[Vo]:Factory heater at EON

Daniel Rocha wrote: Did he ever say "entire" factory or just heat a factory? :) Or was only his room? Seeing his old tests to McKubre, it should be something below <400W, if that was the state of the art back then. The heater in the factory produced 5 to 8 kW thermal. It is a small factory.

[Vo]:Piantelli's amazing claims

This has been discussed elsewhere, but a lot is happening and the threads here are tangled up with [Vo]:Re:[Vo] problem, so I thought I would reiterated it. Piantelli has been making some amazing claims lately. See: http://ecatnews.com/?p=581 Original source in Italian: http://www.energeticambie

[Vo]:Toyota announces plug-in hybrid sales

See (in Japanese): http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/atmoney/news/2029-OYT1T00943.htm Summary: Sales will begin January 30, 2012. Minimum sales price will be ¥3,200,000 ($41,000). after government rebates it comes to ¥2,750,000. it takes roughly 3 hours to recharge. The range on batteries alone is 26

Re: [Vo]:Rossi opens 10 KW expression of interest list and sets 10 kW price

Rossi wrote: > Unit to conform to all USA, State and Local regulations > Unit to conform to USA domestic insurance regulations (Tower Insurance) > I do not think it will be possible to meet these two conditions in 2012 or 2013 either. The insurance regulators have never heard of this device. The

Re: [Vo]:Factory heater at EON

Daniel Rocha wrote: Are you sure of that? Pretty sure. Reliable sources say so. Sorry to sound like a Magic 8-Ball. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Toyota announces plug-in hybrid sales

mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Efficiency is 60.1 km per liter (141 mpg), compared to an ordinary Prius which gets 32.6 km per liter (77 mpg). (Those efficiency ratings sound too high to me.) They are probably based on the notion that a larger percentage of driving will be pure electric, thus decreas

[Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

I think it is likely that the intellectual property rights for cold fusion will soon result in a gigantic legal brawl with countless lawsuits. I suppose that powerful interests may line up behind Piantelli to sue Rossi, and vice versa, with everyone suing Defkalion. A lawsuit frenzy should not hold

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

Here are some notes on the outcome. I though Uncle Sam purchased the patents, as originally planned. Not so, according to: "The American aviation experience: a history" By Tim Brady There was a tangle of 130 patents, all essential to aviation. On July 24, 1917 Congress appropriated $640 million f

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

Craig Haynie wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:01 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > > Someone here suggested that the best solution to this problem would be > > for governments to throw a large pile of money that everyone involved > > in the initial development of cold fusio

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

Robert Leguillon wrote: Due to the international nature of these patents, what do you predict today? > I know little about patents. My only prediction is that the people who deserve a patent for the basic invention of cold fusion will not get one. Cold fusion is essentially in the public domain.

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

Terry Blanton wrote: > Where is Stanley Pons? > He is living quietly in France. I have not heard from him in years. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

Craig Haynie wrote: But you're not proposing a solution within a moral framework. You're > advocating that people take money from those who may not want to give > it . . . In that case it should come from a temporary tax on the sale of cold fusion devices. A royalty, in other words. Taxation

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Prepares

Terry Blanton wrote: A new discussion section just appeared on the Defkalion forum: > > "Discussion on Hyperion Specs > (Unlocked following Spec release on November 30th 2011)" > > Let the fun begin! > Ah. I get it. You refer to this: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=17 It

[Vo]:Test / robot panic

This is only a test. But as long as I am writing it, here are some great pictures of robots gone wild from the 1930s: http://www.slate.com/slideshows/technology/the-robot-panic-of-the-great-depression.html

[Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

noone noone wrote: I don't agree with the government using tax dollars to pay cold fusion > inventors. > > In my opinion, the government needs to be forced (peacefully) to grant > Rossi's patent. > As I said, having the government grant a patent is functionally equivalent to using a tax surchar

[Vo]:Makup of Ni powder in Hyperion

The Hyperion Data Sheet, p. 6 says "row material" which I assume is a typo for "raw material" and I assume it is talking about the powder. Anyway, it says: Sub Sieve Particle Size: 3-7 microns Bulk density: 1,8-2,7gr/cm3 Typical surface area Chemical composition (Wt%): 0,4m2/gr (BET) Preparation

Re: [Vo]:Australian Fusion - 10MW out, 40W in. ??

