Re: [Vo]:Article about trip of andrea rossi to massachusetts from boston globe

2011-11-27 Thread Marcello Vitale
As I pointed out before "Tamarin said the meeting was mostly used to discuss the possibility of setting up manufacturing, rather than the validity of the science" A statehouse would be a funny place to talk about "the validity of the science" One goes there to talk about tax breaks. Moreover “Ro

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi refuse to answer about the publication of calorimetry test that will be done in Universities

2011-11-27 Thread Marcello Vitale
Useless. If negative, the Rossi camp could safely claim that the Bologna guys still did not know how to get the process started correctly - that does seem to be something touchy even for Rossi. And if positive, the anti-Rossi camp could safely claim (just as now) that at least someone in group runn

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Rossi, owner of the company through the EFA Ltd. has signed the €500,000 w/ Department of Physics Univ Bologna

2011-11-26 Thread Marcello Vitale
Sorry, the article does not yet say that the money has been paid. The contract is still the same we know about. On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Ahsoka Tano wrote: > ** > According to this Italian article, the deed is done. Isn't this proof > that there was a buyer of the mega-eCat and that Ros

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-26 Thread Marcello Vitale
ant plasmon. On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 25.11.2011 13:54, schrieb Marcello Vitale: > > Very interesting, indeed. Thank you, Peter. Four observations > > a) MgH2 is more stable than NiHn: Mg might simply suck up the hydrogen > b) nonetheless, it is

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-25 Thread Marcello Vitale
Rich, JC does say a lot of things about Oct. 28, mostly having to climb mirrors because, really, he does not seem to have ever so much as boiled water in a pot, and the data from Oct. 28 are particularly few. Regardless, he has only the "secret investors bound to tight secrecy contracts" as hypothe

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread Marcello Vitale
e. > Why dont they get fusion? > Put Rossis catalyst into this container, and it should explode, or kill > anybody around by radiation ;-) > > You will find hundreds of research projects. Metalhydrides are very > important in combustion cells and accus also and are heavily researched &

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
MY says there is no client. Let me explore the logical consequences of this revelation. Because it's a fact. MY said it, and it fits Occam's razor, which says (I am sure I don't need to remind you) that "whatever MY points to as the simplest theory, is indeed true". Therefore, October 28 was all a

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
Happy T-day to the US folk. Don't overdo it :-))) On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:54 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > > Jed sez: > > > > > If Rossi does not want MIT to test his reactors, > > > he should never have met > > > with state officials. It was an emba

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
Jed said ".But he was meeting with an elected official from the state of Massachusetts. A couple of miles away from the most prestigious university of technology in the world, run by the state." Uh, Jed, MIT is private. Or maybe you meant UMass? On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Jed Rothwe

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Overview of (Ahern) Vibronic Energy Technologies Approach

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
Jed would say to this that there was no money involved in denying any of the phenomena brought as example. And he would be right, of course. It must also be pointed out that superconductivity, and the color of Au, and the color of silver nanoparticles depend on quantum mechanical effects whose app

Re: [Vo]:Focardi reveal Iron is also involved

2011-11-24 Thread Marcello Vitale
No, Ag, Focardi just said that the Earth nucleaus is composed of Ni and Fe, therefore Ni is one of the most abundant elements and will be available "forever". On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**feature=player_embedded&v=** > 2cOEHQmnG-I#t=1

Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston

2011-11-23 Thread Marcello Vitale
I agree with Terry on this. I see no other way for Rossi to make money than to try to sell as many big items as he can before somebody much better than him at manufacturing comes into the game. Anything else is a distraction. I'll add that corporations go to statehouses to ask for tax breaks :-)))

Re: [Vo]:A U.S.P.O. policy regarding cold fusion

2011-11-23 Thread Marcello Vitale
But nobody on this list uses one's real identity! Jed Rothwell is actually Wang Li, from Xiamen City, and he works for the chinese government, trying to keep the West from pursuing useful research. Aussie Guy is an old engineer from Pittsburgh, he went on vacation to Australia a few years back and

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's interview with "Tom and Doug"

2011-11-22 Thread Marcello Vitale
I currently have a broken meniscus in one knee. It hurts. I still have to touch it and think about it before being able to say whether it's the left or the right knee. And that's without the obvious language change problem which is clearly impacting how Rossi expresses himself

Re: [Vo]:Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price

2011-11-22 Thread Marcello Vitale
Great! Excuse me, Aussie, how did you place such order? Did you write to the usual i...@leonardocorp1996.com, did you write as a comment JONP or how? Thanks On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Just placed my order for 10 x 10 kW plants. Will install them, at no cost > in

Re: [Vo]:A person claim successful replication of e-cat

2011-11-21 Thread Marcello Vitale
The word "scam" implies that somebody got cheated: it requires a perpetrator and at least one victim. Money or some other good must be exchanged fraudulently. If Chan is knowingly making something look like something else, as with various feats of bravery videos on youtube, it would be called an "

Re: [Vo]:Re: So Rossi has a real Ph.D. obtained in 1975

2011-11-21 Thread Marcello Vitale
Yup, a Master. In philosphy, it required an "experimental" thesis, that is an original work, but not of the quality required for a PhD. In Italy, one is called "Dottore" with that degree. Indeed, it used to be the highest degree until 1986, if I remember correctly the year. On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at

Re: [Vo]:Petroldragon and Leonardo Technologies, Inc.

