[Vo]:We have FPE cells

The cells we have obtained are electrochemical FPE cells. They are not commercial cells nor were they obtained from any of the sources in Jed's archives, nor current FPE device suppliers such as Leonardo, Defkalion, etc. We have made it openly known that we are in the market for FPE devices. We

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Not a Rossi or DGT device. But several working FPE cells. We will replicate and make several demo devices. AG On 12/25/2011 12:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: From Aussie: > Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? > I have just completed several inter

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he will under price his competitors and kill them off

So it seems. We live in interesting times. AG On 12/25/2011 12:23 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: So, he admits that DGT has the technology to make fusion too, heh. 2011/12/24 Aussie Guy E-Cat > will kill the Copy-Cats of the competitors. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

I have several operational FPE devices. Had you spent 25% of the time you spend on internet chat rooms trashing the FPE and instead actually engaged in talking to those who have replicated the FPE, you too would have working FPE devices. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. AG

[Vo]: patent 8028527; moist air into power and water.

Just wanted to make the Collective aware of this patent. This came from a friend, HF, who knows the patent's inventor closely. HF is a retired electrical engineer who worked for 20 years on unique, one-of-a-kind atmospheric instruments, and then for 10 years on pulsed power (Terawatts) equipment.

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

Yes, links. Mailers are supposed to preserve links inside the brackets. It's a little known fact, but hopefully all the writers of mail software remember it. On Dec 24, 2011, at 19:38, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:25 PM, David Roberson wrote: > I have no trouble with a

[Vo]:2012 Moronic Overunity Claims

To be, or not to be, that is the question: Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Fortune, Or to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, And by opposing end them: to die, to sleep No more; and by a sleep, to say we end The heart-ache, and the thousand Natural sho

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sun, 2011-12-25 at 11:26 +1030, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just > completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is > still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start > showing to

RE: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Hello again, Aussie, I just noticed in a previous post that you state that you will shortly have a "portable table top LENR demonstrator in operation". However, you also state in the same post that it will be more-or-less based on a setup high school kids did back in 2002/2003. This gives me th

RE: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

>From Aussie: > Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? > I have just completed several international visits. The FPE was > real in 1989. It is still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE > device which we will start showing to our clients and investors > in 2012.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he will under price his competitors and kill them off

So, he admits that DGT has the technology to make fusion too, heh. 2011/12/24 Aussie Guy E-Cat > will kill the Copy-Cats of the competitors. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling "Rossi said"

In reply to Charles Hope's message of Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:21:53 -0500: Hi, [snip] >The very first act I'd do is run my own home and office from the technology. >In winter the windows would be wide open to enjoy the fresh air as we roasted >in the balmy heat pouring from my heaters that were atta

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Please reread my email. > Or are you saying you MADE a device? Geez, man, be CLEAR! If you claim you made a device... did you get it tested independently and properly? What are it's specifications? Without those, you only join Rossi a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Please reread my email. > Why? If you have something to say, please say it PLAINLY. I can't decode what "international trip" is and what "we now have a... device" means. If you went to see Rossi or Defkalion and learned something or sa

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Please reread my email. AG On 12/25/2011 11:36 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat mailto:aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>> wrote: Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just completed several international visits. The FPE w

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just > completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is > still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start > showing to our

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start showing to our clients and investors in 2012. AG On 12/25/2011 11:05 AM, M

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:25 PM, David Roberson wrote: > I have no trouble with any other posts, only those 2. I have received > many links before with no issues. > > Dave > If you send me the bad links, either privately or on the list, I'll rewrite them as "tinuyurls". @Charles: You wrap wha

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Now back to roasting the chickens for Christmas lunch. They do smell > delicious. Next year they will be cooked with Ni-H power. Of that I'm 100% > certain. > ROTFWL! As usual, you're roasting your chickens before they're hatched! LOLOL

Re: [Vo]:New E-Cat on the way

Take your pick : 85137396 SMART ECAT 85412819 ECAT FOR DEMENTIA CARE 78210702 ECAT EMERGE 78210644 ECAT EXACT 77754383 HEARTRAK ECAT

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

You have won me and my board's support. We are working on investor and client support as Rossi knows. It will happen. Expect to shortly have a portable table top LENR demonstrator in operation. Based sort of on the setup the high school kids did back in 2002 / 2003. Now back to roasting the chi