This claims is for "a working 1MW fusion reactor the size of a rice cooker." That would be a bomb, not a reactor. Perhaps someone got the units of measure mixed up. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Makup of Ni powder in Hyperion

Robert Lynn wrote: And importantly: "proprietary catalysts involved in reaction chamber" Oh yeah. Not sure what that means. I guess it means the raw material is mostly Ni and they add proprietary catalysts -- whatever that means. In other words, this does not tell us anything. Well, at least w

Re: [Vo]:Test / robot panic

Slate.com has now added text to the slides. They forgot to originally. It is an interesting discussion of the fear that automation will reduce employment. The comic strip at the end is good. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

Alan J Fletcher wrote: A long time ago Rossi said that an eCat's output could be continuously variable between 0% and 100%. He hasn't said that recently. Defkalion/Hyperion also says it's bang-bang (on/off) .. "In general, the mean time to put a Hyperion from 0 to 100% of its capacity is

Re: [Vo]:Australian Fusion - 10MW out, 40W in. ??

Robert Lynn wrote: Also space shuttle main engine combustion chamber releases 9 GW from a rice-cookerish 10 litres of volume, not a bomb, but definitely vigorous. The Shuttle engine was as close to a bomb as you can get without being a bomb. I mean it was the most heat and energy possible in

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

Alan J Fletcher wrote: You do not have to worry about wasting heat. It costs nothing. On the other hand it would be annoying to have to leave the cooling fans on. It would be noisy and it would cause wear and tear. At COP=6 I think you DO have to worry. COP=20, no. I am sure the COP can be

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

I wrote: > Swartz talked about optimizing output . . . . > I refer to Swartz's papers on Optimal Operating Points (OOP). I do not mean that optimization or a high COP is unimportant. I meant that most researchers considered Swarz's approach premature. They figured that problem will take care of

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

David Roberson wrote: > It would be nice to become free of the electric power company, but I am > afraid that the word soon is relative. If you mean 25 years as soon, maybe > so. > Yes, 25 years is what I had in mind. > What are we to do with all that copper strung across the country? >

[Vo]:Energy overhead for conventional generators versus Hyperion

Regarding this issue of overhead or COP, see my book, chapter 14, Diagram 14.1. This is from the annual energy review 2002 edition, EIA. The title is "Electricity flow, 2002." It is probably online somewhere. . . Here is a recent version: http://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/diagram5.cfm An

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

Since the subject of electric power generation and power companies has come up, let me get back to this analysis. I quibble with it, for the reasons I just mentioned in chapter 14 of my book. My conclusion is that if you are going to set up a cold fusion reactor to generate power to be resold to a

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

I wrote: > Soon there will be no such thing as AC, and no power company. I meant there will be no external power sources outside the building (no power company or distribution network), and I also meant that all power will be DC, not AC, to reduce the danger of electrocution. When I say "soon"

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

Terry Blanton wrote: > > > I do not know what the cost of a 250 kW generator is. > > About $40,000 plus installation for diesel. > Do you mean just the generator portion? Minus the diesel engine? Of course they do not usually sell just the generator portion alone, but perhaps you mean a replace

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

rstand. > My theory for what it's worth: > . . . > - Absent the core modules, they used an electrical heater to simulate the > core in the test prototypes > That is imaginative but it is not what they say. > Jed Rothwell was planning to make or assist with such visits?

Re: [Vo]:Energy overhead for conventional generators versus Hyperion

Horace Heffner wrote: > Heat can also be used directly for air conditioning and refrigeration. > Yup. I discussed that briefly in chapter 15. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: In the interim, prior to 25 - 30 years, it seems to me that there is a > good chance we might see distributed AC spread across the landscape as > small substations spring up at local "filling" stations - which use to . . > > I'm thinking of something similar

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

Mary Yugo wrote: > You don't know or you can't say? > I do not know. If I could not say, I would not say, or I would say I cannot say. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

Terry Blanton wrote: About $40,000 plus installation for diesel. Complete. Even includes a fuel tank. http://www.affordablegenerator.com/250_kW_60Hz_Generator_with_Cummins_Engine_p/250kw%20cummins.htm Wow! That is cheap. I had no idea they were so cheap. I wonder what a 250 kW steam turbin

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > > A 15% shift off grid would reduce the grid owners income enough to stop > grid maintenance and then the 85% on grid would have no power. I do agree > that with LENR home reactors we may not need the grid but moving from where > we are today to that situation will be ve