2011-11-21 Thread Marcello Vitale
OK, I have to repeat myself: Rossi was found wholly not guilty (no crime was committed, is the sentence) by not one but three courts in Italy for trafficking in toxic waste, with the last sentence in November 2004. The more I look into it, the more it seems that somebody with good connections had i

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat guy: Hire a local HVAC engineering company!

2011-11-20 Thread Marcello Vitale
e isn't an ordinary > boiler for goodness' sake! It's a flippin' NUCLEAR FUSION REACTOR with > claims of awesome power capabilities. I wouldn't let an HVAC engineer near > it. > > > > Really? What better way to apply best practices in standard, practica

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

2011-11-18 Thread Marcello Vitale
note that none of the examples you gave include secrecy, and most involved "retail sale" to small guys, not well lawyered up. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Marcello Vitale wrote: > > However, it does not fit the available

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

2011-11-18 Thread Marcello Vitale
etly > accepting cash from credulous investors who sign iron clad nondisclosure > secrecy agreements -- hence, no evidence for skeptics to cite... > > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:31 AM, Marcello Vitale wrote: > > now, now, Rich, don't be silly. Just because Mary is obvio

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

2011-11-18 Thread Marcello Vitale
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:46 AM, David Roberson wrote: > >> You really know how to cause injury to someone. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Marcello Vitale >> To: vortex-l >> Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 1:55 am >> Subject: R

[Vo]:another Focardi brief interview

2011-11-18 Thread Marcello Vitale
http://www.greenme.it/approfondire/interviste/6255-fusione-fredda-e-cat-intervista-focardi in writing, as one can understand from one of the answers More evidence of a big scam, HUGE! :-

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: Only two theories left. The big conspiracy theory and the true energy production theory.

2011-11-17 Thread Marcello Vitale
Rich, are you talking about Mary and those who, like her, keep saying they KNOW what is going on despite lacking all knowledge, experience, understanding, skill, intuition...? :- On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > "We may have a situation of one scammer and a lot of p

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

2011-11-17 Thread Marcello Vitale
All I can say is that you have an uncanny ability to always find a way to twist anything in a negative direction. A sitcom mother-in-law :- On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Marcello Vitale wrote: > >> Having age

Re: [Vo]:Rossi feeding skeptics with much more skepticism.

2011-11-17 Thread Marcello Vitale
nity and only measures > overunity when they include the heat losses. > > It would not seem a wise choice by Rossi to be affiliated with what is > basically a *perpetual motion machine* manufacturer - that doesn't > actually have a self-runner to display and does not appear to h

Re: [Vo]:When faced with reality

2011-11-16 Thread Marcello Vitale
There is the only problem with the investment story that it does not appear to be true. The only source of money Krivit cites is Ampenergo, that is Rossi himself. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Marcello Vitale wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:When faced with reality

2011-11-16 Thread Marcello Vitale
that the Wright Brothers had successfully flown an > aircraft under their own > power." > > Regards > Steven Vincent Johnson > www.OrionWorks.com > www.zazzle.com/orionworks > > -- Marcello Vitale via Cavallotti 5, 20093 Cologno Monzese, MI, ITALY phone: +

Re: [Vo]:Rossis Catalyst = RF+DC?

2011-11-16 Thread Marcello Vitale
As far as the simplicity of Ni-H or similar: anything is obvious when it becomes obvious. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Joshua Cude wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Marcello Vitale wrote: > >> I remember a graduate student in a group in which I was a postdoc, crying

Re: [Vo]:When faced with reality

2011-11-15 Thread Marcello Vitale
a dozen of them this year, with invited press and scientists. But he has > not catapulted to fame, and skeptics have not capitulated. > > Instead of setting up a demo like that of the Wright brothers in France > (which might involve heating an olympic pool without any input power, or >

Re: [Vo]:Rossis Catalyst = RF+DC?

2011-11-15 Thread Marcello Vitale
quantification of a known phenomenon (to be published at most in a small journal). But it was going to be tossed out as crap. Marcello Vitale via Cavallotti 5, 20093 Cologno Monzese, MI, ITALY phone: +39 338 484 9724 skype: marcello_vitale_UK email: mvit...@ucsbalum.net

[Vo]:Fwd: Rossi business strategy

2011-11-14 Thread Marcello Vitale
I would like to make some hypothesis about the business strategy Rossi might be pursuing. This is an interesting question regardless of whether the technology he presents is True or False, whether it works or it doesn’t, that is regardless of whether he is truthful or a scammer. In short, I’d like