> To give another dramatic example, suppose at 1:00 pm on the afternoon of
> December 17, 1903, you were take a poll about whether man can fly.
***A better contract would be that an independent scientific journal (to
wit, eventually it was a beekeeping journal) would publish an article about
the Wr
The discussion is about the "value of prediction markets". It is not a bet
on human nature, because as you have saidm "It is reasonable to bet that
people will act in a sane way, because in most cases they do. Civilization
would not work otherwise." Human nature is not the variable in this bet.
T
Kevin O'Malley wrote:
> The fact that editors in the past had overcome their own internal
> objections on a few rare LENR developments in the past would indicate this
> was a rational bet, but not necessarily a guaranteed one.
>
Sure, I agree. It is reasonable to bet that people will act in a s
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
On the contrary, that outcome depends on the opinions of the journal
editors. Many fine experiments are not replicated because people will not
fund them, or they are not published because the editors are biased.
***Ok, that seems reasonable enou
Kevin O'Malley wrote:
> Sorry, but I still say this is a mechanism to measure people's opinions,
> or their feelings.
> ***No, it is NOT. When I put up the contract for whether or not Dr.
> Arata's experiment would be replicated in a peer reviewed journal, it had
> zero to do with people's opin
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
. .
Sorry, but I still say this is a mechanism to measure people's opinions, or
their feelings.
***No, it is NOT. When I put up the contract for whether or not Dr.
Arata's experiment would be replicated in a peer reviewed journal, it had
zero t
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
It would be nice to get some statistics out of that, any links?
>
Although this is a reasonable request, there are two difficulties in
addressing it. The first is that the experiments span a range of
qualit
The nitwits at Jumpline.com just now restored a copy of the website made
after the hacker messed things up. They did not look at the paperwork I
guess. They did not realize that a backup was restored on Sunday and the
problem was fixed. I hope they have the previous backup. Otherwise I shall
have t
Kevin O'Malley wrote:
>
> I think prediction markets actually CAN be useful to "confirm or deny
> assertions about scientific or engineering", . . .
>
Sorry, but I still say this is a mechanism to measure people's opinions, or
their feelings. Opinions and feelings have no bearing on experimental
Jed,
I think prediction markets actually CAN be useful to "confirm or deny
assertions about scientific or engineering", and my article about "How I
Made Money in Cold Fusion" is precisely aimed at that. If I had been given
the 2nd contract aimed at the replication of Dr. Mossier-Boss's triple
trac
Means testing is the camel's nose in the public sector rent-seeking tent.
However, what they are doing is completely understandable given that they
are trying to maintain public sector rent seeking in an economic
environment that would normally result in populist uprising kicking out all
immigrant
> From: mix...@bigpond.com
> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 3:19:12 PM
> >m = Q / ( c * dT) = 79.2 * 10^3 / ( 4.186 * 25 ) = 79200 / 104.65 =
> >756.8 kg/h = 12.6 kg/MINUTE <=== not seconds
> >
> >which is close to what I used.
>
> 756.8 kg/hr = 0.21 kg/sec (you forgot to divide by 60 to convert
CYPRUS: President announces “Guaranteed Minimum Income” program
http://binews.org/2013/08/cyprus-president-announces-%E2%80%9Cguaranteed-minimum-income%E2%80%9D-program
The president of Cyprus, Nicos Anastasiades, has announced the creation of
a “Guaranteed Minimum Income” for all citizens. The p
yes, and seeing the story of LENR compared to other extraordinary claims, I
think that the problem of LENr is that it requires much intelligence,
competence, trust in instruments, in computation, in good protocol, that it
is too easy for a lazy mind (like me sometime) to quickly conclude that it
is
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:32:46 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>> From: "David Roberson"
>> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:42:35 PM
>
>> Alan, I made a calculation of the output flow rate that came out much
>> higher than the value you have shown here. Is it possible for
> From: "David Roberson"
> Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:42:35 PM
> Alan, I made a calculation of the output flow rate that came out much
> higher than the value you have shown here. Is it possible for you to
> recheck your calculation? I will do the same.
Q = Total power = 22 kWh = 79.2 * 10^
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57583786/the-secret-to-long-life-bacon-says-105-year-old/
Pearl Cantrell, a centenarian from Abilene, Texas, attributes her
longevity to thin, fried strips of pork.
"I love bacon, I eat it everyday," Cantrell told KRBC.
The mother of seven just celebrated her
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Large crops, specially those with high protein content, like Soy, have
> tight pest control. That means, killing a lot of animals. Would they eat
> that?
>
Good point.
This problem will be eliminated with indoor food factories.
They just opened a food factory in Fukushima p
CYPRUS: President announces “Guaranteed Minimum Income” program
http://binews.org/2013/08/cyprus-president-announces-%E2%80%9Cguaranteed-minimum-income%E2%80%9D-program
The president of Cyprus, Nicos Anastasiades, has announced the creation of
a “Guaranteed Minimum Income” for all citizens. The
From: Jed Rothwell
blaze spinnaker wrote:
Second, cooked red meat is pretty bad for you..
I doubt that it is bad for you in moderation. People have been eating it for
hundreds of thousands of years.
There are past statistical studies, which are often warped by failing to
exclu
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell me if I'm spaming ...
>
Not in the slightest. You seem to know something about statistics. I hope
you will be very critical and complain about any mistaken reasoning you
see. There are many electrica
Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote:
> My take on this is that 'unusual method' depends a bit on the standard
> practices in a field of science. If for example it is "easy" to perform a
> test with good enough energy surplus, then we only need to supply the
> numbers like, take every 10th specimen in
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Alain Sepeda wrote:
>
> I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given
>> the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP.
