Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
Based on my experience with many thermal transfer agents for higher temperatures I think water remains the unique choice . Mercury as used in a process of converting cyclohexanol to cyclohexanone) is prohibitely expensive and very toxic- while organic agents as Diphyl (diphenil oxide plus

Re: [Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP -- sustaining mode

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
Stremmenos Paper does not take about 4H + Ni60, The paper takes about a single neutral hydrogen atom H + Ni58. Rossi says the same thing. we adopt the hypothesis of trapping a neutral temporary atom, or a mini atom, of hydrogen (with a diameter less than *10ˆ-14 m*) which transforms the

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:35 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Maxwell's equations were developed to describe laboratory electricity and magnetism experiments. ...from which the peculiar perpendicular nature of the phenomenon was already evident. Not really. Electric and magnetic fields in

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
As in a solar thermal system, use molten salts such as sodium and potassium nitrate or a combination of the two. It is cheaper to have 1000 thin molten salts pipes and a high pressure heat exchange, then 1000 high pressure steam pipes. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Peter Gluck

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Robin hits the nail on the head... Anything mathematical is the MODEL, and is supposed to reflect physical reality. My question was about the physical world -- what I was asking got was a rational, qualitative, cause and

Re: [Vo]:My essay Buying the E-cat in the sack?

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
not a bad idea if the salts are sufficiently stable,some problems of safety both with nitrates and (!) cyanides/ Perhaps on internal circuit. well closed a amd an outer with water. The problem of contacting a very hot surface remains for molten salts too. Peter On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:04 AM,

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-26 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Cude I will assert that tools do not make a carpenter, and that my views boil down to an assertion that cold fusion researchers are bad carpenters. Rothwell For this to be the case, they would all have to be

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 05/26/2011 05:09 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Mark Iversonzeropo...@charter.net wrote: Robin hits the nail on the head... Anything mathematical is the MODEL, and is supposed to reflect physical reality. My question was about the physical world -- what

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axel, Robin, ... and others. So far, everyone has danced around offering any conjecture pertaining to my original question. The crux of my original question was: When a chain reaction is initiated what are the speculated temperature ranges, both the high AND LOW VALUES? Plenty of discussion

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-26 Thread Roarty, Francis X
On Thu, 26 May 2011 03:05:02 Joshua wrote [snip] To the extent they believe cold fusion is real based on existing measurements, then in the opinion of mainstream science, they are mistaken. Every last one of them.[/snip] Josh, are you implying that that all the claims of heat anomalies

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Steven, I may be in a minority but I am convinced this is the same reaction as Mill's, Moller and Langmuir which requires changing states between h1 and h2 but since I am also convinced the Rydberg and hydrinos states are what Naudts proposed as being relativistic or in this case

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread fznidarsic
They are not. If you vary the phase angle all of Special Relativity pops out. http://www.wbabin.net/science/znidarsic.pdf Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:46 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: But so far no one has discussed and/or offered any speculation as to the lower temperature limit. IOW, how cool can the chain reaction be kept more-or-less sustainable? I think the control of

[Vo]:An equal and perpendicular reaction! EM Oscillation

2011-05-26 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
I realize that this is routinely trivialized, rationalized away and ignored; nonetheless, those who do so are merely dancing around the real question here! Why are em fields perpendicular (when one is inducing the other, purely speaking?) This is a fascinating question, especially because

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Frank, The math exceeds my skill set but I agree matter is real from a WSM or standing wave perspective and I even understand your posit that SR pops out of varying this phase angle. My only comment is regarding the semantic issues that always accompany this topic. One could

RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Harvey Norris
Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ --- On Wed, 5/25/11, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote: From: Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net Subject: RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular? To:

[Vo]:Something fron nothing

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
Observation of the Dynamical Casimir Effect in a Superconducting Circuithttp://nextbigfuture.com/2011/05/observation-of-dynamical-casimir-effect.html http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/05/observation-of-dynamical-casimir-effect.html

[Vo]:3D Ekit Renderings

2011-05-26 Thread Terry Blanton
Some interesting speculation on what's inside the Ekits: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/SpeculativeRenderingsRossiEnergyCatalyzer20111.shtml T

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Axel If you need an exact number, the start temperature is not that high. In the Sweden test, the water temperature was pushed up to 60C by the external heater before the reaction became gainful. The internal heater was also in action. So my guess is that the temperature of the

[Vo]:Yahoo QA Best Answer.

2011-05-26 Thread Harvey Norris
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110519181732AAeyuIL What are some uses of attracting the polarity of water? Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/

[Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes?

