I would love a copy of that doc... please do send one my way.
i also made a calculation based on that line from the KE report
- surprisingly i got zero comments - although i consider it a very relevant
issue... 25 atm at startup is much more at 500C... i would love it if
someone could double
I question the amount of nickel used. The one liter (1000 cc) Cat-E used 100
grams of catalyst. By proportion, a 50 cc volume should use only 5 grams of
catalyst. The density of the catalyst is too high. It should be about 3g/cc
since it is porous.
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:33 AM, .:.gotjosh
Axil,
I agree about 5g in proportion, but the KE report says:
The central container seen in figure 3 has an estimated volume of 50 cm3
and it contains 50 grams of nickel.
I also thought about the powder density/porosity and chose a number close to
the full density of nickel metal, as i imagined
In reply to .:.gotjosh's message of Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:33:49 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
I suspect that Hydrogen wouldn't be absorbed by the Ni fast enough for it to
become saturated when the Hydrogen is initially connected, so one might expect
the Hydrogen pressure in the container to actually drop
Re: estimated volume
Catalyst volume is important stuff. How true is it? Who made the estimate?
Any idea?
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:35 PM, .:.gotjosh ene...@begreen.nu wrote:
Axil,
I agree about 5g in proportion, but the KE report says:
The central container seen in figure 3 has an estimated
Below is the latest version. Not many changes. The original is in .docx
format. If anyone wants a copy let me know.
The purpose of this is to have a handy cheat-sheet look up what Rossi and
others have said so far. I am not trying to make sense of these claims,
judge how likely they are to be
_
From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 2:24 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi Device new version 4/19/2011
Below is the latest version. Not many changes. The original is in .docx format.
If anyone wants a
copy let me know
Huh. It does not seem there is much more we can say about this other than
what I wrote:
The device produces 100 keV and 300 keV particles. (Rossi? – Iverson
reports)
We can change the citation to (Rossi, NyTeknik, 3/18/2011)
What does anyone think this means:
Rossi: No radioactivity has been
At 02:24 PM 4/19/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Below is the latest version. Not
many changes. The original is in .docx format. If anyone wants a copy let
me know.
H gas pressure in the cell
is 25 bar (~360 psi) (Rossi? Blanton)
That's from the KE report :
Startup. Prior to
startup, the hydrogen
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
That's from the KE report :
Thanks.
- Jed
On 2011-04-15 23:46, Jed Rothwell wrote:
[...]
You could also add this important piece of information:
* * *
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=16#comment-0
Is it in general possible to regulate the power output of the E-cat in a
continous way and if yes in what limits
SHIRAKAWA Akira shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it in general possible to regulate the power output of the E-cat in a
continous way and if yes in what limits about? Is it done by regulating the
H2 – pressure or can it be achieved by adjusting the preheating input?
April 16th, 2011 at
Hi,
Don't know if you all have handy tools for conversion at hand, but I
personally like this one a lot (use it since several years).
http://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/
Kind regards,
MoB
On 16-4-2011 2:47, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
snipLook carefully at what Rossi says. In one response to a question, he
uses the word 'catalysts'. Plural! Nickel, rust and copper?snip
Let us get into the details on this point as follows:
Under the assumption that the nuclear active area in the Rossi process is
within large numbers
Let us get into the details on this point as follows:
Under the assumption that the nuclear active area in the Rossi process is
within large numbers of nanoscopic crystal defects in Rust and NiO is
somehow the controlling mechanism, what can that mechanism be?
The nuclear heat comes from
I do not understand this one. Can anybody help?
Thomas Blakeslee http://www.clrlight.org/
April 14th, 2011 at 7:03
PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=473cpage=3#comment-33059
I’m confused about the caption on the closeup picture on the NyTeknik
article on the 4.5 KW demo. It says
NOTES ON ROSSI DEVICE
[This was previously titled What Rossi Says list)
This list is not comprehensive. These are items I thought are significant.
Sources are sometimes shown in parentheses after the item. SL = Shirakawa
List, Focardi = Focardi radio interview, April 5, 2011
Some items are
On 2011-04-15 23:46, Jed Rothwell wrote:
NOTES ON ROSSI DEVICE
[...]
Good job!
I'll try collecting other questions/answers from various posts in
Rossi's blog. I'll post them in this thread unsorted.
By the way, I think the question/answer date is important and should not
be taken out of
The proper way to organize this type of data is through the use of a
relational database. That is how systems engineers do it. The primary key
would be the time of origination. The secondary keys could be calorimetry,
nano-particle, ash product, isotopic ratio…
MS access would be the simplest.
On 2011-04-15 23:46, Jed Rothwell wrote:
The 1 MW (thermal) device will be made of many smaller ones ganged
together. It was originally planned to be made up of ~130 10 kW units,
where 30 were held in standby to replace or augment older ones as the
power decreased. They now plan to use ~300
On 2011-04-15 23:46, Jed Rothwell wrote:
The effect can be quenched with the following methods:
[...]