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: As one who works in this field, the transition will not be easy or nice. > Large amounts of pain will occur if the grid fails to deliver reliable > electricity. This is not buggy whips or telephone exchanges. I think a better comparison in the U.S. would be to the railro

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

I wrote: The biggest problem this caused was the pension funds for retired workers. > Congress passed a law funding them, in a one-time adjustment. > I meant the pensions being paid out to people already retired in 1932. Not the funds then being put aside by workers still employed. This is the "

Re: [Vo]:Catalyst could be radioactive

Jones Beene wrote: > BTW - Radon/radium was once considered healthy. Radium spas and hot springs > were popular - and exposure was said to cure cancer instead of cause it. They still are in Japan. Prof. Ikegami once brought me to one. He said a small exposure is good for you. He also said they

[Vo]:Defkalion: 15 g of Ni per chamber

See: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=604 QUOTE The most serious reason for a 6-12 months recharge of Hydrogen and Ni is not their consumption (or if you like the transmutation of Ni) but pure engineering reasons. Hyperions are quite new, so we will need to run diagnost

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

Harry Veeder wrote: Any thoughts how CF technology might affect city sewer services? > This is already being tried, but CF technology should make it even > more cost effective if excrement is processed close to its source rather than conveyed through a vast system of underground pipes to a > cen

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

Mary Yugo wrote: > Jed can tell us for himself but if I recall, his inquiry was for others > who had pretty well lined pockets. > Credibility galore. That's what they said they wanted. I have no idea why they have delayed, or why they are keeping such a low profile. I suppose they have their re

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: First point: Without mains electricity there is no sewage or water supply > system. With-in days most high rise building would not be fit to inhabit as > the toilets would no longer flush and there would be no running water. Well of course. We all know that. What is your

Re: [Vo]:eCat/Hyperion output level control

I found a really dumb comment by Joshua Cude in the trash: > I am sure the COP can be set anywhere you like. It is just a matter of >> engineering. [...] >> > > >> It is not an issue. It never has been. Since 1990 I think it has been >> clear that cold fusion can have any ratio you like, once yo

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi responds to Defkalion Hyperion technical spec release

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: I'm confused. Megawatt nuclear fusion plants are certified (or don't need certification)? Small ones are for home use, big ones are for big crazy companies that will take the risk of buying them. All equipment requires certification, whether it is used in houses

Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi responds to Defkalion Hyperion technical spec release

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-**physics.com/?p=510&cpage=36#**comment-135422 This says: Andrea Rossi December 1st, 2011 at 12:44 AM WARNING: SOMEBODY IS ON THE ROAD SAYING THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED IN

[Vo]:Which is more dangerous, AC or DC?

Alain dit le Cycliste wrote: just note that DC is much more dangerous than AC. > 50V DC can kill you more surely than 220V AC... with DC you don't have a > chance to escape the muscle locking... > (I've learned that in electrotechnics courses, when I was young) > I have always heard that AC is

[Vo]:Taxpayers will not subsidize an abandoned infrastructure for long

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: My point was we need a reliable grid for a very long time and that any > wholesale removal of grid load will destroy the companies that maintain the > grid and generate the energy that 30,000,000 Australian connection points > need virtually 24/7. . . . I agree we will n

[Vo]:Lewan: "Defkalion shows specs but no technology"

Latest from Lewan: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3358483.ece This may have been referenced here before. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Padua University not Siena made the analysis

Akira Shirakawa wrote: > And Prof. Piantelli is not involved in any way. >> > > Prof. Stremmenos too stresses (again) that he is absolutely not involved > in this, and hasn't been for quite some time: > > http://www.nyteknik.se/**incoming/article3358406.ece/** > BINARY/Letter+from+Stremmenos+**N

Re: [Vo]:Lewan: "Defkalion shows specs but no technology"

Daniel Rocha wrote: So Lewan is Defkalion's Krivit. To give credit where it is due, Lewan also roundly criticized Rossi. So did I, and I linked to Lewan's article: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm (See second item down: "Rossi device again demonstrated in self-sustaining mode. Large reactor demo

Re: [Vo]:Padua University not Siena made the analysis

Jones Beene wrote: The lies and double-talk, from both DGT and Rossi are too bizarre for words. > I cannot tell which side is lying, but I agree the double-talk is bizarre. It sure is! And as I said, the fact that Defkalion has allowed this dispute to fester for months, when they claimed they co