2011-05-26 Thread Rock_nj
While many branches of scientific inquiry have made incredible strides over the past century, earthquake prediction science has been woefully slow to make advancements that could lead to accurate scientific forewarning of pending earthquakes. Reports of unusual pre-earthquake atmospheric

[Vo]:More Alternator Records for Claims of Time Distortion

2011-05-26 Thread Harvey Norris
I was looking through my DVD  taping collection and found this one relevant to todays posting. http://youtu.be/NsOM_BOz-Y8 Adding an resonant inductor load in space to correct excessive phase angle found over 180 degrees. Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances

Re: [Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes?

2011-05-26 Thread John Berry
Seems to give some support to the claims that HAARP is being used to create earthquakes. Certainly it is interesting that these atmospheric anomalies have only been reported with the recent earthquake spate. Of course maybe this is valid as an indication of an imminent natural earthquake, but

Re: [Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes?

2011-05-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Speaking of predicting earthquakes, here is an astounding article: Trial set for Italian seismologists charged with manslaughter over failed quake warning

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 14:48:52 -0500: Hi, [snip] From Axel If you need an exact number, the start temperature is not that high. In the Sweden test, the water temperature was pushed up to 60C by the external heater before the reaction

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Joshua Cude's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 05:03:48 -0500: Hi, [snip] If even one of them is correct about the calorimetry, tritium, helium and other evidence, then the effect is real after all. Now, that's just ridiculous. Of course, many -- even most, possibly even all -- of the

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Robin: ... What makes you think it has to be 400 C to start? Nothing would tickle me more to learn that the initialization temperature is less than that 400 C. But then, maybe it needs to be greater than 400 C. I dunno! My initial starting point was loosely based on previous literature

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
FYI http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29. *Initial running to reach vaporization. *The temperatures of the inlet water and the outlet water were monitored and recorded every 2 seconds. The heater was connected

Re: [Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP -- sustaining mode

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 03:53:45 -0400: Hi, [snip] Stremmenos Paper does not take about 4H + Ni60, The paper takes about a single neutral hydrogen atom H + Ni58. Rossi says the same thing. And both may be wrong. we adopt the hypothesis of trapping a neutral

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 18:55:32 -0400: Hi, [snip] *Initial running to reach vaporization. *The temperatures of the inlet water and the outlet water were monitored and recorded every 2 seconds. The heater was connected at 10:25 and the boiling point was reached at

Re: [Vo]:An equal and perpendicular reaction! EM Oscillation

2011-05-26 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 05/26/2011 01:33 PM, Wm. Scott Smith wrote: I realize that this is routinely trivialized, rationalized away and ignored; nonetheless, those who do so are merely dancing around the real question here! Why are em fields perpendicular (when one is inducing the other, purely speaking?) Are

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axel, Robin, Thank you, both of you, for humoring me. I was aware of the March 29 report. I had already downloaded it. I was also aware of Figure 6 showing the evolution of temperature changes over time. However, having Axel specifically point out the kink that is recorded at around 60 C was

[Vo]:OT: (Wisconsin Politics) - Wisconsin judge strikes down collective bargaining restrictions

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/26/wisconsin.collective.bargaining/index .html?hpt=T2 Next stop: the Wisconsin Supreme Court, assuming they will take the case. (Most likely they will.) FYI: The You Tube link supplied below was actual footage I took on the evening of March 9 when Wisconsin

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
Excuse me for writing this here- Joshua Cude's hostility against CF and especially the E-cat could be used in a positive way. Joshua, please tell what would be a *PERFECT EXPERIMENT-* absolutely convincing for you- setup, instruments, measurements everything- telling it works or NOT? Thank you in

RE: [Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes? Geomagnetics can!

2011-05-26 Thread Mark Iverson
As far as atmospheric heating, I can't say... as far as geomagnetic disturbances prior to EQs, I think its VERY likely! This is based on the following first hand observations... I have a close friend who spent 30 years in electrical engineering, and 20 of that was making all kinds of very

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Andrea Selva
Some more questions Where the plot of the electrical power vs time is ? Where the monitoring of Rossi hands over the pump and heaters controls is ? Where the steam dryness measures are ? 2011/5/27 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net Axel, Robin, Thank you, both of you,

RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Mark Iverson
With all the interaction that JC has had on this discussion group, he should be well aware that most contributors on this list are probably at least as knowledgeable as he, and probably much more so. His statement about the language of physics is math is obvious. And CH's suspicions are