Re: [Vo]:New E-Cat on the way

> 1- We registered” E-Cat, Energy Catalyzer, The New Fire” http://www.uspto.gov/index.jsp http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4010:eprt88.8.1 (Note ... I don't seem to be able to bookmark an entry, because TESS follows you in a session) Go to TESS / Basic Word Mark USPTO/Tess

Re: [Vo]:Rossi says he will under price his competitors and kill them off

Merry Christmas AG and to everyone else. Dave -Original Message- From: Aussie Guy E-Cat To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Dec 24, 2011 6:20 pm Subject: [Vo]:Rossi says he will under price his competitors and kill them off Rossi seems to be admitting Defkalion and / or others have products. H

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

I have no trouble with any other posts, only those 2. I have received many links before with no issues. Dave -Original Message- From: Charles Hope To: vortex-l Cc: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Dec 24, 2011 6:18 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith If you wrap t

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Jed why do you bother? MY has an agenda to discredit everything about LENR. > Discussion is futile. I agree it would be futile to try to persuade MY or Cude or the other extremists. I gave up trying to do that a decade ago. I say these things as way to sharpen my own th

[Vo]:Rossi says he will under price his competitors and kill them off

Rossi seems to be admitting Defkalion and / or others have products. He will sell E-Cats at a price that will kill them in the market: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563&cpage=7#comment-156211 2012 will be an interesting year. It is 10:15, 25 Dec 2011 in Australia. Time to sign o

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

If you wrap the link in , it should better survive travel. On Dec 24, 2011, at 12:21, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > Sometimes email clients are not kindly to links and interpret/parse them > badly! > > >

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

OK, I will wait further for the information. It is pretty important to me to determine if it is at all possible for enough energy to be stored and then released to achieve Rossi's results. A good model such as your friends would help immensely. You need to understand that it might become appa

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Jed why do you bother? MY has an agenda to discredit everything about LENR. Discussion is futile. AG On 12/25/2011 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Take it or leave it. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:35 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Mary, it is quite unfortunate that he does not want to share additional > information concerning his model. This is just the sort of model that is > needed to determine whether or not it is possible to replicate Rossi > results with heat

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

Mary, what is going on with your messages to this subject at times 12:13 and 12:21? I can not get them to load properly with my system. This was tried several times to no avail. Dave

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Mary Yugo wrote: > > I realize these developments bother the hell out of you >> > > It only bothers me as an example of the sort of flimsy nonsense people > make serious decisions on. > Yes, I realize that. I did not mean to imply that you or Park fear that cold fusion may be real. I am sure tha

[Vo]:New E-Cat on the way

It just gets better and better with Leonardo, NI and the 1st customer working together on delivering a new E-Cat: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516&cpage=15#comment-156194 * Neil Ferguson December 24th, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

Mary, it is quite unfortunate that he does not want to share additional information concerning his model. This is just the sort of model that is needed to determine whether or not it is possible to replicate Rossi results with heat storage. I am trying to keep an open mind as much as possible

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > "*Specific details are still in development*" says it all. > Yes. It probably says that NI, like U of Bologna, is still probably waiting to see the first of Rossi's cash.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > There are thousands of researchers and engineers in the world trying to > solve alternative energy challenges and National Instruments provides tools > to many of these scientists. One example is the Leonardo Corporation who > intends to us

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

"*Specific details are still in development*" says it all. AG On 12/25/2011 8:51 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Alan Fletcher mailto:a...@well.com>> wrote: See: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/11/11/national-instruments-and-cold-fusion/ Statement from John Pasquarette, Vice

Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling "Rossi said"

The very first act I'd do is run my own home and office from the technology. In winter the windows would be wide open to enjoy the fresh air as we roasted in the balmy heat pouring from my heaters that were attached to nothing. That's just me. On Dec 24, 2011, at 12:57, Mary Yugo wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Alan Fletcher wrote: > > See: > > http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2011/11/11/national-instruments-and-cold-fusion/ > > Statement from John Pasquarette, Vice President of Corporate Marketing and > eBusiness, National Instruments. > > - - - - - - > > That was the statement from NI denying the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