[Vo]:Defkalion's changing stance on whether this is cold fusion

This is a minor issue compared to the rest of the brouhaha, but I note that Defkalion appears to be changing their tune regarding whether this is cold fusion or something else. In their white paper released in June, they said: "The field of energy research known as 'cold fusion' has positive and n

[Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines

Someone at the Defkalion brought this up. It looks promising. See: http://www.cyclonepower.com http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=548 - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines

Here is another from the forum discussion: http://quasiturbine.promci.qc.ca/ There are companies in the U.S. trying to develop small-scale natural gas turbines, such as Capstone. Internal combustion turbines, that is. We need something like an external combustion low temperature small-scale s

Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines

Alan Fletcher wrote: That burns (various) fuel ... making 1200F steam in the coils. No good > for ecats/Hypes. > 650°C. Not too far off. Maybe it would work with lower temperature steam. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion's changing stance on whether this is cold fusion

Craig Haynie wrote: > > Whenever I've read of people studying this effect who've disavowed 'cold > fusion', it wasn't that they were disavowing a nuclear reaction . . . In this case they have disavowed any connection to other research: "The science behind the products of Defkalion is not relate

[Vo]:I urge Defkalion to allow a third-party test

This is an exercise in futility but I copied part of a message I posted here to the Defkalion forum: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4232#p4232 Defkalion GT wrote: A lot of people asked us to perform independent third party test. Fine we will do. Tests need to be prepared w

Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: With lower steam temp, say 450 deg C, Carnot cycle efficiency may be lower > than the claimed 30%. > It would be okay for a prototype. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:I urge Defkalion to allow a third-party test

Mary Yugo wrote: > > Thank you, thank you, thank you. Excellent. > It won't do a bit of good. I have already had that conversation with them, several times. - Jed

[Vo]:The market price for a 45 kW water heater is about $5000

Mary Yugo wrote: Now they quote a likely cost of only 5500 dollars or maybe Euros for a > ready to go 45 kW thermal output Hyperion? Some hutzpah. > Chutzpah. But that price is reasonable. For a device that produces only heat it is rather expensive. 45 kW is 150,000 BTU per hour. You can buy a

Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines

Horace Heffner wrote: A different working fluid is needed for automotive applications. Water freezes. Someone mentioned that in the forum. You could add antifreeze I suppose. Or you could leave the motor on 24/7, in standby mode to keep it from getting cold. If the hot water circulation wor

Re: [Vo]:The market price for a 45 kW water heater is about $5000

Mary Yugo wrote: > > it is rather expensive. 45 kW is 150,000 BTU per hour. You can buy a > simple > > heater that produces that much for $230 > > Not when you include the cost of fuel and electricity. > That's the whole point! The Hyperion has a huge market advantage because it does not requir

Re: [Vo]:Cyclone Power turbines

Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: On time is claimed to be 6 seconds. Yup. The original Fleischmann Pons experiment took two weeks to turn on. People thought that commercial reactors might take hours or days to turn on. I did not think so but I pointed out that even if they do that would not be such a di

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: No, this is a good one but I think that if you are addressing an > international audience to use dottore as doctor is misleading. WHO CARES?! - Jed

Re: [Vo]:I urge Defkalion to allow a third-party test

lic. Also, what happened to the test results from the Greek government? You said that you would publish them months ago. Why have you not done this? Defkalion GT wrote: @ Jed Rothwell 3. As for prof. Stremmenos, please refer to our company's announcement to be released . DGT Stremmenos is a fa

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: It is unprofessional. > When you put it together with all the other things is telling something > about Rossi 's conduct. > Everything about Rossi's conduct is a problem. Rossi's words and actions do not merely "tell you" something. They shout out something. They screa

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Mary Yugo wrote: > > I think it is better to judge the issue based on the laws of physics, > and by > > similar research by Piantelli and others whose behavior and background is > > impeccable. > > > > That's fine too as long as what you mean is to judge the other research on > its merits by all

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: WHY? > Why you guys are creating a make-believe story to justify Rossi's behavior? > I do not justify Rossi's behavior. I'm not even talking about Rossi's behavior. I'm talking about the laws of physics -- thermodynamics to be specific. > But the disappointment I fe