Inject N to displace the H.
Recently he added:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=64
* * *
2. I’ve read that you once had to stop the machine by insufflating
nitrogen and that
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The proper way to organize this type of data is through the use of a
relational database. That is how systems engineers do it.
Great idea! Are you going to do that for us? Thanks!
Add to the list:
DEVICE CHARACTERISTICS
The control box contains 5 simple
Rossi wrote:
2-I never insufflated Nytrogen. That info was wrong. If there is a black
out, the E-Cat automatically stops, for lack of current: it
is intrinsically safe
Okay. I think I should just delete the statement about N:
Inject N to displace the H.
This was either a misunderstanding
On 2011-04-16 00:37, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This was either a misunderstanding or he has retracted it. It is not
important. The purpose of the list is to present an up-to-date
description of what Rossi now thinks, not to hold him to previous
statements or find out how often he has changed his
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Rossi wrote:
2-I never insufflated Nytrogen. That info was wrong. If there is a black
out, the E-Cat automatically stops, for lack of current: it
is intrinsically safe
Okay. I think I should just delete the
Yes. Do not delete this ! It is important.
Add this one to the growing 'contradictions' list, because I am sure that at
one time he said he can operate the device for a period of time with no
electrical input.
How can it then be possible to shut down automatically with no current
unless you
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Surely he is not so careless (miserly) as to fill this tank with
H2 to cut cost ?
Not likely. I think his H2 (large) tank is shown in Fig. 10 here:
Between then and now, Rossi may have come up with a way to make his
catalyst(s) sub-critical, that is, always requiring some external heat to be
input as a control on the output heat production.
Provarication may not be an issue here.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Jones Beene
On 2011-04-16 01:36, Jones Beene wrote:
Yes. Do not delete this ! It is important.
Add this one to the growing 'contradictions' list, because I am sure that at
one time he said he can operate the device for a period of time with no
electrical input.
How can it then be possible to shut down
Jed:
You forgot to mention Rossi's quote about seeing 100keV to 300keV particles...
I think that's a
reasonably important piece of data!
I've posted it twice; not going to do it again just look for postings in
the last 3 to 7 days
with 300 keV at the end of the subject line.
-Mark
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:51 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
By shutting down hydrogen supply, as Focardi said in his latest interview.
After hydrogen pressure decreases by a certain amount the reactor supposedly
stops working by itself.
If the system is in a runaway
Shutting down H2 supply cannot work, since the gas in the reactor is highly
pressurized and consumed slowly, so the reaction would not be abated on H2
shut-down - in fact not for an extended period - possibly hours or days.
Do you release pressurized and very hot hydrogen into a room where many
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay. I think I should just delete the statement about N:
Why? That ain't no H2 tank in the Jan demo image.
Who knows what it's doing there. Maybe they use it to purge the cell or
clean out the tubes.
The thing is, he says that was a
Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
You forgot to mention Rossi's quote about seeing 100keV to 300keV
particles... I think that's a reasonably important piece of data!
Okay. Not sure where to put it. We may need more better categories.
I guess that would come under DEVICE
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
If the system is in a runaway condition, I'm sure there is enough H2
in the reactor to take it to meltdown. Look at the configuration, the
H2 is injected into the reactor at 300 psi and likely shut off.
Simply
Piantelii said that he used N to stop a run away meltdown before he found
that D2 would stop the reaction on HIS system.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Okay. I think I should just delete the statement about
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Do you release pressurized and very hot hydrogen into a room where many
people may be gathered? Answer: No. it would be instantly explosive.
There is only a tiny bit. Pressure is low. What is the pressure, by the way?
To scram a real, commercial device
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Piantelii said that he used N to stop a run away meltdown before he found
that D2 would stop the reaction on HIS system.
Wouldn't it be ironic if they end up using D2 to scram the reactors?
- Jed
This is a ridiculous voice input error:
The resistance heaters are high-powered trigger the reaction and then hours
reduced to maintain it.
I guess it was supposed to be:
The resistance heaters are used at high power to trigger the reaction, then
power is reduced to maintain the reaction. In
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the pressure, by the way?
I think he said 25 bar which would be about 360 psi.
T
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the pressure, by the way?
I think he said 25 bar which would be about 360 psi.
Ah. 24 atm. I thought it was low, like 4 atm. I guess it would make quite a
bang if they exhausted it into the room and it ignited.
(Why are there so many ways to
: RE: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device
Yes. Do not delete this ! It is important.
Add this one to the growing 'contradictions' list, because I am sure that at
one time he said he can operate the device for a period of time with no
electrical input.
How can it then be possible to shut down
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
(Why are there so many ways to measure pressure?)
Because all people are under it? :-)
T
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 8:32:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device
This is a ridiculous voice input error:
The resistance heaters are high-powered trigger the reaction and then hours
reduced to maintain it.
I
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