use 'move', 'mkdir', 'rmdir' as a default I mean 'copy', not 'move'. I wouldn't bother doing anything about it, but FYI line 3837: if executable(start) I just thought about this and checked. There is no executable 'start

RE: Vim compilation with --enable-pythoninterp on Ubuntu

2012-04-08 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Senthil Kumaran wrote: I am trying to compile vim from source with python interpreter on Ubuntu. I have installed the dependencies for vim, installed python2.7-devel and python2.7-dbg packages on Ubuntu and do the configure step like this ./configure --enable-pythoninterp

RE: Start Working Today

2012-03-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Marc Weber wrote: So does anybody have an idea whether this is a (badly written) real job offer by Bram or whether it is what it looks like: spam? Of course it's spam. I have already notified Bram and deleted the original post from the Google Groups archive. I don't think there is anything

RE: Start Working Today

2012-03-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Marc Weber wrote: It does not talk about the kind of employee they are looking for (coder, artist, ..) I had better warn any naive readers: Never believe anything you read on the Internet, including emails that appear to come from Bram. Spam can be spam (it is genuinely promoting something).

RE: DrChip's website is back!

2012-03-07 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Charles Campbell wrote: You may find it at: http://www.drchip.org/ Thanks Chip. I have updated all the pages at the Vim Tips wiki which used to refer to the old website (if anyone looks for that in 'Recent changes'), click 'Show bots'). John -- You received this message from the vim_dev

RE: Google summer of code mentor

2012-03-06 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Ben Schmidt wrote: I need a backup administrator, it's mandatory for applying. I can act as a backup if necessary, too. I've been a bit quiet recently, but if direct questions or a direct task were in front of me I'd be able to help out. Thanks Ben. If Bram is not around and I have some

RE: Google summer of code mentor

2012-03-03 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram wrote: 1. Write tests for the regexp engine, so that we can finally use NFA. 2. Fix bugs and review patches 3. Fix bugs and review patches 2. and 3. should be able to work together, so that the mentor (me) does not have to spend too much time on reviewing patches. To be able to apply

RE: EasyVim on windows

2012-02-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Robert Melton wrote: Wow. You can not be seriously linking a two our old executable and claiming it contains a lot of plugins. The only thing on that github is 3 executables and a blank README. Not to mention you have no other github activity, at all. Thanks Robert, you are right of course.

RE: Patch 7.3.443

2012-02-16 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Edwin Steiner wrote: I found it most reliable for testing to write a simple C program that prints its argv[] array. I did that a few years ago, and in case anyone is interested, here is what I used. /* Echo arguments in one line. * John Beckett 2007/05/25 * This is to see what is passed

RE: Vim cannot see several *.com files in system directory

2012-02-14 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Ben Fritz wrote: :r !dir C:\WINDOWS\system32\*.com Volume in drive C is Local Disk Volume Serial Number is EA9A-15F2 Directory of C:\WINDOWS\system32 02/18/2007 06:00 AM29,696 format.com 02/18/2007 06:00 AM16,384 more.com 2 File(s)

RE: XTerm Mouse Support on z/OS ??

2011-12-19 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bovy, Stephen wrote: When I use the mouse with vim and putty on z/OS the left mouse-click scrolls the buffer down The term type is xterm Please bottom post on this mailing list. Quote a small (relevant) part of the message you are replying to, and put your text underneath. Delete text that

RE: Where did the unofficial patches go?

2011-11-24 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Peter Valdemar Mørch wrote: I'm looking for patch #15: Correctly indent wrapped lines in particular. Google closed the ability for groups to have web pages or files. That is, they deleted the patches list. I had a discussion with Bram about whether we should put the list somewhere like the

RE: Update for the ssh_config syntax file

2011-09-27 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Leonard Ehrenfried wrote: I have already emailed the original author/maintainer (according to the file David Necas) but have not received a reply from him. What would be the best way to get the file into the vim distribution? (I have search but not found a contributors guide). Should David

RE: How can I patch vim 7.3 version updated with mercurial

2011-09-11 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
niva wrote: Following the instructions to get vim 7.3 last version with MErcurial, I am trying to patch this version with the latest patch under windows but... What Hong said. However, you may find this tip helpful: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Build_Vim_in_Windows_with_Visual_Studio John --