> I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business > magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for > Rossi... How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any other information you can provide? See: http://www.forbes.com/s

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > I realize these developments bother the hell out of you > It only bothers me as an example of the sort of flimsy nonsense people make serious decisions on. > You think these people are all idiots who have been hoaxed by Rossi > Some ce

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Craig Haynie wrote: > >> >> > I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business >> > magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for >> > Rossi... >> >> How do you know? Was it published online? If s

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Mary Yugo wrote: > > Quite a while ago, I bought a rather elaborate proportional temperature > controller for an experimental device under a military contract. It may > have been from NI or maybe from a similar company -- I don't recall. But > they never saw the device and had no interaction wi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > First in all of human history??? Did you forget about Fleischmann and Pons > in 1989 and all the operational LENR devices that have been built since > then? As for NI, they have said they are working with Rossi on the E-Cat > control syste

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM, David Roberson wrote: > It is certainly true that the peak occurs in a region that immediately > follows the highest temperature obtained within the heat storage medium. > The part that is anomalous is the fact that the bump I referred to at 16:00 > is of relative

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Craig Haynie wrote: > > > I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business > > magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for > > Rossi... > > How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any > other information you can provide? >

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

First in all of human history??? Did you forget about Fleischmann and Pons in 1989 and all the operational LENR devices that have been built since then? As for NI, they have said they are working with Rossi on the E-Cat control system. As for endorsement, Rossi has said all this work is under N

Re: [Vo]:P. K. Iyengar dies

So many CF ara passing away... I hope this AR saga at least brings in new people. 2011/12/24 Jed Rothwell > See: > > > http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_ex-atomic-energy-commission-chairman-pk-iyengar-passes-away_1628601 > > - Jed > > -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Rossi claims NI are working with Leonardo and the 1st US customer, at > their US install site on the 1 MW E-Cats control system. > Maybe someone can get a verification from NI? If it's true and there really is a cold fusion/LENR device i

Re: [Vo]:P. K. Iyengar dies

See: http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_ex-atomic-energy-commission-chairman-pk-iyengar-passes-away_1628601 - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Rossi claims NI are working with Leonardo and the 1st US customer, at their US install site on the 1 MW E-Cats control system. AG On 12/25/2011 6:46 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: That NI is making devices for Rossi means absolutely nothing confirmatory to Rossi claims. It does not mean NI has ever

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

If Sterling properly interpreted Rossi - i.e. - "According to Rossi, NI will be creating the controls to monitor and regulate this process. He said that their stipulation for the agreement is that all the instrumentation for the E-Cat plants have "by National Instruments" and logo on the instrume

Re: [Vo]:Merry Christmas!

No e-cats for you. Just a Hyperion. 2011/12/24 Mary Yugo > > > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I wish many e cats for everyone and 1 hyperion to Mary Yugo and Joshua >> Cude, each. >> > > > Merry Xmas all. > > I hope I get an E-cat. Meanwhile, I am not givin

Re: [Vo]:vortex-l archives are being monetized?

In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Fri, 23 Dec 2011 23:07:01 -0500: Hi, [snip] >On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Horace Heffner >wrote: >> The problem was due to a cached web page from Rossi's site. I deleted the >> browser cache on both systems and the ads went away. > >With Chrome, I turn

Re: [Vo]:Merry Christmas!

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Hi! > > I wish many e cats for everyone and 1 hyperion to Mary Yugo and Joshua > Cude, each. > Merry Xmas all. I hope I get an E-cat. Meanwhile, I am not giving up the conventional heater or tea kettle. I also hope I can find my pink fly

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: > Hello! > > On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 15:10 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business > > magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for > > Rossi... > > How do yo

Re: [Vo]:Merry Christmas!

Hi! I wish many e cats for everyone and 1 hyperion to Mary Yugo and Joshua Cude, each. 2011/12/24 Peter > Hi, > > Merry Christmas to All of You! > Wish that Santa Claus brings an E-Cat or some Excess Heat to all who had > this on their wishlist. > But not to forget, there are more important thi

[Vo]:Merry Christmas!