>>
>
> I agree, but you do need a good calibration before and after the test. I
> suppose
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
> I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given
> the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP.
>
> Absolute measurement of heat, not even with blank, should be the only and
> best solution.
>
> no hysterical ske
Alain Sepeda wrote:
I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given
> the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP.
>
I agree, but you do need a good calibration before and after the test. I
suppose that amounts to the same thing as comparative calorimetry.
It is
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 10:41 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Yum
blaze spinnaker wrote:
Second, cooked red meat is pretty bad for you..
I doubt that it is bad for you in moderation. People have been eating it f
I think that comparative calorimetry is not accpetable, not needed, given
the hysteric level of skepticism and the high COP.
Absolute measurement of heat, not even with blank, should be the only and
best solution.
no hysterical skeptic will assume the blank is sincere, ...
even the absolute heat
blaze spinnaker wrote:
Second, cooked red meat is pretty bad for you..
>
I doubt that it is bad for you in moderation. People have been eating it
for hundreds of thousands of years. Before that we ate uncooked red meat
for millions of years, and wa-a-a-y before that we were insectivores.
People
Rice University physicists have gone to extremes to prove that Isaac
Newton’s classical laws of motion can apply in the atomic world:
They’ve built an accurate model of part of the solar system inside a
single atom of potassium.
In a new paper published this week in Physical Review Letters, Rice’s
Guys, I have a question that I would like for you to answer. You speak of a
balance between classical radiation and some zero point balancing act as the
reason that the electron remains in an orbit around the central proton in
hydrogen without radiation. In most, if not all of the systems that
Tell me if I'm spaming ...
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
> stefan.ita...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> But I would like to keep the discussion to the original FP experiment.
>>
>
> Ah, yes. Sounds good. It seems yo
Large crops, specially those with high protein content, like Soy, have
tight pest control. That means, killing a lot of animals. Would they eat
that?
The same is true, to a varied extent, to any kind of vegetables.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Very few Vegans would.
For one, once you go vegan, you lose your taste for meat. So not much
desire in the first place.
Second, cooked red meat is pretty bad for you..
Finally - Vegans dislike GMO vegetables. I'm sure they'd feel the same
way about this.
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Jed R
Would vagans eat sponges? They do not have nerve system.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Will vegans eat that meat?
>
They will have to decide.
I do not see why they wouldn't eat this. I see no moral issues or ambiguity
in it. I think the reason most people are vegans is to eliminate cruelty to
animals. This technique accomplishes that.
Some people are vegetari
Yet another Dutch food technology ;)
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Follow-up:
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23576143
>
> - Jed
Francis,
I basically agree. It also makes sense to me the time standard is an
atomic clock. My sense is that "time" in our dimensions is really just
the decay rate due to those particles popping in/out of the vacuum field,
triggering low level ionization and decay in our 3 dimensions. Rossi/DG
Follow-up:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23576143
- Jed
Will vegans eat that meat?
2013/8/5 Jed Rothwell
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
> Link does not work.
>>
>
> Try:
>
>
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lab-grown-burger-live-stream-worlds-2126851
>
> Oh brave new world!
>
> - Jed
>
>
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Link does not work.
>
Try:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lab-grown-burger-live-stream-worlds-2126851
Oh brave new world!
- Jed
Link does not work.
2013/8/5 Jones Beene
>
> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lab-grown-burger-live-stream-worlds-212
> 6851
>
> as predicted for the Brave New World ... using LENR power
>
> http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf
>
> ... please do not "supersize" my burger
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lab-grown-burger-live-stream-worlds-212
6851
as predicted for the Brave New World ... using LENR power
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf
... please do not "supersize" my burger :-)
<>
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote:
> it seems National instruments asked such doublinded test in 2012,
> according to the conference of Concezz in Rome (and Brussels)...
>
Do you have any better links, I find this test interesting a.t.m.
Of cause when the risk of fraud and ugly
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
Stewart wrote:
> Do you mean that somebody tried to steal the secrets of cold fusion? That
> would make a good movie...:)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120053
Actually it was pretty lame but I liked Shue.
Life imitates art:
http://www.nyteknik.s
You wrote:
> Do you mean your hosting service, or, ISP? Or, are they the same?
>
> Can you tell me the name of your service?
>
Jumpline.com
- Jed
Mark,
Just finished Puthoff’s 2012 paper and although I like his conclusion below I
still feel he is avoiding giving credit to the creation and annihilation of
pairs as powering all atomic and subatomic motion, he refers to a “balance”
between photon emission and ZP absorption but appears to b
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:11 AM, ChemE Stewart wrote:
> Jed,
>
> Do you mean that somebody tried to steal the secrets of cold fusion? That
> would make a good movie...:)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120053
Actually it was pretty lame but I liked Shue.
Jed,
Do you mean that somebody tried to steal the secrets of cold fusion? That
would make a good movie...:)
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
> Some idiot tried to hack LENR-CANR.org. When you accessed the indexes it
> displayed this message:
>
> HACKED_kutsaL'@'localhost' (
I think the rate of new demos and infrastructure will soon uncover the smoking
gun, The cork is off the bottle and the genie is already making its presence
known in more and more labs.. give it a few more months and a couple more
competitors to announce their claims.. it is the nature of competi
Check also that the PHP version installed is latest stable, else have the
hosting provider fix it!
mic
2013/8/4 Jed Rothwell
> Some idiot tried to hack LENR-CANR.org. When you accessed the indexes it
> displayed this message:
>
> HACKED_kutsaL'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
>
> This string
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