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Harry Veeder wrote: Only the science of instrumentation should be bound by the "laws of physics". Good point! Well said. Otherwise it would be impossible to test or disprove the laws of physics, and progress in physics would stop. This is an essential distinction. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Mary Yugo wrote: I suspect your view of Defkalion's authenticity is changing as we speak. I'm sure that must be unpleasant. Not a bit. I am stuck in a wait state. I have been for months. No change in status. I was not surprised when they uploaded mostly blather on November 30. A little di

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Peter Heckert wrote: > > I believe that when you bring 5 gallons of water to boil, insulate the pot >> and leave it for 4 hours it must cool down to room temperature. >> > This defys rules of physics. > And it defys rules of experience: > > Berlin Blockade: To Save Energy, Meals were Cooked in a

Re: [Vo]:Energy Catalyzer Wiki : FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH! FLAT EARTH!

I am surprised they did not erase the whole article. They probably will, soon. - Jed

[Vo]:LENR presentation by Dennis Bushnell

ecat builder wrote: Hi All, I posted the contents of a slide presentation by Dennis Bushnell that he gave at at the LENR conference at Glenn Research Center, NASA. Thank you! But please start a new thread when you change the topic. Let me change the title now, to bring this to people's attent

[Vo]:Recharging EV batteries with cold fusion

Horace Heffner wrote: For very small units a turbine could be avoided entirely, by using a free > sliding linear motion armature, driven in a manner similar to old steam > engine pistons. The armature would simply make or break one or two > external magnetic circuits to generate power. It would

Re: [Vo]:Recharging EV batteries with cold fusion

I wrote: > If it was a small battery that trickle charged the batteries, the electric > car might run out of power in the middle of nowhere. > Obviously that could also happen if you leave the trickle charge battery at home. My point is, if you had an onboard battery you might be less likely to

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Peter Heckert wrote: > Yes. Especially not, when the surface is 60-80° hot. This is so poor, that > I dont understand why did they isolate it at all. 1. Safety, to reduce the likelihood of people burning themselves. 2. To deliver more heat to the heat exchanger. > 80% means about 20% effi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Peter Heckert wrote: > Everybody knows that I believe there was definitive excess energy measured > in the Essen Kullander demo and in other demos, because the water flow was > too high to been heated to 100°. > Also everybody knows that I suspect Rossi doing tricks with input energy > and with

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Mary Yugo wrote: > > no skeptic would believe it no matter > > how good the results are, so why bother? > > > > You keep saying that but it isn't true. Skeptics have > different thresholds but most agree that if Rossi had repeated Levi's > experiment with proper calibrations and controls, it wo

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Mary Yugo wrote: > Let's be more specific. There could be a thermal mass heat storage > effect and there could be a chemical or change of stage/molten metal > type of heat storage or there could be Raney nickel type of reaction. > No, there couldn't be. The reactor would be hot to touch before

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Robert Leguillon wrote: Jed, I think that you misunderstand. The claims of heat storage during the > early October test are not referring to preheating, but merely containing > all of the heat supplied during the "warm up" phase. It does not require > heating before the test has begun, is there w

Re: [Vo]:Searching easily for all Defkalion's posts on their forum

Mary Yugo wrote: > I have sent them at least 6 emails about this and another 5 - 6 went via > Jed Rothwell who spoke to them by phone about it. By e-mail. They did fix some other problems. They are not on the ball. I suppose they are busy. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:national research program for cold fusion

Mary Yugo wrote: We need more robust, long running, high output, credible experiments. > SRI and the ENEA have done robust, long running, credible experiments for 20 years, albeit at low output. Skeptics, the DoE and most of academia have paid no attention to them. They could do another 20 years

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Mary Yugo wrote: > > > The total amount supplied during the warm up phase is easily measured. > It is > > the total amount of electricity supplied. > > Maybe it's easily measured but in fact it wasn't continuously recorded > in most if not all of Rossi's tests. It has been recorded and it is st

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Mattia Rizzi wrote: > Electrical power was not continuosly recorded in most of rossi's tests. > In the Oct. 6 test, which is the one in question, electrical power was off for 4 hours. You do not need to record it when it is off. While it was on, it was recorded often enough to be sure it did not

Re: [Vo]:Rossi clarification on Bianchini

Mary Yugo wrote: Ah. Depends on how much you trust that when Rossi says it's off, it's > really off. Remember the "stable! stable!" video. I trust the instruments, not Rossi. I do not think it is likely he has developed fake instruments. In any case, I know people who have done these tests

Re: [Vo]:Re: can we use such a program?