RE: [Bug][w32] Completion for filetype doesn't work on windows

2011-06-25 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Dominique Pellé wrote: It works for me on Linux too. I don't have Windows to test. I don't see why it would not work on Windows at first sight. I have just performed some tests on Windows XP: These work (pressing Tab provides argument completion): :command! -nargs=* -complete=file Xfil :echo

RE: [Bug][w32] Completion for filetype doesn't work on windows

2011-06-25 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram Moolenaar wrote: Dominique Pellé wrote: Thanks John. You're probably right about the {dir1,dir2} glob expression not being portable. Attached patch avoids such glob expression and should thus be more portable. I can only test it on Linux so I would appreciate if someone else can

RE: reproducing 'daw' on last word in a file

2011-05-02 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Jean-Rene David wrote: Sent: Monday, 2 May 2011 12:09 PM To: vim_dev Subject: reproducing 'daw' on last word in a file I would like to fix this item from todo.txt but can't reproduce it: 7 When using daw on the last word in a file and this is a single letter, nothing is deleted. Should

RE: vim.org is down

2011-04-23 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Ben Schmidt wrote: Turns out you're right, John, though I couldn't find any actual evidence in your mail or the thread you cited to prove it. :-) However, this page does prove it: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Custom%20VHOSTs Interesting docs, thanks. BTW while in general

RE: vim.org is down

2011-04-22 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Ben Schmidt wrote: Just to clarify, I don't mean that it's working for end users; I just mean it looks to me like the server is responding correctly, so if our DNS admin agrees to make the change outlined above, things should go smoothly. Here is a rehash from the August 2010 thread:

RE: vim crash

2011-01-24 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Hoss wrote: $ find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -name '*.pm' | xargs sh -c '/usr/ local/bin/vim -p $@ /dev/tty' The find command has 60 hits. Now, if I just run this command, it works fine, and I get 10 tabpages. I want each in their own tabpage, so I put this in my .vimrc file set tpm=60

RE: windows bug: filewritable() returns 0 if we use it on the current script being read

2010-11-03 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Craig Barkhouse wrote: Assuming you don't want permissive sharing when doing actual I/O (I argue above that you don't), I question the value of changing mch_access() in the proposed way. The point of mch_access() is to give you a predictor of what types of access will likely work. If the

RE: Dynamically changing the GVim icon

2010-10-08 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Axel wrote: is there any possibility - from within gvim - to change the Windows icon that is displayed for the application in the Windows shell (aka Windows Explorer ;-). As explained, no. If the icon really bothers you, I believe it is possible to easily hack an exe file. I rarely see icons

RE: Two Typos in the Vim FAQ ( http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/vimfaq.html )

2010-09-17 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Yegappan Lakshmanan wrote: If you wanted somewhere to host the download, perhaps the Files section shown at the following could be used: http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use This sounds good. I can upload the text version to this location. You would need to email me (or another manager)

RE: Two Typos in the Vim FAQ (http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/vimfaq.html )

2010-09-17 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Christian Brabandt wrote: Major problems of putting the FAQ on the wiki include: - The size, and working out how to split it up (doable). Please don't split it. How about submitting the FAQ to Bram for inclusion into the Vim runtime files? I already got: ~$ ls ~/.vim/doc/*faq* vim_faq.txt

RE: Two Typos in the Vim FAQ ( http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/vimfaq.html )

2010-09-16 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Yegappan Lakshmanan wrote: Last year I thought about moving the FAQ pages to the Vim Wiki site. But that didn't happen. As the FAQ is a big document, we need to split it into multiple wiki pages (one per section?). Sorry that I abandoned that project (well, technically, it is still on my TODO

RE: [patch] Add tabpage index in tabline

2010-09-06 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Nicholas wrote: I am used to work with tab pages in vim in console mode. One of the most commonly used actions is to jump from one tab page to another. There are several ways: 1) using :tabnext or :tabprevious command repeatedly until target tab page is arrived. 2) count the target tab

RE: [patch] Re: 7.3 unable to load ruby 1.9.2?

