Em Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:49:52 +
SJS wma...@stremler.net escreveu:
Don't understand this promptness to move to GNU, too. Where's the
fire?
Ideology.
All non-GNU software must die, the sooner the better.
X11 and TeX are examples of components of the GNU system that aren't
GNU
On 11/23/2014 11:49 AM, kix wrote:
On 21/11/2014 14:52, Torrance, Douglas wrote:
Reading through the GNU Maintainer's guide, a lot of things seem
optional. For example:
We recommend using savannah.gnu.org for the source code repository for
your package, but that’s not required.
Although it
On 2014-11-21 08:15, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
Em Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:45:47 +
Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com escreveu:
Accepting this proposal deviates too much from what's been established
in the past years and imposes a time cost on the maintainer (me). I'd
have to
On 2014-11-22 19:57:04 -0600 sfal...@cloverleaf-linux.org wrote:
The more I read this, the more annoyed I get. Bruno, who the hell are you,
and more to the point, who the hell do you think you are?
Where was the almighty GNU and the FSF, and all their vaunted support back
when
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 at 21:04:20 -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
Em Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:31:33 +
Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com escreveu:
Are there any immediate changes necessary in order to accept this?
By now you need to nominate the maintainer, and possibly
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 08:45:47AM +, Carlos R. Mafra wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but while reading the guides I had the
impression of a preparation to be invaded by an alien virus.
We would need to change the name to GNU Window Maker, we would
all need to talk about GNU/linux, we could
On 11/21/2014 02:45 AM, Carlos R. Mafra wrote:
I am the current maintainer, in the current 6-year-old setup. I don't want to
change under the GNU umbrella and be bounded by its philosophy and way of doing
things. I don't have time to learn all the needed stuff and change my ways of
doing
Argh, somehow all my quotation formatting disappeared from this email.
Let's try this again:
On 11/21/2014 02:45 AM, Carlos R. Mafra wrote:
I am the current maintainer, in the current 6-year-old setup. I don't
want to change under the GNU umbrella and be bounded by its philosophy
and way of
2014-11-21 9:45 GMT+01:00 Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com:
I'd say that if you want to use Window Maker, then use it.
I'm agree with Carlos.
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« Invento ergo sum »
http://greedyandlounge.blogspot.com
2014-11-21 17:45 GMT+09:00 Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 at 21:04:20 -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
Em Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:31:33 +
Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com escreveu:
Are there any immediate changes necessary in order to accept this?
Em Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:45:47 +
Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com escreveu:
Ok, I see the integration within the GNU project. I thought that it
would be simpler, that we could keep our development infrastructure
and could keep on doing things the way we have been doing for the
last 6
I don't think anybody here is worried about being officially GNU or not.
Carlos work started as a fork and people started using (and improving)
it because it was an improved version of the original.
I your fork can provide improvements to wmaker people will be
interested, if not I don't think
Wow. That is some really nice take it or leave it strongarm tactics there.
And a big part if the reason I personally dislike GNU, and don't contribute to
their projects.On Nov 21, 2014 8:15 AM, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
oitofe...@gnu.org wrote:
Em Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:45:47 +
Carlos
Hi Bruno,
I don't think anybody here is worried about being officially part of the
GNU project or not.
Carlos work started as a fork and people started using (and improving)
it because it was an improved version of the original.
I your fork can provide improvements to wmaker people will be
A bug tracker has been on my TODO list for a while; to come right
after migrating the mailing list from EoC to Mailman.
Github has a bugtracker; I can't speak for it's quality though.
-john
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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:15:36PM -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
I'd say that if you want to use Window Maker, then use it.
We'd rather fork it.
We appreciate your 6 years of maintenance. However, almost all of
Window Maker's code is copyrighted by Alfredo K. Kojima the
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 08:25:48AM -0800, Shawn W Dunn wrote:
Wow. That is some really nice take it or leave it strongarm
tactics there.
And a big part if the reason I personally dislike GNU, and
don't contribute to their projects.
Not you alone...
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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
oitofe...@gnu.org wrote:
The GNU project is really sorry that you've declined to cooperate,
because our policy is to avoid a fork by all means. Now,
unfortunately, we have no choice.
My only request is that when you do fork, you use
On 11/21/2014 07:49 PM, Alexey I. Froloff wrote:
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 02:15:36PM -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
I'd say that if you want to use Window Maker, then use it.
We'd rather fork it.
...
The GNU project is really sorry that you've declined to cooperate,
because our
On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 at 14:15:36 -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
Em Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:45:47 +
Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com escreveu:
The GNU project thought it would be beneficial for both communities to
join efforts (GNU and Window Maker), as our primary wishes and
Greetings Window Maker developers!
As probably you all know, Window Maker used to be the official window
manager of the GNU operating system. However, several years ago, its
GNU maintainers become unresponsive to GNU project's requests, and its
development has, since then, been moved away from
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 at 13:59:13 -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
The GNU project is, therefore, interested in getting Window Maker back
into the GNU operating system and under its umbrella. Furthermore,
the Window Maker community will certainly benefit from the promotion
and
Em Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:14:45 +
Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com escreveu:
You can use Window Maker without even asking and I'm sure we will
all profit from the aditional visibility.
The GNU project has the strict policy of giving priority to GNU
packages. The GNU operating system should,
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 at 16:39:44 -0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
Em Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:14:45 +
Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com escreveu:
You can use Window Maker without even asking and I'm sure we will
all profit from the aditional visibility.
The GNU project has the
Em Thu, 20 Nov 2014 18:53:26 +
Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com escreveu:
3. The program's developers agree:
- To pay attention to the GNU Coding Standards and GNU
Maintainers Information guides.
Regarding condition 3, the current Window Maker source code follows
the linux
I've not read through the GNU Coding Standards to see where the differences
are between it and the Linux kernel coding standard. If the differences are
not great, and GNU is tolerant of the deviations, I'm for having Window
Maker again be listed as the Official window manager.
-john
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 at 12:27:29 -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
I've not read through the GNU Coding Standards to see where the differences
are between it and the Linux kernel coding standard. If the differences are
not great, and GNU is tolerant of the deviations, I'm for having Window
Quoting message written on Thursday 2014-11-20 21:31:33:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 at 12:27:29 -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
I've not read through the GNU Coding Standards to see where the
differences are between it and the Linux kernel coding standard. If
the differences are not great, and
On 11/20/2014 02:14 PM, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro wrote:
Other important guidelines are that the program should support a GNU
build system (Window Maker already does) and, ideally, have a manual
written in GNU Texinfo.
I actually started converting (and updating) the FAQ to Texinfo a few
Em Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:51:56 +
Torrance, Douglas dtorra...@monmouthcollege.edu escreveu:
I actually started converting (and updating) the FAQ to Texinfo a few
months ago. This might give me the impetus to finish. :)
That would be highly appreciated! :-)
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That sounds like a really good idea !
On Friday, November 21, 2014, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro oitofe...@gnu.org
wrote:
Em Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:51:56 +
Torrance, Douglas dtorra...@monmouthcollege.edu javascript:;
escreveu:
I actually started converting (and updating) the FAQ to Texinfo
Em Thu, 20 Nov 2014 23:23:52 +0100
Josip Deanovic djosip+n...@linuxpages.net escreveu:
What if it happens that the marriage between GNU and Windowmaker
simply doesn't work for some reason and participants (GNU and
Windowmaker) decide to split up and continue with their own paths?
What do you
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