Hi, Merry Christmas to All of You! Wish that Santa Claus brings an E-Cat or some Excess Heat to all who had this on their wishlist. But not to forget, there are more important things to wish, and I wish this to everybody. Best, Peter

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Hello! On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 15:10 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business > magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for > Rossi... How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any other i

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > wrote: > > >> If Rossi is real, then I assume NI either possesses an e-cat, or has >> access to one or to his 1-MW plant. Does anyone know? >> > > I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business > magazine and confirm

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

wrote: > If Rossi is real, then I assume NI either possesses an e-cat, or has > access to one or to his 1-MW plant. Does anyone know? > I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for Rossi. So I think

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on 1 MW E-Cat energy density

Rossi's 10 kW heater, heating his factory? Really? http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

National Instruments has an automated software package -- "LabVIEW System Identification Toolkit" http://www.ni.com/pdf/labview/us/sys_id_toolkit.pdf -- which (I assume) can converge to an optimal control strategy for an unknown multi-input/multi-state system which may be non-linear, noisy and time

Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling \"Rossi said\"

Peter, I think by "moke up" he means "mock up", a nonfunctional model or program to help visualize an end item. Fran

Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling "Rossi said"

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > > Because of this madness of Rossi I lost 40 euros. We had a bet some > half year ago that by the end of the year, we have definitive and > unconditional proof for the technology. I lost my precious money, > because Rossi did not render mone

Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling "Rossi said"

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I believe "moke up" is supposed to be mock-up. I just told Andrea that. > Yes, as I noted, what "moke up" means is no mystery. So what does the remainder of the gobbledygook mean? Is Rossi writing about what he expects Defkalion to do? Wh

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

High Temperature superconductors have commercial application yet, people are not sure how they work exactly :). 2011/12/24 Jed Rothwell > Alain Sepeda wrote: > > just a correction. >> to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work. >> > > Yes. People were able to control c

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

Alain Sepeda wrote: just a correction. > to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work. > Yes. People were able to control complex systems such as forging iron and making wine for thousands of years without knowing how these things work. On the other hand, I read that in

Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling "Rossi said"

On 24 December 2011 19:35, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I believe "moke up" is supposed to be mock-up. But moke up is more cute word... Anyways this really shows Rossi's intent that he publicly does not give even a remote sense of trust but is trying actively to get people go away and leave him alone.

Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling "Rossi said"

I believe "moke up" is supposed to be mock-up. I just told Andrea that. - Jed

[Vo]:P. K. Iyengar dies

P. K. Iyengar died on December 21, 2011. As the head of BARC and later chairman of the Indian Atomic Energy Commission he was a major supporter of cold fusion research. You will find papers and articles about him at LENR-CANR.org - Jed

Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling "Rossi said"

First - Merry Christmas to you and to all colleagues on the Web now. The message of Andrea Rossi is clear; - if he shows us the heater used in his building, the competition will instal fake heaters and also show them as if they give heat. Hostile, deceiving imitation. Dictionary Rossi slang to E

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > "I do not understand Harry’s objection. The electric power considered in > the model is represented by the blue curve in the upper left diagram of > http://i.imgur.com/SWbvW.jpg jpeg. This curve shows the exact data of the > electrical power s

Re: [Vo]:Mathematical modeling versus a blacksmith

On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > > It is not sufficient evidence, but it still can be interpreted as > evidence of nuclear reactions. > Your alternative doesn't persuade me that the heat produced is > worthless as evidence. As everyone knows, there are countless ways to > fa

[Vo]:A new and baffling "Rossi said"

1. Italo A. Albanese December 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 PM Dear Andrea Rossi, could you provide some more information about the e-cat heating your factory? Power, cop, running time, temperatures? It would be intere

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

It is true that you do not need to know how the system works to stabilize it, although that would be helpful. All of the earlier tests, at least until the October 28, 2011 demonstration, were most likely run in open loop and that is why I suspect that Rossi used the self sustaining mode which

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

just a correction. to stabilize a system you don't necessarily need to know how it work. Good engineer (in france we call that domain "Automatique". It is the guys who can stabilize a building heating, a rocket, a servo, an hybrid car engine... an old branch of cybernetic) know how to extract key d

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on National Instruments

I agree. By then the necessary control algorithms and sensor choice / development will be completed and implemented. AG On 12/24/2011 4:01 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: It means don't be surprised if he is no longer working with them 6-12 months from now. harry On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Au