2010-08-27 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Jon wrote: any feedback from a core committer as to whether this patch is acceptable to be merged into default? Bram (see :help credits) is the Vim developer. It's an awkward time currently because Bram was super busy preparing the Vim 7.3 release over the last few weeks, so if there is no

RE: [Suggestion]: Use different colors to make :dig output more readable

2010-08-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Axel wrote: I often use the :digraph command to find foreign language characters. But looking for a certain character sometines is like finding a needle in the haystack. Would it be possible to color-code the three colums of :dig's output? Finding a character is hard. I suppose some clever

RE: [patch] (win32) extremely slow opening files on network shares

2010-08-24 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
David Anderson wrote: Subject: [patch] (win32) extremely slow opening files on network shares This is a very important patch because we have had many Windows users report extremely slow access to files over a network. I have edited David's patch by including a comment about its purpose, and to

RE: [BUG] Being provided some equal recursive structures, equality operator never stops comparison

2010-08-23 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
ZyX wrote: Attached script, being sourced causes vim to hang up forever. Test command: vim -u NONE -c 'so bug.vim' To clarify the problem, start Vim 7.3.3 and enter the following (this is the essence of the script mentioned above, and will cause Vim to hang, so close all files first):

RE: Removing vim-patches included in Vim 7.3

2010-08-17 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Xavier de Gaye wrote: As there won't be a vimGdb patch for vim73, can you please also remove: 6. vimGdb I have updated the patches list: http://groups.google.com/group/vim_dev/web/vim-patches I added a brief intro to say that some patches are no longer listed because they are in Vim 7.3.

RE: vim.org without www

2010-08-16 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
John Beckett wrote: Do you know why vim website doesn't respond to 'http://vim.org'? and responds only 'http://www.vim.org' Apart from the possibility as Tony mentioned that a browser may attempt to use www.vim.org if vim.org fails to resolve, the reason vim.org might work is because the DNS

Removing vim-patches included in Vim 7.3

2010-08-15 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
At Bram's suggestion, I will remove some patches listed at: http://groups.google.com/group/vim_dev/web/vim-patches Descriptions for the following items will be removed to simplify the list of patches by omitting those that are included in the newly released Vim 7.3: 4. Persistent undo 5. Lua

RE: vim.org without www

2010-08-15 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Sergey Avseyev wrote: Do you know why vim website doesn't respond to 'http://vim.org'? and responds only 'http://www.vim.org' Apart from the possibility as Tony mentioned that a browser may attempt to use www.vim.org if vim.org fails to resolve, the reason vim.org might work is because the DNS

RE: Mouse control in a Quick Edit mode Windows console

2010-08-13 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Jean Johner wrote: Mouse control is lost in Windows console Vim when Quick Edit mode is activated (see vim_use: Is there a way to have mouse control in a Quick Edit mode Windows console?). You have had some probably not replies, so let me be more definite. You are talking about Windows command

Testdir use of rmdir /Q /S for DOS/Windows

2010-08-13 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
src/testdir/Make_dos.mak runs for every test on DOS/Windows (I think), and it includes: rmdir /s /q Xfind Isn't that redundant, because it is only needed for test73.in which performs the above operation? test73.in includes: : if has(win16) || has(win32) || has(win64) || has(dos16) ||

RE: Vim 7.3f: :r file fails when 'compatible'

2010-08-13 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Gary Johnson wrote: In a directory containing a simple text file named 'mary', execute the following: $ vim -u NONE -i NONE :r mary The result is the following two error messages: E812: Autocommands changed buffer or buffer name E484: Can't open file mary This bug also

RE: ex program inserts null char for newline upon insert/append of backslash newline

2010-08-11 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Frush wrote: We tracked down the issue to a change in the file src/ex_getln.c. Vimboss is Bram Moolenaar, the author of Vim. I noticed your first post and reproduced the issue, but have no idea what the correct behaviour should be. The thread is:

RE: Vim hangs on pasting a large amount into command line

2010-08-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Sometimes I paste some text into the Vim command line (example: type ':echo ' then Ctrl-R a to paste register a). If I accidentally paste a large amount (kilobytes), I have to wait a very long time (several minutes) while Vim struggles to handle the text. Pressing Ctrl-C has no discernible

RE: Vim hangs on pasting a large amount into command line

2010-08-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram wrote: In function getcmdline() (file ex_getln.c line 1840) we find: /* Always redraw the whole command line to fix shaping and * right-left typing. Not efficient, but it works. */ redrawcmd(); Removing that redrawcmd() makes accidental pastes of 8000 bytes into the

RE: Vim hangs on pasting a large amount into command line

2010-08-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Ingo Karkat wrote: There's no need to modify the source code to avoid the redraw; just turn off Arabic shaping. There was a discussion about this on this list two years ago (I was involved, that's why I remember ;-): http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/vimdev/message/51944

