RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Mark Iverson
With all the interaction that JC has had on this discussion group, he should be well aware that most contributors on this list are probably at least as knowledgeable as he, and probably much more so. His statement about "the language of physics is math" is obvious. And CH's suspicions are wrong.

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Andrea Selva
Some more questions Where the plot of the electrical power vs time is ? Where the monitoring of Rossi hands over the pump and heaters controls is ? Where the steam dryness measures are ? 2011/5/27 OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson > Axel, Robin, > > Thank you, both of you, for humoring me. >

RE: [Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes? Geomagnetics can!

2011-05-26 Thread Mark Iverson
As far as atmospheric heating, I can't say... as far as geomagnetic disturbances prior to EQs, I think its VERY likely! This is based on the following first hand observations... I have a close friend who spent 30 years in electrical engineering, and 20 of that was making all kinds of very sop

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
Excuse me for writing this here- Joshua Cude's hostility against CF and especially the E-cat could be used in a positive way. Joshua, please tell what would be a *PERFECT EXPERIMENT-* absolutely convincing for you- setup, instruments, measurements everything- telling it works or NOT? Thank you in a

[Vo]:OT: (Wisconsin Politics) - Wisconsin judge strikes down collective bargaining restrictions

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/26/wisconsin.collective.bargaining/index .html?hpt=T2 Next stop: the Wisconsin Supreme Court, assuming they will take the case. (Most likely they will.) FYI: The You Tube link supplied below was actual footage I took on the evening of March 9 when Wisconsin rep

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axel, Robin, Thank you, both of you, for humoring me. I was aware of the March 29 report. I had already downloaded it. I was also aware of Figure 6 showing the evolution of temperature changes over time. However, having Axel specifically point out the kink that is recorded at around 60 C was info

Re: [Vo]:"An equal and perpendicular reaction!" EM Oscillation

2011-05-26 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 05/26/2011 01:33 PM, Wm. Scott Smith wrote: I realize that this is routinely trivialized, rationalized away and ignored; nonetheless, those who do so are merely dancing around the real question here! "Why are em fields perpendicular (when one is inducing the other, purely speaking?)" Are t

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 18:55:32 -0400: Hi, [snip] >*Initial running to reach vaporization. *The temperatures of the inlet water >and the outlet water were monitored and recorded every 2 seconds. The heater >was connected at 10:25 and the boiling point was reached at 10

Re: [Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP -- sustaining mode

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 03:53:45 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Stremmenos Paper does not take about 4H + Ni60, The paper takes about a >single neutral hydrogen atom H + Ni58. Rossi says the same thing. And both may be wrong. > > > >we adopt the hypothesis of trapping a neutral t

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
FYI http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29. *Initial running to reach vaporization. *The temperatures of the inlet water and the outlet water were monitored and recorded every 2 seconds. The heater was connected a

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Robin: ... > What makes you think it has to be 400 C to start? Nothing would tickle me more to learn that the "initialization" temperature is less than that 400 C. But then, maybe it needs to be greater than 400 C. I dunno! My initial starting point was loosely based on previous literature

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to Joshua Cude's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 05:03:48 -0500: Hi, [snip] >> If even one of them is correct about the calorimetry, tritium, helium and >other evidence, then the effect is real after all. > > >Now, that's just ridiculous. Of course, many -- even most, possibly even all >-- of

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread mixent
In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Thu, 26 May 2011 14:48:52 -0500: Hi, [snip] >From Axel > >> If you need an exact number, the start temperature is not >> that high. In the Sweden test, the water temperature was >> pushed up to 60C by the external heater before the reac

Re: [Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes?

2011-05-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Speaking of predicting earthquakes, here is an astounding article: "Trial set for Italian seismologists charged with manslaughter over failed quake warning" http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/90049752?Trial%20set%20for%20Italian%20seismologists%20charged%20with%20manslaughter%20over%20failed

Re: [Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes?

2011-05-26 Thread John Berry
Seems to give some support to the claims that HAARP is being used to create earthquakes. Certainly it is interesting that these atmospheric anomalies have only been reported with the recent earthquake spate. Of course maybe this is valid as an indication of an imminent natural earthquake, but mayb

[Vo]:More Alternator Records for Claims of Time Distortion

2011-05-26 Thread Harvey Norris
I was looking through my DVD  taping collection and found this one relevant to todays posting. http://youtu.be/NsOM_BOz-Y8 Adding an resonant inductor load in space to correct excessive phase angle found over 180 degrees. Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups

[Vo]:Can Atmospheric Heating Predict Future Earthquakes?