Mattia Rizzi wrote: > > But yeah, now comes Jed Rothwell saying that this is not lying and that > every businessman like Edison and Jobs done that. Yeah. > I have said repeatedly that I know nothing about Rossi's business affairs, and I have no idea whether he is lying or no

Re: [Vo]:Re: can we use such a program?

Mary Yugo wrote: > But another interesting question is what he may received from secret > investors. He gets offers every day on his blog and even on other people's > blogs! One can only imagine what he gets offered in private. > Yes, one can imagine, but as Fats Waller said, one never knows,

Re: [Vo]:Re: can we use such a program?

Mary Yugo wrote: > > I don't find this interesting. I think it pointless. You know nothing >> about Rossi's business, so this is mere empty speculation, gossip, and >> snooping into other people's private business. >> > > You're entitled to your opinion but I think Rossi has made himself a > publ

Re: [Vo]: ECAT Triggered by Cosmic Rays?

Andrea Selva wrote: Could this theory explain why e-cat works only at exactly 44.50N, 11.40E ( > Via dell'Elettricista, > 6

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

Horace Heffner wrote: I keep giving Rossi the benefit of the doubt. Things keep going down hill. > I have to ask myself, would I buy a used car from this man? > Have you just noticed that he is hard to deal with? Is this a revelation to you? I could have told you this any time in the last 18 m

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

Mary Yugo wrote: > Yet people on forums and blogs keep offering to contribute or invest money > despite the lack of independent verification that he has something > worthwhile. He must be doing something correctly. > Yes indeed. He showed irrefutable proof of a nuclear reaction on several occa

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

Robert Leguillon wrote: /snip/ > As long as a positive test is based purely on physics rather than his > personal credibility, or it is performed by others (as some tests have > been)... > /snip/ > > What tests have been performed by others? > Ampenergo, before they signed a contract. Mike McKub

Re: [Vo]: ECAT Triggered by Cosmic Rays?

Andrea Selva wrote: > > By the way I missed this McKubre test in US. Can you tell me more and > provide some pointers ? > See: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg58130.html - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Have you read nothing of how psychics operate? > Actually, I have read a lot about that, possibly more than Yugo has. I have also read about stage magicians. In both cases their methods could not begin to fool anyone looking inside a fake cold fusion device. Any engine

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

Peter Heckert wrote: Watch this magician: http://youtu.be/VsYDRRGmpXU At 6:00 he makes steam and he allows more access than Rossi ;-) His Japanese is pretty good. Do you seriously think that a chemist examining that cup would not find the source of heat? Get real. Once you look inside the m

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

Mary Yugo wrote: > Have you corresponded specifically with Randi about Rossi? > No, this was years ago. However, he has not changed is views. He says that Rossi and all other researchers are scammers, frauds, lunatics and criminals. That is also what Robert Park and many other prominent opponen

Re: [Vo]:Re: Krivit article on NASA Forum

Mary Yugo wrote: Do you seriously think that a chemist examining that cup would not find the >> source of heat? Get real. Once you look inside the magic trick stage prop, >> the trick is always instantly obvious. >> > > > That's the point though, isn't it? Nobody was ever allowed to see the > in

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Rich twits smash cars in Yamaguchi

This just in from the Institute of Schadenfreude Studies: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/eight-ferraris-crash-at-gathering-of-narcissists-in-japan/2011/12/05/gIQAmyS9XO_story.html Dec. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Eight Ferraris and a Lamborghini were part of a 14-car crash in Japan yesterday that w

Re: [Vo]:[Rossi] University R&D has gone away?

Why do you think the university project has been cancelled? I do not see that in Rossi's response. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:a long paper about and mainly against the E-cat

Here is a comment from Lewan Mats about this topic: Hi Mary and Ahsoka, Saw your discussion about power cords on Vortex. You can rule them out. I made my own connection cord which I put in series, both at the main power supply and between the blue control box and the resistor in the Ecat.

Re: [Vo]:[Rossi] University R&D has gone away?

Axil Axil wrote: The is some finite chance that the inner workings of the Rossi reactor are > now classified as SERET by the US military and not subject to review. > The U.S. military has no authority in Europe. - Jed

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