RE: Vim hangs on pasting a large amount into command line

2010-08-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Andy Block wrote: Are you by any chance using MacVim? I had this problem with MacVim and raised it in the MacVim list. No, but I mentioned your post earlier, see: http://groups.google.com/group/vim_dev/browse_thread/thread/40e590a3b0ca1b43 I had experienced this frustration a couple of times

Vim hangs on pasting a large amount into command line

2010-08-09 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Sometimes I paste some text into the Vim command line (example: type ':echo ' then Ctrl-R a to paste register a). If I accidentally paste a large amount (kilobytes), I have to wait a very long time (several minutes) while Vim struggles to handle the text. Pressing Ctrl-C has no discernible

Patch for src/testdir/test11.in

2010-08-08 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Attached is a minor patch to src/testdir/test11.in based on current Vim 7.3e (rev a88237afdb20). The patch uses executable(gzip) to test whether a gzip is available. If not, test11 quits, simulating success. The result is that all tests (except those documented as being excluded from

RE: E315: ml_get: invalid lnum

2010-08-07 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Here is a simpler way to reproduce the error. I have done the following on a Linux and a Windows build of current 7.3e (rev 3c51864309bc). I have also used Vim 7.2.18 with the same result. gvim +set nocp ve=all nosol -u NONE :h show :help Y yank first line Ctrl-^

Patch for src/testdir

2010-08-04 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Attached is a minor patch to three tests in src/testdir: src/testdir/test1.in Wrap comments consistently. src/testdir/test17.ok src/testdir/test17a.in Fix typo. src/testdir/test30.in Use 'copy /b' instead of 'cat' for win32. Test now works on Windows. John -- You received

RE: uninstal.c RegDeleteKeyEx unresolved

2010-08-02 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Bram wrote: Build stops at: uninstal.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _RegDeleteKeyEx I think RegDeleteKeyEx requires Vista or later, or XP x64. I don't need uninstal, but it breaks the build. I don't think this depends on the OS but on the compiler. I'm building Vim fine

RE: syntax/r.vim

2010-07-31 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Jakson A. Aquino wrote: I tried to contact the maintainer of syntax/r.vim I can't help you with that, but by the way... We have a page on the wiki intended to list scripts relating to R (because they are impossible to search for): http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Script:List_of_R_Project_scripts John

tarPlugin.vim needs to be updated to handle xz files

2010-07-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
In runtime file plugin/tarPlugin.vim, there are no lines for *.txz *.tar.xz which are needed to edit xz compressed tar archives. File plugin/gzip.vim handles *.xz, but tarPlugin.vim needs to be updated. The above is from Richard David Sherman who asked me to send it to vim_dev. Richard

RE: new trends in vim development (SPAM?)

2010-06-26 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Tony Mechelynck wrote: This looks like spam to me; I don't click links when I have no idea what the link will do. As Marc said, it is spam and probably MALWARE. Please do not click links like this! I noticed a similar attempt at vim_use a day or two ago and flagged it as spam (thus banning the

RE: On extending motions and matches

2010-06-22 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Adrien Pied Piérard wrote: it looks like motions like i or a' that work with quotations are hard-coded. As I happen to write a lot of math in latex, I have many $ signs everywhere that I would like to treat as quotations so that I can do da$ or yi$. I guess this could be implemented with

RE: Improved integration between Vim and its environment (full-screen, open URL, background execute())

2010-06-15 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Peter Odding wrote: I've asked myself why Vim's system() function on Windows uses vimrun.exe and shows a command prompt window. The only reason I can think of is so that the user has a chance to quit the external command using Ctrl-C. Sorry if the following is not relevant (I have not

Claimed memory leak in :match

2010-06-10 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
A recent edit to a tip includes a claim that having :match in autocmd events leads to severe slow downs due to a memory leak. The tip has a variety of methods to highlight unwanted spaces, including the following extreme version which attempts to highlight dubious spaces as you type, but NOT

RE: Fix for wrong indentation of JavaScript code by cindent

2010-05-22 Fir de Conversatie John Beckett
Hari Kumar G wrote: Vim uses cindent for JS files which works in general nicely. There are a few cases where this does not work correctly. F.e. var a = {     b: 1,     c: hello } cindent would align b: 1 to col 0 and indent c: hello by shiftwidth. This is because of how it treats labels

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