2011-05-26 Thread Rock_nj
While many branches of scientific inquiry have made incredible strides over the past century, earthquake prediction science has been woefully slow to make advancements that could lead to accurate scientific forewarning of pending earthquakes. Reports of unusual pre-earthquake atmospheric phenomena

[Vo]:Yahoo Q&A Best Answer.

2011-05-26 Thread Harvey Norris
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110519181732AAeyuIL What are some uses of attracting the polarity of water? Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Axel > If you need an exact number, the start temperature is not > that high. In the Sweden test, the water temperature was > pushed up to 60C by the external heater before the reaction > became gainful. > > The internal heater was also in action. So my guess is that > the temperature of t

[Vo]:3D Ekit Renderings

2011-05-26 Thread Terry Blanton
Some interesting speculation on what's inside the Ekits: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/SpeculativeRenderingsRossiEnergyCatalyzer20111.shtml T

[Vo]:Something fron nothing

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
Observation of the Dynamical Casimir Effect in a Superconducting Circuit http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/05/observation-of-dynamical-casimir-effect.html

RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Harvey Norris
Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ --- On Wed, 5/25/11, Mark Iverson wrote: From: Mark Iverson Subject: RE: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular? To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2011, 8:34

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Frank, The math exceeds my skill set but I agree matter is real from a WSM or standing wave perspective and I even understand your posit that SR pops out of varying this phase angle. My only comment is regarding the semantic issues that always accompany this topic. One could argu

[Vo]:"An equal and perpendicular reaction!" EM Oscillation

2011-05-26 Thread Wm. Scott Smith
I realize that this is routinely trivialized, rationalized away and ignored; nonetheless, those who do so are merely dancing around the real question here! "Why are em fields perpendicular (when one is inducing the other, purely speaking?)" This is a fascinating question, especially because the

Re: [Vo]:My essay "Buying the E-cat in the sack?"

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
I do not have any data coming from Defkalion, e.g. re cycling, is the unit automated as my gas (methane) home heater? Last summer the entire block building - 40 two room flats, 10 stores was insulated with polystyrene blocks 20 cm thick- this winter the heating bill has halved. I will try to buy an

Re: [Vo]:My essay "Buying the E-cat in the sack?"

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
In the home heating unit that the Greeks are building, that unit cycles an enormous number of times to heat a home. How cycling affects the life of the fuel is the first and most important test to be run on the E-Cat home heating product. If they can sell a home heating product, they should b

Re: [Vo]:My essay "Buying the E-cat in the sack?"

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
How many 1 MW E-cat groups? The solar plant has 110 MW. For the time given we have no idea how many times can you stop and restart the E-cats with no negative effects on the performance. For example if you get thermal peaks anytime you start up the devices- there are chances that some active sites

Re: [Vo]:I want to make solar powered singing bird houses

2011-05-26 Thread fznidarsic
Thanks Terry, I was search for sound chip, sound circuit, singing bird, Its "sound module" thanks -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton To: vortex-l Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 6:56 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:I want to make solar powered singing bird houses Frank, meet Google: http

Re: [Vo]:My essay "Buying the E-cat in the sack?"

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
Obama administration grants $737 million for a 24/7 solar power plant http://blogs.forbes.com/toddwoody/2011/05/19/obama-administration-grants-737-million-for-a-247-solar-power-plant/ A group of 1 megawatt thermal E-Cats could reduce the cost of this plant by producing heat at night when the

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
If you need an exact number, the start temperature is not that high. In the Sweden test, the water temperature was pushed up to 60C by the external heater before the reaction became gainful. The internal heater was also in action. So my guess is that the temperature of the hydrogen envelope was

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Charles Hope
On May 26, 2011, at 4:09, Joshua Cude wrote: > The language of physics is math. > This is a deep statement, worth unpacking. It means that if an idea can't be written mathematically, it is not physics. I suspect that the sort of answer that Mark seeks could not be written mathematically.

Re: [Vo]:I want to make solar powered singing bird houses

2011-05-26 Thread Terry Blanton
Frank, meet Google: http://www.google.com/search?client=gmail&rls=gm&q=toy%20greeting%20card%20sound%20modules http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/sound-module-for-toys.html On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:45 AM, wrote: > > Where can I get the singing devices that are commonly used in stuffed toys. > a

[Vo]:The New RAV4 EV

2011-05-26 Thread Terry Blanton
A 2001 RAV4 EV owner drives the new 2012 RAV4 EV: http://www.pluginamerica.org/drivers-seat/rav4-ev-heart-tesla Note that the 2001 model used NiMH battery technology. T

[Vo]:I want to make solar powered singing bird houses

2011-05-26 Thread fznidarsic
Where can I get the singing devices that are commonly used in stuffed toys. any ideas? Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:46 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > But so far no one has discussed and/or offered any speculation as to the > lower temperature limit. IOW, how "cool" can the chain reaction be kept > more-or-less sustainable? I think the control of the reaction is a bi

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread fznidarsic
They are not. If you vary the phase angle all of Special Relativity pops out. http://www.wbabin.net/science/znidarsic.pdf Frank Znidarsic

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Steven, I may be in a minority but I am convinced this is the same reaction as Mill's, Moller and Langmuir which requires changing states between h1 and h2 but since I am also convinced the Rydberg and hydrinos states are what Naudts proposed as being "relativistic" or in this case "equi

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-26 Thread Roarty, Francis X
On Thu, 26 May 2011 03:05:02 Joshua wrote [snip] To the extent they believe cold fusion is real based on existing measurements, then in the opinion of mainstream science, they are mistaken. Every last one of them.[/snip] Josh, are you implying that that all the claims of heat anomalies are

RE: [Vo]:A question about how e-Cats manage to self-sustain

2011-05-26 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Axel, Robin, ... and others. So far, everyone has danced around offering any conjecture pertaining to my original question. The crux of my original question was: When a "chain" reaction is initiated what are the speculated temperature ranges, both the high AND LOW VALUES? Plenty of discussion h

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 05/26/2011 05:09 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Robin hits the nail on the head... Anything mathematical is the MODEL, and is supposed to reflect physical reality. My question was about the physical world -- what I was asking got was

Re: [Vo]:Joshua Cude at it

2011-05-26 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Cude>> I will assert that tools do not make a carpenter, and that my views boil down to an assertion that cold fusion researchers are bad carpenters. Rothwell> For this to be the case, they would all have to be incompetent. Every last of the

Re: [Vo]:My essay "Buying the E-cat in the sack?"

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
not a bad idea if the salts are sufficiently stable,some problems of safety both with nitrates and (!) cyanides/ Perhaps on internal circuit. well closed a amd an outer with water. The problem of contacting a very hot surface remains for molten salts too. Peter On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Ax

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: > Robin hits the nail on the head... Anything mathematical is the MODEL, and is supposed to reflect physical reality. My question was about the physical world -- what I was asking got was a rational, qualitative, cause and effect sort of expla

Re: [Vo]:My essay "Buying the E-cat in the sack?"

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
As in a solar thermal system, use molten salts such as sodium and potassium nitrate or a combination of the two. It is cheaper to have 1000 thin molten salts pipes and a high pressure heat exchange, then 1000 high pressure steam pipes. On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: >

Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?

2011-05-26 Thread Joshua Cude
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:35 PM, wrote: >>Maxwell's equations were developed to describe laboratory electricity and >magnetism experiments. >...from which the peculiar perpendicular nature of the phenomenon was already evident. Not really. Electric and magnetic fields in the laboratory do

Re: [Vo]:New Stremmenos Paper on JNP -- sustaining mode

2011-05-26 Thread Axil Axil
Stremmenos Paper does not take about 4H + Ni60, The paper takes about a single neutral hydrogen atom H + Ni58. Rossi says the same thing. we adopt the hypothesis of trapping a neutral temporary atom, or a mini atom, of hydrogen (with a diameter less than *10ˆ-14 m*) which transforms the *Ni**58*

Re: [Vo]:My essay "Buying the E-cat in the sack?"

2011-05-26 Thread Peter Gluck
Based on my experience with many thermal transfer agents for higher temperatures I think water remains the unique choice . Mercury as used in a process of converting cyclohexanol to cyclohexanone) is prohibitely expensive and very toxic- while organic agents as Diphyl (diphenil oxide plus diphenyl)